Study: EPA regulations eliminate more than 1,850 jobs

posted at 7:35 pm on March 22, 2012 by Tina Korbe

According to a study published on the American Action Forum website, recent Environmental Protection Agency regulations have led to the elimination of nearly 2,000 jobs.

The energy companies American Electric Power, FirstEnergy, GenOn and Midwest Generation announced recently that they will have to close five, nine, eight and two power plants, respectively, to meet EPA requirements.

Specifically, the EPA’s Utility MACT rule, a part of the agency’s Mercury and Air Toxic Standards, is toxic to jobs. When the EPA introduced the rule suspiciously close to Christmas (hoping to fly under the radar much?), a number of industry experts explained that opposition to the regulations stems not from a desire for dirty air (seriously, who wants that?) but from plain ol’ realism.

“Utility MACT will undermine job creation in the United States in several different ways,” [Scott Segal, the director of the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council,] explained. “It will result in retirement of a significant number of power plants and either fail to replace that capacity or replace it with less labor-intensive forms of generation.  It will increase the cost of power, undermining the international competitiveness of almost two dozen manufacturing industries, and it will reduce employment upstream in the mining sectors.  All told, it is anticipated that the rule will result in the loss of some 1.44 million jobs by 2020.  While some jobs are created by complying with the new rule, the number and quality of those jobs is far less than those destroyed.  We estimate that for every one temporary job created, four higher-paying permanent jobs are lost.”

The industry wasn’t ready to comply with the regulations, but the EPA released them anyway — and, now, the predicted consequences have materialized.

The EPA’s regulatory war on American energy  is particularly important to recall as the president continues to claim that he takes an “all-of-the-above” approach to energy. If by “all of the above,” Obama means, “I like some kinds of energy and not others,” then, yeah, he takes an all-of-the-above approach. Otherwise, he takes the pick-and-choose approach — and doesn’t hesitate to wield the power of the tax code and regulatory agencies to reward those forms of energy he likes and punish those forms he dislikes.


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Didn’t some democrat say that regulations create jobs because companies have to hire people to do compliance?

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 7:37 PM

“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you”

Reagan stated these were the most terrifying words…

right2bright on March 22, 2012 at 7:40 PM

According to a study published on the American Action Forum website, recent Environmental Protection Agency regulations have led to the elimination of nearly 2,000 jobs.

Only 2000 jobs? Then it seems that reducing EPA regulations back to the Bush era won’t exactly solve this country’s unemployment issues.

It’s likely that addressing the trade deficit with China and other account imbalances would have a much larger impact on this country’s competitiveness and economic growth. But that topic isn’t political enough and more complicated than EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

It’s likely that addressing the trade deficit with China and other account imbalances would have a much larger impact on this country’s competitiveness and economic growth. But that topic isn’t political enough and more complicated than EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

This.

Trade is one of the most crucial (and ignored) issues of our time.

Stoic Patriot on March 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Yep. Shame really.

Bmore on March 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM

It’s likely that addressing the trade deficit with China and other account imbalances would have a much larger impact on this country’s competitiveness and economic growth. But that topic isn’t political enough and more complicated than EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

because making electricity artificially expensive will make manufacturers more competitive?

newrouter on March 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Only 2000 jobs?

Typical leftist compassion.

jawkneemusic on March 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

That number is way too low we are closing 2 dirt burners in Florida and 5 in NC. It’s happening all over. Getting rid of the EPA and most of it worthless regulations would be a great thing. This really a state issue anyway and most states do a very good job protecting their environments.

whbates on March 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

please explain why this agency is still needed in 2012?

newrouter on March 22, 2012 at 7:49 PM

The DOTUS (and his minions) were in Hick/Hayseed/flyover country today trying to take credit for this…..

But the governor took him a bit to task.

http://www.koco.com/news/30740591/detail.html

PappyD61 on March 22, 2012 at 7:53 PM

GOP time for an ad.

rbj on March 22, 2012 at 7:54 PM

LMAO!

Google ‘epa creates jobs’ and you get a gazillion hits linking to all the leftist’s websites.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

the koch bros. vs the epa ad is amusing

newrouter on March 22, 2012 at 8:00 PM

They were evil jobs!

Obama only like utopian good jobs.

You haven’t been payin’ attenshun!” as Super-Barack puts it.

profitsbeard on March 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Echo chamber talk and wacky ideas. I went to a school that had an environmental program. Those boys graduated from the masters program making 120K a year and they got lined up for jobs before they even graduated. There is a reason the EPA was created.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

But…but…but you just wait Tina! Those carbon-free unicorns and their non-toxic farts will be coming on-line any time now. Soon. Real soon. Just wait and see. Maybe.

Just like all those “Green jobs” that were going to start sprouting up all over in Kali-fornia. Just like Arnie said.

And we’re still waiting.

GarandFan on March 22, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Echo chamber talk and wacky ideas. I went to a school that had an environmental program. Those boys graduated from the masters program making 120K a year and they got lined up for jobs before they even graduated. There is a reason the EPA was created.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

They likely create nothing of value outside of being cogs in bureaucracy.

This rogue dept. has done more to drive manufacturing jobs out of the USA than any other thing. Those were good middle-class jobs that didn’t require a college education.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Only 2000 jobs? Then it seems that reducing EPA regulations back to the Bush era won’t exactly solve this country’s unemployment issues.

It’s likely that addressing the trade deficit with China and other account imbalances would have a much larger impact on this country’s competitiveness and economic growth. But that topic isn’t political enough and more complicated than EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

2 Philadelphia area refineries has shut down and a third will close by Jul 1st. These account for 50% of the East Coast gasoline production and more than 2000 jobs all due to EPA regulations.

RickB on March 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I can’t wait till my power company closes those nine coal plants and raises my rates again.

Energy costs are destroying the middle class.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

If by “all of the above,” Obama means, “I like some kinds of energy and not others,
=========================

Tina,look at this article,I`m sure you`ll see it for what it is!
Obama is for Nuclear,period!!:)

3. He can openly acknowledge his desire to take over the energy industry so as to force the nation off petroleum and onto renewables and knock off the rhetoric that he wants to end tax breaks for oil companies for any reason other than that.
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The only Energy sector Obama wants is Nuclear!

October 13, 2011
Obama’s Power Grid
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President Barack Obama’s environmental record has prompted eco-minded groups to call his policies “disastrous,” a “nightmare,” and a “sell-out.” Less well-known, however, is the fact that Obama himself has long been allied with Chicago-area pro-nuclear-energy leaders and that several people in his core council have professionally benefited from their association with Exelon, the power company that runs America’s largest nuclear fleet.

With Japan’s nuclear accident still looming, many in the environmental movement, who initially supported Obama’s “clean-energy” agenda, have been turned off, but, as Vanity Fair contributing editor Robert Sam Anson brings to light, Obama and his inner circle have vowed not to take the nuclear-power option off the table.

He’s warned of “the worst consequences of climate change” unless new nuclear plants sprout from the land. And of countries like China eating our technological lunch. And of unemployment getting even worse, due to the loss of good, green jobs. And of nothing less than “our economy, our security, and the future of our planet” being at risk.

As for political clout, it’s summed up by how Exelon’s former chief Washington lobbyist, Elizabeth Moler (who served as deputy national co-chair for the Obama campaign), described her employer to Forbes:

“the President’s utility.”
(More…….)
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http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/10/obama-nuclear-201110

canopfor on March 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

You serfs will thank us in 2590.

-EPA

antipc on March 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Those boys graduated from the masters program making 120K a year and they got lined up for jobs before they even graduated. There is a reason the EPA was created

trees against paper pushers disagrees

newrouter on March 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM

No surprises there.

After this november, no matter who wins, Romney or obama, expect more of the same.

More more more more of the same.

Wolfmoon on March 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM

While the EPA destroys jobs,hows this for a Lefty EnvironmentalWacko MindSet!!!!!!!!!!!

Study:
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Higher Gas Prices Save Lives
23 March 2008 Time: 08:00 PM ET
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The recent 20 percent increase in gasoline prices may be associated with nearly 2,600 fewer deaths nationwide from motor vehicle crashes and air pollution, according to the research detailed in the March issue of the Journal of Occupational and Environmental(More….)

http://www.livescience.com/2385-study-higher-gas-prices-save-lives.html
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Media: High Gas Prices Save Lives
April 12, 2011
***************

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: By the way, CNN just had a crawl up, a graphic — get this– claiming that for every 10 cents price increase in gasoline, highway deaths are reduced by 2.3%. Now, how can Obama lose with a media like that? So now all of a sudden gas prices going up saves lives; gas prices going up is great news!

Okay, then, why stop at five bucks a gallon? Let’s go to ten bucks a gallon and reduce highway deaths by 10%. This is how this works. Look, this is why — I’m sorry for the long monologues today, but this is why — we can’t succeed if we’re gonna be overwhelmingly concerned what people think of us. CNN? We’re never gonna get a fair shake out of them. We shouldn’t even make it one of our objectives. (long sigh) I guess some of us want to be guest commentators on CNN. Who the hell knows?(More…..)
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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/04/12/media_high_gas_prices_save_lives

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Echo chamber talk and wacky ideas. I went to a school that had an environmental program. Those boys graduated from the masters program making 120K a year and they got lined up for jobs before they even graduated. There is a reason the EPA was created.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Soon we’ll be able to (proudly?) say: “We’re all government employees now!” [Side benefit: like the workers in the paradise of the old Soviet Union, we can become vodka alcoholics to get through each day ...]

Since all humans pollute by their very existence and are considered the worst virus on the planet, isn’t the utopian conclusion of the “socially just” thing to do to simply eliminate all humans? [Well, of course not all; the miniscule minority of the self-anointed elite will get to stick around, though not as many as expect ...]

“By refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word … They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: ‘But I didn’t mean this!’” — Ayn Rand

ShainS on March 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Rush keeps the cookies on the bottom shelf :)

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Didn’t some democrat say that regulations create jobs because companies have to hire people to do compliance?

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 7:37 PM

…YES! Recently!…(sounds like something Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi would say.)

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Save more than 185,000 lives.

lester on March 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

If not for the EPA, all of us would be dead from volcanoes.

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM

O/T,

New Jersey Senate committee rejects Gov. Christie’s Supreme Court nominee Phillip Kwon – @njdotcomStory

Submitted 1 hour ago from http://www.nj.com
http://www.breakingnews.com/
============================

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/senate_committee_rejects_phill.html

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM

It’s likely that addressing the trade deficit with China and other account imbalances would have a much larger impact on this country’s competitiveness and economic growth. But that topic isn’t political enough and more complicated than EPA-bashing so it will go ignored.

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

That’s because you lib/Dems just don’t understand that it’s the taxes, regulations and union costs that you keep pushing that are driing that imbalance and the outsourcing of jobs. China wouldn’t be a problem if our companies were allowed to compete without the burden the government and unions impose – thanks to you libs/Dems.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 8:46 PM

If not for the EPA, all of us would be dead from volcanoes.

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Bishop:D*mn straight,especially the under water sea-floor Volcanoes
that are spewing gas`s and are premedating murdering the
oceans!!:)

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:47 PM

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM
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Rush keeps the cookies on the bottom shelf :)

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

tom daschle:Lol,no doubt!!

canopfor on March 22, 2012 at 8:49 PM

China wouldn’t be a problem if our companies were allowed to compete without the burden the government and unions impose – thanks to you libs/Dems.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 8:46 PM

The reason we can’t compete, at least in manufacturing is we don’t have slave labour. Chinese, build a pair of scissors, with the metal and plastic material, package it, ship it to the US, then a retailer sells is for $1.50 and even with the cost of sales makes a %30 profit.

This is next to impossible to compete with, regardless of unions or taxes unless workers do three shifts, live on $20 a day wage and sleep in the factory.

lester on March 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM

1,850 down… just a few tens of millions to go!

Kill the energy sector and they can get the clean sweep, and then NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK.

ajacksonian on March 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM

The reason we can’t compete, at least in manufacturing is we don’t have slave labour. Chinese, build a pair of scissors, with the metal and plastic material, package it, ship it to the US, then a retailer sells is for $1.50 and even with the cost of sales makes a %30 profit.

This is next to impossible to compete with, regardless of unions or taxes unless workers do three shifts, live on $20 a day wage and sleep in the factory.

lester on March 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Typical lib. The reason we can’t compete with that is BECAUSE of the government regulations, red tape, tax levels, and unions costs. You’re a typical Dem tool to think China is all slave labor as well. China has one of the fastest climbint standard of living. Why do thing they need so much more oil/gasoline? Because their workers are all buying CARS now!!! That’s not slave labor.

we used to be able to produce cheap manufactured goods also – because of technology. But the government/union burden has destroyed that advantage.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Typical lib. The reason we can’t compete with that is BECAUSE of the government regulations, red tape, tax levels, and unions costs. You’re a typical Dem tool to think China is all slave labor as well. China has one of the fastest climbint standard of living. Why do thing they need so much more oil/gasoline? Because their workers are all buying CARS now!!! That’s not slave labor.

we used to be able to produce cheap manufactured goods also – because of technology. But the government/union burden has destroyed that advantage.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM

My take on unions has changed in the past year or so. I am pro-union in the private sector where Union leadership must sit across a table and cut a deal with the company. Public unions are just stupid and should be banned.

My residual anti-union feelings revolve around the democrat party-union relationship. The party uses the union leadership as a money launderer. It isn’t even arguable at this point that democrat policies are absolutely toxic to the very industries that the private labor union workforce inhabit. I blame the Union leadership and democrats.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM

we used to be able to produce cheap manufactured goods also – because of technology. But the government/union burden has destroyed that advantage.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Of course you have no explanation as to why the Japanese and Germans continually beat the US into the ground with higher taxes and more regulation. You actually believe the same talking points that were embraced by Bush during an era when the US trade deficit exploded and a record number of jobs were shipped overseas. Is that really the best you can do?

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Of course you have no explanation as to why the Japanese and Germans continually beat the US into the ground with higher taxes and more regulation.

fantasy from a statist

newrouter on March 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM

recent Environmental Protection Agency regulations have led to the elimination of nearly 2,000 jobs.

Heh, way, way too low guys. OK, you did say “recent”, but what do you reckon the total employment losses were from the almost total elimination of the following industries by 4 decades of EPA tyranny?

Metal plating
Foundries and Forges
Tool-and-Die
Metal fabricating

My guess is it’s a bit more than 2000. Now they’re taking down the coal fired plants and refineries.

Hope and change.

Mr Galt on March 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I had no real opinion on unions until in my 20s I moved up to a state in the northeast with no right to work laws. My employer there was a union shop and I watched the laziness and saw how impossible it was to fire people regardless what they do, such as committing felonies on company property, sleeping in the locker room while clocked in, taking 30 minute breaks every 35 minutes, etc.

Even a personal experience where I was struggling to move something (I was salaried and worked in the front office) and there were about 20 people that walked by me, I asked some of them for help, they flat out refused and said thats not part of their job. The times that I did get help with things from the hourlies – I had to schedule it in advance with their boss.

I later transferred to a right to work state with the same company. There was no union at that facility and the workers had voted them down repeatedly. I never had a problem with a single person there other than the standard personality conflicts you would experience anywhere. It’s like night and day the way people act when they don’t have the privilege of refusing to do everything that isn’t specifically written in a contract and signed by 3 levels of management and the union president.

I have no love for unions how they operate today. They could all be dissolved for all I care.

Kelligan on March 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

I had no real opinion on unions until in my 20s I moved up to a state in the northeast with no right to work laws. My employer there was a union shop and I watched the laziness and saw how impossible it was to fire people regardless what they do, such as committing felonies on company property, sleeping in the locker room while clocked in, taking 30 minute breaks every 35 minutes, etc.

Even a personal experience where I was struggling to move something (I was salaried and worked in the front office) and there were about 20 people that walked by me, I asked some of them for help, they flat out refused and said thats not part of their job. The times that I did get help with things from the hourlies – I had to schedule it in advance with their boss.

I later transferred to a right to work state with the same company. There was no union at that facility and the workers had voted them down repeatedly. I never had a problem with a single person there other than the standard personality conflicts you would experience anywhere. It’s like night and day the way people act when they don’t have the privilege of refusing to do everything that isn’t specifically written in a contract and signed by 3 levels of management and the union president.

I have no love for unions how they operate today. They could all be dissolved for all I care.

Kelligan on March 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM

I see it every day. I’ve been on both sides. I do not think that the laziness and obstinance you see in unions is any different from the same thing you see on the ‘salary’ side. It is all part of the human continuum of integrity and work ethic.

I think unions went off the rails in the 70′s and became too big for their britches. The world changed, the global market emerged, cheap labor in regulation lax countries emerged. It was inexpensive to transport goods. The olde guard union leadership and the old timer hourly workers didn’t see that the game had changed. They took too much and gave back too little. I see all types at my plant. The super lazy obstinate types, and the go getters.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Of course you have no explanation as to why the Japanese and Germans continually beat the US into the ground with higher taxes and more regulation. You actually believe the same talking points that were embraced by Bush during an era when the US trade deficit exploded and a record number of jobs were shipped overseas. Is that really the best you can do?

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Are you really that clueless – of course you are – you prove it here every day. The Japanese and European economies are in a hard downhill slide precisely because of their taxes and socialism.
Why are our jobs going overseas? Are you that blind? Look right here within the US – companies are leaving the high tax high regulation Dem controlled states for right to work states. German companies are building plants in right to work US states because even with our government problems it’s still a better deal than Germany.
Get a clue.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM

My take on unions has changed in the past year or so. I am pro-union in the private sector where Union leadership must sit across a table and cut a deal with the company. Public unions are just stupid and should be banned.

My residual anti-union feelings revolve around the democrat party-union relationship. The party uses the union leadership as a money launderer. It isn’t even arguable at this point that democrat policies are absolutely toxic to the very industries that the private labor union workforce inhabit. I blame the Union leadership and democrats.

tom daschle concerned on March 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I don’t like any unions – because of what they do and how they do it. I don’t want someone else negotiating what my pay will be – I’ll do that for myself based on my value. Unions lead to mediocre or lower quality workmanship and higher cost because it’s socialist at it’s core – everyone gets the same pay no matter what their productivity, work ethic, skills, and real value – so the work always devolves to the lowest common denominator. Why do you think everying produced in the Soviet Union was poor quality? Union mentality in a socialist country – and vice versa.

dentarthurdent on March 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Tina, you placed the wrong picture of a power plant. This is a combined cycle, natural gas burning plant. From what I’ve read, the EPA regulations target coal fired plants. Mercury is not a component of natural gas burning like it is with coal. Natural gas is clean and these plants emit mainly NOX, which is controlled to a ridiculously low 2.5 ppm with ammonia injection through a selective catalytic reduction(SCR)at plants here in California where I work as an operator.

Decoski on March 23, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Japanese and European economies are in a hard downhill slide precisely because of their taxes and socialism

Is that right? Germany is going downhill? What part of 7.6% unemployment rate and trade surplus do you not understand?

Yes, more empty drivel from the right. If only taxes were lower in the US (despite their historic lows of today), the brilliance and productivity of Joe the Plumber would be unleashed. It’s not that Americans were completely unprepared for a truly global economy and agreed to one-sided trade agreements. It’s that the government is holding you back!

It’s time for people to stop blaming the government and take responsibility for their problems. Or at least have the intelligence to recognize that rolling back a few regulations isn’t going to turn the economy around.

bayam on March 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM

2,000 Jobs is only the direct jobs, there many other jobs in these communities that were supporting the operations and the tax base will simply disappear. You may argue that these plants will be replaced by wind and solar but only a fool will listen to you. What is most likely is the plants will be demolished and natural gas fired plants will be built on the same sites because they already own the property and the connections to the grid are in place, but the process will take a long time because of all the regulatory approvals needed,it could take years.

dunce on March 23, 2012 at 3:52 AM

The EPA is like a government within a government and they do have the power to destroy with no reason but to show their power. The case of the couple building their home when they had all the permits necessary and then the EPA got involved and charged them out of site fines. There are many of these agencies of the government that are really federal entitlement programs stuffed with federal workers drawing a paycheck for what? Here’s a list to look over that you will never hear a politician wanting to cut. http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/index.shtml

mixplix on March 23, 2012 at 4:51 AM

bayam on March 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Nothing you have stated is correct. You f*@&^ng moron.

I don’t like any unions – because of what they do and how they do it. I don’t want someone else negotiating what my pay will be – I’ll do that for myself based on my value. Unions lead to mediocre or lower quality workmanship and higher cost because it’s socialist at it’s core – everyone gets the same pay no matter what their productivity, work ethic, skills, and real value – so the work always devolves to the lowest common denominator. Why do you think everying produced in the Soviet Union was poor quality? Union mentality in a socialist country – and vice versa.

Ok then…

I’d love for you to walk one day in my shoes. My union is a joke. Most of the people I work with are pathetic jokes. I wouldn’t trade one bit of my current work situation for my past non union experiences.

I left R&D corporate BS to work hourly in production. I will never look back. I work a job with pride where I don’t have to have a college degree. My coworkers are good people. I make so much more than when I worked in r&D in corporate America. What a joke that was. $18/hr with a graduate degree…

tom daschle concerned on March 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM

Or at least have the intelligence to recognize that rolling back a few regulations isn’t going to turn the economy around.

bayam on March 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Ah, the typical liberal meme. It’s the aggregate of all Zero’s policies, including these, that have destroyed the economy. Many of us see the wider canvas people like you try to obscure and lie about.

dogsoldier on March 23, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Only 2000 jobs? Then it seems that reducing EPA regulations back to the Bush era won’t exactly solve this country’s unemployment issues.

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Just one regulation. The EPA has tens of thousands more. The job-killing effects add up.

I wonder how many blackouts and brownouts will occur in affected states. I wonder how much energy prices will skyrocket. I wonder how many old folk will die because they can no longer afford to heat their homes… though that’s a bonus for the inhuman eco-fascists.

theCork on March 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM

bayam on March 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Most likely the report should read 2000 job classifications or job types. When you consider that 2000 job types are no longer needed. Within those job types could be 100,000+ individuals with a specific skill set that will be lost.

I sometimes wonder how many folks actually ‘critically’ think before they start typing their comments. I know critical thinking skills are not taught in schools today, so that could be part of the problem. Or, maybe, you have just never really worked in the real world?

uhangtight on March 23, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Or at least have the intelligence to recognize that rolling back a few regulations isn’t going to turn the economy around.

bayam on March 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM

But adding thousands more will?

Paraphrasing “Time Bandits”: Bayam, dear bayam, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence.

runawayyyy on March 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Is that right? Germany is going downhill? What part of 7.6% unemployment rate and trade surplus do you not understand?

Yes, more empty drivel from the right. If only taxes were lower in the US (despite their historic lows of today), the brilliance and productivity of Joe the Plumber would be unleashed. It’s not that Americans were completely unprepared for a truly global economy and agreed to one-sided trade agreements. It’s that the government is holding you back!

It’s time for people to stop blaming the government and take responsibility for their problems. Or at least have the intelligence to recognize that rolling back a few regulations isn’t going to turn the economy around.

bayam on March 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM

And you respond with more idiotic libtard talking points. Thanks to Obummer you actually thing 7.6% unemployment is a GOOD thing? We were below 6% before Obummer took over and took us to nearly 10%. Just because Germany is doing better than many other EU countries doesn’t mean they’re in good shape. But libtards like you buy Obummers “new normal” crap and actually believe it’s good.

Cutting LOTS of regulations will help. Reducing our corporate income tax from 35% to something that is not the highest in the world (after Japan reduces theirs from 39%) would help. Allowing more oli drilling where we know there is il wuld help.

dentarthurdent on March 24, 2012 at 7:40 PM