Biden: OBL raid most audacious military plan in 500 years

posted at 9:50 am on March 20, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Just imagine how much unexpected fun it must be to cover Vice President Joe Biden.  Normally, reporters who get stuck with the Veep end up enduring dry, meaningless speeches and endless funerals.  With Sheriff Joe, though, reporters assigned to the beat get to break stories like this:

Vice President Joseph Biden on Monday night upped the ante around the already quite-dramatic assassination of Osama bin Laden.

From the pool report of Biden’s comments during a fundraising event in New Jersey come these quotes.

“You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan. Never knowing for certain. We never had more than a 48 percent probability that he was there.”

Er … what?  I won’t take anything away from the call to hit the Abbottabad compound; there were genuine political risks in play for President Obama, and no guarantee of success.  However, only someone with complete ignorance of military history could call a green light on a mission with a 48% chance of success the most audacious plan in the last 500 years.  Here are a few from just off the top of my head:

  • Guadalcanal
  • Raid on Tokyo
  • Battle of Cowpens
  • Dunkirk
  • Bunker Hill
  • Agincourt, if one is willing to go back 600 years or so

The true award winner in this category is the D-Day invasion of June 1944 of Fortress Europe by Dwight Eisenhower.  It took months to lay a trap of misdirection for the Nazis, a trap that Eisenhower couldn’t have known for certain had sprung until his troops hit the beaches.  It took a massive effort to build and train his armies not just for the landings, but also to get materiel on shore and push off the beachheads into the hedgerows, and this against the mightiest military force on the continent.  Few know the context of the D-Day decision and its precursor in the embarrassing failure at Dieppe in 1942, and the real risks of failure — certainly higher than 52%.

Not even the Huffington Post could give Biden a pass on this wildly irresponsible claim:

Without taking anything away from the quite dangerous raid to get bin Laden, there are other commander-in-chief calls that could compete for historical audaciousness.

Ronald Reagan’s raid on Grenada might even best Abbottabad, given the circumstances of protecting American citizens from hostile Cuban forces on the island, and was just as politically fraught, although not as meaningful in the annals of the Cold War as getting OBL was in the War on Terror.  Obama made a good call in tough circumstances on the bin Laden raid, but that hardly makes him the greatest military genius since Admiral Nelson.  This administration needs to get a grip.


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While not a raid or operation, in terms of ‘audacious,’ how about Colonel Chamberlain’s order to fix bayonets at the Battle of Little Roundtop? You could also talk about 1LT Adam Slemmer, commanding a skeleton crew of 80, facing off against 3,000 Confederates while holed up in Fort Pickens from January to April 1861 – including the Colonel who oversaw the building of the fort.

Or you could look to the Gran Sasso operation to rescue Moussolini from a mountaintop resort villa using crash- landed paragliders.

Lots of examples of how Biden has denigrated the service and sacrifice of a lot of good people. Hope they keep him on the ticket!

Right on March 20, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Doolittle’s raiders –

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid

Step 1)

Strip amost all armor off of a bomber.

Step 2)

Make it into a flying gas-tank

Step 3)

Launch it off of a aircraft carrier

Step 4)

Bomb Tokyo

Step 5)

Hope that you survive when you crash land in China and the Chinese don’t shoot you.

Green_Bay_Packers on March 20, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Addendum to step three: The carriers don’t get discovered too early and you have to launch so far out that don’t have enough fuel to make it to friendly lines.

Hope that you survive when you crash land in China and the Chinese don’t shoot you Japanese behead you.

Green_Bay_Packers on March 20, 2012 at 1:57 PM

It needed a little work.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

oh, Biden, Biden, the awesomest military plan in 500 years… bless his heart, free comic relief…wonder if he ever considered a stand up comedy…am sure there would plenty offers for a gig..

jimver on March 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I thought that it was Panetta who made the decision to hit OBL while Obama could not decide whether to fish or cut bait. So I’m not particularly willing to give Obama credit for the OBL raid to begin with, much less compared to 500 years of history that includes every battle that helped found this country.

AnotherOpinion on March 20, 2012 at 2:12 PM

You know, Valerie J. is Iranian right?

askwhatif on March 20, 2012 at 10:21 AM

come on, now, the woman is a patented idiot, but Iranian she is not. Her parents (who are Americans btw) were in Iran at the time she was born, her father was a doctor and I think she was working for USAID or one of those US development agencies…they also moved to London for a while after they lived in Iran…

jimver on March 20, 2012 at 2:14 PM

‘he was working’…that is..

jimver on March 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Jimmy Carter’s attempt to end the Iranian hostage situation with a secret raid was audacious. It was a disaster, but it was a gutsy move.

David Blue on March 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Biden: OBL raid most audacious military plan in 500 years

Yeah, i mean it was NOTHING like the whole Invasion of Normandy and the Rangers going up the cliffs, right Mr. Vice President? I mean, the entire *operation * pinned on the Allies carrying out a massive seaborne landing on a occupied country coastline

Say what you want about Obama, but cripes, *this* guy is Vice President?

BlaxPac on March 20, 2012 at 2:26 PM

How’s this for audacity: The Battle off Samar, Oct 25, 1944. This was the final action in the Battle of Leyte Gulf

American Task for Taffy 3 was attacked by a Japanese fleet of 12 battleships and cruisers centered around the super-battleship Yamato, with eleven escorting destroyers. Taffy 3 consisted of six “Jeep” carriers (CVEs) and their escorts, which were 3 destroyers and 4 destroyer escorts.

The American DDs and DEs charged the Japanese fleet in an attempt to allow the CVEs to escape, supported by the aircraft of the task force. To illustrate how lopsided this fight was, not only were the American’s out numbered but each turret on the Yamato outweighed any of the American vessels. Also the planes of Taffy 3 were outfitted for close air support, not anti-shipping duty so they had no armor piercing bombs to use on the Japanese capital ships.

After two hours, the Japanese broke off. One CVE, two DDs and one DE were lost on the American side, with a second CVE lost to kamikazes, this day also marking the beginning of kamikaze attacks. The Japanese lost three heavy cruisers. The reason for the Japanese retreat has never been fully explained, but in one interview long after the war, ADM Kurita, the Japanese Commander, said that he didn’t wish to waste the lives of his men in what he thought was a futile action.

Of additional note, October 25th is also the date of Agincourt and the Charge of the Light Brigade.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

I agree. It took Bush 7 years and he still couldn’t get Osama

liberal4life on March 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM

And if President Obama *hesitated* on following through on a obvious “terminate” target like OBL, we might have still been looking for him.

I’m sure the blogsphere gave the President credit when it was due…can *you* explain why he couldn’t do the same? I sure as heck don’t remember President Obama give President Bush any reciprocating courtesy..

BlaxPac on March 20, 2012 at 2:32 PM

How’s this for audacity: The Battle off Samar, Oct 25, 1944. This was the final action in the Battle of Leyte Gulf

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Uncommon valor was common then.

What else were they going to do?

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Is Joe Biden ignorant? I wish I believed that he is in fact ignorant. He is not just uninformed he is the hight of stupidy. Never in my lifetime (1947) have I seen such a truly dumb person in office as Biden. This man is a disgrace to the office of VP.

TomLawler on March 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Uncommon valor was common then.

What else were they going to do?

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 2:35 PM

True, however Taffy-3′s attack was so audacious that Kurita at one point thought he was actually fighting Halsey’s Third Fleet, rather than a group of CVEs.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I’m not taking anything away from what Taffy 3 accomplished, but it says more about Kurita, and the entire Japanese navy during the battle of leyte Gulf, than the entire compliment of Taffy 3. They had to protect those transports and they did in the only way they could.

Compare the battle of Leyte Gulf to the early battles off Guadalcanal to see a complete reversal of roles between two navy’s.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Oh, let’s see… The Entebbe raid. Ross Perot’s rescue of his employees held hostage in Iran. The Dolittle Raid, noted above. Operation Market-Garden. James Earl Rudder and his Army Rangers scaling the cliffs at Pointe du Hoc on D-Day. The Dam Busters raid. Schweinfurt. Gallipoli (disastrous, but audacious). Likewise, the Charge of the Light Brigade. Holland’s submarine attacks during the Revolutionary war. Not to mention Agincourt, Crecy, Hastings, the Hot Gates….

skydaddy on March 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Of additional note, October 25th is also the date of Agincourt and the Charge of the Light Brigade.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Not sure I’d categorize the Charge of the Light Brigade as an audacious military action…more like an unmitigated military disaster which wasn’t planned and served no purpose whatsoever.

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Holland’s submarine attacks during the Revolutionary war.
skydaddy on March 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM</blockquote

How 'bout Bushnell? Holland was 100+ years later.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 4:03 PM

What about the Rebel attack on Endor, especially Lando flying into the heart of the Death Star.

Audacious….even moreso because “its a trap”.

BobMbx on March 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM

True, however Taffy-3′s attack was so audacious that Kurita at one point thought he was actually fighting Halsey’s Third Fleet, rather than a group of CVEs.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

He knew Halsey was around, but since he didn’t know exactly where Halsey was, it has been theorized this led Kurita to haul ass before Halsey bushwhacked him.

BTW, Nimitz nearly fired Halsey over that engagement. Probably should have, too.

BobMbx on March 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

My list:

Rogers’ Raids in the French and Indian Wars,

Trenton and Princeton(Washington’s masterpiece)

Scott’s March on Mexico City in 1847 (cut ties to the coast and marched inland)

Grant’s Vicksburg Campaign (add Grierson’s Raid through Mississippi as well)

The Evacuation from Gallipoli (in contrast to 8 months of bloody murder, not a man lost in the departure)

August 8/1918 – UK, ANZAC and Canadian attacks on Germans at Amiens, Beersheeba 1918,

Doolittle Raid

Breaking the Engima Code and the Purple Codes.

Everything Slim’s 14th Army did in Burma

Everything Patton’s 3rd Army did in France and Germany (running around German flank in Normandy, stopping and turning 90 degrees on short notice in the Ardennes, and crossing the Rhine under the Germans’ noses),

Entebbe (the greatest hostage rescue in world history – they said it couldn’t be done, but they did it),

October 2001 Coalition entry into Afghanistan – Green Berets on horseback routed the Taliban for one American dead, then the Marines flying from ships in the Arabian Gulf over the mountains to Camp Rhino. I wanted the whole 82nd Airborne with British, French, Canadian, etc paratroops attached to jump in a single drop but oh well.

Operation Neptune Spear: Bin Laden did his very, very best to remain hidden, but we didn’t give up on him for a second. Well done to Seal Team Six.

KillerKane on March 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Not sure I’d categorize the Charge of the Light Brigade as an audacious military action…more like an unmitigated military disaster which wasn’t planned and served no purpose whatsoever.

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM

There’s plenty of blame that can, and has, been heaped on Lord Cardigan and company for command decisions at Balaclava; but does their error take away from the bravery of the 600 who charged the guns, storm’d at with shot and shell? Alfred Lord Tennyson didn’t think so, nor did Kipling when he needed to chastise a complacent England.

The Last of the Light Brigade

What I find interesting is that on the same day over the course of 600 years you find three actions which pit a small force versus a force which should annihilate them. I think it would be nice if Taffy-3 could gain the same recognition that Shakespeare’s Band of Brothers and Tennyson’s 600 have.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I don’t know about you.. but Biden has an awesome tan in that picture

Opinionnation on March 20, 2012 at 4:34 PM

He knew Halsey was around, but since he didn’t know exactly where Halsey was, it has been theorized this led Kurita to haul ass before Halsey bushwhacked him.

BTW, Nimitz nearly fired Halsey over that engagement. Probably should have, too.

BobMbx on March 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

It didn’t help that Kurita had Dengene fever and had his flagship shot out from under him by Enterprise‘s air wing the day before.

Kurita drew a lot of heat for saving his command from IJN higher ups. He spent the rest of the war commanding the IJN Naval Academy, just outside of Nagasaki.

Nimitz sent Halsy a message about whether or not he’d covered 7th fleets flank. Messages had pieces of fluff at the beginning and end to make it harder for the enemy to decode. This fluff was supposed to be left out when the message was delivered, in this case the trailing fluff wasn’t. So the message Halsey received said “Where is TF 34. The world wonders.” A reference to the Charge of the Light Brigade.

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 4:38 PM

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I’d never dream of taking anything away from the bravery of the soldiers of the Light Brigade, nor from Lord Cardigan who led the charge from the front and who survived. The blame rests with Lord Raglan and mostly with Lord Lucan who misinterpreted Raglan’s orders and ordered the charge. The point is that the whole thing was a mistake created by miscommunication and misunderstanding of orders, it was never intended to happen and never should have happened. But again, the bravery of the soldiers involved is indisputable.

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Here dumba$$ me thought the invasion of Europe was the most audacious military plan ever hatched.

MJZZZ on March 20, 2012 at 4:52 PM

If you want audacious, you might consider Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor or Lee’s infantry assault on Cemetery Ridge. Fateful decisions, both, but most audacious.

SukieTawdry on March 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM

More on the Entebbe Raid. As wiki tells us:

UN Secretary General Kurt Waldheim described the raid as “a serious violation of the national sovereignty of a United Nations member state”

-snip-

The Arab and Communist world condemned the operation calling it an act of aggression.

-snip-

For refusing to depart (and subsequently leave some of his passengers as hostages) when given leave to do so by the hijackers, Captain Bacos was reprimanded by his superiors at Air France and suspended from duty for a period.

Captain Bacos was later awarded the National Order of the Legion of Honour, the highest decoration in France, and the other crew members were awarded the French Order of Merit.

-snip-

Idi Amin ordered the killing of hundreds of Kenyans living in Uganda in retaliation for Kenya’s assistance to Israel in the raid.

-snip-

Dora Bloch, a 75-year-old British Jewish immigrant, had been taken to Mulago Hospital in Kampala, and was killed by officers of the Ugandan army, as were some of her doctors and nurses for apparently trying to intervene.

Del Dolemonte on March 20, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Del Dolemonte: you forgot one. For the movie, they got Charles Bronson to take down the terrorists at Entebbe.

KillerKane on March 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Nonsense, Joe. The odds were clearly 49.7 percent that OBL was there. Maybe even 49.7755364.

Colony14 on March 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Yeah, Joe, what about the invasion of Normandy on June 6, 1944? Remember how FDR narrated the whole thing as it was broadcast live on color television? And then when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor…

Colony14 on March 20, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I am still trying to figure out why the Dems think Obama was so “courageous” in ordering the raid:

General: Uh, excuse me, Mr. President, but we found Osama bin Laden. What should we do?

Obama: Oh, I dunno, he’s been through a lot these last 10 years… why not just leave him be?

Hillary Clinton: I think perhaps it would be a good idea for us to go after him.

Obama: Are you sure?

David Axelrod: It will boost your poll numbers.

Obama: Why didn’t you say so? Go take care of it, and somebody write something for me to say that makes me look courageous.

Colony14 on March 20, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Biden also said, “Do any one of you have a doubt that if that raid failed that this guy would be a one-term president? This guy is willing to do the right thing and risk losing.” Biden was implying that the only thing that will help Obama get reelected is the fact that a team of Navy SEALs got Osama bin Laden—which says little of Biden’s confidence in Obama’s other accomplishments.

Additionally, the premise that Obama’s decision to go after bin Laden was somehow courageous is nonsense. What other option did Obama have? Granted, there was a possibility that the mission could have failed, but who could possibly believe that there could have been a decision not to go after bin Laden? That would have created a nationwide fury and calls for Obama’s impeachment.

Colony14 on March 20, 2012 at 5:46 PM

The good thing is that the Dems would have to run that tard Biden… the bad thing is that 0 would have to win this time…

John_G on March 20, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Del Dolemonte: you forgot one. For the movie, they got Charles Bronson to take down the terrorists at Entebbe.

KillerKane on March 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Well, yes and no…Bronson played General Dan Shomron in the film, and he was the leader of the ground force, but I don’t recall him actually killing any of the bad guys with his bare hands (like O’bama and Uncle Joe here did with bin Laden).

Earlier in this thread I posted the youtube link to the entire film. That’s about the only way one can view it these days.

Some other notables in the cast of that film: Peter Finch played Yitzhak Rabin, the immortal Tige Andrews (best known from “The Mod Squad”) as Shimon Peres, and there was even a rather young James Woods, who would later gain notoriety for ending up on a flight from Boston to LA a month before 9/11 along with 2 of the hijackers, who were making a dry run.

Del Dolemonte on March 20, 2012 at 5:54 PM

kenashimame on March 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

OMG! Somebody actually knows about Samar!

The coolest part of this campaign was the damage that the U.S. Navy destroyers inflicted on the Japanese ships, some at nearly point blank range. Although only 5″ guns (5 pair per ship), they were much more accurate than the large guns of the Japanese heavy cruisers and single battleship through the implementation of a radar enabled fire control system. The U.S. Navy gunners were able to score more hits, although with less than knockout power.

There was at least one Medal of Honor recipient, a Naval Academy graduate and American Indian, commanding one of the destroyers.

The actions of the Navy pilots were heroic, often diving at Japanese ships without ammunition, bombs or torpedoes, to draw attention away from the carrier group.

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM

The Bay of Pigs was pretty audacious. Especially when you didn’t know whether your old man’s Syndicate friends had taken out Fidel Castro.

Labamigo on March 20, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 20, 2012 at 5:54 PM

C’mon man, you cannot leave out the one performer even I can remember after only seeing it once, when it first aired.
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Yaphet Kotto as Idi Amin. 35 years later and I still think he was a better Idi Amin than Idi Amin. It really screwed up my experience seeing Idi Amin in Alien. Just to connect this to another current thread.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 6:02 PM

OMG! Somebody actually knows about Samar!

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Lots of us do. A main reason for the differences in damage was that the big guns of the Japanese could not depress enough to hit the smaller ships and their armor piercing shells went right through the lightly armored American ships without exploding.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Who can forget, to borrow Hornfischer’s classic title, The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors – the Battle off Samar. Admiral Clifton Sprague calmly responds to the approach of a Japanese battleship squadron, the Yamato in the lead, towards his CVEs and destroyer escorts. Despite near impossible odds, his brave ships and sailors managed to convince the enemy that they were outnumbered. Who can forget the USS Samuel B. Roberts, the ‘destroyer escort that fought like a battleship.’ Its heroic captain Robert J. Evans received a posthumous Medal of Honor that day. I’m amazed that Sprague didn’t get one too, seeing how he saved the Allied cause in the Pacific from certain disaster.

I’d also put the Battle of Surigao Straits the day before – Admiral Oldendorf’s 6 battleships (some sunk at Pearl Harbor) 8 cruisers, and many destroyers and PT boats use a Japanese battleship squadron for target practice. The sole surviving enemy ship, the Shigure, had the interesting distinction of having been in that situation twice before. Yikes.

I knew watching “Victory at Sea” would pay off.

KillerKane on March 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I recommend: The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors: The Extraordinary World War II Story of the U.S. Navy’s Finest Hour by James D. Hornfischer. Awesome.

Isn’t there a Samar Memorial at the military cemetery in San Diego?

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM

KillerKane on March 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

I was busy searching for the title.

Yeah, Battle of Surigao Straits was well-described in Hornfischer’s book. Tactically, not a good move for the enemy to try to run a battle group through narrow and shallow water.

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM

OMG! Somebody actually knows about Samar!

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM

One of the coolest things about this thread has been reading intelligent people commenting on their deep understanding of history and the role and impact of the players on the scene…whether it be about Samar, battles of the War of Independence and the Civil War, the World Wars, Korea, or in my case the Napoloenic Wars. People who’ve taken the time to study and learn about what happened.

Can you imagine a similar thread on a leftie site? OMG! It’s like totally awesome, like they made a movie about it and stuff! It had like Brad Pitt in it and he’s like totally dreamy…and he’s a vegan! So anyway, anyway…there was like this war, and it’s like totally gross and stuff, but like the oppressed Chinese…no wait, Korean…no wait…it was like some totally asian people, they like got all oppressed and stuff by Amerika and like Hitler was the only one who stood up to them ‘cos like the Jooooos were like totally mean and stuff so like the Germans like HAD to bomb San Diego and stuff to stop facist Boooosh and Cheney. No really, I totally saw it on the Kardashians!

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Napoleonic Wars too!

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I’ll lay money on it that Slow Joe meant voracious. He was starved, waiting for Obama to make the call. Luckily, the catered spread was beyond belief!

socalcon on March 20, 2012 at 7:13 PM

BigAlSouth on March 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM

I’ll put it on the list.

Like I said, I ain’t taking nothing away from those who participated. It was so epic, we still study it today. But, by concentrating on that battle, many forget the contributions made by smaller ships when the capitol ships got themselves blown up at pearl Harbor and the carriers were being run ragged between nuisance attacks and keeping themselves from being sunk.

During a time when the outcome was still unknown by those on the ships. By the time of Leyte Gulf, the stuation was different

Can you imagine a similar thread on a leftie site?

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Been there, done that, got banned. They weren’t total moonbats, just lefty sci-fi geeks.

The facts of battle they got okay, just the causes for the wars they got wrong.

-The British and Americans could have worked things out if they weren’t so eager to kill.
-The south only had to give in to the north to avoid that conflict-The US started the war with Spain over colonies
-All of Europe, and many Americans wanted that great war.
-WWII was entirely the fault of the Allies. First for their sorry treatment of Germany after the first one. And then they forced Japan’s hand by cutting off her resources.
-Just should have left Korea alone.
-Cuba would have been a close friend to the US if it weren’t ffor how the US treated Castro.
-Vietnam was provoked by a corrupt America and southern puppet regime
-The US created Saddam
-Afghanistan was needless blood lust
-War for oil…both times.

Stalin, Mao, Ho-chi…misunderstood.

cozmo on March 20, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Trafalgar on March 20, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I’ve been to your Square. Nice.

SukieTawdry on March 20, 2012 at 8:01 PM

This Biden. There’s something really wrong with him.

curved space on March 20, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Tarawa, either side. The Japanese for claiming they would never lose the island or the 2nd Div Marines for doing the job in 72 hours.

jdkchem on March 20, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Lee dividing his forces at Chancellorsville was moderately audacious.

Washington’s night crossing of the Delaware on Christmas had a certain air of audacity.

Doolittle launching bombers off the deck of a carrier with no place to land just to put a little fear into the Japanese wasn’t lacking in aplomb.

One would be in error if they were to classify Bonnie Prince Charlie’s foray into England in 1745 as milquetoast.

Arnold Yabenson on March 20, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Winfield Scott’s amphibious invasion of Veracruz bordered on innovative.

Arnold Yabenson on March 20, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Any number of Stonewall Jackson’s successful engagements against superior numbers in the Shenandoah Valley might pass the audacity sniff-test.

Arnold Yabenson on March 20, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Ah yes. Good ol’ Greezy Joe. It’s a neverending cavalcade of entertainment with that drunken buffoon.

Hell, his orange spray-tan is so bad that I expect him to appear very soon on the Hot Chicks With Douchebags website.

CatchAll on March 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Washington’s attack on Trenton comes to mind.

NNtrancer on March 20, 2012 at 11:10 PM

You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan.

Bull Simons, Charlie Beckwith, and Dick Meadows are all rolling over in their graves.

Dick Winters and Buck Compton are doing the double facepalm.

Hayabusa on March 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Zero won’t be able to bring up the Osama raid without people remembering Biden’s remark.

Did anyone investigate the report that Zero actually didn’t have anything to do with it, that Hillary and Panetta had to do it?

Just curious.

dogsoldier on March 21, 2012 at 6:34 AM

You all just don’t get it. Joe thought it was a pretty big deal so it must have been. End of story.

NTxOkie on March 21, 2012 at 6:42 AM

How about d-day? Bin Laden was a great thing but clearly you have no understanding of scale

scboy on March 21, 2012 at 7:52 AM

There is a chance that the Republicans would get to run against this cross-eyed moron in 2016. I’m afraid it would be a Pyrrhic victory though, as that would mean the Teleprompter has 4 more years to run the debt up far past our ability to EVER pay it down or even keep up with the interest.

Russ in OR on March 21, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I agree. It took Bush 7 years and he still couldn’t get Osama

liberal4life on March 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM

BJ Clinton had TWO chances to get him and another where OBL was offered outright to him and BJ Clinton refused the offer.

dthorny on March 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Hey Plugs Biden, did SIGNING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE declaring American independence mean anything?

It may not be as important as a beer summit or attending another NCAA basketball game on our dime, but c’mon.

dthorny on March 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I wonder if Biden thinks there are 500 years of American history?

dthorny on March 21, 2012 at 11:56 AM

No creditors had any interest in extending the automakers capital, which lead to Bush’s initial cash infusion.

bayam on March 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM

So, you’re saying that it was Bush – NOT Obama – who saved the automobile industry.

Solaratov on March 21, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Talk history? Go ahead, but to me this is just another prime example of what the Obama administration is based on. Out right lies, deceit, and intentional half truths or worse. Anything and everything that needs to be done to continue their control and absolute power over us. Obama, Bidden, Holder, the very picture and definition of tyranny. How can any American allow this to continue and just joke about their seeming lack of information as a simple miss-speak.

jpcpt03 on March 21, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Just remembered another Audacious Military Plan that many folks have forgotten about, or never knew of in the first place.

In 1960 Mossad staged an elaborate operation in Argentina, capturing Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. They then managed to keep him hidden in a safe house for 9 days before smuggling him out of Argentina on an El Al flight. They disguised him as one of the plane’s crew members, and drugged him so that he appeared to be drunk.

Peter Malkin, one of the Mossad agents, wrote a great book about the operation called “Eichmann in My Hands”. Well worth a read if you can find a copy.

Del Dolemonte on March 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM

ATF Audaciousness

ATF Had Prime Gun Smuggling Suspect In Custody But Released Him
—DrewM.

Guns weren’t the only thing that walked with no tracking mechanism.

The prime suspect in the botched gun trafficking investigation known as “Fast and Furious” — Manuel Acosta — was taken into custody and might have been stopped from trafficking weapons to Mexico’s killer drug cartel early on. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) let him go, according to new documents obtained by CBS News.

ted c on March 20, 2012 at 12:06 PM

And the (female) agent who had him in custody wrote her phone number on a $10 bill, and gave it to him, saying – with a wink and a nod, “Give me a call sometime.” Then she let him go.

btw; He never called.

Solaratov on March 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM

In 1960 Mossad staged an elaborate operation in Argentina, capturing Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. They then managed to keep him hidden in a safe house for 9 days before smuggling him out of Argentina on an El Al flight. They disguised him as one of the plane’s crew members, and drugged him so that he appeared to be drunk.

Peter Malkin, one of the Mossad agents, wrote a great book about the operation called “Eichmann in My Hands”. Well worth a read if you can find a copy.

Del Dolemonte on March 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Heh, Indeed. Equally audacious would be taking out that jihadi mastermind in Dubai inside the hotel and getting away.

AH_C on March 21, 2012 at 2:10 PM

And there’s Uncle Joe, he’s a-thinkin mighty slow at the Junction . . Idiot.Junction.

What an effing moron.

Conservchik on March 21, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Poor old Joe. He is old enough to remember and senile enough to believe it.

mediamime on March 21, 2012 at 7:49 PM

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