The moment approaches: Atheist Woodstock just 12 hours away

posted at 10:12 pm on March 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

This thing might not win us any new friends. And it might not draw many people to the Mall. And it might not end up being covered much by the media. And the speakers just might prove so insufferably, smugly liberal that even atheists like me come away annoyed. But if it provides me with enough content for just one two late-night traffic-bait posts, my friends, then what we have here is what’s known as a success.

Seriously, though, I’m not sure the gay analogies are working out:

“The message is that if you can come out, you can out come out,” he says. “And if you can’t come out, at least you’ll know you’re not alone, and maybe sometime soon you’ll be able to come out of the closet to your family.”

Silverman says this is their moment, as important to atheists as the Stonewall riots were to the gay-rights movement four decades ago.

Dawkins makes the same point near the end of the clip below. Could be my NYC upbringing coloring my view but “coming out” as a nonbeliever has never seemed to me to be as wrenching as coming out as gay must be. Partly that’s because most atheists tend to come to it incrementally over time whereas for most gays it’s probably more of a rapid awakening when they’re young. Partly it’s because for families that aren’t especially religious, ultimately your parents don’t care much what your beliefs are whereas virtually all parents care about their kids marrying and having kids. And partly it’s because believers, in their moments of doubt, can relate to the skepticism of nonbelievers whereas a lot of straights (but not all) can’t relate on a visceral level to attraction to the same sex. But as I say, maybe this is NYC’s secular culture skewing my view. Could be that declaring yourself atheist in a devoutly religious community would be just as wrenching as declaring yourself gay.

Anyway. Your reward for enduring yet another lame “Reason Rally” post is this spicy data set from Gallup. Go ahead and gloat. You know you want to.


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Here’s their theme song.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Teh Ghey…

Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I do sense a great concentration of smug stupidity in the Force.

NotCoach on March 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Why would you want to be an atheist? Atheists DIE when they die. There is nothing after death for them…

wildcat72 on March 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

…wasn’t Woodstock a hippie mash-up mess?

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I think I will sit this one out and observe.
:)

Electrongod on March 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I thought I could feel it…but then I went and laid about 2 and a half feet of cable in the hopper and it passed….

BigWyo on March 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Could be that declaring yourself atheist in a devoutly religious community would be just as wrenching as declaring yourself gay.

And many times, “coming out” as a Christ-follower can result in a heavy backlash.

itsnotaboutme on March 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

If you want traffic out of this, you better be live blogging it dude. And we expect you to hit on at least on atheist chick.

Blake on March 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Here’s their theme song.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I can’t click. I just can’t.

Is it Lennon’s Imagine?

itsnotaboutme on March 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I’m so excited I could just die right now and go straight to the great nothingness in the sky!!

NickDeringer on March 23, 2012 at 10:19 PM

who’s preaching first?

rihar on March 23, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Here’s their theme song.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I can’t click. I just can’t.

Is it Lennon’s Imagine?

itsnotaboutme on March 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Trust me, it isn’t even close.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Things need to stand on their own.

* Realizations about who you are are not always some monumental thing.
* Evil doesn’t need to equate to being Hitler or Nazis.
* Not everything is a slippery slope or going from zero to eleven on the scale of things.

And frankly… they’d get a lot more people to attend (myself included) if they could promise sea otter representatives from the Allied Atheist Allegiance will be attendance as well.

Ukiah on March 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Seriously, though, I’m not sure the gay analogies are working out

lol … absolutely nothing I could snark would serve me better than that little line.

There’s sadness afoot. It almost hurts a little to watch. AP, somebody better invite some strippers or something, or this party is just going to look bad.

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

It opens officially with a complaint about Christians praying.

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Atheist Woodstock ?
So who is supplying them WOODstokers free contraceptions ?
The local mosques ?

burrata on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

will there be altar calls?

ted c on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

there have to be Christians present in order for this to have a purpose, right? Atheism is merely a proxy for anti-Christianity.

Say it ain’t so.

ted c on March 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM

The moment approaches: Atheist Woodstock just 12 hours away

So in 12 hours Jazz and Tina will be at the helm and Allah will be MIA.

redridinghood on March 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Norwegian on March 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

***************ABOMINATION OF ALL GAWDS LAWS *********************
(snark)

canopfor on March 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

somebody better invite some strippers or something, or this party is just going to look bad.

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Basil Rathbone knows what to do.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Which brings us to the age old question. Do atheists cuss and if they do what form does it take? Seems all the good ones would be off limits to them.

Just A Grunt on March 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Why not the King Crimson original? Not smug enough?

NotCoach on March 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Occupy two?

maynila on March 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Meanwhile……somewhere in JihadyLand,said JihadyGoon just threw his shoe at his TV as Al Jazeera just annouced this news peice!
(sarc)

canopfor on March 23, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Here’s their theme song.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Are you sure this isn’t the theme song.

RickB on March 23, 2012 at 10:27 PM

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Why not the King Crimson original? Not smug enough?

NotCoach on March 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I thought this version, without the lyrics, fit their non-textual mood, since they oppose any Word.

It might be what an atheist hears before the void swallows them with a yawn.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Basil Rathbone knows what to do.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

That was so funny. There was something about trying to blend Dawkins and the party into that scene that actually made my eyes water a little.

Gonna go grab some coffee and try to hold out a couple hours :) Friday’s wrapping up really well.

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM

It opens officially with a complaint about Christians praying.

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

“The Atheist’s Prayer

Our brains, which art in our heads, treasured be thy names. Thy reasoning come. The best you can do be done on earth as it is. Give us this day new insight to resolve conflicts and ease pain. And lead us not into supernatural explanations, deliver us from denial of logic. For thine is the kingdom of reason, and even though thy powers are limited, and you’re not always glorious, you are the best evolutionary adaptation we have for helping this earth now and forever and ever. So be it.”

Apparently they are too busy sniffing each other’s a$$es to make their own original prayer. They rewrite The Lord’s Prayer instead.

NotCoach on March 23, 2012 at 10:30 PM

…feeling it? ………. mmmmm ………

nope

….. that was just gas

seriously, AP?

Where one or more of you are gathered together in the name of …

… believing there is no higher purpose to the universe?

This seems like an exercise in gathering together to affirm each other’s lack of belief.

Either it’s unintentional irony or the biggest “meh” moment EVAH!

Wait, that would still be unintentional irony …

PolAgnostic on March 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Wonder if they will have someone speak about the horrors of nativity scenes at Christmas?

Big Orange on March 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I used my special atheist insights to determine that this “event” is idiotic.

EddieC on March 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

It opens officially with a complaint about Christians praying.

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

LOL

They probably just read from some old ACLU court filings.

cynccook on March 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Here’s their theme song.

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Are you sure this isn’t the theme song.

RickB on March 23, 2012 at 10:27 PM

That’s just demonic!

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

First topic of the night:

“Dealing with the urge to smack smug knuckledragging Fundies”

…that oughta take up a few hours.

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Undoubtedly, obama’s defecators are clenching their bowels tightly to hold in as much obamastool as possible – waiting for their big day of release. D.C. is going to stink even more than usual tomorrow!

‘Defecate for obama 2012!’

Pork-Chop on March 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Proselytizing on government property. Shame on you atheists. So who are you going to Beautify first, Dawkins, O’Hair?

gitarfan on March 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

What If The Atheists Held A Rally And Nobody Showed Up?

(Recycled 1960′s Cliches, Inc.)

profitsbeard on March 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

acomment.

ted c on March 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Where will these people be crapping?
Do they believe in port-a-potties?

KOOLAID2 on March 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

…wasn’t Woodstock a hippie mash-up mess?

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Who does an atheist see or talk too when they are tripping?

joeswampy on March 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Ever so much BS. Why, anyway?

chai on March 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Praise the Lord nothing, the moment has finally come to show the world we believe in the almighty power of atheism nothing!

Atheism HAS become what it doesn’t believe in…IT HAS BECOME A RELIGION!!

Liberty or Death on March 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Who does an atheist see or talk too when they are tripping?

joeswampy on March 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Zod

EddieC on March 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

It opens officially with a complaint about Christians praying.
whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

LOL
They probably just read from some old ACLU court filings.
cynccook on March 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Well, ya gotta a have some kind of holy book! (anti-holy book?)

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

wasn’t Woodstock a hippie mash-up mess?

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Either that, or a little yellow bird that can’t fly straight.

malclave on March 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

It’s gonna rain.

crosspatch on March 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM

The moment approaches: Atheist Woodstock just 12 hours away

.

Yawn, this is soooo yesterday. Reverends Al and Jessi are inviting everyone they know a good old fashion barbeque and it looks like Minister Mikhail Muhummud plans to bring a rope and matches: Wanted Dead or Alive Poster Issued for George Zimmerman by New Black Panther Party

Mike OMalley on March 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM

this is just tiresome political theater for yet one more segment of the Left (aka FreeThinkers a century or two ago).

There is obviously nothing new about atheism…indeed not really even very much provocative about it. Way more prevalent than homosexuality…and has been for centuries

Yawn…so what’s the angle? The left has an atheist agenda (not exactly news) and they’ll put their props in the MSM for everyone to see…Hurray for My Side.

So, please. (and btw, there’s nothing inherently leftist about atheism)

r keller on March 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Well, ya gotta a have some kind of holy book! (anti-holy book?)

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Origin of Species?

malclave on March 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Who does an atheist see or talk too when they are tripping?

joeswampy on March 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Could be anything. I’m serious. A serious ‘trip’ is not unlike a computer that’s had water poured over the motherboard; the tiny connections are all short-circuiting and anything can happen.

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Oops,

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Join FFRF’s Out of the Closet
Virtual Billboard Campaign
***************************

http://ffrf.org/out/

canopfor on March 23, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Could be my NYC upbringing coloring my view but “coming out” as a nonbeliever has never seemed to me to be as wrenching as coming out as gay must be.

For one thing, you don’t have to replace your underwear as often.

NoDonkey on March 23, 2012 at 10:48 PM

acomment.

ted c on March 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

So subtle, almost gossamer. Diaphanous subtlety. Deceptively simple. Deceptive in that the simplicity belies all the intelligence that went into it, none of which can be directly observed, or even inferred, by the comment itself.

This might be some of your best work.

I bid $1 million. :)

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Aw.. Dad, do I have to go to church Reason Rally Atheist Woodstock this weekend? Can’t I just stay home?

Fallon on March 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Well, ya gotta a have some kind of holy book! (anti-holy book?)

whatcat on March 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Origin of Species?

malclave on March 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

.

Das Kapital

Mike OMalley on March 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

http://ffrf.org/out/

canopfor on March 23, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Good grief.

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Silverman says this is their moment, as important to atheists as the Stonewall riots were to the gay-rights movement four decades ago.

Bah, humbug! Conservatives are the persecuted ones nowadays.

disa on March 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM

i’m sure this is just a coincidence…

dbilly76 on March 23, 2012 at 11:01 PM

I just hope they are cleaner, neater, and less destructive and violent than the occupiers. Let them demonstrate. It proves nothing, but if it makes them feel better, who cares?

lukjuj on March 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Well, if you come out as both atheist and gay at the same time, it would tend to take a lot of the shock away from you being an atheist (depending on your family, of course).

See, though, there’s another disadvantage to being atheist: at least believers have a chance to Pray Teh Ghey Away. The sort of auto-eroticism atheists have to try to get the same effect can be downright dangerous.

Adjoran on March 23, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Where’s the dude with the polls? I bet the Hot Air community would be very supportive of AP doing the big Dual Out-coming.

That Atheist Woodstock is just bound to be full of potential hook-ups for him.

Adjoran on March 23, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I just hope they are cleaner, neater, and less destructive and violent than the occupiers.

lukjuj on March 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Since they’re modelling themselves after Woodstock… I’d say the chances for that aren’t very good.

;)

malclave on March 23, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I scanned their list of more than 20 speakers and I recognize maybe 3 of them. And who’s this Maher guy?

But ya’ know, those dang Christians, I mean if they hadn’t wanted to get out of the Anglicans closet there might not be a closet in America for them dang atheists to come out of cuz there might not be an America where they could do so freely.

Anybody ever tell them atheists that maybe what you believe is what decides it all?

stukinIL4now on March 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Are they going to roll around in drug-laced puke like the first Woodstock?

viking01 on March 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Greta Christina is one of the most widely-read and well-respected bloggers in the atheist blogosphere. She blogs at the cleverly named Greta Christina’s Blog, and is a regular contributor on atheism to the online political magazine, AlterNet. She was ranked by an independent analyst as one of the Top Ten most popular atheist bloggers, and her writing has appeared in numerous magazines, newspapers, and anthologies. She tweets at @GretaChristina. And she is author of the new book, “Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless,” just published on Kindle and Nook.

LOL! These atheists sure do inflate their importance in a universe with no meaning.

Seriously, the speaker list is comedy gold.

tom daschle concerned on March 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

i’m sure this is just a coincidence…

dbilly76 on March 23, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Yeah, and did you hear about that Mayan calender thing?

Give the amateur prophecies a rest.

MelonCollie on March 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Could be that declaring yourself atheist in a devoutly religious community would be just as wrenching as declaring yourself gay.

It is.

mythicknight on March 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Well, it doesn’t bill itself as “atheist”, it bills itself as secular. There’s a huge difference. It doesn’t mean the people attending don’t have a religion, it just means that religion isn’t going to play any role in the event, the event will be secular.

I think things like governments should be secular, too.

But still, it’s going to rain, so I don’t see the turnout being all that big.

crosspatch on March 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Atheist Woodstock??!?!?!

BBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a bunch of d*ckheads.

A lack of faith in God is still a faith boys. The null set is still a set.
Hope you’re right . . . .

Bubba Redneck on March 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM

That pompous British idiot in the CNN vid would be just fine with the US being a Muslim state though.

“Atheism” in our society today has become nothing more than a hatred of Jews and Christians by Leftist scum.

And, full disclosure: I say this as someone who isn’t religious and who most people would call an athiest.

Oh, and by the way, pompous British guy: The separation of church and state that you’re orgasming over is a Christian concept:

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” Matthew 22:21).

WhatSlushfund on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM

It might be interesting to see if they come up with any arguments that can’t be classified as merely objections to the other side’s arguments.

Cleombrotus on March 23, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Wow, everyone is a victim group these days aren’t they?

Other than that, eh who cares what large groups of people want to do as long as they do it legally. Thousands of people show up to watch cars turn in left circles all day during race season and I don’t get- or begrudge- that either.

Though I can’t imagine subjecting myself to the people I do recognize in that line up. Brr.

Betenoire on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Oh, and by the way, pompous British guy: The separation of church and state that you’re orgasming over is a Christian concept:

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” Matthew 22:21).

WhatSlushfund on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM

It most certainly is not a Christian concept. It’s a pre-Socratic philosophy which was lost when the West was going through it’s Christianist phase and preserved in the great Islamic libraries until being re-discovered like the rest of the Classics…. then Renaissance then Enlightenment.

Don’t be so angry.

lexhamfox on March 24, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Where’s Samson when you need him?

UODuckMan on March 24, 2012 at 12:23 AM

great Islamic libraries

lexhamfox on March 24, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I LOL’d.

joe_doufu on March 24, 2012 at 12:31 AM

We all know what a positive effect the Woodstock Generation had on our nation.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 24, 2012 at 12:48 AM

great Islamic libraries

lexhamfox on March 24, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I LOL’d.

joe_doufu on March 24, 2012 at 12:31 AM

There were some that preserved ancient Greek and Roman texts until the Islamic closing of the doors of Reform (Ijtihad) around 1000 A.D. when that faith ossified and become a permanent headlock and began to consider all non-Koranic thought worthless.

It was sealed with the book “The Incoherence of the Philosophers“.

Which certified the ascendance of the still-prevailing Muslim view of an Utterly Non-rational Deity- Allah.

Reason was scorned, Logic rendered absurd, History made meaningless.

Islam became a timeless madness.

profitsbeard on March 24, 2012 at 12:59 AM

What is the purpose of atheist Woodstock?

“Yay, life is meaningless! Woohoo!”

fossten on March 24, 2012 at 1:04 AM

What is the purpose of atheist Woodstock?

“Yay, life is meaningless! Woohoo!”

fossten on March 24, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Same as the original Woodstock – to get high and find easy chicks.

Adjoran on March 24, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Is this atheist evangelism?

Spreading the Word that there is no Word?

Totally postmodern. Zen-like.

/

CorporatePiggy on March 24, 2012 at 1:42 AM

This might be some of your best work.

I bid $1 million. :)

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

that is the nicest comment I have ever received, thank you!

ted c on March 24, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Why would you want to be an atheist? Atheists DIE when they die. There is nothing after death for them…

wildcat72 on March 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Even W.C. Fields, an adamant atheist, was flipping through the pages of a Bible at his deathbed because he was checking for a loophole.

Myron Falwell on March 24, 2012 at 2:13 AM

What is the purpose of atheist Woodstock?

“Yay, life is meaningless! Woohoo!”

fossten on March 24, 2012 at 1:04 AM

That was random last night.

tom daschle concerned on March 24, 2012 at 2:32 AM

Even W.C. Fields, an adamant atheist, was flipping through the pages of a Bible at his deathbed because he was checking for a loophole.

Myron Falwell on March 24, 2012 at 2:13 AM

You Christians will say or do anything to claim a deathbed conversion of someone who was a pronounced atheist! Especially years after the people have been dead… Charles Darwin supposedly had a deathbed conversion.

Within days of his death, reports of a conversion experience began to circulate. The first report supposedly came in a sermon preached in South Wales by a gentleman identified as “Mr. Huntingdon.” Some weeks later there surfaced a report about a letter sent to John Eadie, a divinity professor in Glasgow, in which Darwin indicated, “He can with confidence look to Calvary.” Curiously, when examined, Darwin’s existing correspondence (which totals over 14,000 letters) contains no communication between these two men.

Then there is Lady Hope who supposedly witnessed him reading a bible on his deathbed and telling her to tell others of Christ. She of course made it all up because the first anyone heard of it was 33 years after the fact, and when she was overseas in a foreign country.

There have even been people spreading tales already about Christopher Hitchens supposedly converting.

How true can your religion really be if you have to lie in the name of your religion just to try to make it sound more awe-inspiring, powerful, and life changing, or something?

Sound kind of familiar Myron?

SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:25 AM

What is the purpose of atheist Woodstock?

“Yay, life is meaningless! Woohoo!”

fossten on March 24, 2012 at 1:04 AM

That’s YOUR interpretation of atheism.

Life is anything but meaningless to an atheist, just as it is with you. Just like you they have family, friends, jobs, hobbies they like to do, things they like to study, places to travel to with people to meet and become friends with, etc…

If you consider your own life meaningless with these things then you live in a very sad world.

Why you think that without a god in your life to prostrate yourself before, or a religion to follow, that life is somehow meaningless? Are you meaningless to those left behind after your passing? Were those you loved who’ve died already meaningless to you?

I feel really sorry for you and those still stuck in religion who continue to think in this manner.

JUST because you don’t have a religion in your life, it doesn’t necessarily follow that one’s life is meaningless.

SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:38 AM

In FACT fossten, I would contend, as it was with me, that an atheist realizing and accepting that this life is all we have inCREASES their appreciation for life, and brings new meaning to it, because then and only then do you know how precious it is.

It was this way with me when I finally broke free of religion.

SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:46 AM

How true can your religion really be if you have to lie in the name of your religion just to try to make it sound more awe-inspiring, powerful, and life changing, or something?

SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:25 AM

Hold on, there, cowboy. You’re indicting all Christians for the actions of a few religious folk. A few crackpots can infiltrate even the best of groups.

Speaking of awe-inspiring, powerful, and life changing stories, are you doubting the conversion accounts of people who once attacked the faith but came to embrace it, such as the apostle Paul, or devout atheists Josh McDowell & Chicago Tribune investigative reporter Lee Strobel?

Paul claimed to have seen post-resurrection Jesus Christ, & he preached that until Rome beheaded him. Why would he lie, & keep lying, about that?

McDowell harassed Christians in his university, & researched the faith to try to destroy it…until his study destroyed his unbelief.

Strobel used his journalistic skills to find flaws in the Bible so that he could persuade his wife to give up her new-found faith. But he gave up his faith in atheism.

itsnotaboutme on March 24, 2012 at 4:19 AM

Proselytizing on government property. Shame on you atheists. So who are you going to Beautify first, Dawkins, O’Hair?

gitarfan on March 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

I vote Dawkins.
His dodging of one of the atheists’ dilemmas–the origin of life–is just rich, saying little green men may have “seeded” the Earth.

Maybe in his acceptance speech he’ll inform us who seeded life on the little green men’s planet.

itsnotaboutme on March 24, 2012 at 4:26 AM

Non issue and couldn’t care less. I don’t give a crap what you believe as long as it’s not Islam.

Then we have a problem.

Sherman1864 on March 24, 2012 at 6:00 AM

Looking at the speakers for this event it appears that it’s going to be nothing more than a bash religion festival. Bill Maher?

It seems all these atheist groups revolve around a central theme … bashing religion. These people are anti-religion, not atheist. They spend their days mocking and ridiculing anyone of faith, filing lawsuits, and preaching anti-religion. If it wasn’t for religion these people wouldn’t have a purpose in life.

The entire thing is just odd and I wish they’d just admit who and what they are instead of playing their silly games.

darwin on March 24, 2012 at 6:45 AM

G-d loves “atheists” as well. His Son died for “atheists” as well as for the rest of us.

But, really, there are no true atheists. There are only those who deny what all of us deep down know – there is a great Spirit, Creator and Judge in whom we live and breathe and have our being.

But, it makes them feel better to flock together now and then. Just wondering when they’re going to establish their first charitable organization in the name of atheism.

oakland on March 24, 2012 at 7:07 AM

JUST because you don’t have a religion in your life, it doesn’t necessarily follow that one’s life is meaningless.

SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:38 AM

Religion is universal, across all borders and times. All folks have some type of religion. Yours may be something you call “atheism” (though I personally don’t believe in atheists).

Now, if you reject, say, Christianity, please provide some higher way for us all than “Love thy neighbor as thyself”, and “no greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for his friends” or “blessed are the peacemakers”, or “be not worried about tomorrow, there is enough ‘evil’ to contend with today”.

oakland on March 24, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Atheists comparing their “struggle” to the gay rights movement now? Interesting little tidbit…

But like teh gheys, atheists can’t be lumped together under a specific stereotype. Both groups are very diverse. And like the loud and vocal gays are usually what we see and hear, the loud and vocal atheists are what we see and hear as well.

But hey, if these atheists want hold a rally for whatever, they have that right. And as Christians (those who are) the best we can do is pray for them. We can’t go and force feed the non-believers into believers, it comes from the heart.

JetBoy on March 24, 2012 at 7:53 AM

JUST because you don’t have a religion in your life, it doesn’t necessarily follow that one’s life is meaningless.
SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:38 AM

Sauer, I hate to break this to you but…

if there’s no God, no Intelligent Designer, then life is OBJECTIVELY meaningless. The only meaning life then takes on is the meaning that one arbitrarily infuses into it. But even that is evidence FOR objective meaning because it is impossible for a mortal man, unlike the animal, to live a life that is not notable for the drive to FIND meaning.

Cleombrotus on March 24, 2012 at 7:54 AM

arbitrarliy and subjectively, that is

Cleombrotus on March 24, 2012 at 7:56 AM

JUST because you don’t have a religion in your life, it doesn’t necessarily follow that one’s life is meaningless.
SauerKraut537 on March 24, 2012 at 3:38 AM

Sauer, I hate to break this to you but…

if there’s no God, no Intelligent Designer, then life is OBJECTIVELY meaningless. The only meaning life then takes on is the meaning that one arbitrarily infuses into it. But even that is evidence FOR objective meaning because it is impossible for a mortal man, unlike the animal, to live a life that is not notable for the drive to FIND meaning.

Cleombrotus on March 24, 2012 at 7:54 AM

I think you guys are missing the semantics there…I’m pretty sure Cleombrotus doesn’t mean an atheist’s life is “meaningless”, but that the idea of no Creator means we all would have no “purpose” for being here. Neither us or the whole universe. Not much happens in nature that doesn’t have some reason behind it.

JetBoy on March 24, 2012 at 7:59 AM

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