Santorum spokewoman says he’ll support Romney if nominee … Update: Santorum statement added

posted at 10:25 am on March 23, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

As walkbacks go, this isn’t exactly … enthusiastic. Will it be enough to get Rick Santorum off the hook?

On CNN’s Starting Point, [Alice] Stewart defended the candidate’s comments Thursday in which he said: “We might as well stay with what we have” in Obama, rather than elect Romney.

“What we have with Mitt Romney is… a mirror image of Barack Obama,” Stewart said. “Both believe in government takeover of health care, cap and trade, big government spending, Wall Street bailout.” …

But later in the show, when pressed on how Santorum could support Romney if he’s saying he’s the same as Obama, Stewart responded:  “Rick has made it abundantly clear once a nominee is chosen he’ll stand behind the nominee and do everything we can to replace Barack Obama.”

Call this one a half-walkback.  Some of Santorum’s defenders claim that he meant that voters would react that way if given a choice between Obama and Romney.  Matt Lewis makes that argument pretty well, but uses the same paragraph I did in the excerpt:

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

Well, if Santorum meant that’s what others would think, he certainly didn’t make that explicit in the statement.  It’s an arguable point, but interestingly, not one that Alice Stewart bothered to make on CNN, apparently. They’re still arguing that there isn’t any difference between Romney and Obama, but that Santorum will stick with a Republican rather than a Democrat.  Contrast that with Newt Gingrich’s consistent argument that everyone in the GOP race would be a quantum improvement on Obama, but that he’s more quantum than the rest — a perfectly legitimate argument, even if one doesn’t agree with Gingrich’s self-assessment.

This statement is an improvement over yesterday, but it’s not exactly an apology, either.  (via Keder on Twitter)

Update: Senator Santorum has given Hot Air this statement in response:

“I would never vote for Barack Obama over any Republican and to suggest otherwise is preposterous. This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort and distract the media and voters from the unshakeable fact that many of Romney’s policies mirror Barack Obama’s.  I was simply making the point that there is a huge enthusiasm gap around Mitt Romney and it’s easy to see why – Romney has sided with Obama on healthcare mandates, cap-and-trade, and the Wall Street bailouts.  Voters have to be excited enough to actually go vote, and my campaign’s movement to restore freedom is exciting this nation.  If this election is about Obama versus the Obama-Lite candidate, we have a tough time rallying this nation.  It’s time for bold vision, bold reforms and bold contrasts.  This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and I will fight to restore your freedoms.”


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Romney will repeal Obamacare if Congress sends him a bill to sign. Simple as that.

gerrym51 on March 23, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Just like Bush Sr. said read my lips, no new taxes, and then he raised taxes.

Expecting Romney to be the man on full repeal of Obamacare isn’t logical.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM

When pundits get more angry about Santorum’s comments about Romney than they do government abuse of power as in RomneyCare, that’s a sign they aren’t all that conservative.

Just my 2 cents.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM

He’ll fight to restore my freedoms? Somehow I doubt that…Ricky no likey the libertarians

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM

This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and I will fight to restore your freedoms.

Oh, so the guy who wants to arrest you for watching porn in your hotel room is now the great defender of liberty?

Yeah, okay. Sure.

Hayabusa on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

So, today, the etch a sketch is santorum?

So true. Mitt should buy some etch-a-sketches and use them against Santorum.

gerrym51 on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort

I stuck both feet in my mouth, but it’s Mitt’s fault!! WAAA!!!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Doesn’t Congress have to REPEAL Obie Care first?

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Why,..yes….yes they do. But, worrying about Congressional majorities is so much less fun than fighting about one man.

a capella on March 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

With Santorum we know we’d have a fighter and not a caver so we are trying to avoid Romeny before it’s too late.

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Santorum didn’t have a problem with Romney’s record in Massachusetts four years ago. So what’s changed? Oh yeah, now they are competing for the same nomination. So Santorum is all about convenience. And he prefers President ObaMao over President Romney. That’s a “fighter?”

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Romney is the great defender of freedom, according to the Romney Zombies, nevermind his liberal statism on healthcare, gun control, and other issues. Romney always gets that free pass.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM

I agree. But that’s the media. However, I see 2 hold outs Greta and Sean. They seemed to be genuine ABR going back to Herb Bachmann.

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Everybody is Not-Obama. That doesn’t mean every Not-Obama is much better than Obama.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM

He’ll fight to restore my freedoms? Somehow I doubt that…Ricky no likey the libertarians

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Pal, you have that wrong, it’s the Libertines he doesn’t like, a part of the libertarian party…get it right.

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Rick blames the Romney campaign, hilarious. Mitt is not the reason Rick is stoopid.

Rusty Allen on March 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Voters have to be excited enough to actually go vote–Rick

Which is why Mitt’s gotten a lot more votes than Rick.

itsnotaboutme on March 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM

I think what Ed and others are doing amounts to little more than suggesting there is some kind of Loyalty Oath to the Republican Party no matter who the candidate is.

I don’t think most free thinking Americans see it that way. I don’t.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM

gryphon202 on March 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM
mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 11:47 AM

He’s won. Get serious.

But I’m not planning on running for president, am I.

KingGold on March 23, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Good thing since you believe what Obama feeds you. Romney won. If you can’t be gracious in victory then I have no more time for you.

gh on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM

I would never vote for Barack Obama over any Republican and to suggest otherwise is preposterous.

Rick, being preposterous:

We might as well stay with what we have

itsnotaboutme on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM

There are two choices. If you want a third one then work on it.

gh on March 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort and distract the media and voters

Wow. Really!?!??

SouthernGent on March 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

When pundits get more angry about Santorum’s comments about Romney than they do government abuse of power as in RomneyCare, that’s a sign they aren’t all that conservative.

Just my 2 cents.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM

That issue was there in 2008, too. And here’s what Santorum had to say about Romney:

“In a few short days, Republicans from across this country will decide more than their party’s nominee. They will decide the very future of our party and the conservative coalition that Ronald Reagan built.

Conservatives can no longer afford to stand on the sidelines in this election, and Governor Romney is the candidate who will stand up for the conservative principles that we hold dear,” said Senator Santorum.

“Governor Romney has a deep understanding of the important issues confronting our country today, and he is the clear conservative candidate that can go into the general election with a united Republican party.”…

-Santorum in 2008

Santorum: For Romney before he was [running] against Romney.

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I can’t blame any conservative for not voting for Romney in the general. Vote your principles. Don’t be intimidated by those who tell you otherwise. It’s your vote, your freedom, and that does include not voting for Romney vs Obama.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM

blah, blah, excuses, blah, blah

go Big Labor!

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Romney is the great defender of freedom STATES RIGHTS, according to the Romney Zombies, nevermind his liberal statism on healthcare, gun control, and other issues.
Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Santorum is the “Freedom” candidate —-
This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and I will fight to restore your freedoms.”

Freedom’s just another word, for nothin left to lose. (Richard)

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

This is all organized damage control by the “Bush League.” Romney has totally lost the base and the etch-a-sketch moment was fatal.

Santorum did not say to vote for Obama. He said the people need a choice in bold colors.

Romney is toast. Conservatives will not vote for him.

There has been a tyrannical push back by the Bush League to get in line and back leftist Romney. It isn’t motivating anyone.

Romney is running a totally leftist campaign and digging a deeper and deeper hole every day.

This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party to take the party back from the Bush League thugs.

Romney will never get my vote, ever!

Obama is not the enemy, the Bush League is because they refuse to fight the Obamas of the world.

The Bush League tried to force Mittbama down our throats but it will never happen.

Romney takes socialized medicine off the table.

Romney is for Cap and Trade. He will reward his corrupt Wall Street cronies with carbon trading to make up for the shortfall in revenues since the mortgaged back securities debacle.

Romney gives us supreme court justices like David Souter who will vote with the Democrats for the next 50 years.

Romney has no core values. Romney’s word means NOTHING!

Romney stinks. You can’t put lipstick on this pig!

The Republican party has a disdain for conservatives but expects us to get in line every election. It is obvious that there will NEVER be another conservative candidate again as far as the Bush League is concerned.

Where was the Bush League admonishing Nicole Wallace for admitting that she did not vote for McCain, nowhere.

It’s time to pay back the Bush League in kind and emulate Nicole Wallace’s actions. We won’t vote for Mittbama.

http://spectator.org/archives/2008/10/27/post-defeat-planners

ROMNEY ANTI-PALIN
Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin’s bid for the White House, have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election. “Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won’t be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,” says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin. “The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney. He’s in charge on November 5th.”

Romney has kept a low profile nationally since being denied the vice presidential nomination. He is currently traveling for the National Republican Congressional Committee in support of some House members, and has attended events for a handful of other House members who have sought his support, but he has traveled little for the McCain-Palin ticket. “He said the only time he’d travel for us is if we assured him that national cameras would be there,” says a McCain campaign communications aide. “He’s traveled to Nevada and a couple other states for us. That’s about it.”

Should McCain-Palin not win next week, Romney is expected to mount another presidential run, though it isn’t clear that he has handled himself particularly well since losing the nomination. He failed to support or espouse conservative positions on the economic bailout bill in an effective or meaningful way, and he has turned down opportunities to endorse and work for conservative candidates in House or Senate seats unless they were assured of winning.

The most glaring oversight was Romney’s refusal to do a phone recording for Massachusetts Republican Jeff Beatty, who is challenging Sen. John Kerry. “Mitt supposedly cares about Massachusetts, but won’t even return phone calls asking for help,” says a conservative working for Beatty in Boston. “It’s a tough race, but the least he could do is help. He’s showing his true colors.”

Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a “diva” and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee.

YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW, MITTBAMA!

Jayrae on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Santorum didn’t have a problem with Romney’s record in Massachusetts four years ago. So what’s changed? Oh yeah, now they are competing for the same nomination. So Santorum is all about convenience. And he prefers President ObaMao over President Romney. That’s a “fighter?”

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

And Romney had no problem with Rick in the same statement you are referring to…so Mitt was better than McCain, that is what you are saying? That’s your standard, better than McCain means what?
The problem is Mitt is whomever you want him to be…you can find a quote or support on just about any issue…for abortion or against it? Cap and Trade (well that one he is for), TARP (that one also), bailout of Wall Street cronies (oops that one also), Global Warming (darn that one also), look I know somewhere he is for something conservative….umm let me see, oh yeah, he wants more oil, but not harm the environment, that’s a unique stand.

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Good thing since you believe what Obama feeds you.

gh on March 23, 2012 at 11:55 AM

And how’s that?

Because I oppose everything he stands for and don’t wish to throw away the slim chance we have to boot him from office by nominating a fool who’s interested in the party base and no one else?

KingGold on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Santorum didn’t have a problem with Romney’s record in Massachusetts four years ago. So what’s changed? Oh yeah, now they are competing for the same nomination. So Santorum is all about convenience. And he prefers President ObaMao over President Romney. That’s a “fighter?”

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I do believe we were stuck with who was the more conservative of the 2 in 2008 – Romney/McCain – and boy were we wrong on both counts but that’s what we were stuck with then. This is now -the choice is which of the 3 is the most conservative – and with all this dumping on Rick, his point of which is the most closely similar to Obama. I’ll argue between Rick and Newt for the conservative label, but the last is a no-brainer.

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I’ve also not heard him come out specifically against sodomy. IIRC, that is one of your main interests, no?

a capella on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Santorum: For Romney before he was [running] against Romney.

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Romney was up against McCain in 2008. There wasn’t a conservative choice in 2008 outside of Fred Thompson and he was out after SC.

Santorum was endorsing Romney b/c he thought Romney was the probable nominee, and was hoping to get a job in the Romney admin if Romney won the presidency. All politicians do this.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

“We might as well stay with what we have”

Obama’s new campaign slogan.

Thanks Rick. Dumbass.

later on March 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Santorum did not say to vote for Obama. He said the people need a choice in bold colors.

Jayrae on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Just in case most got bored (like me) with your rambling…this is the crux of the statement…

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Rick, stop talking for a bit and take a breath.

Philly on March 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM

I don’t think states have the right to screw over people at will. Even if it’s Constitutional. I think that’s a case against perfect allegiance to the Constitution. I’m for freedom, not perfect allegiance to a document written over 200 years ago by dead men.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM

KingGold on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

The obvious context was Palin.

gh on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort and distract the media and voters

So Newt’s a Mittbot? Who knew!

crazy_legs on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Jayrae on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I would tell you to go get your own blog, but with the kind of dreck you write, it seems you desperately need to leech from HotAir’s traffic.

KingGold on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Slavery use to be Constitutional too.

Didn’t make it right or about freedom.

If you are going to wrap yourself in the Constitution and states rights, I’m going to slap you around with that.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Romney blows if you look at his liberal record in Mass. People don’t have to pretend it’s not what it is simply b/c he calls himself a Republican. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem. Deal with it.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Santorum listens to DanMan.

DanMan on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Santorum was endorsing Romney b/c he thought Romney was the probable nominee, and was hoping to get a job in the Romney admin if Romney won the presidency. All politicians do this.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

So now you admit that Santorum is just another politician looking for an opportunity. Got it. I thought he was a “fighter.” Besides, Santorum and his supporters claim he’s a man of deep conviction. He’s now gone so far around the bend as to endorse ObaMao over Romney. So if his convictions are that deep, then how could he ever support Romney?

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

So Newt’s a Mittbot? Who knew!

crazy_legs on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Mitt, Rick and Newt are all for themselves. You don’t win in politics at this level unless that is true. Mitt had a bit of a head start. Anyone else who is serious in the GOP is thinking about 2020 and will start to organize as soon as 2012 is over. Unless Mitt is a disaster of Obama proportions, he should be good for two terms.

gh on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

 
 
Santorum’s petulance is not presidential.
He is too big a risk for the country.
 

ignatzk on March 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

you know what ? thats it- you have the reason why Richard slipped and said its OK to stay with obama rather than Romney-
He must be really torqued off that his endorsement of Romney in 2008 is coming back to haunt him and abuse him !! – and it was a freudian slip in the attempt to distance himself from that emdorsement.

Thats it. He is stewing over that endorsement- big time. as he should.

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I’m not going to weep if Santorum says Romney kind of sucks.

Romney kind of sucks.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Romney blows if you look at his liberal record in Mass. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem. Deal with it.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Santorum had no problem with it…back when he wasn’t running against Romney. Deal with that reality.

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Santorum is certifiably nuts. He can’t even tell a Constitution hating fascist from someone who is not. Like Obama, he is totally unfit to serve. There is just no excuse for anyone any longer not to see that.

VorDaj on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM

If you want to break out the high powered microscope and look for differences b/t Romney’s tenure in political power vs Obama, that’s cool.

Just don’t expect the rest of us to engage in your childish wish casting.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Just like Bush Sr. said read my lips, no new taxes, and then he raised taxes.

Expecting Romney to be the man on full repeal of Obamacare isn’t logical.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM

.
I’m giving Bush Sr. a 1/4 credit on that deal. The Dem majority (both halves of Capitol Hill) wanted a much bigger tax increase, and what Bush Sr. did was to “cave in” to a half-way point.

But I don’t believe he had to cave on that, either.

listens2glenn on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM

and my campaign’s movement to restore freedom is exciting this nation.

whatevervest

gatorboy on March 23, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Ed please drop this guy – he’s proven that he’s out to (and capapble of doing) more damage to our chances this year than any dem.

Swerve22 on March 23, 2012 at 12:06 PM

mittens more than kinda sucks – that’s not what Rick said.

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 12:06 PM

To suggest Romney didn’t implement statist policies on healthcare in Mass isn’t living in reality. He’s no different than Obama on healthcare. He says he is somehow different now but we won’t know until we elect him. I don’t call that a real choice.

Others disagree.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:06 PM

This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and Etch-a-Sketch… but mostly just Etch-A-Sketch, and I will fight to restore your freedoms.

FIFY

gatorboy on March 23, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Rick said he would vote for Romney if he’s the nominee.

You Romney Zombies can take a break from your 24-7 obnoxious brownnosing for the flip flopper Romney Care guy. He’s going to be the nominee. Who cares what Santorum says about him at this point.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:08 PM

God is not on Santorum’s side or He would have given Santorum lockjaw.

VorDaj on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

blah, blah, excuses, blah, blah

go Big Labor!

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

In other words, I am right and you don’t know how to respond…

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

time for Mitt to walk away and let Santorum finish his implosion and meltdown

gatorboy on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Just don’t expect the rest of us to engage in your childish wish casting.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM

We feel the same way about yours.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I do believe we were stuck with who was the more conservative of the 2 in 2008 –

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

But the argument from the ABR fanatics is not about who is “more conservative” but rather that Romney is “the white ObaMao” and other ridiculous claims that Romney is a “socialist” or whatever. So since all the things that Romney is getting hit with have to do with things that had already happened in 2008, why did Santorum endorse Romney? Since he has such deep convictions about conservatism and all…

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

When Romney loses to Obama, don’t blame it on Santorum. :)

We told you so.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Romney is the Titanic of Republican candidates.

We are told he’s unsinkable but he is going to be at the bottom of the ocean in November. Bank on it baby.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

In other words, I am right and you don’t know how to respond…

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

teehee…in other words you spout Santz talking points and support big labor

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

We are preparing for an epic battle in the November Presidential election, a battle for the soul of America. The soul of America is liberty-civil, religious and economic liberty. Just because this battle is being fought with words and votes instead of weapons does not make it any less real or any less critical.

While it would be nice if some mythical conservative would magically appear, leading the Republican Party to victory, it hasn’t happened, and it won’t happen by November. This isn’t a movie. The Calvary isn’t coming. We all wish we had a better candidate, but we don’t. You go to war with the army you have.

If anyone doubts the importance of every single, maximally effective vote against Obama, ask yourself-3 years ago-could you imagine the government forcing Catholic organizations to pay for abortifacients? Could you imagine the government running for 3 years without a budget? Could you imagine exceeding 8 years of record deficit spending in 3 years?

What can happen in 4 more years of Obama, unchecked with the need to sit for re-election? With a media almost totally under his control?

I note the follow posts from Michelle’s website.

1. On March 23rd, 2012 at 9:51 am, Misscheryl said:
LiveFreeOrDie_2011 said:
Four more years of Obama and you have to wonder if you’d be getting a knock on your door after posting on this blog.
4 more years of Obama and we won’t have this blog.
To paraphrase Franklin: Those who sacrifice liberty to make a point don’t deserve liberty. We need every anti-Obama vote. And each one must be maximally effective. To be maximally effective, it must be for the Republican nominee. No help is coming. It’s up to each and every one of us to do our best to defeat Obama. We can argue about the purity of the Republican party after we save the country. If we don’t defeat Obama this election-it won’t matter.

talkingpoints on March 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Since he has such deep convictions about conservatism and all…

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Specter… No Child Left Behind… Support for Big Labor… Yeah, he’s “Severely Conservative“…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Santorum had no problem with it…back when he wasn’t running against Romney. Deal with that reality.

cicerone on March 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM

And Mitt thought Rick was the greatest when he wasn’t running against Mitt…deal with the reality.
You Romney supporters come up with the lamest excuses…

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The guy who is worried about big government (Santorum) is the same guy who wants the government to pick winners and losers via the tax code, thinks it’s a good idea for the government to set wages, thinks government mandating union participation is okay, and wants to expand the role in government into social issue is needed. I must live in some sort of alternate universe, but I wouldn’t consider that person remotely conservative.

Tater Salad on March 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM

From the beginning…

… I have said, “Go after Obowma!!!”.

But noooooooooo…

… We can’t have THAT now, can we?

Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM

If you are going to wrap yourself in the Constitution and states rights, I’m going to slap you around with that.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

You think the real war for the leftists is ObieCare? Thats just a side show. Centralizing power in DC is the key for them. The states are everything.

Borders are the commies enemy- state or national ones.

I thought you were more of a big picture Dr. ??

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM

The guy who is worried about big government (Santorum) is the same guy who wants the government to pick winners and losers via the tax code, thinks it’s a good idea for the government to set wages, thinks government mandating union participation is okay, and wants to expand the role in government into social issue is needed. I must live in some sort of alternate universe, but I wouldn’t consider that person remotely conservative.

Tater Salad on March 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The problem with your arguement is you DO suppport Romney. Therefore, you don’t have an arguement. You can’t have it both ways.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I can’t blame any conservative for not voting for Romney in the general. Vote your principles. Don’t be intimidated by those who tell you otherwise. It’s your vote, your freedom, and that does include not voting for Romney vs Obama.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I agree, everyone should do what they think is best according to their own principles. And my principles tell me its far better to vote for someone I agree with 70% of the time, rather than for some one I disagree with 100% of the time. My principles also tell me its better for the country, to get Obama out of office, rather than me staying home and being “right”. This election isn’t about me, its about my grandkids and their kids…

gaius on March 23, 2012 at 12:14 PM

this guys the same as Obama!

It’s all Bush’s mitten’s fault!

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I thought you were more of a big picture Dr. ??

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I could argue that big picture nominating a liberal REpublican like Romney is a bad thing for the future of the REpublican party. I think the party is close to fracturing.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM

“Good night Rick.”

Enough with the peevishness. We’ve had enough of that for the past 3 years.

ABO 2012.

MOTUS on March 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM

That’s fine, vote for Romney if you think he’s 5% conservatism is better than Obama’s 0% conservatism. I’m not telling you not to, just don’t hate other people who see it different.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:16 PM

For the first time since Captains Quarters days I am disappointed with you Ed.

You should be doing the walk back.

It was totally obvious that Rick was talking about a voter in a booth in November. What would be going so many swing voters minds. Do I vote for Obama or Romney Etch a Sketch.

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,”

You win by …
If you’re going to be would have been better worded
You will lose.

But really first he states how you win logically he then is stating how you lose as a Party.

Romneys strategy has lost every single time it has been tried. Five times in a row going to the left lost. Are Republicans insane?

What he said is totally different that saying I would vote for Obama over Romney. It is saying many voters will vote for Obama over Romney so many Romney will lose. Romney will lose. If not he would be the very first leftist Republican to win.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 12:17 PM

To paraphrase Franklin: Those who sacrifice liberty to make a point don’t deserve liberty. We need every anti-Obama vote. And each one must be maximally effective. To be maximally effective, it must be for the Republican nominee. No help is coming. It’s up to each and every one of us to do our best to defeat Obama. We can argue about the purity of the Republican party after we save the country. If we don’t defeat Obama this election-it won’t matter.

talkingpoints on March 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Which is why Rick Santorum and we his supporters are fighting so hard to change things. We want a candidate we can all get behind, not the one who buys his way through, and one who will win in November. There are plenty of us who disagree that Romney is the only one who can do that. If anything, he’s the one who will lose guaranteed. He’s the one the democrats are salivating over, not Rick or Newt.

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 12:17 PM

A Republican party that consistently flips off the conservative base that makes it a contender can not long survive.

-Lincoln

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Philly on March 23, 2012 at 11:59 AM

He’s been sucking and spewing Hotair to his own detriment. Santy has made his own preposterous bed, both by sanctimoniously interfering with everyone else’s beds and by playing the staying with Obama card that the not-Romney’s use in desperation all the time. “If Romney’s the nominee, I’ll stay home or I’ll vote Obama.” Santy has ended his own career in a conspicuously Algore sore loser syndrome sort of way.

Are you still planning on voting for him in the PA primary?

Slainte on March 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Maybe the Whigs weren’t so bad afterall.

Lincoln, 2012

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM

teehee…in other words you spout Santz talking points and support big labor

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Big labor…now that’s a new one, calling me supporting big labor…for seven years of posting you are the first and only ones to spot it, and here I was trying to hide the fact the past several years.
Now here is the catch, you brilliant man, show me the posts where you have discovered that I was for “big labor”…I have literally thousands so it won’t be hard.
Where did we get these new posters…they are mostly idiots, good grief.
Wait a minute, maybe I do support Santz

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM

At some point, the truth should matter, not the spin people put on it. Where will the contrast be when Romney and Obama stand on the debate stage addressing healthcare mandates, cap-and-trade, and the Wall Street bailouts? The only difference I see is that one is a Democrat and one is a Republican. How are you going to rally conservatives to vote for a moderate/liberal? How are you going to get boots on the ground to work for a candidate they are told to vote for even if they have to hold their noses? Spin all you want, but this is the truth they need to address, and Santorum is the only one saying it out loud.

lea on March 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM

mittbot’s do you support Romneycare!

If you do, then you support Obamacare!

They are the same thing, infact, romney’s advisors crafted obamacare.

Isn’t it interesting Hoe Air, doesn’t have a thread today on the two year anniverary of Obamacare as to why conservatives won’t vote for romneycare.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/mar/20/romneycare-and-obamacare-can-you-tell-difference/

Basically, they say it’s exactly the same

Mitt Romney has gone to great lengths to distance his Massachusetts health plan from the federal law, even giving a PowerPoint presentation to emphasize the differences. But the truth is that there are an awful lot of similarities between the plan he signed in Massachusetts in 2006, often called “RomneyCare,” and the one that President Barack Obama signed in 2010, dubbed “ObamaCare.”

Both leave in place the major insurance systems: employer-provided insurance, Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the poor. They seek to reduce the number of uninsured by expanding Medicaid and by offering tax breaks to help moderate income people buy insurance. People are required to buy insurance or pay a penalty, a mechanism called the “individual mandate.” And companies that don’t offer insurance have to pay fines, with exceptions for small business and a few other cases.

Danielvito on March 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Romney Santorum blows if you look at his liberal record in Mass PA. People don’t have to pretend it’s not what it is simply b/c he calls himself a Republican. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem. Deal with it.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 PM

I accept every criticism made against Mitt Romney. For me, he is the last not-Obama standing. If there is no difference between Romney and Obama, neither is there any difference between Santorum and Obama.

I’ll take a guy who created a budget-busting state entitlement over a guy who voted for a budget-busting Federal entitlement like Medicare Part D.

I’ll take a guy who balanced the state budget by cutting spending growth and raising a few fees over a guy who helped put us in debt to the Chinese for trillions by voting for every big spending project in sight while cutting taxes to pose as a fiscal con.

I’ll take a guy who admitted that his vacillating on abortion was his biggest mistake over the guy who voted to fund Planned Parenthood because the funding was “in a bigger bill”.

I’ll take the guy who spent most of his time using the veto pen over the guy who lives to “take one for the team”.

And I’ll take the guy who had the stones to run in MA as a Republican and win, over the guy who stumbles over himself pandering to his base and still can’t seal the deal, and who lost his home Senate race by a landslide even after clearing his etch-a-sketch and running to the center.

Lord knows the unions will be safe if Santorum beats Obama. But we can have a dialogue on contraception. Just like we are having now with this President. Romney, if I remember correctly, refused to talk about it.

Santorum is a hack. Just admit it. You’ll feel better.

Mr. Arkadin on March 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I could argue that big picture nominating a liberal REpublican like Romney is a bad thing for the future of the REpublican party. I think the party is close to fracturing.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Its only one 4yr election cycle for the Rominator. Allowing the states to fall further under the power of the Fed government is a much more serious and more difficult to correct structural issue to deal with it. See Levin.

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Good analysis at the end…

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Anybody that thinks Romney trumps anybody isn’t a conservative.

RomneyCare is a dealbreaker to any thinking conservative.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM

I’m not saying don’t for Romney.

I’m saying get over Santorum’s comment. Romney blows. It’s the truth.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Santorum has managed to squander whatever opportunity he had. Voters are so enthusiastic for him that it’s a near mathematical impossibility for him to win the nomination.

beatcanvas on March 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I would never vote for Barack Obama over any Republican and to suggest otherwise is preposterous. — Sen. Santorum

I can only hope that his supporters will follow his lead.

gaius on March 23, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Santorum is a hack. Just admit it. You’ll feel better.

Mr. Arkadin on March 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM

That is why he received an A from the National Taxpayers Union 12 years in the row…the highest ranking a Senator received and the only one who received in the last 4 years of Bush’s reign…that’s an unbiased report given each year.
I think I take their word over yours, an unknown poster/blogger, no offense, but you do understand that their analysis is more detailed than anything you or I could ever come up with…agreed?
If not, what organization has chosen Mitt as being more conservative?

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Danielvito on March 23, 2012 at 12:19 PM

OMG ! Politifiction ?? Your gonna quote/cite Politifiction for your view ? are you effing insane? That is a freakin left wing propaganda tool- and you will not ever use again in HA.

If you want to go full on liberal- use Media matters.

This is pathetic.

FlaMurph on March 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM

right2bright on March 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM

try to employ some nuance and sarcasm in conversation…it’s fun and easy!

DHChron on March 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM

It’s the usual, losing in 2012 is actually winning in 2016 argument.

Except we lost in 2008 with McCain, so we should be winning in 2012 based on their logic. The fact that the entire camp of candidates in 2012 sucks was not predictable in 2008. We could just easily end up with the same crap sandwich…

and it is highly likely we will end up with a very similar crap sandwich in 2016.

Losing in 2012, is losing in 2012.

We have to play with the people who have taken the field, they all suck, we know that, but you have to pick the turd that floats to the top. That turd is Romney. Based on the election results so far, he’s the only one that has the votes to beat Obama.

If you believe he is being hoisted onto us by the so called “establishment”; how is that going to change if we go to the convention? Do you think the so called “establishment” is going to grab some third string untested unproven un-vetted person with no votes to replace their candidate with votes?

Might as well get to used to being stuck with Romney. If you want Obama out, just hold your nose and vote for him. If not, you’ll have nobody to blame but yourself for staying home.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM

If Romney had to win a majority of reliable red states and red leaning swing states, he would have lost the nomination.

He’s winning the blue states in the primary that Obama will take in the general.

He’s not a legit nominee if you look at it logically. He doesn’t represent the reliable conservative states.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Anybody that thinks Romney trumps anybody isn’t a conservative.

RomneyCare is a dealbreaker to any thinking conservative.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM

And I would suggest anyone who thinks Obama’s unchecked “girls gone wild” second term is preferential to President Romney, isn’t a conservative either. Your milage may vary…

gaius on March 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM

It’s one thing when HA commenters have Romney Derangement Syndrome.

It’s quite another when a candidate has it.

Red Cloud on March 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Santorum doesn’t understand that he’s not apologizing to Romney for being a dick, he’s apologizing to the voters for committing a terrible political sin. In what universe is any Republican not better than the most destructive president in our lifetime?

Santorum has a bad case of hubris and is not qualified for President. Apology not accepted.

Immolate on March 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM

“I would never vote for Barack Obama over any Republican and to suggest otherwise is preposterous. This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort and distract the media and voters from the unshakeable fact that many of Romney’s policies mirror Barack Obama’s. I was simply making the point that there is a huge enthusiasm gap around Mitt Romney and it’s easy to see why – Romney has sided with Obama on healthcare mandates, cap-and-trade, and the Wall Street bailouts. Voters have to be excited enough to actually go vote, and my campaign’s movement to restore freedom is exciting this nation. If this election is about Obama versus the Obama-Lite candidate, we have a tough time rallying this nation. It’s time for bold vision, bold reforms and bold contrasts. This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and I will fight to restore your freedoms.”

He’s absolutely right about Romney, but he’s completely wrong about himself being any better. We’re going to have Obama-lite. That’s all we have to choose from. That’s why there is no enthusiasm, except from those who WANT Obama-lite, and have no problem crapping all over conservatives.

JannyMae on March 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM

I dont know anybody can assert with confidence that ROmney will be better than Obama. How do we know until we elect him? He’s been all over the place in his rhetoric, and his record in political power was extremely liberal.

You act like doubting Romney is like doubting Michael Jordan was good at basketball.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM

And I would suggest anyone who thinks Obama’s unchecked “girls gone wild” second term is preferential to President Romney, isn’t a conservative either. Your milage may vary…

gaius on March 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Threadwinner.

Immolate on March 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM

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