Santorum: Maybe America’s better off with Obama than taking a risk on an “Etch-a-Sketch” candidate

posted at 5:50 pm on March 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

Faced with the reality that his chances have collapsed, the Sweater Vest begins to unravel:

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

During a press avail following the event, Santorum, who carried the Etch A Sketch during his speech, argued that Romney knows he can’t win in the general election.

“All the things that allow Romney to win the primary are unavailable to him to win the general and that’s why you see these Etch A Sketch comments because he knows he can’t win,” said Santorum.

Romney issued a statement later saying he’s “disappointed to hear that Rick Santorum would rather have Barack Obama as president than a Republican.” Question for Team RS: What “risk” is there, exactly, that President Etch-a-Sketch would be worse than Obama? Even if his political instincts carry him towards the center, he knows he can’t stray too far from the base on big-ticket items like, oh, say, Supreme Court appointments. That’s a big difference, not a little difference, and a pro-life advocate as passionate as Santorum surely knows it. I’m no Romney fan, yet the only argument I can come up with in which The One is possibly maybe supposedly conceivably theoretically preferable to Romney is some sort of “only Nixon can go to China” reasoning. Only a Republican like Nixon could make nice with Mao because a Democrat would have been accused by the right of harboring secret communist sympathies. Nixon’s party ID immunized him from that; by the same token, you could argue that if an attack on Iran is inevitable it’s better that Obama gives the order than Romney because the anti-war left will roll over like puppies for him (again). You could, if you’re really daring, even argue that only a Democratic president can sign entitlement reform because partisan loyalty will help defang some of its many, many, many, many liberal opponents. I don’t buy the latter argument, though — I think it’s one of the few policy areas in which the left will be ferocious even in opposing a Democratic president, if not quite as ferocious as they’d be towards a Republican. (That’s one reason Obama hasn’t been aggressive about it despite his campaign promises about entitlements.) And as for Iran, are you willing to purchase relative liberal silence on an attack at the high price of trillions more in debt and a few new stridently liberal SCOTUS justices? I’ll pass.

I’m actually amazed he’s making this argument given the hard feelings it’ll engender among Republicans who’ll soon be rallying around Romney in an “anybody but Obama” fervor. Santorum’s sunk this time but he’s raised his profile significantly for 2016. Time to start thinking ahead strategically instead of letting bitterness run away with that yapper of his. Exit quotation from Byron York: “Asked what other plans Santorum had to call attention to the [Etch-a-Sketch] matter, [Santorum spokesman Alice] Stewart said, ‘Lots.’”


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Woody was the last man standing….the GOP primary idiots got so picky that Pawlenty or Perry would be the superior choice next to Romney

Pawlenty was a governor and Perry is governor of Texas BUT you idiots dumped on Pawlenty because of he lacked charisma and Perry for his immigration/tuition for illegal stance

blame yourselves, you jerks

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Here it is… I had to work all night and I missed the opportunity for the quadrennial — “I watched the video, but all I heard was BYAHHH” post.

Congrats to whoever beat me to it.

cantaffordcollege on March 23, 2012 at 1:32 AM

If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

I haven’t cut into Santorum at all this cycle. I thought he was a decent guy fighting big odds.

Turns out he’s just a spaz.

What’s worse:

- implying that your constituents are a pack of racists while running in the primary; or

- saying that the frontrunner, (who was made the frontrunner by virtue of more votes than you), is worse than a socialist democrat and is a loser?

Santorum is just unable to control himself. He lets the media drag him off message time and again, to the point that he’s now running a campaign about conservative social issues.

Santorum should keep his sights trained on Obama and the economy. Now I have to wonder if Santorum is as erratic as Gingrich, but without the nimble mind.

jaime on March 23, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Hard to believe there was a time I actually admired Rick Santorum. How arrogant and petulant do you have to be to be willing to screw the country because they didn’t choose you?

Smile for the camera, Rick. The dictionary wants your pictures. Look under childish, loser, whiner…

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Sorry to break this to you, but there will never be a utopia where a politician (or anyone for that matter) doesn’t lie.

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Wow! No wonder you are so easily persuaded. The life you’ve placed yourself in doesn’t appeal to me at all. I guess you are one of those city dwellers, eh?

Where I live a person is judged by [amongst other things] their honesty, and liars are not well respected as there are so many people of integrity in my area.

Instead of spending so many hours defending lies with more lies all easily disproved, smart people tell the truth. You see, their time is valuable and their integrity is beyond value. Maybe that is why there are so few smart people like Newt and Sarah in politics today.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:38 AM

There is nothing wrong with attempting to get the votes of democrats weary of the Socialist, but perhaps Santorum thinks a choice between 2 socialists is no choice at all, or that selecting the socialist in RINO clothing would be the worst of both worlds.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:28 AM

pure hyperbole, especially that last sentence.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Ok…NOW Santorum’s officially crazy.

In the end, I guess Santorum actually started to believe that all those votes were actually FOR him, rather than against Romney and Gingrich.

And then there were none. I’m not even voting in the primaries. Hell with it.

See ya in November. Romney 2012 to get rid of Obama. Somebody Else 2016 to get rid of Romney.

SuperCool on March 23, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Santorum should be thrown out of the Republican Party.

claudius on March 23, 2012 at 1:44 AM

There is nothing wrong with attempting to get the votes of democrats weary of the Socialist, but perhaps Santorum thinks a choice between 2 socialists is no choice at all, or that selecting the socialist in RINO clothing would be the worst of both worlds.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:28 AM

I’ll let Ann Coulter do the speaking… The start of her column begins below the URL.

townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2012/03/21/send_lizzie_borden_to_washington/page/full/

Any Republican governor of a blue state who manages to balance the budget without raising taxes should be a nominee for Mount Rushmore, to say nothing of president.
Mitt Romney was governor of a state so blue, it’s North Korea with more Irish people, and he balanced the budget without raising taxes.

Even Ronald Reagan raised taxes as governor of California, imposing a $1 billion tax increase his first year in office. It was the largest tax hike by a governor in the nation’s history, raising income, corporate, sales and inheritance taxes. Five years later, Reagan raised taxes again by another $1.5 billion.

To be fair, unlike liberals, he also provided tax rebates that, over his tenure in office, totaled $5.7 billion, including $4 billion in property tax rebates.

But even Reagan didn’t stop the growth of state government: While he was governor of California, the budget increased from $4.6 billion to $10.2 billion.

Republicans are able to contextualize Reagan’s record -– it was California! — but seem unable to contextualize Mitt Romney’s record, even though he had to govern a state far more liberal than California was half a century ago.

When Reagan was governor, the California Assembly was majority Democrat, but the Senate was evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.

Gov. Romney had to contend with a 200-person state Legislature that included only 29 Republicans.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 1:45 AM

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:38 AM

So Sarah and Newt are two politicians that don’t lie? Now I think you are just trolling me.

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. My statement of ‘selecting the socialist in RINO clothing would be the worst of both worlds’ happens to be my thought out, well researched belief.

IMHO, it is no exaggeration that putting the architect of 0bamacare in as the HEAD of the Republican Party would destroy the GOP for decades, especially since it would prove the liberal talking point that there is no difference between the two parties, and if you don’t think RonMe is a socialist then perhaps you will explain his statement of, “Obama is not a Socialist, he’s just in over his head”.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Ann Coulter was ahead of the curve and a realist

Groucho Marx Levin was so conveniently silent today about Woody’s gaffe…..his credibility was compromised

Groucho trashed Glenn Beck for making almost same remarks but it was between McCain and Obummer

the hypocrisy is alive and well with Groucho…no wonder his book Ameritopia flamed out

Michael Savage has the last laugh….he told his listeners “Sanitorium” was unfit for the presidency

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Pawlenty was a governor and Perry is governor of Texas BUT you idiots dumped on Pawlenty because of he lacked charisma and Perry for his immigration/tuition for illegal stance

blame yourselves, you jerks

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Wait, Pawlenty deciding to throw in the towel before a single primary ballot was cast or caucus held is somehow ANYBODY BUT Tiny Tim’s fault?

Wasn’t lack of ‘charisma’ that knocked Tiny Tim outta the race, it was lack of a damn spine.

And Perry didn’t simply shoot himself in the foot when he called the base ‘heartless’, Scooter, he blew his own damn head off. Hang the man’s failings on him, not on everybody else.

Word of advice, quit sniffing glue. The damage is irreversible and, apparently, already quite severe…

SuperCool on March 23, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Wait, Pawlenty deciding to throw in the towel before a single primary ballot was cast or caucus held is somehow ANYBODY BUT Tiny Tim’s fault?

Wasn’t lack of ‘charisma’ that knocked Tiny Tim outta the race, it was lack of a damn spine.

And Perry didn’t simply shoot himself in the foot when he called the base ‘heartless’, Scooter, he blew his own damn head off. Hang the man’s failings on him, not on everybody else.

Word of advice, quit sniffing glue. The damage is irreversible and, apparently, already quite severe…

I don’t sniff glue…I sniff cocaine like Whitney Houston…I’ll be all right tonight….I will be energized with a Romney nomination

go back to the rock you crawled under, jerk

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Now I think you are just trolling me.

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Why is it that people who cannot defend their positions always resort to name calling? Trolling is creating posts filled with inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages, not posting facts, links supporting said facts, or giving an honest opinion.

For the most part, Newt has been an honest politician and Sarah doubly so. The only thing people can point to about Newt is his poor choices of past wives, and to attack Sarah people have to resort to repeating the lies put out there by liberals and the GOP insiders that hate conservatives. In other words, trolling them is the favorite pastime of people that are too lazy to do the research.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 AM

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Actually I wasn’t calling you a name. Trolling is an activity, not a name. If you honestly think that they as politicians don’t lie, then I don’t know what to say. I guess I don’t have that strong of hero worship that some do.

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Why is it that people who cannot defend their positions always resort to name calling? Trolling is creating posts filled with inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages, not posting facts, links supporting said facts, or giving an honest opinion.

For the most part, Newt has been an honest politician and Sarah doubly so. The only thing people can point to about Newt is his poor choices of past wives, and to attack Sarah people have to resort to repeating the lies put out there by liberals and the GOP insiders that hate conservatives. In other words, trolling them is the favorite pastime of people that are too lazy to do the research.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 AM

poor baby bwhaaa!!!! can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen you jerk

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Rick has lost his way. He’s so caught up with his frustrated ambition that he can’t think straight. Like Gingrich, back after Iowa, he’s so incensed about being outspent and out-staffed and organized, that he can’t help viewing Romney as an unworthy opponent.

Santorum and Gingrich are parallel stories with some others who’ve had to drop out, Herman Cain and Rick Perry. Romney spent 6 years building a national organization and a fundraising network and war chest. None of the others did that kind of groundwork, jumping in a few months ahead as though on a whim. The only ones I could see trying to do it professionally were Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann, but it the end they just didn’t have the strength to last.

Meanwhile, Gingrich was assuring reporters on the base of his surge in the polls that he would be the nominee with the certainty of a fool, and when the surge disappeared under the barrage of tough ads, he lost his marbles, and attacked Romney for his wealth and capitalism. But he still can’t accept the blame for his own bungled campaign, sustained by huge infusions from Mr. Adelson.

Santorum had the best shot, a sunny, clean-scrubbed presence and a strict Catholic hewing to all the same key positions as Evangelicals, so that nobody questioned his actual record in Congress, except Romney. Dirty pool, right Rick? Now he’s making unforced errors himself, enraged that he’s come so close, but not quite where he wants to be. He needs to take a long vacation.

flataffect on March 23, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I can somewhat understand Rick’s frustration, after all, God told him to run. Who knew all those ignorant, sinful voters would get in the way? If the big man upstairs tells you to do something, you do it by golly. So until a voice of thunder says “take a seat, chump” why would Rick get out?

Could this be a prelude to a third-party run? Perhaps with the Santorum/Gingrich not-Romney ticket for which we’ve all be waiting? Rumor has it Obama is looking to dump Biden…now there’s a winning ticket. Obama/Santorum: the true Messianic ticket!

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 2:07 AM

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Ann has been accused many times of playing with the facts, and that is true in this case.

RonMe raised taxes when governor there via redacting corporate tax loopholes, and holding a RonMe pity party for the man that created the foundation of 0bamacare just doesn’t hold much water.

I wonder why Ann couldn’t expouse more of RonMe’s virtues. Maybe there aren’t any.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Well Goodnight one and all. Have a great Friday and remember, ABO all the way!

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Gov. Romney had to contend with a 200-person state Legislature that included only 29 Republicans.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Exactly. Mitt was stinking rich and could move anywhere in the nation and run as a Conservative Republican. Did he? No. He chose Mass. No actual conservative Republican could have won in Mass. But Mitt did because he ran to the left not right of his Democrat twice. Mitt was too liberal to run as a Democrat so he ran as a Mass Republican which is actually to the left of Democrats mostly (think Obama).

If Mitt were actually conservative he would have moved into one of his other homes and run as conservative or bought a home in any state. He did not do that because he was very liberal more liberal than almost any Democrat. Most likely a very strong Marxist.

Then Romney decided he wanted to be President but how to do it. Well the Republican Party is well known as the Stupid Party as Republicans are easily fooled into voting for Democrats that call themselves Republicans. They will even nominate you for President if you pretend to be conservative.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Everything you said there is a canard Danno.

Romney wasn’t the architect of “Romneycare”. Let me ask you a question…

Who writes the legislation in our state and federal governments?

The legislative branch of the government… Romney didn’t write the legislation, that’s the job of the Massachusetts legislature. Let me ask you another question…

How many vetoes did Romney wield over the 4 years of his Governorship?

800, 700+ of which were overturned by the Massachusetts legislature. How many vetoes did Romney wield against the Massachusetts Healthcare Bill?

Eight, attempting to eliminate 8 whole sections of the bill such that a lot of the similarities that you see to Obamacare wouldn’t be enacted by the state. The legislature overrode them all.

What does this tell you?

To me, it tells me that no matter what he did, whether it was to veto the entire bill, or use the line item veto like he did, the legislature of the state of Massachusetts (something like 85% Democratically controlled at the time) was GOING to enact the healthcare bill, no matter what.

Romney saw the writing on the wall, and just like Reagan did with the abortion bill in California when he was Governor there, he tried to work with what he had. California was going to enact the bill, Reagan saw that he didn’t have the votes to do what he wanted to do so he compromised.

Romney worked with the Heritage Foundation to try to instill as many conservative values, when it comes to healthcare, that could possibly be put into the bill. He was successful in some respects and not so successful in others, but the Massachusetts state legislature was GOING to enact that bill no matter what he decided to do.

It’s just specious to claim that Romney is a complete RINO. Sure, he’s not the most conservative candidate that could have run, but he’s a hell of a lot better than any of the ones still standing.

At least he’s not saying that voting for one of his opponents in the worse than voting for Obama (essentially what he said and Newt’s tweet confirms that).

Stick a fork in him, Sweater Vest Santorum is done.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

I mean Thursday! :|

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Thank you for proving the point I made earlier.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Thank you for proving the point I made earlier.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:10 AM

you’re unwelcome…go back to your mom’s basement and play with yourself watching porn

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM

you’re unwelcome…go back to your mom’s basement and play with yourself watching porn

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM

csdeven has a sockpuppet?

jaime on March 23, 2012 at 2:17 AM

I don’t sniff glue…I sniff cocaine like Whitney Houston…I’ll be all right tonight….I will be energized with a Romney nomination

go back to the rock you crawled under, jerk

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Okay, see, talking about your coke habit and calling me a jerk doesn’t make your points any more valid, Scooter.

Perhaps you should reexamine your original hypothesis and address the two gaping holes I pointed out in it, rather than spazzing out like a teenaged rebel without a clue, ‘kay?

SuperCool on March 23, 2012 at 2:19 AM

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Lemme guess. You are ANOTHER liberal RonMe supporter, right?

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:22 AM

csdeven has a sockpuppet?

jaime on March 23, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Didn’t I read somewhere that csdevin IS a sock puppet?

I’m just sayin! ;o)

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:24 AM

My statement of ‘selecting the socialist in RINO clothing would be the worst of both worlds’ happens to be my thought out, well researched belief.

well-researched, eh? Maybe I’ve missed something. Can you show me anywhere where Governor Romney has advocated a social order where capital and property redistribution are government-ordered?

And what does RINO clothing look like? Is that like being a double-agent?

if you don’t think RonMe is a socialist then perhaps you will explain his statement of, “Obama is not a Socialist, he’s just in over his head”.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Apparently you skipped a step in your extensive research. It’s ‘Romney’.

So if someone doesn’t think someone is a socialist then they are a socialist?

I’m so confused.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

What did Romney do.

He gave Planed Parenthood huge donations of his own money and they endorsed him for Governor.

He gave money to LGBT and they endorsed him.

He promised both organizations that he would get far more for them than the Democrat he was running against ever would and boy did he deliver.

He had an absolute love fest with all those democrats in the House and Senate. They got everything they wanted and more. No one thought Romney Care could ever get into law Teddy Kennedy had been trying for forty years with no success but Romney got it done. Romney heaped great praise on Teddy Kennedy for helping him get it done. He never complained about it at all and still loves what it has become.

He never once vetoed a bill that his democratic friends could not easily override. They did all they could to help Romney fool the stupid Republicans. Every thing except let anything conservative ever become law. They did not have the votes to override the veto forcing Catholics out of Adoption so Mitt signed it into law for example but there are many more examples.

Mitt now lies that he did not raise taxes but lowered them. This is only true if you only count as taxes bills where taxes were lowered not ones where they were raised. You can also not count bills that raised fees. For sure you can not count bills that overrode tax cuts the people tried to get through elections. Fact is he raised spending significantly as Governor paid for with new taxes, fees and federal money he was especially good at getting earmarks for Mass.

There is not a single conservative thing Mitt did as Governor except for calling himself conservative.

Mitt is so not liberal he does not even know how conservatives think. Severely Conservative is a term so stupid actual conservatives immediately understand this has to be a very liberal Democrat pretending to be conservative to use it.

What Mitt did in Mass makes me vomit just seeing how evil a man can be and call himself a Mormon. Mitt makes a mockery of all Mormons. Mormons are not compulsive liars like Mitt is.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:29 AM

I wish to share this with the Conservatives here on Hot Air, and as it applies to RonMe I don’t believe it is off topic:

Romneycare Becomes Obamacare, Then Coultercare

FTA:
Ann Coulter has now written an unqualified defense of Romneycare. What she doesn’t appear to realize is how useful her column will be to defenders of Obamacare.

My thanks to SauerKraut537 as it was due to his[?] posts that I found the article.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:29 AM

Not interested in reading a forgettable liberal Dem columnist with no backbone.

Myron Falwell on March 22, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Yeah, don’t argue any of the points she brought up, engage in an ad hominem attack. Ann Coulter is a liberal Dem columnist? Nonsense.

hepcat on March 23, 2012 at 2:31 AM

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM

Do the research on RonMe’s history and you will see that the only thing he really cares about is himself and that it is his hatred of his father that fuels many of his actions today.

As for his advocating a social order where capital and property redistribution are government-ordered please do Google ‘Romneycare’.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:34 AM

So if someone doesn’t think someone is a socialist then they are a socialist?

I’m so confused.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM

If some one does not understand Obama is a Socialist or Marxist then yes it makes them a Socialist or Marxist. Because only one of those would say such a stupid thing unless they were themselves politically illiterate.

In Romneys case he is a Marxist not a Socialist just like Obama.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Hold your pity party for RonMe if you must, but why lie about the man’s past actions?

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:19 AM

I’m not the one holding a pity party now am I? You’re the one pouting about not getting your candidate chosen, whoever that is.

Look Danno, I’m not lying about anything, them’s the facts.

As I said, Romney and the legislature went through a long process of trying to shape the legislation, I don’t discount that this happened… But that doesn’t mean he was “happy” to do it, and he’s stated that he didn’t think it was a good idea but that the constitution allowed for it to be done on a state by state basis. But as I said before, he saw the writing on the wall so he tried to shape it into something that would be less costly for the people of the state of Massachusetts over the long haul.

They’re seeing how wrong they were now (the people of the state of Massachusetts and their representatives).

Pointing out that Gruber helped is just your way of “tying” “Romneycare” and “Obamacare” up into a nice little narrative for you to wield against Romney supporters. Don’t think myself and others don’t see through your charade.

I know he’s a moderate, and that kind of makes me happy. I’m sick of the far right (a place I used to be politically) and the far left taking over the reigns of our two party system. This country did so much better as a nation when the black and white thinkers of the far left and right were marginalized and skirted behind the curtain.

The actions of these two wings of our political sphere have done enough damage to this country as it is. It’s like having an argument with your wife or husband over the temperature in the house, both of them see-sawing the thermostat to hot, then cold, then hot, then cold.

Businesses don’t thrive in environments where the rules keep changing back and forth like they have been over the last few decades as Democrats take control and Republicans try to undo the damage. Each swing brings progressively more screwed up economic policies and legislation as one party tries to undo the “damage” that the other did while in power.

We certainly need a swing back to the middle, and I see Romney as just the guy to get us there. Most everything that Romney has taken on as a project in his life has turned to gold.

Romney 2012!

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:37 AM

it is his hatred of his father that fuels many of his actions today.

As for his advocating a social order where capital and property redistribution are government-ordered please do Google ‘Romneycare’.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:34 AM

I am confused. Buzzfeed has a video of Romney praising his father. Saying he was just like him.

I detest Romney but I will say his family seems very close to each other and Romney was very close to his father according to everything I ever read. I detest all Marxist (evil people serving Satan) but pray they will repent and come to GOD.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:39 AM

But that doesn’t mean he was “happy” to do it, and he’s stated that he didn’t think it was a good idea but that the constitution allowed for it to be done on a state by state basis.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Google Romney and read his statements when he got this into law. He was absolutely ecstatic. His best day on Earth. His speech was totally positive.

I could not find a single article where Romney fought for conservative principals. Many when he fought for more liberal ones though. The Democrats were too conservative for Mitt. He wanted it more liberal never less. Thus there were fights and vetoes but many of those vetoes led to more liberal laws. Like Adoption. First law got Catholics out of it but got no Federal money vetoed. Second law got Federal money to pay for getting Catholics out of Adoption. Far more liberal and Mitt signed it into law. Same case almost every time. Mitt fought long and hard to make Mass an even more liberal State and fought tooth and nail to keep Gay Marriage against 70% of the citizens in Mass. Mitt got his great friend that was President of the Senate to gavel close the constitutional convention called to get rid of Gay Marriage before the vote could take place. Totally unconstitutional just like many of the things Obama does.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:49 AM

budfox on March 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

They’re doing the GOP no favors by empowering the social cons during an election that really doesn’t play to their strengths. This is not a social issues election.

This is the economy election. Santorum is frankly just an increasingly embarrassing figure and fanning the flames of division helps the democrats more then the GOP. But again, if the social cons demonstrate themselves to be incapable of allying with anyone then those alliances will end.

GOP existed long before we made ties in the deep south. We made those ties out of necessity. Just a political fact. But I don’t think we need them any more if they’re going to be difficult. We have options we didn’t have then. It will be extremely painful but cathartic as well. We’d lose a lot of baggage that came along with the deep south that has been falsely associated with the GOP in general. Hell, we are the party of Lincoln and even that isn’t enough to wash the stink off when they start running around with confederate flags.

It’s just very painful carrying water for these yahoos sometimes. I think even most social cons have to sympathize with the situation.
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ddrintn on March 22, 2012 at 7:04 PM
So wait, I’m a robot and not given the benefit of being thought of as human because I’m embarrassed by Santorum’s antics?

As to hating that the republicans rely so heavily on the deep southern votes? Yes. It’s problematic. We are the party of the Union, sport. The party of Lincoln. Remember that when you go running around with your confederate flag.

Republicans built monuments to men that burned the south to the ground. I don’t say that to open old wounds but to put things into perspective. It’s very painful for us to deal with the deep south sometimes. The GOP didn’t start in the south. It made allies there out of political expedience. If you make it clear you are an unreliable ally then we’ll make other arrangements.

Point blank.

As to thinking a squishy moderate would be better. No. We do however need leaders that can string two words together without getting confused unlike most of the lackwits the social cons keep supporting.

I’d like intelligent leaders that can do little things like SPEAK CLEARLY and have some political savvy. For example, both Santorum and Perry brought social issues into the debate when it served no political purpose. It doesn’t matter what you believe, that was tactically stupid. This is the major leagues. You can’t get away with that nonsense and get elected.

Pick a social con that isn’t stupid and we’ll be happier about it. Santorum has gone from major gaff to major gaff. The only people forgiving him for that are the hard core social cons that will forgive him anything. The democrats are salivating at going against Santorum. In the general election he’d be chum in the water.

If you can’t see that then you’re only proving my point.

As to Nixon switching the south to the GOP. That’s true. We were desperate. The socialists convinced the factory workers that everything would be better if they got aggressive labor policies on the books. How did that work out for them? The north is rotting under their rule. And since the GOP took over in the south it’s slowly moving from a retrograde backwater to a world class industrial center.

Don’t ruin it. At least let us build the industry up before you betray us too.

Karmashock on March 23, 2012 at 2:49 AM

Savage 3rd most listened talk show nationally behind Rush Bimbo and Sean Wallbanger….their friend Groucho Marx Levin is fifth

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Well it was Levin that crushed Savage in the ratings in San Fran and why they droppped Savage.

It sounds like you have all of Savage’s insults of the more popular talk show hosts memorized but he isn’t a smart guy.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 2:51 AM

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:49 AM

hyperbole and conjecture.

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:51 AM

nparga23 on March 23, 2012 at 2:52 AM

@Steveangell

Romney’s stance on Healthcare

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 2:55 AM

“Well it was Levin that crushed Savage in the ratings in San Fran and why they droppped Savage.”

I believe the station that used to carry Savage, AM1220 changed format from conservative talk radio to business talk.

I used to listen to Medved, Prager, and Hewitt on that station but they aren’t around anymore. KSFO doesn’t even carry Rush anymore, I listen to the Fresno station to hear Rush if I am in the car in the morning.

crosspatch on March 23, 2012 at 3:01 AM

Man there are a lot of nutty people on here. Now I know why I rarely spend any time on these boards.

I truly believe there is a psychological component with competitive contests such as this that results in self-delusion and self-deceit when your ‘team’ is down. It’s human nature to want to blame the refs, the field conditions, cheerleaders, hot dog vendors, etc. when your team loses. I recall one time while in high school when I was at a football game where my school was in the playoffs. We lost. I was so agitated at the opposing school I could barely contain my anger. I began to concoct stories in my head as to how the students from that school were evil. It was an enlightening moment for me. Politics to many is just another sport, especially to those of us junkies who need our hourly ‘fix’. There is no other explanation for the self-destruction of candidates such as Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum when things don’t go their way. They say love is blind. Well, losing can make you go blind. When Team Gingrich loses it makes us feel better to know that Romney is the devil incarnate.

You can never know who on a comment board such as this, is being sincere and who is just trying to kick the hornet’s nest. But it is hard to imagine that anyone who is sincerely interested in voting Obama out of office, divested of childish emotion, can’t not support the Republican ticket. This has been a long, hard-fought contest. There’ve been little victories, lots of disappointments. But we’re here now. Romney will be the GOP candidate. If someone is truly unable to see a difference between another four years with Obama and four years with Romney, they’ve lost touch with reality. If someone is not able to see that Romney/Gingrich/Santorum are 90% in sync on the issues, they’re beyond reasoning with.

Take a breath.

Relax.

Imagine Obama picking one Supreme Court justice…

…then two…

…Obamacare becoming permanent…

…your children and children’s children being given the bill.

With Obama in office, IT WILL HAPPEN!!! Even if you think Romney would be bad, it could hardly get worse than what we currently have.

So chill my friends.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:39 AM

I’m sorry but it is getting late and I’m tired or I would dig out the link to the story I read where it discusses RonMe’s giving away ALL of his fathers wealth and his other actions that show his distain for his dad.

RonMe has videos out there of him both praising 0bamacare and dissing it. Which are we to believe? IMHO, Therin lays the main problem with RonMe. He just isn’t at all trustworthy.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 3:09 AM

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM

Here, here tyrex! Well said!

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 3:10 AM

He just isn’t at all trustworthy.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Keep telling yourself that and it becomes your truth. Who was it who said, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

SauerKraut537 on March 23, 2012 at 3:12 AM

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Kinda important to understand the difference between propaganda and research.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:14 AM

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Considering the MULTITUDE of links you have shared so far it is easy to see you are a complete … expert on the subject. /s

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 3:22 AM

Let the pity party begin!

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Indeed. That is the most sensible thing you’ve said all night.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:26 AM

Considering the MULTITUDE of links you have shared so far it is easy to see you are a complete … expert on the subject. /s

Gotcha! This is a link contest. You won me over with your brilliance and logic. Obama 2012. Check is in the mail.

tyrex on March 23, 2012 at 3:29 AM

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 3:19 AM

*facepalm*

Perhaps you should take a closer look into what Romney did, why and how.

alchemist19 on March 23, 2012 at 3:42 AM

More, related comments over here:
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/03/23/gingrich-to-santorum-ill-take-romney-over-obama-any-day/

No way can I read through all these many (sixteen) previous pages of comments here on this post, but…

…it is utterly irresponsible for Santorum to have said what he’s said. Whatever good faith I was extending to him before, I now rescind. The very idea that he’d even begin to support a vote for Obama is beyond reason. Utterly beyond reason.

Lourdes on March 23, 2012 at 4:28 AM

It’s no secret Santorum supporters want Obama in. Not all, but most.

rubberneck on March 23, 2012 at 4:34 AM

Ech a Sketch 2012

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 23, 2012 at 4:41 AM

Say goodnight, Rick. Oh, and your calendar for 2016 just became wide open, too. Maybe stuff like this is why Pennsylvanians booted you.

tpitman on March 23, 2012 at 5:02 AM

Santorum: Maybe America’s better off with Obama than taking a risk on an “Etch-a-Sketch” candidate

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddd CUT!

That’s a wrap, people. Good job! Wrap-party at Tina’s on Saturday, and we’ll see everyone on Romney’s set first thing next week. Don’t forget to look through your lockers before you leave tonight! Remember, it’s not our building after tonight, so if you leave anything, you lose it.

Somebody poke AP.

Axe on March 23, 2012 at 5:09 AM

There’s stupid and then there’s Santorum. If anyone wondered why Pennsylvanians threw Santorum out on his a$$ it was because of stupid gaffes like this.His support of Snarlin Sphincter was enough to drive me away from him forever.

Santorum supporters are very entertaining to watch here on HA , however.This should serve as a lesson to those of you Santorumites to not support someone just because you believe he is someone who is the opposite of who you don’t like.

Thanks for the memories or something……lol

DevilsPrinciple on March 23, 2012 at 5:55 AM

Maybe America’s better off with Obama…

As a Pennsylvanian, I’ve been a Santorum fan for a long time. But no more. Not after this. He really jumped the shark on this one. Wrong on so many levels, it’s a jaw-dropper.

Hey Rick, get lost.

petefrt on March 23, 2012 at 5:56 AM

It’s no secret Santorum supporters want Obama in. Not all, but most.

rubberneck on March 23, 2012 at 4:34 AM

The rubber is a bit higher than your neck. The only thing clear here is that Santorum sees little practical difference between Obama and Slobama. Neither do I. But if you see conservatives recoiling at the thought of voting for Mittens and think they would then pull the lever for Turdboy, think again…this time with your real brain.

swinia sutki on March 23, 2012 at 5:58 AM

Yeah, don’t argue any of the points she brought up, engage in an ad hominem attack. Ann Coulter is a liberal Dem columnist? Nonsense.

hepcat on March 23, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Calling Coulter a columnist is like calling Bill Maher a serious human being.

DevilsPrinciple on March 23, 2012 at 6:01 AM

Aw, gee, Romney wins. Who didn’t see that coming?

Well, you Romney haters have a decision to make. You can either hold to your narratives about Romney and desert him and help reelect Obama, or you can step up and support him as our nominee and help oust Obama.

It’s one or the other, there is no alternative. Obama, or Romney?

Up to you.

Adjoran on March 23, 2012 at 6:08 AM

I wonder how many of the Santorum supporters on the internet at this point are democrats trying to gin up support for a lost cause?

Think of it like those big corporations that hire people to post fake ads on line. I know on some of the social networking sites they’re active. I just wonder if they’re active here.

They very well could not be and this could all be a paranoid delusion of my own. I’d honestly prefer they were doing it rather then having to face these division in our own coalition.

Santorum is done. It’s romney or obama. Choose.

Karmashock on March 23, 2012 at 6:25 AM

‎”I don’t care who our candidate is and I haven’t since the beginning of this. I haven’t! Ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate! …When I walk through CPAC or a I travel the United States to meet people in the Tea Party who care – black, white, gay, and straight – anyone that’s willing to stand next to me to fight the Progressive left, I will be in that bunker. And if you’re not in that bunker because you’re not satisfied with [a certain] candidate, more than shame on you! You’re on the other side!” –Andrew Breitbart

Pcoop on March 23, 2012 at 6:45 AM

Thanks Mr. Santorum. You have pretty much sealed the deal to end the primary sooner rather than later. And any fantasies about brokered or contested conventions by the HA 35 have been torn asunder.

Bradky on March 23, 2012 at 6:54 AM

The rubber is a bit higher than your neck. The only thing clear here is that Santorum sees little practical difference between Obama and Slobama. Neither do I.

swinia sutki on March 23, 2012 at 5:58 AM

On THIS issue, in THIS campaign it is a matter of convenience for Ricky RINO. Santorum supported Snarlin’ Sphincter a notorious RINO. There’s no inconsistency in this message from Rick the RINO. He wants you to think he’s different than Romney.

He’s not.

Tell us, why would Santorum not say HIS name in place of Obama’s as the difference because he’s the”only conservative” alternative ? Because he’s truly not, except when it comes to “his” religion and that’s not quite enough to make one a conservative.

We have one dumb a$$ in office, we don’t need a second one back~to~back.

DevilsPrinciple on March 23, 2012 at 6:55 AM

Rick, Ron, Newt, get out of the race and help Mitt beat this moron.

MJZZZ on March 23, 2012 at 6:56 AM

Calling Coulter a columnist is like calling Bill Maher a serious human being.

DevilsPrinciple on March 23, 2012 at 6:01 AM

I did a search for Devilsprinciple under syndicated columnists and didn’t see your name…..

Bradky on March 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM

I just wonder if they’re active here.
Karmashock on March 23, 2012 at 6:25 AM

No paranoid delusion to worry about. This place is a melting pot of all things political. In between the advocates, the trolls, the concern trolls, the reverse concern trolls and the mobies, you’ll find the honest commenter. There’s a lot to be skeptical about.

lynncgb on March 23, 2012 at 7:02 AM

I wonder how many of the Santorum supporters on the internet at this point are democrats trying to gin up support for a lost cause?

Karmashock on March 23, 2012 at 6:25 AM

We have a winner! Not all Santorum supporters are really Democrats of course but enough are out there to lure people into thinking there’s still a chance for their guy. Don’t be useful idiots for the Democrat. At worse there’s 2016 to think about. At best, 2020.

rhombus on March 23, 2012 at 7:05 AM

I find it amazing that AP is just now noticing how bitter and shrill Santorum is….I was completely open minded to all the candidates when the debates began. One of my first impressions was that of Ricky being a cry baby about not getting enough questions….waaaahhhhh…..that’s not fair….waaaaahhhh

essequam on March 23, 2012 at 7:08 AM

I hope this is the last I have to hear from that pompous, self-righteous, condescending jerk. He will end up supporting the side he has the most to gain from. Self serving and obviously no core convictions.

bopbottle on March 23, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Take a hike Rick, your childish behavior is becoming destructive.

rplat on March 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM

A very, very disappointing breakdown.

ray on March 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM

My, my, my, my my, I think Rick Santorum could have said “Good Morning” and the Romney campaign aka republican establishment would have jumped all over him also. The knives are definitely out for him, but Rick didn’t say anything we’re not all thinking. Sketchy is not reliable or as electable as we’re being led to believe, and do we want another 4 years of democrat policies or, as it looks with Massachusetts, Maine, and Virginia Senate flips and up-coming democrat majorities, 4 years of democrat policies with a republican stamp on them? Rmoney is weak and not to be trusted and same goes with the SCOTUS and the kind of justices he’d cave on and nominate under pressure. We’re all scared and extremely uncomfortable with him, and don’t want to guarantee an Obama victory with a Rmoney nomination. Sounds clear and to the point to me.

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM

I’m surprised but not at all disappointed to see the obsessed but repressed sweatervest go down in flames. He’s always been cranked just a little too tight.

ElectricPhase on March 23, 2012 at 7:49 AM

I wonder how many of the Santorum supporters on the internet at this point are democrats trying to gin up support for a lost cause?

Think of it like those big corporations that hire people to post fake ads on line. I know on some of the social networking sites they’re active. I just wonder if they’re active here.

Santorum is done. It’s romney or obama.

Karmashock on March 23, 2012 at 6:25 AM

I’ve suspected the same thing for a while now. This site has a bunch of commenters shrieking about how they allegedly don’t want to vote for the Republican nominee and how they welcome an Obama victory. These people will bash Romney in embarrassing, irrational ways and then cheer on Santorum, despite the fact that Santorum would clearly be a weaker candidate against Obama and despite the fact that Romney all but has this thing locked up.

I can’t imagine ever saying some of the things these people have said. Although I support a Republican candidate other than Santorum, I would happily vote for any of the Republicans over Obama. It’s a no-brainer.

It’s no surprise at all that liberal Democrats are among the loudest cheerleaders for Santorum, since they know that Santorum as the nominee would guarantee an Obama landslide reection win.

VIDEO: Liberal Democrats for Rick Santorum

We all know that…
A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 23, 2012 at 7:52 AM

2016?! “Raised his profile significantly for 2016″? Are you serious? After this, I don’t want to look at this man’s face again. I’m not thrilled with Mitt, but this is way over the line. He needs to pack up his sweater vests and Etch-a-Sketch, and head back to PA–pronto!

SaintV on March 23, 2012 at 7:53 AM

a little bird just told me there are way more democrats voting in the primaries for mitt.

renalin on March 23, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. My statement of ‘selecting the socialist in RINO clothing would be the worst of both worlds’ happens to be my thought out, well researched belief.

IMHO, it is no exaggeration that putting the architect of 0bamacare in as the HEAD of the Republican Party would destroy the GOP for decades, especially since it would prove the liberal talking point that there is no difference between the two parties, and if you don’t think RonMe is a socialist then perhaps you will explain his statement of, “Obama is not a Socialist, he’s just in over his head”.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM

^^^This.

I think Santorum is just playing to the conservative base of the republican party.

Hard to believe that the architect of RomneyCare/ObamaCare even stands a chance to be the standard bearer of the Republican brand.

But, there it is. The end of the Conservative base of the Republican Party; therefore, the end of the Republican Party. RIP.

Of course, Rick blew it big time again with another major gaffe.

Romney would be better than Obama, much as McCain would have been better. Either one would just slow the total demise of the US down a little, but the big govt/big money establishment would still run amok.

Doesn’t matter. Romney will lose to Obama because their actual records and policies are too similar.

Time is ripe for true conservatives/tea party patriots to organize a third party.

IndeCon on March 23, 2012 at 7:55 AM

I’m actually amazed he’s making this argument given the hard feelings it’ll engender among Republicans who’ll soon be rallying around Romney in an “anybody but Obama” fervor.

Wow, really? How come we never see this sentiment expressed when Tea Party candidates were getting stabbed in the back by Establishment/Ruling Class/RINO’s like Karl Rove, huh?!

Hard feelings! Suck it up candypants!

Plus, you are making the same idiotic assumption that Willard RomneyCare is making – that “Any but Obama” in and of itself is a winner. People with half a brain need a REASON to vote for someone to be motivated, not just a reason to beat the other guy!

Why would I vote for Romney if the Establishment is successful in awarding his the nomination?

*For RomneyCare?
*For Soft on Illegals?
*For less than real conservative SCOTUS nominations?
*For a little less Big Govt?
*For a little less regulation?

We have nothing but flawed candidates left because thats what the Establishment wants. The people beating up Santorum over his comments all should look in the mirror.

Here’s to hoping a brokered convention can lock out the Ruling Class jerks and save us from a fate having to choose between Obama and Obama-Lite in November!

; )

insidiator on March 23, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Now that this cycle is over except for the election of Senators and Representatives to contest President re-elect Hussein (55/45) can we move on to the 2016 presidential campaign?

Annar on March 23, 2012 at 8:00 AM

a little bird just told me there are way more democrats voting in the primaries for mitt.

renalin on March 23, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Are we surprised? It definitely happened in N. Hampshire as it did with McCain and here we are again. History repeating itself and the republican party heading for the edge of the cliff unless Louisiana continues our only path to salvation :-) Between Rick and Sketchy, who would the democrats really be afraid of dealing with…hmmmm?

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 8:00 AM

IndeCon on March 23, 2012 at 7:55 AM

yep, if we fly under the romneybama banner, then conservatism is dead. close shop. go gault.

time to go rogue.

renalin on March 23, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Exactly. Mitt was stinking rich and could move anywhere in the nation and run as a Conservative Republican. Did he? No. He chose Mass. Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 2:09 AM

You are criticizing Romney for trying to move the most liberal state in the nation to the right. No criticism of Romney is too absurd for you ABRs.

If he had run in UT you would be saying: “well of course he has a conservative record. He cynically decided to govern Utah where he couldn’t help but have a conservative record”.

Basilsbest on March 23, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Rick’s argument holds some water. A few months from now, Barry will be saying, “There’s no difference between me and Mitt, and I’m already here, so just vote for me.”

Mr. Grump on March 23, 2012 at 8:04 AM

morning joe lovin’ this…

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on March 23, 2012 at 8:05 AM

This pissed me off. Good-bye Rick.

Fish on March 23, 2012 at 8:09 AM

And Perry didn’t simply shoot himself in the foot when he called the base ‘heartless’, Scooter, he blew his own damn head off. Hang the man’s failings on him, not on everybody else.

SuperCool on March 23, 2012 at 1:55 AM

You need some serious perspective. You think that one ill-conceived “heartless” comment (which he quickly apologized for) is worse than Santorum’s pro-union & anti-right to work votes, his defense of pork, and his disdain for Goldwater Republicans and the small “L” libertarian wing of the party who want smaller government that does less?

A lot of the people who refused to forgive Perry for that one line are now spinning and twisting themselves into pretzels to defend this big-government socon bonehead in a sweater vest for far worse. And the person you were responding to is right. It’s the base’s own effing fault their stuck with Romney with only a room temperature IQ puritan in a sweater vest and a corrupt has-been to oppose him.

As far as I’m concerned, you’re getting what you deserve.
And that holds even if Obama wins re-election, because lots of people in the GOP base are goddamned morons.

DRayRaven on March 23, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Now that this cycle is over except for the election of Senators and Representatives to contest President re-elect Hussein (55/45) can we move on to the 2016 presidential campaign?

Annar on March 23, 2012 at 8:00 AM

From your mouth to God’s ear. Except that the republican establishment is even screwing that up. It’s beginning to look like we may lose the Massachusetts senate seat because that idiot Scott Brown has to go make snarky comments about conservatives, Olympia Snowe will probably just hand her seat over to a democrat anyway, and in Virginia the 3 stooges starting with the governor, his lt. gov, and that bozo attorney general are blowing it for George Allen. I don’t know about Alasaka this time around, but Lisa Murkowski should just change to democrat anyway. It’s like some kind of curse that we can’t break out of. No wonder the democrats are salivating at a Sketchy nomination – it’s a win/win for them with him.

mozalf on March 23, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Anyone paying attention would should have known, long ago, Santorum for the crap weasel that he is.

bloviator on March 23, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Nail, meet coffin. Looks like Santorum may be giving the Democrat’s latest Minister of Disinformation a run for her money … http://bit.ly/qVdDUt

ombdz on March 23, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Anyone paying attention would should have known, long ago, Santorum for the crap weasel that he is.

bloviator on March 23, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Agreed.

Now can we all quit pretending like the unelectable clown Rick “Porn Police” Santorum ever had a real chance at winning?

bluegill on March 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM

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