Time for another debate?

posted at 8:40 am on March 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Mitt Romney sailed to an easy win over Rick Santorum last night in Illinois, winning by twelve points in a primary that unfolded just about how pollsters predicted — unlike in Mississippi a week earlier.  The 47% plurality won by Romney may have been the lowest winning percentage in Illinois in 100 years as Smart Politics points out, but it’s also the first time in decades that an Illinois primary meant anything to Republicans, too.  Romney took the lion’s share of the delegates — at least 41 of the 54 at stake last night, with three delegate races still outstanding.  It was an impressive win:

With a decisive win in the Illinois presidential primary, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney sets his sights on the bayou where Louisiana holds the next Republican primary.

“We thank the people of Illinois for this extraordinary victory,” Romney told supporters in the Chicago suburb of Schaumburg. “Elections are about choices. Today, hundreds of thousands of people in Illinois joined millions of people in this country in this cause.”

With 99% of precincts reporting, Romney led former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum by a 47%-to-35% margin. Texas Rep. Ron Paul was running third at 9%, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich had 8%.

With the victory, Romney was poised to win at least 41 of the 54 delegates up for grabs in the state, giving him a total of 562, according to CNN’s estimate. Santorum is second with 249, Gingrich third with 137 and Paul last with 69.

Next comes Louisiana, where Santorum expects to do well in a proportional primary on Saturday.  He’ll need a win to keep the race from hitting a tipping point and Republicans from coalescing around Romney.  If Romney wins in Louisiana, he’ll add a Southern state to his regional claims and head into the 10-day break with momentum and a favorable primary schedule in April.  Santorum has to last out April to get to a more favorable primary schedule in May, with five southern states and two in the Midwest.  Romney wants a knockout, and fast; Santorum needs a gamechanger.

You know what might work for both of them?  Another debate.  In my column for The Week, I lay out why both men might be inclined to see a debate between Louisiana’s primary and the four contests on April 3rd as an opportunity for their own strategic purposes, as long as it was a real, one-on-one debate:

Santorum might feel that the potential reward of another debate would be worth risking another mediocre showing. Santorum has won two primaries and a caucus since the last debate, and he has a fair shot at winning Louisiana’s primaries on Saturday, while Tuesday’s primary in Illinois looks likely to break for Romney. Starting in April, though, the primary schedule looks a lot less friendly for the Pennsylvanian. Eight states will hold primaries — four on April 3, and five more on the 21st — and Santorum probably only has a significant chance of winning in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If he can gain traction and catch up in the delegate hunt, May looks more promising, with seven of the eight states in the South or Midwest. But by the time Santorum gets there, his strength may have faded if he can’t keep up with Romney in April. Santorum has managed to outmaneuver Gingrich to become Romney’s most significant competitor, but without real wins to close the delegate gap, his credibility will evaporate. He needs a game-changer.

Would Romney agree to a debate? Conventional wisdom would dictate that a frontrunner avoid getting tangled in another debate. However, Romney may also need a game-changer — not to win the nomination, but to win it more quickly. Thanks to rule changes made by the RNC after John McCain won the nomination before most of the country got a chance to vote, Romney has to outlast everyone else and hope that he gets enough delegates to clinch a convention majority. While his opponents continue to campaign, the delegate splits at least give the impression that Romney won’t be able to close the deal, leaving the possibility open for a brokered convention. A big debate win for Romney, or even just another defensive and distracted performance from Santorum, might be enough to derail Santorum and produce the tipping point that Romney needs to get voters to climb onto his bandwagon.

More importantly, though, voters in the upcoming states could use a fresh debate, as long as it doesn’t use the game-show format we’ve seen thus far — and with only two candidates on stage, the need for that format disappears:

The most important question is whether the voters need another debate — and perhaps the answer is yes, given the right conditions. None of the previous debates used a format that produced real insight into policy or governing temperament, owing mainly to the number of candidates on stage and the media’s insistence on using game-show techniques. With only the two frontrunning candidates on stage, the time pressure on answers created by the need to get to seven, eight, or nine candidates evaporates. Romney and Santorum would have more time for substantive answers to substantive questions — presuming the moderator focused on issues that matter most to voters, and not silly questions about underwear and personal squabbles. In a revamped format that perhaps could take its cues from the Gingrich-Herman Cain debate, one last face-off might produce significant value for voters still choosing which candidate to support.

I’d guess that the likelihood of another debate would be low.  Both candidates probably want to focus on raising money in the ten-day break, and neither would leap at the chance to put themselves at risk.  However, voters never got a real debate with the leading candidates, and one at this stage — with almost half of the states remaining to cast ballots — might be a very good idea for them.


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Deflection, its what they do.

rob verdi on April 7, 2013 at 3:37 PM

You do err, Mr. Jazz: it’s the future war.

The ‘kill Romney /Occupy’ strategy will be in effect until the 2014 mid term elections in order to sway the LoFo voters to switch the House to democrat control.

locomotivebreath1901 on April 7, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Why does it have to be a Romney plan? Lots of people won and lost last year, they’ve got plenty to choose from. ^_^

Oxymoron on April 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM

So now Romney is the new blamestick? Fine by me, I never want to hear Bush blamed again.

nobar on April 7, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Never assume that Obama wants something good for the USA.

See his dummy capo too.

p.s. Obama is out golfing.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Romney was also responsible for Benghazi!

Because, remember, he tried to assign blame to the Obama Administration pre-emptively. Before the blame was warranted by the slowly-leaked and media-ignored facts.

And now, thanks to that premature designation of culpability to Obama and Hillary, Romney deserves more blame than they do… for blaming them… or something.

profitsbeard on April 7, 2013 at 3:54 PM

He’s a ginger!!1!!!

Blake on April 7, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Wonder if bho’s team gets tired of blaming everyone in the US for krappy policies? They all must be programed to put the blame on everyone else but bho? I know I sure am tired of bho’s pass on blame! You got re-elected bho YOU OWN it now!
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letget on April 7, 2013 at 3:58 PM

The president’s focus, in addition to the regular order process that members of Congress say they want, is to try to find a caucus of common sense, folks who are willing to compromise, that don’t think compromise is a dirty word, and try to get something done.

President Sibilant Esses would just as soon forget regular order and issue a royal decree. But now, of course, it’s his focus. Like a laser.

Lest we all forget, compromise means Obama gets whatever he wants and the GOP gets to like it.

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM

I often wondered what would happen if and when the expiration date was ever reached for blaming Bush.

What expiration date? Everyone knows Bush is actually Emmanuel Goldstein & the eternal personification of right wing fascist evil. There is no expiration date on this Hate Object for the True Believers.

novaculus on April 7, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Oh, and this guy Pfeiffer is the same guy who scolded the Press for quoting stories on Drudge, which is an aggregator of stories written by the Press.

He’s one of Obama’s senior advisors. How old are Obama’s junior advisors?

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM

GWB started the Arab’spring’ in Iraq, don’t you know?

Obama owns it, in full!!!

Name one people who are free/freer due to Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

The president’s focus, in addition to the regular order process that members of Congress say they want, is to try to find a caucus of common sense, folks who are willing to compromise, that don’t think compromise is a dirty word, and try to get something done.

Hey, Danny. The Republicans already did compromise. Were you in a coma 3 months ago when they caved on tax hikes? Obama got his long sought after higher taxes, so now it’s his turn to give a little on spending and entitlements.

Doughboy on April 7, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Name one people who are free/freer due to Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Illegal immigrant felons.

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Name one people who are free/freer due to Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

its not america’s duty to free other people.

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Illegal immigrant felons.

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Yep. Including extra-special treatment for dirtbags Auntie Zetuni and drunk-driving Uncle Omar.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Barky wants to “fix” America like a dog gets fixed. You’re too much, hoping that the anti-American, anti-Western, third-world dog-eating retard wants to help the people he hates with every single one of his 84 IQ points … LOL.

Maybe he’s busy working on those “profit AND earnings ratios” or spending time mucking up health care but “reduc[ing] premiums by 3000%!!” You idiots are too funny. I just wish you would all be funny in some other country that deserves your useless existence.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 7, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

The only thing Ogabe is fixing, is his eyes on Reggie Love’s chucks.

tom daschle concerned on April 7, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Name one people who are free/freer due to Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Illegal immigrant felons.

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM

LOL – I am thinking of renouncing my America citizenship – flying to Mexico and then crossing back in as an undocumented Democrat….I would probably be that much further ahead of the gringos…

redguy on April 7, 2013 at 4:29 PM

…”the private sector is doing fine!”

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Wallace let him get away with selling his strawmen and snake oil on pretty much every point.
Why is that?

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:35 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Funny. I figured you’d be downright indignant with Pfeiffer, after professing your love for Romney yesterday. Troll.

CycloneCDB on April 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Whats wrong with America?

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Why does this adolescent troll interject himself in every single thread with some idiotic statement.

BeachBum on April 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Why does this adolescent troll interject himself in every single thread with some idiotic statement.

BeachBum on April 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Its a way of feeling important. Cleaning the hair out of mom’s bathtub for an allowance and french fry money is bad for the ego.

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:48 PM

obama abomination, err I mean administration = everyting political, the country be damned!

losarkos on April 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Forgive me but before the guy said a word he was rubbing me the wrong way.

KBird on April 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Whats wrong with America?

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:44 PM

…you trying to induce a brain aneurism on noforeskin?

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Lon Chaney, the silent film actor, was called The Man of a Thousand Faces. Obama is The Man of a Thousand Excuses” … … and just as many lies.

VorDaj on April 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM

…you trying to induce a brain aneurism on noforeskin?

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 5:22 PM

No reply, he replied.

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Never assume that Obama wants something good for the USA.

See his dummy capo too.

p.s. Obama is out golfing.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I wonder why this is not getting more press? /sarc

rottenrobbie on April 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM

***partisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

And keep in mind, this is a staffer from the same team who was saying, right up until two weeks before the election, that Mitt Romney has no economic plan.

Some good nuggets in Jazz’s short post yet you post what you posted?

Yes, you’re partisan. You’re nic is a joke.

CW on April 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Wallace let him get away with selling his strawmen and snake oil on pretty much every point.
Why is that?

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Rhetorical question, right?

AZfederalist on April 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Whats wrong with America?

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Conservative media thats for sure. They continue to stoke the ignorance already inbred in most conservatives.

HotAirLib on April 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Rhetorical question, right?

AZfederalist on April 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Yeah…’spose so.

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Er, um, who was President while Romney was running for the job? I don’t recall Mitt being given any of the policy or executive authority of the President while he was campaigning. Did I miss something?

ss396 on April 7, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Conservative media thats for sure. They continue to stoke the ignorance already inbred in most conservatives.

HotAirLib on April 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

There’s no information in that.
Can you provide the examples that was the basis of that reply?
Thanks.

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Just for HAL

Satan laughing with delight the day the music died

He was singing, bye bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry

Them good ol’ boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing…

This’ll be the day that I die

This’ll be the day that I die

So, the question remains:

How long will America suffer and to what depths?

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 6:17 PM

President Sibilant Esses would just as soon forget regular order and issue a royal decree.

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Too bad that there isn’t some parallel universe where Obama could do his ‘royal decree’ thing, while we sit back and watch. It would be downright hilarious to watch him scamper from decree to decree, frantically trying to contain the massive Unintended Consequences that would result. (But, oh, those poor folks in that alternate universe.)

ss396 on April 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM

American Pie

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Coming soon

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM

This venomous little toad is not worthy of acknowledgement.

pat on April 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM

its not america’s duty to free other people.

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

nonpartisan = nobrain, the 40% unempl. black youth, the 50 million on real and faux disability, the unemployed, all 90 million of them…they R calling on you, you scum.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Conservative media thats for sure. They continue to stoke the ignorance already inbred in most conservatives.

HotAirLib on April 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

But MSNBC is cool, go figure.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM

PFEIFFER: Well, there are a couple of things here, George. First is, the House has passed a budget, the Senate passed a budget. The hope is that the House and Senate can come together and work to try to find a compromise. The president’s focus, in addition to the regular order process that members of Congress say they want, is to try to find a caucus of common sense, folks who are willing to compromise, that don’t think compromise is a dirty word, and try to get something done. And – but if Speaker Boehner’s position, as he said it in that statement, remains his position, then we will not make progress, because what this president will not do is come in, right after getting reelected, and enact a Romney economic plan, which is what the Republicans in the House are proposing.

Elections. Consequences.

Key West Reader on April 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM

HotAirLib on April 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

There’s no information in that.
Can you provide the examples that was the basis of that reply?
Thanks.

Mimzey on April 7, 2013 at 6:12 PM

HAL’s middle name IS vacuous.

CW on April 7, 2013 at 6:29 PM

I’d much rather obama focus on fixing america than worry about liberating some other country.

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Heh. I hope Glenn Reynolds picks this up.

Key West Reader on April 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Hey, Danny. The Republicans already did compromise. Were you in a coma 3 months ago when they caved on tax hikes? Obama got his long sought after higher taxes, so now it’s his turn to give a little on spending and entitlements. demand even more taxes.

Doughboy on April 7, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Fixed, unfortunately.

The One does not “give”. He “decrees”, and “takes”, as he sees is his just due.

His definition of “compromise” is “I get what I want- you give it to me.” Period. He is utterly incapable of conceiving that anyone who disagrees with him might have a point. And he is utterly devoted to the principle of “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs- as I define both.

Reason and compromise are not part of this man’s makeup. All that is there is power lust, and hatred of anyone and anything he perceives as different from himself.

He makes Marat look almost rational. And Lysenko look almost intelligent.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM

President Sibilant Esses

Curtiss on April 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM

I always wonder why more isn’t made of the way Obama whistles when he talks. I keep googling “Obama Parselmouth” but come up empty.

PortlandJon on April 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Romney was also responsible for Benghazi!

Because, remember, he tried to assign blame to the Obama Administration pre-emptively. Before the blame was warranted by the slowly-leaked and media-ignored facts.

And now, thanks to that premature designation of culpability to Obama and Hillary, Romney deserves more blame than they do… for blaming them… or something.

profitsbeard on April 7, 2013 at 3:54 PM

The Obama administration, and Hillary, are to BLAME FOR the attack in Benghazi! They BOTH PROMOTED that attack by apologizing for FREEDOM of speech in the USA! Once the Islamists in Benghazi heard that, they scheduled their attack as they saw Obama’s words as a direct concession.

Which is EXACTLY why Romney stated it was BAD POLICY to APOLOGIZE for FREEDOM of speech!

These FACTS were totally twisted up by the propagandists in the media. Their assult started on the very first day before the truth could get in front of their lies!

I wonder when the 350+ BILLION in TAX INCREASES implemented this year will be identified as an economic MISTAKE? Will this take as long to ‘identify’ as Roosevelt’s economically incompetant tax increases of 1937 did? We already have a media that is blaming a cut in increased spending, that has yet to be implemented, for the economic failure that these higher taxes are leading us into.

Freddy on April 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Who the hell would take this child seriously, given his dress?

Your suit sucks bad, kid…and you need lessons on neckties.

Looks like a 15 yr. old who busted into Dad’s closet for some Student Body President campaign.

Effin’ amateurs from the ground up.

a5minmajor on April 7, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Name one people who are free/freer due to Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Drug cartel gangmembers? Illegal aliens? Muslim Brotherhood?

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Drug cartel gangmembers? Illegal aliens? Muslim Brotherhood?

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Plus the others, you forgot the Black Panthers and the union capos. I already know about these groups.

Next time I’ll be more specific and say “nation people”.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 10:23 PM

So Preezy and staff is blaming Romney’s shadow illuminati gubmint…

Forward!

workingclass artist on April 8, 2013 at 12:38 AM