Santorum: Maybe America’s better off with Obama than taking a risk on an “Etch-a-Sketch” candidate

posted at 5:50 pm on March 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

Faced with the reality that his chances have collapsed, the Sweater Vest begins to unravel:

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

During a press avail following the event, Santorum, who carried the Etch A Sketch during his speech, argued that Romney knows he can’t win in the general election.

“All the things that allow Romney to win the primary are unavailable to him to win the general and that’s why you see these Etch A Sketch comments because he knows he can’t win,” said Santorum.

Romney issued a statement later saying he’s “disappointed to hear that Rick Santorum would rather have Barack Obama as president than a Republican.” Question for Team RS: What “risk” is there, exactly, that President Etch-a-Sketch would be worse than Obama? Even if his political instincts carry him towards the center, he knows he can’t stray too far from the base on big-ticket items like, oh, say, Supreme Court appointments. That’s a big difference, not a little difference, and a pro-life advocate as passionate as Santorum surely knows it. I’m no Romney fan, yet the only argument I can come up with in which The One is possibly maybe supposedly conceivably theoretically preferable to Romney is some sort of “only Nixon can go to China” reasoning. Only a Republican like Nixon could make nice with Mao because a Democrat would have been accused by the right of harboring secret communist sympathies. Nixon’s party ID immunized him from that; by the same token, you could argue that if an attack on Iran is inevitable it’s better that Obama gives the order than Romney because the anti-war left will roll over like puppies for him (again). You could, if you’re really daring, even argue that only a Democratic president can sign entitlement reform because partisan loyalty will help defang some of its many, many, many, many liberal opponents. I don’t buy the latter argument, though — I think it’s one of the few policy areas in which the left will be ferocious even in opposing a Democratic president, if not quite as ferocious as they’d be towards a Republican. (That’s one reason Obama hasn’t been aggressive about it despite his campaign promises about entitlements.) And as for Iran, are you willing to purchase relative liberal silence on an attack at the high price of trillions more in debt and a few new stridently liberal SCOTUS justices? I’ll pass.

I’m actually amazed he’s making this argument given the hard feelings it’ll engender among Republicans who’ll soon be rallying around Romney in an “anybody but Obama” fervor. Santorum’s sunk this time but he’s raised his profile significantly for 2016. Time to start thinking ahead strategically instead of letting bitterness run away with that yapper of his. Exit quotation from Byron York: “Asked what other plans Santorum had to call attention to the [Etch-a-Sketch] matter, [Santorum spokesman Alice] Stewart said, ‘Lots.’”


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So sayeth the candidate who is for mandates in employment, government picking winners and losers via the tax code, and an increase in government regulations in the social arena.

Are these really conservative positions?

Tater Salad on March 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Get out, Rick.

This is uncalled for.

NO ONE who would suggest Obama is acceptable over ANY of our candidates, even the creepy “Herr Doktor” is an idiot.

wildcat72 on March 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I would love it if Rick Santorum didn’t win another state. The man is an embarrassment to Republicans. It would be a wonderful message from the voters to deny the homophobic bigot Santorum the opportunity to ever again give a victory speech.

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:29 PM

I personally don’t think Santorum thinks Obama will be superior to Romney. All the candidates engage in hyperbole like this at times but we only have to get outraged by it when it is aimed at Romney.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

You are absolutely right. Santorum is just expressing what voters will be thinking in 2012. Mitt knows this is a winning argument so he feeds us all this trash. This is classic Saul Alinsky (dedicated to Lucifer) tactics. Pure evil in my book.

Santorum should clarify this and say.

Obama is pure evil in my book. Romney is using most of the same evil tactics Obama uses even attacking me rather than answer why a voter should not be thinking whether there is a real choice between Obama and Romney.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Go Cuda, Michelle, Rick, Herman, NEWT, Rick… oh screw it Obama 2012

– ballad of the ABRs

Bradky on March 22, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I don’t believe that our nominee, no matter WHO it is, will lose Congress.

That’s the problem, Karen. You think that the far right wing of the Rebublican party has enough followers to sweep in Sweater Vest and a Republican House and Senate. There aren’t enough now to give Santorum a plurality even among GOP voters–even when Dems salt the ballot box for him. Who in their right mind thinks you can get a majority in the three branches of government with 30% of the voting public? Nobody in their right mind misunderstands math that badly.

Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Righteous, Rick and Texas Rick all have a limited following from only a fraction of the voting public. They’re barely less of a joke than those who think Doc Paul has a chance–or those who think a third party run is a viable alternative. Are there really so many delusional Republicans that they can’t see the train wreck that will accompany conservative orthodoxy? I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats; but it doesn’t help to know that the minority of republicans are equally moronic.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Well I don’t know if Romney is using evil tactics, he just loose with the truth and facts in his campaign ads.

I can’t stand liars even if I understand their motivations for doing it.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

And to think people didn’t want Sarah to run. If she had, this primary would have eventually come around to her being the favored because she is conservative in her gut and all of her actions.

karenhasfreedom on March 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM

So it’s now conservative to quit in the middle of your term?

changer1701 on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Why did you all think Santorum was a serious candidate and Newt wasn’t?

Oh, right, because the Mitt supporters told you so.

So, so frustrated…

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

But those of us that want to see Obama out of office have a choice to make, back the candidate that will be our nominee or and give Obama liberalism 4 more years.

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM

FIFY.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Hilary’s supporters managed to wipe away their tears, swallow their pride and even ignore blatant misogyny and false accusations of racism in order to pull together for the Dems.

Rick Santorum needs to step down. His supporters need to admit defeat gracefully, suck it up and join the team for the big win.

The Resolute Desk on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

So it’s now conservative to quit in the middle of your term?

changer1701 on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

It’s apparently conservative to quit a campaign, so why not?

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

NO ONE who would suggest Obama is acceptable over ANY of our candidates, even the creepy “Herr Doktor” is an idiot.

wildcat72 on March 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

No one. Really.

Now think is there any Republican that thinks Obama is doing a great job.

Think real hard.

Person would have to be close to Romney to really matter.

Thinking.

Got it.

Matt Romney 41 year old Hawaii spokesman for Mitt Romney thinks Obama is doing a great job.

Guess you are wrong.

The people that love Mitt the most think Obama is doing great.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Hilary’s supporters managed to wipe away their tears, swallow their pride and even ignore blatant misogyny and false accusations of racism in order to pull together for the Dems.

The Resolute Desk on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Hillary also fought through June. Give it a rest.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM

The reality is if Romney had just thrown RomneyCare under the bus from the get go, he would have wrapped up this nomination a long time ago. All his flip flopping hasn’t seem to hurt him much so why not toss your biggest liablity under the bus as well? Just say you wer ein a liberal state and you danced for the liberals up there, gave them what they wanted even though you thought it was horrible policy. That’s how I would have played it.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Santorum is starting to wear on me big time. I like him…but I just think he’s been sooo whiney throughout all this.
And this….well now its just getting to the point where its starting to look more like its all about HIM and not the country.
It does the party no good to go after your opponent like this, just because HE’S frustrated.

Handel on March 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Bradky on March 22, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Come on mate, cozmo won’t talk to me either. I’m as pathetic as you trying to drum up some attention. We got each other. But I dont have much time. Are you a Romney supporter from last time?

smoothsailing on March 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Righteous, Rick and Texas Rick all have a limited following from only a fraction of the voting public. They’re barely less of a joke than those who think Doc Paul has a chance–or those who think a third party run is a viable alternative. Are there really so many delusional Republicans that they can’t see the train wreck that will accompany conservative orthodoxy? I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats; but it doesn’t help to know that the minority of republicans are equally moronic.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

…why, WHY, should we give a d@mn what someone says when this is so clearly the opinion they have of us? You just don’t get it.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats; but it doesn’t help to know that the minority of republicans are equally moronic.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Yep, I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats, as well… then I started coming on HotAir more often and saw the moronic rantings of the birth certificate-obsessed, palin-worshiping types, and saw that there was plenty of idiocy on this side, too, sadly.

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

So let me ask you DannoJyd, who are you planning on voting for?

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Especially this election cycle year when we’ve seen so many crazy things happen.

Elisa on March 22, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Very well said, and maybe tomorrow Mitt will say something the whole news cycle will be commenting on it.

evergreenland on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Newt 2012: Give Romney the finger all the way to the convention.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Bluegill!

Rusty Allen on March 22, 2012 at 11:36 PM

the moronic rantings of the birth certificate-obsessed, palin-worshiping types, and saw that there was plenty of idiocy on this side, too, sadly.

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

The Palinites did not fuss over the BC. You’re conflating groups of people you despise.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Rick Santorum needs to step down. His supporters need to admit defeat gracefully, suck it up and join the team for the big win.

The Resolute Desk on March 22, 2012 at 11:32 PM

No Mitt Romney has to step down.

Unless he can give a very very good reason why voters will not be thinking.

we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future

Because if they are thinking that Obama will win in November.

Santorum is right.

Mitt is very wrong and very mean and Obama like to try to twist it like he and so many here are.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM

First.

The power of the union.

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM

You have to have a plurality of delegates in five states to be nominated in a brokered convention. But like your social life, brokered conventions don’t exist.

Rusty Allen on March 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM

You are one of my favorite commenters on here.

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I’ve always said that a lot of the Romney supporters perceive him as smart, and they see support for Romney as a well of telling people that they too are super smart. Lot of them dump on Palin for the same reason, they think she’s perceived as stupid so if they hate Palin, they must be smart.

It’s about personal branding for a lot of voters.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

How did they stop her? She made the decision not to run.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Dear Dr., I was giving you the bennefit of the doubt when I thought you followed politics. I believed that you already KNEW how the GOP elitists have worked behind the scenes IN LOCKSTEP WITH the liberals in attacking Sarah relentlessly.

Honestly, if you don’t know how the RINO leaders in the GOP assisted in dragging down Sarah because of her conservative beliefs then you don’t know enough about our political situation today, but that is merely my opinion so don’t get all wee wee’d up about it.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

You have to have a plurality of delegates in five states to be nominated in a brokered convention. But like your social life, brokered conventions don’t exist.

Rusty Allen on March 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM

No. You have to have a plurality of delegates in five states to be nominated on the floor of the convention. Anyone can be nominated in a brokered convention.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

The reality is if Romney had just thrown RomneyCare under the bus from the get go, he would have wrapped up this nomination a long time ago. All his flip flopping hasn’t seem to hurt him much so why not toss your biggest liablity under the bus as well? Just say you wer ein a liberal state and you danced for the liberals up there, gave them what they wanted even though you thought it was horrible policy. That’s how I would have played it.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Hardly. Perry was assailed for the Gardasil thing even though it didn’t go through (by some of the same people whining about our choices now, I might add). So, it wouldn’t have mattered what Romney said…haters gonna hate.

changer1701 on March 22, 2012 at 11:39 PM

The Palinites did not fuss over the BC. You’re conflating groups of people you despise.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:36 PM

I should have put an “and” instead of a comma. That’s what I meant. However, they are not separate groups. There is some overlap. For example, look at ITGuy.

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I found a bloody arm on the floor here, anyone missing their arm?

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM

smoothsailing on March 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Sorry y’all. buymoredanishstuff got me all exited then ran away. It kind killed the mood.

cozmo on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

DannoJyd, did you see my question?

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Santorum is starting to wear on me big time. I like him…but I just think he’s been sooo whiney throughout all this.
And this….well now its just getting to the point where its starting to look more like its all about HIM and not the country.
It does the party no good to go after your opponent like this, just because HE’S frustrated.

Handel on March 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM

No Mitt Romney is the one whining here.

Santorum is stating what voters would be thinking if Mitt were the nominee in November. Mitt whines about it because he knows that is exactly what voters would be thinking in November were he the nominee. Thus Saul Alinsky says if you can not defend yourself personalize and attack the messenger. Romney does that. Pure evil just like Alinsky dedicated to Satan.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

No braky?

smoothsailing on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Honestly, if you don’t know how the RINO leaders in the GOP assisted in dragging down Sarah because of her conservative beliefs then you don’t know enough about our political situation today, but that is merely my opinion so don’t get all wee wee’d up about it.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I disagree with this, I think if she had hanged in there in Alaska and finished out her term, she could have been tough to beat. Romney is beatable if Santorum has made it somewhat tough for him.

Lot of Republican voters listen to the “RINO” leaders, that’s the problem, not so much the RINOs leaders.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Santorum is going to far in this contest by comparing Romney negatively to Obama. This is on the same level of Gingrich blowing it when he attacked Romney from the left. Nobody can make Santorum drop out–except the voters. Here’s hoping he gets trounced.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

But I have never been comfortable with Santorum being the nominee. I know how severe the hatred is in the popular culture and press for anyone who openly displays their faith on their, in this case, sweater vest. To me, at this point, Santorum was the useful idiot to reach a brokered convention. Maybe Gingrich will rise again in the south, so to speak.

I firmly believe someone other than the 4 stooges could emerge from the convention with a lot of support from the 3 wings of the party and everyone focused on driving Obama from the White House.

Oh well.

karenhasfreedom on March 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Hardly. Perry was assailed for the Gardasil thing even though it didn’t go through (by some of the same people whining about our choices now, I might add). So, it wouldn’t have mattered what Romney said…haters gonna hate.

changer1701 on March 22, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Perry was defeated on that issue but he was kind of smary and acted like he “listened” to the people on it. No, he was defeated politically on it.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Hello Bishop. Nice seeing you. It’s been pretty bad in here tonight. makes you almost want to give up.

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

So let me ask you DannoJyd, who are you planning on voting for?

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

That is a VERY good question as I will NOT vote for 0bama or 0bama lite.

Either I’ll vote for JUST the individual candidates not in the POTUS section or I’ll vote for someone not 0bama or 0bama lite. I may not know until I get into the voting booth, but it won’t be a vote for 0bama or 0bama lite.

ABR and AB0 as both are different sides of the same LOUSY liberal record.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Hardly. Perry was assailed for the Gardasil thing even though it didn’t go through (by some of the same people whining about our choices now, I might add). So, it wouldn’t have mattered what Romney said…haters gonna hate.

changer1701 on March 22, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Perry wasn’t as good a candidate as Romney. He didn’t have the organization or the charisma (pathetic as that is). People overlook a lot when someone has other strengths. Mitt and his supporters seem determined to demean everybody else and then assume they will follow like dogs in November. They are going to be sadly mistaken.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

cozmo on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Lol no worries mate. It just sounded like a dating site on the last page. I’m going back to cracking some books anyways.

Sorry to butt in.

smoothsailing on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

karenhasfreedom on March 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Be serious. If the fantasy of a Palin nomination were to come to pass she couldn’t organize her first press conference with three months to election day.
Heck remember her bus tour and she kept getting lost and then eventually gave up stalking candidates….

Bradky on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I think Perry lost traction more b/c Republican voters wanted a better speaker than Bush and Perry does seem a lot like Bush, maybe worse at times. I credit Rush Limbaugh for this theory.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Righteous, Rick and Texas Rick all have a limited following from only a fraction of the voting public. They’re barely less of a joke than those who think Doc Paul has a chance–or those who think a third party run is a viable alternative. Are there really so many delusional Republicans that they can’t see the train wreck that will accompany conservative orthodoxy? I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats; but it doesn’t help to know that the minority of republicans are equally moronic.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

If we changed all the above names to Mitt Romney ,how would you feel to be called a moron?
Where did you learn to call people morons just b/c they dont’ support your choice? Acorn?
I think you are a paid liberal, trying to hurt Romney’s chances…. Alma.

evergreenland on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Again you are not familiar with the facts surrounding Sarah. Ever give Wikipedia a try?

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

On paper and at surface level, Romney seems like a great candidate.

But he’s a lousy candidate if you dive into the details.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

On the bright side there haven’t been any death threats yet, nor challenges to a duel.

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Again you are not familiar with the facts surrounding Sarah. Ever give Wikipedia a try?

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I’m not concerned with Palin at this point. She’s not in the mix, and the reason is irrelevant to me. It’s probably Romney vs Obama, accepting things is what separates the men from the boys.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

…why, WHY, should we give a d@mn what someone says when this is so clearly the opinion they have of us? You just don’t get it.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM

It’s called “math.” In order to beat Obama, our nominee has to appeal to more people than the hard right 30% fringe of the GOP. People can moan about some “ruling elite” picking the nominee when those who are REALLY picking the nominee are voters at the ballot box. Unless the paranoids who think Cuda or Newt or Rick can save them come back to reality, Obama will get his 51% and we’ll have Santorum to thank just like we can thank him for the final vote for Obamacare through his surrogate.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Brokered convention for the win!

I’ll vote for ABO but if Romney is the candidate I firmly believe I will lose 20 minutes of my life voting for him in Nov because Obama is going to hammer him on Romneycare etc.

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

This is on the same level of Gingrich blowing it when he attacked Romney from the left.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

He didn’t attack from the left. That’s just what you Romney people, your money and your conservative media megaphone hypocritically decided to spin that day. He criticized corporate raiding, which is about on par with Freddie Mac Lobbying and congresspeople for despised career paths.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

bluegill on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Likewise.

Rusty Allen on March 22, 2012 at 11:48 PM

No. You have to have a plurality of delegates in five states to be nominated on the floor of the convention. Anyone can be nominated in a brokered convention.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM

It would destroy any party that even thought about having a Nominee that got not a single Primary vote.

Santorum will win the convention. This is why Mitt is trying so hard to prevent a convention. I agree if Santorum wins it will be because of GOD. But then too was that not the case with Tim Tebow and John 3:16. 31.6 yards 316 yards and 31.6 rating for the game. I believe in God with all my heart. Maybe others should start believing. It could be ugly for unbelievers if God is real.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:48 PM

It’s about time for our Kumbaya moment here in hotair. Time to mend those fences, etch those sketches and jump aboard the Republican ticket. No need to cut off your nose to spite your face.

hot-heir on March 22, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Screw that. I’ll save my principles and not sell my soul to the devil, thank you.

Dunedainn on March 22, 2012 at 11:48 PM

It’s called “math.”

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

It’s called “a credible candidate”. You don’t have one.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Ok so if I am correct, you won’t be voting for Obama or the Republican candidate against him (that would be Romney if he gets the nomination) in the general. Then if that is true, why do you care if it’s a “RINO” or not?

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Bradky on March 22, 2012 at 11:44 PM

That’s the spirit, you keep talking to these guys. Someone is going to answer you. Lol

smoothsailing on March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM

What cracks me up is Romney defending his Bain Capital experience by comparing it to Obama’s hostile and I think unlawful takevover of GM.

This is the man we are told is so brilliant.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I always thought that the majority of morons were democrats; but it doesn’t help to know that the minority of republicans are equally moronic.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Then I suppose it’s a good thing so many of us don’t identify ourselves as “Republican” before “conservative” and a host of other descriptions.

You’re getting stuck on a party designation and that isn’t smart.

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM

The only argument that possibly holds water is if you are of the mind that it’s already too late. That the die has been cast and the country’s doomed.

If you hold to that argument (and I have several friends who do), then you want to see Teh Won get reelected, because then the inevitable collapse really, truly, fer sure, falls directly on his and the Dems’ heads.

They own it. Period.

Once we rise from the ashes of the massive chaos and destruction that are to come, what ever remnants of Leftist ideology that may still exist, will surely be purged from our ranks. Their bankrupt doctrine will be held wholly accountable for the deaths of millions of Americans.

I can’t stomach that train of logic. I still hold out hope that we can salvage something from the mess, and that I’ll be leaving something to my sons. I have to hope, or I’ll get swallowed by despair.

But that’s what’s there. Some Republican/Libertarian people I know are planning on voting for Obama. They’re planning on the fall. And want to hang it around his neck.

nukemhill on March 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM

It would destroy any party that even thought about having a Nominee that got not a single Primary vote.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Possibly. Newt is not one of those people. He also has a shot in a brokered convention.

I am very sorry to have to say it, because I like Santorum supporters and I’m sure Santorum is a very honorable man, but he would be toast against Obama. I do not see him winning a brokered convention. I’m not saying Newt’s chances are better, but they aren’t much worse.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM

But that’s what’s there. Some Republican/Libertarian people I know are planning on voting for Obama. They’re planning on the fall. And want to hang it around his neck.

nukemhill on March 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM

have some tinfoil

Bradky on March 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Bishop on March 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Heh. I would enjoy a good old fashioned 17th century duel. Not sure Obama knows how to handle a gun…

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

My voting for Romney is going to require me to pay my new state’s welcome tax so I can vote. So let’s just say my vote is still up in the air b/c I don’t know if I care enough to fork out the welcome tax and I enjoy engaging a felony that involves not paying up to the government.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Because we still hold out hope the party will not commit hari kari and present us with a nominee we cannot support.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

It’s probably Romney vs Obama, accepting things is what separates the men from the boys.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Accepting another LAME candidate is what WILL bring down the entire Republican Party AGAIN. Best be careful of what you wish for.

I myself refuse to surrender my conservative beliefs just to get 0bama out of office. I really don’t see how putting in a LIBERAL in GOP clothing would be any sort of an improvement. Would RonMe work to get rid of 0bamacare? Would he reign in the EPA? We already know that he REFUSES to go on the attack against 0bama as he has REPEATEDLY stated that in public.

As things stand today I believe that giving 0bama a conservtive congress would work out quite well. Remember the results when Gingrich fought Clinton? The result most remembered is the Balanced Budget.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

He didn’t attack from the left. That’s just what you Romney people, your money and your conservative media megaphone hypocritically decided to spin that day. He criticized corporate raiding, which is about on par with Freddie Mac Lobbying and congresspeople for despised career paths.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

“you Romney people” heh. I liked Gingrich for the nomination, but he is effectively out of contention now. I always thought Romney was phony, but I’ll take him over Santorum any day.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

If we changed all the above names to Mitt Romney ,how would you feel to be called a moron?
Where did you learn to call people morons just b/c they dont’ support your choice? Evergreenland

Fine, change the names but also change the vote totals at the same time. If Romney had half the delegates of the front runner, was getting the votes of the underemployed and undereducated and I was banking on him getting 76% of the rest of the contests, I’d be a moron too.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:53 PM

The reality is the less confident, less intelligent REpublcian voters are less likely to criticize Romney b/c he does have this perception of being a super smart guy, I assume party b/c he has loads of money. I don’t view Romney as being leagues above me in terms of intelligence, and I don’t say this to slight Romney’s intelligence or brag about mine, I’m just making the point if you aren’t that bright, you are less likely to criticize Romney when he says and does stupid things.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Desperation makes people look so stupidly desperate.

-Clutching at etched straws

Opinionnation on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

I cannot take either of them. I am for a brokered convention at which either Newt or someone to be named later gets the nom. I’m really not kidding.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Accepting another LAME candidate is what WILL bring down the entire Republican Party AGAIN. Best be careful of what you wish for.

I myself refuse to surrender my conservative beliefs just to get 0bama out of office. I really don’t see how putting in a LIBERAL in GOP clothing would be any sort of an improvement. Would RonMe work to get rid of 0bamacare? Would he reign in the EPA? We already know that he REFUSES to go on the attack against 0bama as he has REPEATEDLY stated that in public.

As things stand today I believe that giving 0bama a conservtive congress would work out quite well. Remember the results when Gingrich fought Clinton? The result most remembered is the Balanced Budget.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Right. Just think how much worse it would have been with President McCain instead of Obama. How awful would that have been?

Don’t be a Democrat tool.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

It’s called “math.” In order to beat Obama, our nominee has to appeal to more people than the hard right 30% fringe of the GOP. People can moan about some “ruling elite” picking the nominee when those who are REALLY picking the nominee are voters at the ballot box. Unless the paranoids who think Cuda or Newt or Rick can save them come back to reality, Obama will get his 51% and we’ll have Santorum to thank just like we can thank him for the final vote for Obamacare through his surrogate.

Alma on March 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Did you flunk history. Does 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5

Well
This Argument let us use history and decide the score.
Goldwater was all for it. He lost.
Ford was totally with you. He lost.
Dlole used it a lot. But He lost.
G H W Bush was against it and quite conservative he won. But he used this logic in his second term. He Lost.
McCain used this as his main argument. He Lost.

Seems to me that was 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 0 wins.

Guess you are right my math sucks.

But at least I know history unlike you.

By the way is not doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result insanity.

Guess you are that too.

I would rather not know math but not know history and be insane.

Steveangell on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

But that is a bit strange isn’t it? We got the candidates that decided to run and now we have to pick from that selection. If you don’t like the selection then you don’t vote. I’m nope sure we are allowed to draft them against their will.

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Accepting another LAME candidate is what WILL bring down the entire Republican Party AGAIN. Best be careful of what you wish for.

I myself refuse to surrender my conservative beliefs just to get 0bama out of office. I really don’t see how putting in a LIBERAL in GOP clothing would be any sort of an improvement. Would RonMe work to get rid of 0bamacare? Would he reign in the EPA? We already know that he REFUSES to go on the attack against 0bama as he has REPEATEDLY stated that in public.

As things stand today I believe that giving 0bama a conservtive congress would work out quite well. Remember the results when Gingrich fought Clinton? The result most remembered is the Balanced Budget.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

I didn’t wish for anything, especially Romney. I’ve always thought it was a bad idea to pit the ROmneyCare guy against the Obamacare guy. But that’s what we are getting. I’m a man, and I accept what I get, and I get a lot of bad things, like cancer, and I’m still here, baby. I’m a survivor, don’t you ever doubt that.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Then if that is true, why do you care if it’s a “RINO” or not?

Jesse on March 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Some people have the courage of their convictions. I happen to be one of those and I will not sell my vote for conviences sake. Besides, RonMe has NOT given me A SINGLE REASON to vote for him. Not one, but he HAS given me a DOZEN REASONS to not vote for him.

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Reality-check.

Rick Santorum’s campaign has been noted primarily for awkward statements about Satan, pornography and finally an ill-phrased attack on a fellow Republican. This is all the average voter will ever take away. And it’s not a winning image. The sweater vest thing alone screams “loser” in 2012 America. Sorry to break the news to anyone. Remember Dukakis in the tank? The man is simply too open to ridicule, on too many fronts.

Mitt Romney’s campaign has been noted primarily for his penchant to speak like a detached, wealthy businessman. Not a populist image, to be sure, but one that can at least be turned to some advantage during these hard economic times. And all the average voter will ever take away is a photogenic businessman talking about making America prosperous again. Mitt Romney looks like he stepped straight out of central casting and was asked to read for the role of POTUS. Not a bad thing.

Santorum supporters should be allowed to have their night of mourning, and to lick their wounds. But like Santorum himself, they should never forget which team they’re on, ultimately.

The Resolute Desk on March 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

I disagree with this, I think if she had hanged in there in Alaska and finished out her term, she could have been tough to beat. Romney is beatable if Santorum has made it somewhat tough for him.
Lot of Republican voters listen to the “RINO” leaders, that’s the problem, not so much the RINOs leaders.
Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

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I must disagree. She made the right move. She returned to a circus on AK- no more upside there. And if she was outta sight outta mind up there, her valuable presence to produce the 2010 Shellacking may have changed the outcome for the mid terms. The Tea Party may not have taken off as well- admittedly she’s no Einstein- but she was just as valuable with her Inspiration. No one can deny her that. she changed our little world in 2010.

FlaMurph on March 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Romney’s perceived intelligence could be a great asset to us if he were to dump RomneyCare and say was a huge mistake. Bright people screw up all the time, no shame in admitting it. I think it would do him a world of good, but he wants to make RomneyCare his hill to die on.

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Tesla, what welcome tax?

karenhasfreedom on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Are people really surprised that this Nut has finally cracked? Santorum is a complete nut job! He was telling people what Romeny-Bot is afraid to say, but Santorum doesn’t believe them. When all is said and done, it will be clear to good, honest, Conservative American’s they were duped by Crazy Ass Santorum. Send him back to Pennsylvania with a boot up his ass.

Tbone McGraw on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I cannot take either of them. I am for a brokered convention at which either Newt or someone to be named later gets the nom. I’m really not kidding.

alwaysfiredup on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I understand the sentiment, but I don’t see that as a beneficial outcome. Pulling someone in last minute would be a daunting challenge to put a national campaign together. And like it or not, the vetting that happens in the primaries allows our candidates practice parrying attacks against their weaknesses. Romney’s phoniness as a recent issue gives him a chance to prove he can address it–if he can. This was always his biggest weakness in my mind and it would have been issue number one by the Obama campaign.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

I have NO confidence that McConnell will block any Supreme Ct. nominee, regardless of how far left the nomineee is…With Mitt, we’ll probably get a Kennedy type, at worst a Souter. But no way a Kagen/Sotomayor/Ginsburg etc…That, in itself, is enuf to vote FOR Romney over the obamanation…

Gohawgs on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

The Republican Party is the republican party. Its not the conservative party.
We moderates have just as much right to get our nominee as the conservative wing of our part.
I have no problem with Rick Santorum continuing to run for the nomination.
I do have problem with him sayin Obama would be superior to romney.
gerrym51 on March 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Glad that’s cleared up. Then we need a third party to modulate the big government and big entitlement tendencies of both moderates and liberals. May not happen in 2012, but will in 2016 or the country splits between those that want fiscal sanity and those that want to be like the socialist Europe of yore.

Either way America gets the govt it deserves at the expense of our kids and grandkids.

Here’s my prophecy, those of you that plan on reaching retirement in about 20 or 30 years from now without kids or a just couple; you’re in for a big surprise as my kids and others give you the big “screw you, not one thin dime to any of your promised entitlements”. You better hope your own can take care of you in your old age, because mine can’t and won’t, even as you lay in rags outside our fence in a cardboard box.

AH_C on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Santorum supporters should be allowed to have their night of mourning, and to lick their wounds. But like Santorum himself, they should never forget which team they’re on, ultimately.

The Resolute Desk on March 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Somehow I think Rick would frown on that as it might lead to self pleasuring activities not intended for procreation…

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williamg on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I don’t think voters needed Palin to vote anti-Democrat in 2010. I support the endorsements don’t matter much theory.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Dr. Tesla on March 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Why didn’t you just accept your cancer like you now accept RonMe?

You fought against your cancer and I’ll keep fighting against the liberal cancer that will be inserted into our selections, thankyouverymuch.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Right. Just think how much worse it would have been with President McCain instead of Obama. How awful would that have been?

Don’t be a Democrat tool.

BryanS on March 22, 2012 at 11:55 PM

McCain would have gotten Cap and Trade into law.
McCain was all for Amnesty. Had he won it would be law.
McCain was all about jumping over to the other side.
Thus no extension of the Bush tax cuts.

Had he won he would have just worked with Harry Reid and Nancy Polosi and gotten far more of what they wanted done all with bipartisan support.

Yes indeed McCain would have been far far worse than Obama. We would have had no chance of a Republican winning in 2012.

Steveangell on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Need I remind you that Nicole Wallace is married to a high level aid in the Romney camp. There are others.
karenhasfreedom on March 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM

That is false. Her husband does not work for Romney and never did.

Buy Danish on March 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Seems like Rush is doing fine. It’s going to take a miracle to get him knocked off the radio b/c he’s competitive and he knows how to play the game.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM

williamg on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I’m thinking you don’t like it here.

Bishop on March 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM

You have to have a plurality of delegates in five states to be nominated in a brokered convention. But like your social life, brokered conventions don’t exist.
Rusty Allen on March 22, 2012 at 11:26 PM

You do know all RNC rules come with an expiration date? The five state rule is just a suggestion.

AH_C on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 AM

DannoJyd on March 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

I’m not sure that if Romney gave you a reason that you would take it right? He has said he will get rid of Obamacare, but I am sure you think he is lying. So, what could he say to you that you would believe anyway?

Are you sure this is conviction? Or just anger that the candidate you wanted didn’t run?

Jesse on March 23, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Why didn’t you just accept your cancer like you now accept RonMe?

You fought against your cancer and I’ll keep fighting against the liberal cancer that will be inserted into our selections, thankyouverymuch.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I didn’t fight against my cancer, they pumped toxic chemicals into me that killed the cancerous cells. That just required me to show up for chemotherapy appointments which isn’t much different than going to the dentist.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Gohawgs on March 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

We members of the TEA Party are working to put in enough CONSERVATIVE Senators that McConnell won’t have much of a choice to surrender to the liberal element. Today that is our game plan.

DannoJyd on March 23, 2012 at 12:04 AM

You can fight against Romney all you want but he’s still going to be the nominee. I don’t see what you can do about it other than not vote for him in the primary.

I still think we should be willing to give Romney a shot over Obama in the end.

Dr. Tesla on March 23, 2012 at 12:05 AM

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