Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on March 20, 2012 by Allahpundit

“Absent reform, government programs designed in the middle of the 20th century cannot fulfill their promises in the 21st century. It is a mathematical and demographic impossibility. And we said so.

“We assumed there would be some who would distort for political gain our efforts to preserve programs like Medicare. Having been featured in an attack ad literally throwing an elderly woman off a cliff, I can confirm that those assumptions were on the mark…

“The president’s budget gives more power to unelected bureaucrats, takes more from hard-working taxpayers to fuel the expansion of government, and commits our nation to a future of debt and decline.

“The contrast with our budget couldn’t be clearer: We put our trust in citizens, not government. Our budget returns power to individuals, families and communities. It draws inspiration from the Founders’ belief that all people are born with an unalienable right to the pursuit of happiness. Protecting this right means trusting citizens, not nameless government officials, to decide what is in their best interests and make the right choice about our nation’s future.”

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“Mr. Ryan proposes a budget path that would leave government unable to fulfill essential functions. As the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis finds, by 2050 his budget would reduce federal spending for everything besides Social Security, health programs and interest payments to less than 4 percent of the gross domestic product, down from 12.5 percent in 2011. Since, as the CBO notes, ‘spending for defense alone has not been lower than 3 percent of GDP’ since World War II, and Mr. Ryan wants to increase defense spending, there would be essentially nothing left for the rest of government — nothing for education, for highways, for veterans, for low-income families, for the FBI.

“Even in the short term, the Ryan cuts would be breathtaking. He would impose spending caps that would reduce domestic discretionary spending by $800 billion more over the next 10 years than the cuts agreed to as part of the debt-ceiling deal. Mr. Ryan argues that he would strengthen the safety net by transforming programs such as Medicaid and food stamps into block grants for the states. But the plan would cut Medicaid funding by one-fifth over the next decade, not to mention repealing the new health-care law’s expansion of Medicaid to those slightly above the poverty level.

“Mr. Ryan is right about the risks posed by the nation’s mounting debt. But we think his lopsided approach is dangerously wrong for the country.”

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“Democrats are organizing media blitzes, House floor speeches and town halls back home to seize on the changes to Medicare that Republicans are expected to propose Tuesday. To blunt GOP talking points that only Republicans are willing to confront the debt, Democrats intend to unveil their own budget next week calling for a mix of spending cuts and tax hikes on the rich…

“‘They can run, but they cannot hide from their Medicare plan, which ends the Medicare guarantee at the same time they’re providing big new tax breaks to millionaires and protecting special interest tax loopholes,’ Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) told POLITICO in an interview Monday…

“‘For the next few days, all our focus is going to be on Medicare,’ said a senior Democratic aide, who added that no Democrats were expected to support the House Republican budget when it heads to the floor for a vote next week.”

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“The debut of the House Budget Committee chairman’s vision for what conservative governance could and should look like might win him kudos from the conservative policy class, but it elicits only groans from GOP political professionals.

“‘As a campaign issue, the budget is a significant challenge for GOP candidates,’ said Bob Honold, a GOP strategist and partner at Revolution Agency. ‘As a campaign strategy, it is so much more difficult for Republicans to communicate their responsible solutions than it is for Democrats to spook seniors with rhetoric.’

“Another senior GOP strategist was far more blunt. ‘Didn’t they learn their lesson?’ the source asked. ‘House Republicans are still under the mistaken impression they have to lead. It’s a presidential election year; they’re along for the ride.’”

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“Most important, this budget tests Ryan’s reputation as a fiscal hawk, especially his tax plan. The latter would reduce the individual tax rates (which make up the majority of government revenue) to two brackets of 10 percent and 25 percent, while lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 percent. The Joint Committee on Taxation released a report last October saying that it would be hard to reduce the corporate tax rate to anything lower than 28 percent without losing money. Ryan’s plan would also create a territorial tax system that would offer a low tax rate, if any taxes, on the profit that U.S. companies earn overseas–a page from the playbook of the Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, who introduced a similar international tax plan last fall.

“To pay for these tax cuts, Ryan says that his budget would close tax loopholes–a political dodge both parties lean on heavily when talking taxes. But for an economic nerd like Ryan, the dodge does not come across well. Which loopholes? Would it be the wildly popular mortgage-interest deduction that encourages millions of Americans to buy homes, or the tax break that goes to employers that offer health care? And which segment of the population would bear the brunt of the elimination of certain tax breaks–the middle class, the poor, or the wealthy?”

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“With the House set to engage in another vicious fight over today’s new 2013 budget proposal by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., we are witnessing once again a phenomenon that’s been apparent since the 2010 election: the tea party movement still holds the commanding heights of American politics. It is still setting the agenda for national debate. It wants what it wants. And it doesn’t much care what anyone in either the GOP or Democratic Party thinks about it…

“Fault them if you will as a band of primitivist monomaniacs, question whether they are sincere enough to surrender their own Social Security and Medicare as well as everyone else’s, but the tea partiers are not going to fade away. They clearly represent a deep and abiding — and perhaps last-ditch– movement of resistance to the indomitable tendency of American government to grow ever larger. They know that the various eruptions of conservative rebellion since the Reagan era, including the Gingrich-led takeover of the House in 1994, each amounted to little more than one step forward, two steps back. They know that George W. Bush blew the budget out entirely. And they know that none of the GOP candidates, ‘establishment’ or not, is delivering up the answer they want. Except maybe for Ron Paul, which accounts for his rise from the fringes…

“Like them or not, they’re not going away, no matter who wins in November.”

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“The reaction to Ryan’s tax plan will be the truly telling thing. He proposes to create two relatively low tax brackets but to do so in a way that achieves revenue neutrality by eliminating most deductions and exclusions. Almost certainly this will mean reducing or eliminating the mortgage-interest deduction, deductions for state and local taxes, and deductions for charitable giving. (Ramesh’s beloved child tax credit probably will survive, unfortunately.) The Committee to Reinflate the Bubble will fight tooth and talon to defend the mortgage-interest deduction, and they’ll have a great many middle-class homeowners behind them.

“Politicians in both parties (and many of my colleagues at this magazine) speak constantly of defending the interests of the middle class, but it is precisely the middle class that will have to see higher taxes or lower benefits or both if the country is to remain solvent. We could tax the rich at 100 percent and still fail to balance the budget, and the Bush tax cuts for the $200,000-and-up set are dwarfed by the Bush tax cuts for the middle class. Meanwhile, more than two-thirds of federal transfer payments go to the non-poor, mainly to the middle class. It is the middle class, not the wealthy, that enjoys relatively light taxation.

“Some generations have to storm Normandy, some have to give up tax-code housing welfare for relatively well-off homeowners. Watch your back, Mr. Chairman.”

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“I’m very supportive of the Ryan budget plan. It’s a bold and exciting effort on his part and on the part of the Republicans and it’s very much consistent with what I put out earlier. I think it’s amazing that we have a president who three and a half years in still hasn’t put a proposal out that deals with entitlements. This president’s dealing with entitlement reform — excuse me — this budget deals with entitlement reform, tax policy, which as you know is very similar to the one that I put out and efforts to reign in excessive spending. I applaud it. It’s an excellent piece of work and very much needed.”

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“‘We do believe that our nominee, whoever this person is going to be, is going to be perfectly consistent with this,’ Ryan told reporters as he unveiled his Road to Prosperity budget. ‘I’ve spoken to all of these guys – and they believe that we are heading in the right direction.’…

“‘Our nominee owes it to the country to give them a choice of two futures,’ Ryan said. ‘We’re helping him do that.’”

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Good night canopfor .

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:38 AM

You should be renamed UpperYeastside because your theories grow evermore outlandish! LOLExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:08 AM

When all fails, you turn to personal insults. Shows how unintelligent u are.

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Oh get a d*mn song.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:39 AM

When the hammer fall’s on me, would anybody here weep for my release? lol

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 21, 2012 at 12:22 AM

May it never fall on you. We don’t believe in bannings, even if we disagree with what you say, sometimes.

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

You should be renamed UpperYeastside because your theories grow evermore outlandish! LOL ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Good one!

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Once again, good luck on campaigning to turn Medicare into a coupon program.
Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM

And what’s your plan for Medicare, besides gutting it to pay for ObamaCare?

Chuck Schick on March 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

The heII you say?

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM

If I don’t head to bed the Husband is gonna start whining. Nothing worse than a whiny 50-something.
L8TR

annoyinglittletwerp on March 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

You handled that nicely..:)

PS..Now we need to discuss this Buckley Rule..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Oh get a d*mn song.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Are you sayin, lighten up francis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1GVuftrYU&feature=related

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Hear..Hear!!..It is tough becaues thre is not a lot of new stuff that I like..:)

PS..I miss the 80′s badly..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM

The heII you say?

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Bannings s/b extremely rare. It’s a sign of a free land.

PS..Now we need to discuss this Buckley Rule..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Waaaay too soon.

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I don’t know for sure but they look like a band I saw when The Husband and I went to see Brian “Head” Welch. He use to be with Korn but left when he became a Christian. I wish I could say that his music improved but it was still too much like Korn for me. But the other three or four bands opening were great.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Not you! The one you were commenting to. LOL!

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:31 AM

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You mean that “Yeast” beast? Who doesn’t know anything about Social Security or what investments are allowed? That one?

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Waaaay too soon.

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM

You are not going easy into that good night my friend..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM

That’s more like it, rare, but necessary. No not like abortion.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:52 AM

When all fails, you turn to personal insults. Shows how unintelligent u are.

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:39 AM

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I admonish you to back up a page or two and re-read your own comments insulting US at Hot Gas about the future of Social Security, our plans for Medicare which you characterized in a mean and untrue manner and any number of insulting things you type, personal and otherwise.
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You are the one who lacks intelligence and knowledge, respect and consideration; you are the least one to call anyone else “unintelligent.”

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:52 AM

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Exactly, nice close on that. It really wasn’t a fair fight. It couldn’t even pick a song. There see how that works. ; )

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

If now isn’t the time then it’s never going to happen. This is why Ryan, if there is a brokered convention, needs to be nominated (and why he let down the country by not running).

I’m a political historian finishing up my dissertation this week. I can tell you without a doubt that there have been times where the presidency has seemed to find the right person at the right time, oftentimes when it was completely unexpected and under some crazy circumstances. Men who thought it to early to consider being president became president, men who thought that they had missed their opportunity had it reappear. People who never thought they’d be president ended up finding the White House. I’m really hoping this is Ryan’s moment (or at least someone willing to lead like he has).

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

@UpperYeastSide:

You are the one who lacks intelligence and knowledge, respect and consideration; you are the least one to call anyone else “unintelligent.”

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:52 AM

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Of course, ‘you are the least one to call anyone else “unintelligent.” ‘ is an implied ellipsis meaning “least qualified one,” as you no doubt did not know or recognize. Just so that you get your insults correct next time.

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Are you sayin, lighten up francis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1GVuftrYU&feature=related

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM

LOL!

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:56 AM

May it never fall on you. We don’t believe in bannings, even if we disagree with what you say, sometimes.

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

+ One trillion, or whatever Obama has added to the national debt this year.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 12:57 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Could you comment specifically on them? You’re obviously busy this week, but if you could add a bit on this QOTD or the next one, I’d love to read your thoughts. I can’t hang around tonight, but I’ll check back tomorrow. Thanks.

INC on March 21, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

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Sorry. I should have read back a bit in the thread but my connection has been giving me fits in last few minutes.
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Thanks.

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:59 AM

So, what happened to DHChron?

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:00 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

He’s certainly an improvement over what is being offered now. I think he’s serious about fixing our problems.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Once again, good luck on campaigning to turn Medicare into a coupon program.
Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM
And what’s your plan for Medicare, besides gutting it to pay for ObamaCare?
Chuck Schick on March 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Our plan for Medicare is to reduce cost not by asking seniors or potential seniors to pay for their health care expenses using a coupon that isn’t indexed for inflation. We propose to reduce the overall cost of health care by introducing technologies like the EHR systems that will reduce provider cost which ultimately will reduce the cost we pay for health care services.
Your do nothing house should spend more time looking for ways to help providers reduce their cost instead of introducing a coupon based legislation that will never pass the senate let alone signed by the president.

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 1:04 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 21, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Yeah he is!

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Could you comment specifically on them? You’re obviously busy this week, but if you could add a bit on this QOTD or the next one, I’d love to read your thoughts. I can’t hang around tonight, but I’ll check back tomorrow. Thanks.

INC on March 21, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Gladly, I love talking about this stuff and just drinking a bottle of wine trying to figure out how to write my intro (which I wrote last). I’ll have something up in the next 5 to 10.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Thanks.

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 12:59 AM

No worries, I just didn’t want to have to chase you down somewhere later to apologize and explain. Oh look your little friend is back. : 0

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Didn’t Buckley vote for barry?

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 12:45 AM

Hey Cindy, I haven’t talked to you for a long time, I’ve been pretty hit and miss. Is the pup better? That video – spicy!

80′s by request. Here you go Dire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9PAuWV-Vn0&feature=fvsr

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Gladly, I love talking about this stuff and just drinking a bottle of wine trying to figure out how to write my intro (which I wrote last). I’ll have something up in the next 5 to 10.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Good boy or girl, whatever the case. Wine always helps me collect my thoughts as well. Some thoughts are better than others.

arnold ziffel on March 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 21, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Yeah he is!

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:06 AM

I would shave my head for you gals. I would polish it too. hehe (:

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Why, we can’t ban you!

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:12 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

So far so good, spent way to much money for good news that didn’t include the words “you’ve won the lottery”!

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Oh look your little friend is back. : 0

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:09 AM

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Yep, I noticed that and I’m really thinking about whether I ought to start in on the insults first, the lack of medical systems knowledge first or the regulatory behemoth requirements first. Such a target rich environment, Yeast is, ya know?

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:15 AM

80′s by request. Here you go Dire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9PAuWV-Vn0&feature=fvsr

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Very good. First two comments under the clip were about having sex with Karen. Made me laugh as that is my wife’s name but I had never heard of Bryan Ferry before tonight. Good selection. You know your stuff.

arnold ziffel on March 21, 2012 at 1:15 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Thanks! I love history. I’m always glad to learn some more and discuss it.

(Intros can be tough. They set the stage.).

INC on March 21, 2012 at 1:16 AM

When all fails, you turn to personal insults. Shows how unintelligent u are.

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Wow! It’s taking me a couple of hours to catch up with today’s threads…but who’s this UpperYeastHead calling ExpressoBold unintelligent? Everything I’ve been reading from UpperYeastHead made me think of Quasimodo… talking to the ‘Bells’ in the Hunchback Of Notre Dame.

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:16 AM

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Why, we can’t ban you!

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Ok if you get banned (like that’s going to happen) I will shave my head in protest. Of course no one will know so you will have to take my word for it, which is not a good idea since I can’t be trusted. (:

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:19 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:16 AM

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Have you thought about Yeast’s last comment yet? It’s a regular liberal smorgasbord, I tells ya!

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Dadgum it! Too much “ish” happening this week. I’m always missing some-dagum-thing. Predator’s back??? Can’t imagine him booted; don’t know when and why!

Anyhoo. Andy Warhol was shot & he came back, so along with me he just wants to tell predator ‘Hello Again‘.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 21, 2012 at 1:20 AM

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM

…how’s your knees? (:>) You still didn’t answer me about what to get you for your birthday..a prayer rug for all the adulation…or knee pads (for whatever) (:>)

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:21 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Good choice..:)

PS..Try this one out..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 1:04 AM

potential seniors“??? I guess that death panel clause is still hanging on…

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:27 AM

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Nooooooooooooo! I think that one caught something from a Sandra Fluke type…and in the later stages of that disease, it’s like a debilitating type of insanity…which explains his comments!
Too late for penicillin!

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:27 AM

arnold ziffel on March 21, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Thx, I like the QOTD, I like taking a break from the battle. I usually miss most of the drama- Mountain time zone and all.

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Presidents where the presidency came later than expected, but it was the right time:

Andrew Jackson: wins the electoral majority in 1824, but loses the presidency to John Quincy Adams, who uses the four years in office to help foster the underpinnings of capitalism by promoting interstate roads, canals, etc (of course the commerce clause is now used to do anything, but in JQA’s time it was used for the right reasons in my opinion). In 1828 he runs again, wins, sets the foundation of American democracy. The extra four years he waited allows both to thrive (he wouldn’t have done what Q did).

Reagan: almost gets the nomination in 1968, then almost gets the nomination in 1976. Finally gets the nomination in 1980 where he comes into office with Margaret Thatcher serving as Prime Minister of England (1979), and John Paul II serving as pope (1978) with a USSR that is teetering, allowing him the perfect opportunity to promote the end of the cold war.

Presidents where it came early:

Polk: wins by the slightest of victories, both at the convention, where he beat former president Van Buren for the nomination, then beat Henry Clay, who was beloved (and I think would have been a fine president), in one of the closest elections in American history. He launched the Mexican American War, which I understand is controversial, but that’s for a different time. If you’re living in the Southwest, you’re American because of Polk.

Abe Lincoln: enough said.

Bill Clinton: I’m sure I’ll get hammered on some commenters for this, but I think Clinton was a fairly good president and I’ll explain. The only reason he was nominated is because Mario Cuomo chickened out. The only reason he became president was because Ross Perot ran third party. Yet, he’s the only president to have balanced the budget, thanks to Newt. People might want to give all the credit to Newt, but I can tell you that a lot of presidents wouldn’t have worked with him, including the current one. Clinton showed that presidents can get big things done in the modern era. Without welfare reform, does Paul Ryan even propose changing Medicare? We get mad when Republicans act like Democrats, we should give credit where it’s due when Democrats act like Republicans.

President’s who didn’t seek it, but circumstances put him in anyway.

George Washington: enough said.

Millard Fillmore: Completely underrated president. He basically prevented the Civil War from happening at a time where North America would have devolved into at least two if not three or four nations. Only becomes president because Zach Taylor, who was a horrible president and who I compared Obama too in an American Thinker article, was an idiot and drank bad milk and contaminated cherries while watching the Washington Monument be built…after being told not to drink the milk or eat the cherries.

Coolidge only became president because of a brain aneurysm that Harding had, ended up being one of the best fiscal presidents we’ve had.

LBJ; I’m torn here. Him becoming president enacted civil rights (a southerner had to do it) . Him winning a second term put us on the current death spiral we’re currently in. So I guess put an asterisk here. I do think Goldwater would have beaten Kennedy and probably enacted civil rights, just a lot differently, so we probably end up worse on that one, but who knows for sure.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Who said they had never heard of Ferry. Try this one. Silky smooth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU2qGgYDf2Q

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:33 AM

…how’s your knees? (:>) You still didn’t answer me about what to get you for your birthday..a prayer rug for all the adulation…or knee pads (for whatever) (:>)

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Ha you laugh. I am accumulating valuable brownie points which can be dolled out to my peeps or sold to the highest bidder. What if I got tourette’s syndrome and started swearing at Trolls like a madcon? The hammer would fall on me. But since I have a get out of jail free card I will be OK. (:

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:33 AM

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Total baloney. It’s just like “green energy” – you think because you WISH something would happen and be cost-effective, it will.

Adjoran on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

When the hammer fall’s on me, would anybody here weep for my release? lol

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 21, 2012 at 12:22 AM

May it never fall on you. We don’t believe in bannings, even if we disagree with what you say, sometimes.

Schadenfreude on March 21, 2012 at 12:40 AM

…he’s an azz…but, he’s OUR azz!

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Didn’t read the entire thread so I may be repeating something here.

Does it bother anyone that Ryan’s budget does not limit itself to revenue in? While I appreciate greatly his reform efforts, continuing to borrow means no reform will ever materialize. Assuming for a moment that there is no event horizon beyond which the debt amount truly becomes insurmountable, why would any sane voter agree to pay interest amounts for nothing (beyond paying down debt) when paying just about the same interest payments can be hooked up with benefit programs?

Even if it was enacted, the life expectancy of Ryan’s budget reforms is about two years. Then it is back to “free” benefits.

This is why the debt ceiling should not have been raised in spring 2011. The showdown should have happened because Jugears could not have won a war of words with the tea parties. But Boneless Boehner wussed out and gave up all the money Jugears demanded.

Ryan needs to ‘fess up that nothing will change until the GOP leadership is thrown out of the House and replaced with warriors who will die rather than submit.

Forget the presidency – take over the Congress in November.

platypus on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Last one for me tonight, nite guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJefPK_UkdM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Actually I have made some posts that got caught in the modulators filter. But it could have been a giltch.

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:35 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Thanks for putting that list together! At first read, my biggest disagreement is on LBJ re: The Great Society and micromanaging Vietnam. More later—I’ve got to run! Thanks again.

INC on March 21, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Thanks! I love history. I’m always glad to learn some more and discuss it.

(Intros can be tough. They set the stage.).

INC on March 21, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Tell me about it on the intro, I keep going back and saying to myself, now what exactly did I say? Thanks for expressing interest. I love talking about history, especially as it relates to today’s politics.

Should have noted that Clinton is the only president to have a balanced budget in most of our lifetimes. Not ever.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Romney now at 91.9% at Intrade.
Santorum at 1.5%.
Gingrich at .4%.

Something kind of hints to me that we have a frontrunner.

VorDaj on March 21, 2012 at 1:36 AM

I think that one caught something from a Sandra Fluke type…

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:27 AM

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LOL !!!!!!
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To me, Yeast just goes on and on like every other committed liberal, not so disease-infected as just ignorant and naive of real life. Yeast has yet to mention HIPPA regulations, software interfaces, fraud, regulatory adventurism, reliability of Federal standards, availability of records and logical subsets of records, implementation costs, transfer of current data and “The Doc Fix.” Doctors are not required to participate in Medicare. Medicare pays about 10% of what normal fees are yet regulatory cost savings are always just around the corner. Government cannot run a profit-making enterprise as every entity from the Post Office to the taxpayer-dependent GSE’s demonstrate.
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Ignorant, just ignorant.

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Forget the presidency – take over the Congress in November.

platypus on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

I don’t know about you, but the idea of Obama getting to pick two to three more judges to the Supreme Court is enough to make me vote and fight for whomever becomes the GOP nominee. Obama winning re-election validates what he’s done.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:38 AM

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 1:33 AM

…I lol (:>) every time I see it Sparky! (:>)

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Paul Ryan
I want to believe, I really do. It represents the most honest assessment I’ve heard in a long time. Trouble is he helped us get here. AS did the GOP.
WaPoEditorial Board,
The reason I’m having trouble is not because of the partisan hacks at WaPo. They have no credibility in the discussion. IMHO They are the mouth piece for the Democrat Party the party for a large Socialism Government. Their very headline reeks of their hackery.
Seung Min Kim
Another source with questionable cred. I want the Dems kept in a position of weakness where all they have to offer is that which they excell at. Tearing down. They suck at building. They just slap it up as big as they can. Doomed to fall and fail. History proves this.
Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake
Well looky, looky a double edged hatchet. WaPo you are consistent. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. How original. It took the two of you to come up with this narrative. Pigs get better slop. No offense arnold.
Nancy Cook
All I can tell you is, at least its a start, at least he has a plan. Unlike 0 and the Dems. Remind me again how many days its been budget wise.
Michael Hirsh
Hold it right there Mister. I thought we were all dead. Well he was off to a good start anyway. Sure W and the R Congress spent too much. We were attacked and some money had to be spent. W with the dishonest Dems spent more. You know compromise and such. But let there be no doubt who busted the bank wide open. Good to know I’m not dead by the way.
Kevin D. Williamson
This is gonna hurt a little, make that a lot. Yeah I’m so happy I invested in SS for 30 years at $14,000.00 a year. Nice knowing it isn’t going to bring a return. Thanks guys, you did a heck of a job with my dough./ You Betcha!
ALEXANDER BURNS
See here’s the thing, I hate debt almost as much as I hate being pandered to. Well of course you support this Rmoney. I would expect nothing less during an election year. Cause you know as a Conservative the hard part is telling folks you aren’t giving em stuff. You have come to take it away. You will be a one termer just like 0. Maybe its what we need. Cause God knows deserve has nothing to do with it.
Jonathan Karl
“Road to Prosperity budget.” Lately this has been the road less traveled. Me thinks that will be the central issue. Other narratives need not apply.
Video 1 I want to believe. He comports himself well. He states clearly the task at hand. He contrast the two versions beautifully. He is after 0. Has been since the early budget meeting where 0 tried to show him up. I want so much to have someone of his capability’s in power to turn the screws, to man the oars and to take the helm. Can it be he is the one to handle it? Time, and we don’t have much. Two futures is incorrect. One future or no future is correct.
Video 2 Fundamental transformation drivel. Lies. You folks could have turned spending around. You chose not to. Instead you spent more like the mad crazy drunk with power socialist you are. Your goals have been know from the get go. Unfortunately by to few. November can’t come soon enough. If we fail, we fail. You and yours are no help to save us.
Audio The Great One! Great interview. Ryan is spot on. Maybe there is hope for him yet. I know what votes he’s taken and why. Getting this plan together does just the opposite of what the Dems believe it will do. If it is a wedge, it will work in our favor because he can explain it in a reasoned way Something 0 will never be able to do. Even with a teleprompter. Go Ryan. If Rmoney does become the nom, please don’t waste this fellow in the VP slot.

Sum up
They are desparate. The press and the Dems are now one in the same. All they can do is sling mud and sh*t like monkeys in a cage. Notice how they only sling it our direction. Sound of crickets for 0. Truely a miserable lot. I hope they fail and go broke. Who needs to read they’re venom fill article anyway. Banish them all. Say what you will about Ryan but he must be over the target. You don’t catch flak like this unless you are. The friendly fire doesn’t help much either. Oh and as far as No pain, no gain. Oh there will be pain. No way around it. Either control the collapse or just let it fails under its own weight. Our choice.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Dang that was a lot of reading. I need a song.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Uppereastside on March 21, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Your proposal will amount to little more than a rounding error.

What else you got?

blink on March 21, 2012 at 1:37 AM

…beside the Yeast infection?…I think
Hemmorids! (These people, I’ve noticed always hit and run…so they must be sitting somewhere, for some reason!)

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:40 AMBmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Try this..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Say what you will about Ryan but he must be over the target. You don’t catch flak like this unless you are. The friendly fire doesn’t help much either. Oh and as far as No pain, no gain. Oh there will be pain. No way around it. Either control the collapse or just let it fails under its own weight. Our choice.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Spot on. I know liberals working for Democrats on the HIll who’ve told me point blank that they’re worried for both the country and their party that Democrats aren’t engaged on the issue of our generation.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Enjoyed it madame..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:46 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Nice entry, I’m not even going to take you to task over the Clinton part. He did sign the thing. Willing or not can be debated, but he did sign it. LBJ I can’t give him a pass on any of it, his policy’s affected us in a negative and destructive way the likes of which we still live with today. Entire generations of folks have been lost because of the failed philosophical polices he helped implement. Not to mention his handling of Nam. But it is to late to debate for me this evening. And we agree on more I suspect then we disagree on. How are you at posting a tune?

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM

Try this..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM

Nice. She has a heII of a pair of cheekbones. Nice feature.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Police have house surrounded in France. Killer linked to extreme Islamic group believed to be inside
Posted at 12:27 am on March 21, 2012 by Twitchy Staff

VorDaj on March 21, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Here ya go, Dire…

Thumpin’ the nite away

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:27 AM

You still around??..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:50 AM

..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:56 AM

arnold ziffel, Cuz…

Bryan Ferry = Roxy Music

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Enjoyed it madame..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Madame! that makes me sound o l d. and I do not have a gaggle of ladies of the night :) that would make me the SSSSSSSSSSSSSS word.
I don’t need a sarc tag do I?

Where have all the Cowboys gone?

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:39 AM

.
Comprehensive! Good thinking!

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:57 AM

My bestest buddy lives in CFalls…

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:59 AM

arnold ziffel on March 20, 2012 at 11:40 PM

He’d be in HA LimboGitmo if that were the case.; )

Bmore on March 20, 2012 at 11:42 PM

…with all the religious bigotry from the trolls…I prefer to refer to ‘it’…as Purgatory.

Time for me to hit the hay…enjoy your music!

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:59 AM

Dire my friend, it was a good day all in all. We got predator back in the house. I didn’t get the hammer. Though I am missing several comments. Our supreme daytime leader put up with my antics very well indeed. Only one email did I receive. A frank and stern warning. Ah well still here for now. Thinking about giving up hunting and concentrating on other things. What do you think Dire? Time to leave the trolls alone? Say, how do feel about helping out on the waterboard deal at HALimboGitmo. You know just for the jailbirds hygiene and such. I sure could use a hand with it. Well think about it anyway. ; )

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:01 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 21, 2012 at 1:59 AM

Night Kool, you be careful, ole you know who might get cranky at ya.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:02 AM

MontanaMmmm on March 21, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Sorry..I didn’t mean to disrespect you in the least..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Here is a tune.

Tori Amos – Cornflake Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eiv7H9XQRY&feature=related

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Comprehensive! Good thinking!

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Thought farts at best. But thanks.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:03 AM

. LBJ I can’t give him a pass on any of it, his policy’s affected us in a negative and destructive way the likes of which we still live with today. Entire generations of folks have been lost because of the failed philosophical polices he helped implement. Not to mention his handling of Nam. But it is to late to debate for me this evening. And we agree on more I suspect then we disagree on. How are you at posting a tune?

This we agree on. I think civil rights makes him go from awful to just below “meh.”

Tunes: Is it too late for Ted Nugent and Meatloaf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c2OM7HEfrs

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Oh crap, this could be fun. At least you didn’t make my mistake and say Ma’am. LOL!

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Gohawgs on March 21, 2012 at 1:55 AM

She does a pretty good job singing backup on a classic..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:05 AM

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Never too late.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Hold it. A QOTD that ain’t about Romney? WTF?

Lanceman on March 21, 2012 at 2:06 AM

She does a pretty good job singing backup on a classic..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Nice catch there Dire.

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Cindy, are you really worried about being banned?

blink on March 21, 2012 at 1:23 AM

LOL! If boring people to death becomes a bannable (is that a word?) offense, I’m the first one gone. I was just teasing SparkPlug about his sucking up to people.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 2:07 AM

piece out ….

ExpressoBold on March 21, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Enjoyed it madam..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 1:46 AM

fixed..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Hold it. A QOTD that ain’t about Romney? WTF?

Lanceman on March 21, 2012 at 2:06 AM

I know, nice huh?

Bmore on March 21, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2012 at 2:07 AM

Your husband ‘liked’ one of my comments the other night on HARP.

Lanceman on March 21, 2012 at 2:09 AM

SparkPlug on March 21, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Catchy tune..I dig the red hair too..:)

Dire Straits on March 21, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Of course I posted the wrong link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvtv-YJtSSk

So I guess I’m not that great at it.

cpaulus on March 21, 2012 at 2:10 AM

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