Romney tells heckler to “vote for the other guy” for “free stuff”

2.) Um…do you understand what Romneycare did? It was the OPPOSITE OF FREE HEALTH INSURANCE. Are you people so worked up with insensate knee-jerk hatred that you are no longer even able to remember or understand the criticism of Romneycare? It wasn’t that it gave away “free” health insurance, it was exactly the opposite: it forced people in MA to PAY for their health insurance by requiring everyone to purchase coverage. The entire point of the program was to get rid of the problem of so-called ‘free riders’ who were clogging up the system but not paying for it.

I actually think this sort of thing is telling: a lot of anti-Romneyites aren’t even able to correctly explain what it is he did that they’re opposed to. They just know that Romney is evil, and “Romneycare did whatever bad thing I currently wish to rail against.”

It doesn’t speak well to the conviction and intelligence behind your opposition.

Esoteric on March 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Great, so what’s wrong with Obamacare then? It does the same thing. It forces people to buy their own insurance, and eliminates the free rider problem.

I love how the Rombots defend Romneycare, but then beg and plead to vote for Romney so he can repeal Obamacare.

Mittbots are funny (and often imbecilic).

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 1:46 PM

For the idiots who keep insisting Romneycare is not Obamacare

An exasperated former Mitt Romney adviser is simply fed up that his old boss keeps denying that Romneycare and Obamacare are twins.

“Basically, they’re the same f—ing bill,” Jonathan Gruber, a healthcare economist and MIT professor who helped shape Romney’s healthcare plan, told Capital New York this week.

He added, “The only big difference is didn’t have to pay for his because the federal government paid for it. Where at the federal level, we have to pay for it. So we have to raise taxes.”

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Gunlock Bill on March 20, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Let’s see who should I believe? The guy who was hired by Romney and Obama to work on the bill, or a Mitt-tard?

In the words of Greg Sargent, and Jonathan Gruber, the chief architects of both Romneycare and Obamacare- “These are all essentially Republican ideas that the Obama administration are putting forth.” “What we have here is a not so good politician who failed as a one-term governor, constantly changing his position on issues right before our eyes- publicly saying one thing while privately doing the opposite, which is very indicative of the stalemate by Republicans in Congress,” said Gruber.

”Romney has a problem in that there is no way to truthfully distance himself from the Romneycare legislation,” Gruber said. “Because they’re the same fucking bill. He just can’t have his cake and eat it too. Basically, you know, it’s the same bill. He can try to draw distinctions and stuff, but he’s just lying. The only big difference is he didn’t have to pay for his. Because the federal government paid for it. Where at the federal level, we have to pay for it, so we have to raise taxes.”

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Jonathan Gruber, MIT professor: “The truth is that the Affordable Care Act is essentially based on what we accomplished in Massachusetts. It’s the same basic structure applied nationally. John McDonough, one of the other advisers,who work in both Massachusetts and advised the White House said ‘it’s the Massachusetts with three more zeros.’ And that’s basically a good description of what the federal bill did.”

Gruber says Massachusetts received some federal funding for Romney’s healthcare reform, meaning all U.S. taxpayers chipped in to fund RomneyCare.

Yeah but it’s just at the state level right Mitt-tards?

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Gruber: “Yeah, that is just technically true but intellectually not really straight forward. Basically, in Massachusetts, the financial for our bill came half from the federal government and half from an existing tax that former Governor and presidential candidate Michael Dukakis had put in, in 1988 to finance care for the uninsured. You see, we didn’t have to raise taxes in Massachusetts because money was already there. At the federal level we didn’t have that luxury. It wasn’t like China was going to come and pay half the cost of the Affordable Care Act. There was no bigger government coming to help us out. And so we need to raise taxes so we can finance it.”

Just at the state level, again. Right Mitt-tards?

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Romneycare = Obamacare. The same people who were involved in writing Romney’s bill then went on to write Obama’s bill. Both bills do the same thing, force people to buy insurance they don’t want or face a fine.

Nobody other than an imbecile, a liar or a Mittbot, but there I go repeating myself can defend one and oppose the other. See Special Gunlock Bill as exhibit A of the typical imbecilic Mitt-tard who believes every campaign ad from Willard.

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM

One of the key authors of both Obamacare and Romney care says they’re the same thing. Why listen to him, when Speical Gunlock Billie Bob knows better?

Who are you going to believe a deluded koolaid guzzling Mitt-tard, or someone who helped write both bills?

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I agree with other Romney supporters who say that they wish he would have distanced himself more from the plan, but I reject the ABR argument that this makes it impossible to support him. By that logic, no one should have supported Reagan after he compromised on amnesty for illegals.

Priscilla on March 20, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Apples and Banans.

Romney is running now on the laughable idea that he will repeal Obamacare.

Had Reagan given amnesty to illegals in CA (and yes I know a governor can’t do that, but let’s say he could) and then ran as a fierce enforce the border candidate in 1980, yes it would have been impossible to support him. But he didn’t do that.

And is this the excuse for everythinbg Romney did? He had no choice? Well then why even have a governor in the state if all he does is rubber stamp what the legislature wants? That’s the excuse for Romney care. That;s the excuse for higher taxes, increased spending, liberal judges, etc.

And what will he do if Harry Reid says no to him? Just throw up his hands and say OK Harry, you get everything you want. I have no choice. A leader fights for what he believes in. He may not get it all, but at least he tries. Romney didn’t even bother trying he just went to the MA legislature and said where do I sign?

angryed on March 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM