Quotes of the day

posted at 9:00 pm on March 18, 2012 by Allahpundit

“Can either Mitt Romney or Rick Santorum meaningfully advance beyond the ideological and demographic beachheads of support they have secured in the marathon slog for the Republican presidential nomination?…

“While Romney has faced considerable criticism for his inability to consolidate the party’s most conservative vanguard, Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

“Unless Romney or Santorum can break this pattern, the remaining primaries and caucuses will turn less on the jousting between them than on the underlying demographics of each state as it takes its turn on the calendar. And if that pattern holds, Romney would retain his delegate advantage over Santorum and Gingrich, but likely confront a close call on attracting enough delegates for a first-ballot majority while also facing enough losses in conservative-leaning Southern and heartland states to sustain doubts about his ability to mobilize the GOP base.”

***

“If Mr. Santorum were a little closer to Mr. Romney (say that he had qualified for the ballot in Virginia and won the state) and the allocation rules in the remaining states were a little more favorable to him (say that Texas was winner-take-all rather than proportional), perhaps the small-ball strategy would be worth pursing.

“But he is far enough behind that he instead needs a ‘game change’ — something that fundamentally alters the dynamics of the race and allows him to substantially improve on his benchmarks from previous states.

“Game-changing events are not easy to come by, of course. But Mr. Santorum’s campaign does not seem so interested in maximizing his chance at achieving one. His travel schedule is one such example: Mr. Santorum spent part of last week in Puerto Rico, and will be spending part of Sunday in Louisiana, rather than focusing on Illinois, a state where polls and demographics give Mr. Romney an edge but only a modest one…

“For Mr. Santorum to have a shot at winning the nomination, he will need to poll at least 5 or 10 points better across the board than he has so far — and to do so consistently enough that those polls translate into votes and then delegates.”

***

“McCain added that Romney, who lost two key Southern primaries on Tuesday, was ‘improving dramatically as a candidate.’

“The 2008 GOP presidential nominee, said Romney, whom McCain is backing for the presidency, had been hurt by the revamped GOP nominating process where many early contests awarded their delegates proportionally, delaying Romney’s ability to deliver a knock-out blow to his rivals.

“‘In any campaign before him we had winner take all, in winner take all you would assume those numbers would be significantly different,’ McCain said of Romney’s delegate totals.”

***

“‘I think the process is healthy,’ Gillespie said on CNN’s ‘State of the Union.’ ‘I think a competitive primary is going to result in a nominee who is stronger at the end of the process.’

“Gillespie, a supporter of Mitt Romney, said he believes the extended nominating season is sharpening the former Massachusetts governor for a head-to-head contest with President Barack Obama later this year.

“‘I think (Romney) is the likely nominee. I think the challenge he is facing right now is making him a better candidate,’ Gillespie told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley.”

***

“If Mitt Romney does finally wrestle the nomination to the ground, and then loses to Obama, conservatives will blame the loss on his alleged moderation. The right wing take-away will be to try to nominate a true ideologue in 2016.

“But if someone like Rick Santorum gets the nomination in an upset, the party faithful will get to experience the adrenaline rush of going off a cliff together, like Thelma and Louise — elation followed by an electoral thud

“Giving conservative activists everything they want in a presidential nominee would ultimately be clarifying for the Republican Party. It would break the fever that has afflicted American politics turning fellow citizens against one another. It would restore a sense of balance, recognizing that it is unwise to systemically ignore the 40 percent of American voters who identify themselves as independent or the 35 percent who are centrist. After all, a successful political party requires both wings to fly.

“There’s nothing like losing 40 states to refocus the mind.”

***

“‘We’re not making plans for a brokered convention,’ [RNC chair Reince] Priebus told host Bob Schieffer on ‘Face the Nation.’…

“‘Guess what: A tough primary, a little bit of drama actually helped Barack Obama,’ Priebus said. ‘We put America to sleep with our primary four years ago. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton nearly gouged each other’s eyes out.

“‘What happened? He won.’”

***

“‘I don’t think anybody in their right mind thinks that this way the primaries have played out has been good for the Republican chances,’ Barbour said on ABC News’ ‘This Week.’ ‘But what to me is remarkable is it hasn’t helped Obama much. If this Republican nick-nick-nick-nick kind of primary is really hurting, he ought to be soaring. Well, he’s not soaring.’”

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“If Mr. Santorum cannot reach that number, he was asked on Sunday on CNN’s ‘State of the Union with Candy Crowley,’ would he stay in the race and try to deny Mr. Romney the nomination?

“Mr. Santorum did not answer the question. He quibbled about the actual number of delegates that each candidate has. Asked again if he would go for a brokered convention, he said that he was in the race to win and that conservatives wanted to nominate a conservative…

“Mr. Santorum’s demurring on the matter suggests some concern about how the public might react if he openly advocated for a brokered convention. Such a situation might be entertaining for the media, but it would entrust the decision-making to bosses in backrooms, not to the people at the ballot box.”


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What no coverage of Puerto Rico Hotair?

I check back every couple weeks hoping that my once favorite blog has returned to at least balanced conservative coverage. Looks like Hotair is still on the Santorum crazy train…be back in two weeks.

ConservativeLaw on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

Oh, gee… wonder why.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

“While Romney has faced considerable criticism for his inability to consolidate the party’s most conservative vanguard, Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.
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The Great WannaBe’s of 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Seven minutes of Rick Santorum talking about how great Mitt Romney is.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/seven-minutes-of-rick-santorum-talking-about-how-g

almosthandsome on March 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Romney picked up 20 more delegates tonight. Santorum/ Gingrich didn’t split the delegates keeping Romney to a proportional number because Rick is Rick. As people get to know Santorum he will lose support. He isn’t a National candidate and if nominated at a “open convention” will lose badly in the general. Maybe as badly as he lost own state by over 18 percent… a record!

BobScuba on March 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

Oh, gee… wonder why.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Satan of course.

lester on March 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM

The picture used in the header of this thread says it all. Sherriff Rick is nothing more than “John Judgemental”. He takes the GOP back to Nixonian times. Regardless of How social cons feel about him, he will take the GOP back to the 50′s. And while I understand that many of you are O.K. with that, it’s NEVER going to get him elected in the general. I couldn’t dislike him more. I thought it was grim holding my nose for McCain, but there’s no way I’m interested in giving this creep the keys to the castle.

BettyRuth on March 18, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Here I am trying to convince myself that Romney would be OK, then I read about his getting Puerto Rico votes by saying they could become a state without English being the official government language.
This is a painful primary season.

GaltBlvnAtty on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

“Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.”

Oh, gee… wonder why.
MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

At least the use of the word “penetrate” in reference to Santorum’s campaign gave me a quick snicker.

whatcat on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

No coverage of the Missouri caucus debacle?

AZfederalist on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Why is it, that the further this is going along, I’m liking Rick less? Maybe because he gets off topic so easily on the economic issues, and gets steered so easily to the social ones.

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

What no coverage of Puerto Rico Hotair?

No coverage of the Missouri caucus debacle?

You guys act as if such things are newsworthy or something.
(Hope no “sarc tag” is needed.)

whatcat on March 18, 2012 at 9:16 PM

What no coverage of Puerto Rico Hotair?

ConservativeLaw on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

ConservativeLaw:Viola:)
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O/T,

Mitt Romney has won

the GOP primary in Puerto Rico, per @cnn, @nbcnews,

Submitted 4 mins ago by editor
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM
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Puerto Rico Republican Caucuses
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Sunday, March 18
Number of Delegates
23 delegates
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http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/puerto-rico

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:17 PM

While Romney has faced considerable criticism for his inability to consolidate the party’s most conservative vanguard, Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

Pay attention, “mmmm mmmm mmmmoderates”. This is clear evidence of a big tent party; you have absolutely NO EXCUSE for a vote for the Constitution Hater.

hillbillyjim on March 18, 2012 at 9:17 PM

No coverage of the Missouri caucus debacle?

AZfederalist on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

So did they ever declare a winner? I never did find the results so I’m thinking no.

gophergirl on March 18, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Oh, what the heck, I am a Newt supporter, largely because he sees the bigger picture in identifying Obama’s weaknesses and in fighting for conservative principles.

And just for fun, because I have been wanting share the amazing editing coordination of music with choreography and because this primary season will be a fight to the finish, let me share this one with you.

Alt should like this one.
IT’s

AMAZING THAT THEY CLIPPED ALL THESE PIECES OF FOOTAGE TOGETHER WITH THE SAME

TIMING OF THE THEME SONG. PRETTY NIFTY!
Great dancing! Fabulous Editing. Sound On and turn it Up.

Enjoy!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz3CPzdCDws

onlineanalyst on March 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

“But if someone like Rick Santorum gets the nomination in an upset, the party faithful will get to experience the adrenaline rush of going off a cliff together, like Thelma and Louise — elation followed by an electoral thud…

Why is it these guys assume that ‘real’ conservatives want Rick to be the nominee…

Even in draw poker you can throw three cards back.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

Oh, gee… wonder why.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

No condom. He won’t penetrate without one.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Given that Romney is currently leading in IL, and that Hot Air has a policy of embargoing news on any race where he is ahead, I look forward to the exciting knitting thread they have scheduled for Tuesday night!

HTL on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Why is it, that the further this is going along, I’m liking Rick less? Maybe because he gets off topic so easily on the economic issues, and gets steered so easily to the social ones.

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I agree. Now is he really getting steered away by a lack of discipline or is the MSM making it seem like he does that?

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I don’t think much of Romney or his chances to win an election against Obama, however Santorum would be a give a way. Only an idiot would talk about the things Ricky boy has been talking about. Romney is now starting to follow Gingrich’s lead which is about the price of gas and the economy in general. That absolutely has to be laser like focused upon. No letting A$$holerod clain this is snake oil. All of Obama’s policies have been snake oil. He has got Chu, Salazar and Jackson in agencies which have caused the price of gasoline to rise by the amount it has. He could not get cap and trade through the congress so his minions are doing it through regulation. The GOP candidate needs to hammer that fact home constantly. Let us see how many people are willing to suffer the consequences of reelecting this ideolog Marxist.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on March 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

What no coverage of Puerto Rico Hotair?

I check back every couple weeks hoping that my once favorite blog has returned to at least balanced conservative coverage. Looks like Hotair is still on the Santorum crazy train…be back in two weeks.

ConservativeLaw on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Check the headline thread.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

ATTENTION: ED MORRISSEY AND ALLAHPUNDIT

We know that your website, HotAir.com, has an anti-Romney bias and tends to spin the news in favor of the unelectable bigot Rick Santorum, but we ask that you at least have the decency to make a blog post about Romney’s tremendous victory in Puerto Rico today.

A lot of us are sick of all the pretending that the bigot Rick Santorum has now or ever had any chance of winning the nomination. Rick Santorum has ZERO chance of winning the nomination.

Besides, we all know that…
A Vote for the unelectable Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

No condom. He won’t penetrate without one.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Errm? I thought he was anti-condom…

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

TIMING OF THE THEME SONG. PRETTY NIFTY!
Great dancing! Fabulous Editing. Sound On and turn it Up.

Enjoy!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz3CPzdCDws

onlineanalyst on March 18, 2012 at 9:19 PM

onlineanalyst:Most Excellent,thank-you!:)

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Given that Romney is currently leading in IL, and that Hot Air has a policy of embargoing news on any race where he is ahead, I look forward to the exciting knitting thread they have scheduled for Tuesday night!

HTL on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Or you could go elsewhere.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM

ATTENTION: ED MORRISSEY AND ALLAHPUNDIT

We know that your website, HotAir.com, has an anti-Romney bias and tends to spin the news in favor of the unelectable bigot Rick Santorum, but we ask that you at least have the decency to make a blog post about Romney’s tremendous victory in Puerto Rico today.

A lot of us are sick of all the pretending that the bigot Rick Santorum has now or ever had any chance of winning the nomination. Rick Santorum has ZERO chance of winning the nomination.

Besides, we all know that…
A Vote for the unelectable Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Worth repeating! *snicker

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM

No coverage of the Missouri caucus debacle?

AZfederalist on March 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I’m shocked – shocked! – that Glenn “I’m all about the truth” Beck isn’t reporting the truth of the event.

link

link 2

Dante on March 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM

What no coverage of Puerto Rico Hotair?
ConservativeLaw on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Check the headline thread.
katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

A passing link to an outside story, with no commentary, just isn’t quite the same thing.

whatcat on March 18, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Check the headline thread.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM

That would require going off of something other than bluegill’s mass e-mail to the Mittbots that HA’s QOTD wasn’t about Mitt’s tremendous victory of 20 delegates.

Remember when Sarah Palin’s loyalists were smeared as cultists? Ha, good ole days!

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Or you could go elsewhere.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Don’t you dare try to tell Romney supporters to leave.

If people are unhappy about the pro-Santorum bias at HotAir.com, then they have every right to speak up about it.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

With Santorum’s poor showing among Catholic voters in other parts of the country and his talking up mandatory English in a predominantly Spanish-speaking commonwealth as a requirement for the statehood that a majority of Puerto Ricans have repeatedly voted not to seek, I had a suspicion he might not do well there.

Confutus on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

So did they ever declare a winner? I never did find the results so I’m thinking no.

the missouri primary held in february was strictly a beauty contest and did not do anything for delegates.

the caucus yesteday just picked 2300 delegates that go to a convention in april to pick the states actual 53 delegates to the republican convention.

It appears that Ron Paul supporters and Romney supporters teamed up at many of the caucus sites to sandbag santorum .

It appears Santorum may end up with the least.

the missouri GOP is not releasing any info since yesterday did not pick the actual delegates.

gerry-mittbot

gerrym51 on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

ATTENTION: ED MORRISSEY AND ALLAHPUNDIT

We know that your website, HotAir.com, has an anti-Romney bias and tends to spin the news in favor of the unelectable bigot Rick Santorum, but we ask that you at least have the decency to make a blog post about Romney’s tremendous victory in Puerto Rico today.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Wow. More bluegill dickery. Ed and Allah prolly think you are a tool just like the rest of us.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM

What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?

Santorum was more assertive on This Week. Good.

Speakup on March 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Worth repeating! *snicker
MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Without the term “bigot” being repeated at least 10 times, it’s just not thoughtful commentary.

whatcat on March 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Remember when Sarah Palin’s loyalists were smeared as cultists? Ha, good ole days!

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Good times, good tims. Wow, they get goofier every day.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Don’t you dare try to tell Romney supporters to leave.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Why not? It sounds like a perfectly capitalistic approach.

You know, believe it or not, some here have found alternatives to HA.

Perhaps you feel entitled to Hot Air.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

It sounds like a stalemate: Over half of Republicans reject Romney’s big-gov corporatist agenda, just like over half of Republicans reject Santorum’s big-gov religionist agenda.

What the Republican Party needs is a candidate that doesn’t have an unpopular big-gov track record and would actually govern with respect to the Constitution and our rights and free individuals not to have a crappy, authoritarian big-gov agenda of one side or the other shoved down our throats.

FloatingRock on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Well,I’ll break it in half,my Fourth attempt at posting!!

St. Charles co caucuses adjourned w/o delegates
38 Minutes ago
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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St. Charles co caucuses adjourned w/o delegates
Uploaded on Mar 17, 2012
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Video of the meeting being adjourned without delegates being assigned at the St. Charles County, MO GOP Caucuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9__0im5kQk
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Arrest of Brent Strafford, St. Charles County Caucus.
Uploaded on Mar 17, 2012
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This is after the GOP illegally took over the caucus and we proceded to have a caucus outside the building on the same property.Caucus goers also figering out that there was a straw poll conducted when most didn’t even realize it. We organized and were trying to follow all the rules when we were interupted and Brent Strafford was arrested. There were approximatly 20-25 police cars, numerous police bikes, and one police helicopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRVi1m9BnXI&feature=related

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 2:59 AM

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

ATTENTION: ED MORRISSEY AND ALLAHPUNDIT

We know that your website, HotAir.com, has an anti-Romney bias and tends to spin the news in favor of the unelectable bigot Rick Santorum, but we ask that you at least have the decency to make a blog post about Romney’s tremendous victory in Puerto Rico today.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I get the feeling panfish that anything short of a headline like “Mitt is the greatest candidate ever and now back to our 24hr coverage of Mitt and his awesomeness” would be considered by you slanting towards another candidate.

Sheesh someone needs to throw this one back in the pond.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

gerrym51 on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Thank you. I read all about the issues going on but I never did find the results.

gophergirl on March 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Without the term “bigot” being repeated at least 10 times, it’s just not thoughtful commentary.

whatcat on March 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM

I wish Blue had told us how she really felt.

Don’t hold back!

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Well,I’ll break it in half,my Fourth attempt at posting!!

Police called to restore order at St. Charles County caucus, 2 arrested
10:52 PM, Mar 17, 2012
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St. Peters (KSDK)–The Republican caucus in St. Charles County came to an abrupt end on Saturday afternoon when police were called in to restore order.

More than 2,500 people were attending the caucus at Francis Howell North High School in St. Peters.

Police say the problem started when a man with a video camera was asked to leave. When he refused, the organizer adjourned the caucus. When several caucusers became upset because they were not allowed to vote, organizers called police for crowd control.

However, several caucusers dispute that account, saying they were upset that certain procedures weren’t being followed.

“I was doing what I had to do. There was no other place to try and reconvene that meeting. I was not inciting anyone to anything. I was addressing a crowd that had gone quiet to listen to me talk,” said Brent Stafford. Stafford was arrested at the caucus. “I was on public property, this was put on the call to caucus 15 days earlier to be at that location. There was no other option.”

Two people were arrested for trespassing when they refused to leave school property. Brent Stafford, 45 and Kenneth Suitter, 55, were taken to the St. Peters Justice Center where they were booked and released.
(More…..)

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/310756/40/Police-called-to-restore-order-at-St-Charles-County-caucus-2-arrested

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 2:59 AM

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Don’t you dare try to tell Romney supporters to leave.

If people are unhappy about the pro-Santorum bias at HotAir.com, then they have every right to speak up about it.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Kiss my azz, you spamming little bigot.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Good times, good tims. Wow, they get goofier every day.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Heck I thought nothing would get more absurd than the Perry/Cain supporter fights.

Boy was I wrong.

SNIFF – I kind of miss those days ;)

gophergirl on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I get the feeling panfish that anything short of a headline like “Mitt is the greatest candidate ever and now back to our 24hr coverage of Mitt and his awesomeness” would be considered by you slanting towards another candidate.

Sheesh someone needs to throw this one back in the pond.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Good snark.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

The unelectable Rick Santorum can barely even win solidly Republican states like Arizona.

Arizona, Rasmussen, March 15:

Romney 51
Obama 40

Arizona, Rasmussen, March 15:

Santorum 45
Obama 44

The sooner the unelectable loser Rick Santorum drops out of the race, the sooner we can unite as a party and focus all our attention on defeating Obama. To be honest, I’m sick of the make believe that Rick Santorum is anyone to be taken seriously. The man couldn’t win more than 5 or so states in a general election.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

my big hope is that scotus will rule against barry.care…then at least when barry wins 53 to 47 we’ll have some comfort that national health care has been delayed once more.

and maybe we’ll get to 50 votes in the Senate, which will complicate things for barry.

but if the country wants Obama we will have another term…and let’s face it, he’s the odds on favorite.

The country has been through a lot in the last 15 years. The political class has failed in most things it has tried…and continues to be dominated by the warmists, the single payers, the free housing crowd.

r keller on March 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

The sooner the unelectable loser Rick Santorum drops out of the race, the sooner we can unite as a party and focus all our attention on defeating Obama. To be honest, I’m sick of the make believe that Rick Santorum is anyone to be taken seriously. The man couldn’t win more than 5 or so states in a general election.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

To other posters, this kind of commentary demonstrates how one divides a party.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM

O/T,heres another eye-opner!!

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
March 15, 2012 7:24 pm
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Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches,

as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.(More….)
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:41 PM

bluegill is petunia-esque. maybe worse.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Kiss my azz, you spamming little bigot.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

; ) katy, you’re good at fishing too? The gilled one took that hook, line and sinker. Don’t forget, she’s definitely not a keeper. Catch and release remember. She is familiar with catch and release I can assure you. LOL!

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

The unelectable Rick Santorum can’t even win his home state, the swing state PA, despite the fact that PA isn’t overwhelmingly Democrat like Mass is.

Pennsylvania, Quinnipiac Poll from last week

Obama 45
Santorum 44

Rick Santorum is a loser and is yeterday’s news. Santorum lost again today in Puerto Rico, and he’s trailing in Illinois, which is up next.

If people want a candidate who will work tirelessly to prevent adults from being able to download porn, then Rick “Bedroom Policeman” Santorum is their guy.

But if voters want a candidate who can and will defeat Obama and make the necessary changes as president to grow the economy, then voters know to look somewhere else besides the unelectable, extreme social conservative Rick Santorum.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Romney is still relying on the “inevitability” meme. He is a horrible candidate and everyone knows it. I mean the guy said this morning he is better than Obama because of his private sector experience. May saying “I’m not a Marxist” or “My goal is not to destroy the country” would be more effective?

Igor R. on March 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Bread ball?

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Heck I thought nothing would get more absurd than the Perry/Cain supporter fights.

Boy was I wrong.

SNIFF – I kind of miss those days ;)

gophergirl on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Know what ya mean.Here, I have extra hankies. Found myself almost missing Jenfidel.
Almost

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Or you could go elsewhere.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:29 PM

You know, this USED to be a site where I could come and get a reasonably balanced overview regarding the news of the day, albeit from a conservative perspective.

Now it is spinning madly for one candidate, in the most objectionable fashion possible. Because they cannot rely on their commenters to share their bias, they rely on “1984-style” tactics and simply pretend that the news that they don’t like isn’t happening, which has the additional benefit of denying their “unreliable” commenters a place to express their opinions.

In my opinion, this is contemptible, short-sighted, and stupid. And those of us who used to look on this site as a reliable news aggregator for all things conservative are right to stick around and complain, in the hopes of getting the attention of someone who might be able to get things back on track.

I have, of course, also identified other sources of information, so that I no longer need to rely on this site for the news of the day. Few media organizations, however, would consider forcing former regular readers to go elsewhere for information to be an actual triumph. After they have offloaded all of the “unfaithful”, what will they do when Santorum faceplants?

Understand that none of the people currently complaining about this are arguing that Hot Air can’t have threads featuring pro-Santorum themes or events. Just that they stop suppressing the ones that don’t.

HTL on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

bluegill is petunia-esque. maybe worse.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I don’t think petunia is quite as unhinged.

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Romney is awkward: “strange things are happening to me…” to “the trees are the right height”
Santo has foot in mouth disease: No message discipline: “What a snob..”

-I have to say, I sympathize. I know how a lot of teaparty folks really mean to show Obama they dont think much of him at all. They have been so amped, fired up to throw Obama out of office but look at the mules they’ve got to run a horse race with..*sigh*

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM
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; ) katy, you’re good at fishing too? The gilled one took that hook, line and sinker. Don’t forget, she’s definitely not a keeper. Catch and release remember. She is familiar with catch and release I can assure you. LOL!

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Bmore:As Bishop would say….”Get Off My Lake”,haha!!:)

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

The unelectable Rick Santorum can’t even win his home state

But if voters want a candidate who can and will defeat Obama and make the necessary changes as president to grow the economy, then voters know to look somewhere else besides the unelectable, extreme social conservative Rick Santorum.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Do you happen to write the attack adds for Mitt in IL by chance? I swear I heard the same phrasing just the other day.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Mitt’s current opinions are like the result of a roulette spin: it all comes down to one thing “Do you feel lucky?”

Igor R. on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

bluegill is petunia-esque. maybe worse.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Now just wait a minute! Credit where credit is due. No knocking petunias thorough knowledge of incoherance. The woman is a PRO.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

To other posters, this kind of commentary demonstrates how one divides a party.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:40 PM

That is what they never are able to understand. It’s one thing to have an opinion and stand for your principles (whatever they may be) it’s a whole other kettle of pan fish to go non-linear when someone doesn’t share your devotion to your candidate.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Santorum isn’t perfect. But let’s look at it this way: yes, he did take out the stuff from his book that some consultant said would be used against him, but the good news a lot of what he originally wrote was pure, unabashed conservatism. Who do you want: a true conservative who sometimes pretends to be a friend of the proletariat or a true liberal who has decided to play a conservative on TV?

Igor R. on March 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

A Vote for the unelectable Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I’m no Santorum fan, but that non-sequitur is the equivalent of saying that reading an irrational comment by you today in this thread = reading a rational comment by you tomorrow in another (i.e., not very likely).

ShainS on March 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

No she plagiarize’s. She hasn’t had an original thought yet.

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

O/T,

Re:Puerto Rico Caucus
———————

@GarrettNBCNews tweeted:
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Romney on Puerto Rico results:
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“So far pretty darn good news. Its very exciting.”

Submitted 1 hour ago from twitter.com/GarrettNBCNews
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:51 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

LOL! Slight correction. “Get outta my lake! “

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

This is the REAL Quote of the day.

From Boston. (The Boston herald has it.) The St. Patrick’s day Roast / Breakfast in South Boston.

“I hope you didn’t get lost leaving Cambridge again today,” Brown said as Warren listened and laughed.

Fleuries on March 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Relax there is a thread dedicated to a poll that shows Santorum doing well in four states! We don’t need no special thread.

Minnfidel on March 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

+ 100..Excellent post!!..:)

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 9:54 PM

That is what they never are able to understand. It’s one thing to have an opinion and stand for your principles (whatever they may be) it’s a whole other kettle of pan fish to go non-linear when someone doesn’t share your devotion to your candidate.

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Either this concept isn’t understood or someone is just playing the role of a moby/troll/what-have-you.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I don’t think petunia is quite as unhinged.

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM

You are right. The gilled one is a well trained attack chimp that comes down from the trees to fling Mitt at on-lookers while petunia just screamed like a howler monkey on rare occasions.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Romney is a bleeding heart liberal and that’s why he can’t fix the economy. He just doesn’t have the “heart” to let poor people fend for themselves. He is a patrician after all.

Igor R. on March 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The unelectable bigot Rick Santorum doesn’t look to be doing too well in Illinois, where a primary election will be held in a few days.

Turns out that Republican voters in Illinois, just as they have done in the majority of other states which have already held primary elections, are rejecting the unelectable social extremist Rick Santorum.

The delusional Rick Santorum, who has ZERO chance of winning the nomination, and who would lose to Obama in a landslide in November, continues on in his embarrassing campaign, forestalling the launch of our national campaign to defeat Obama and increasing Obama’s chances of reelection.

Illinois, Rasmussen, March 16

Romney 41
Santorum 32
Gingrich 14
Paul 7

Illinois, FOX Chicago/WAA, March 16

Romney 37
Santorum 31
Gingrich 14
Paul 8

Thankfully, Illinois voters are choosing a candidate who actually can and will defeat Barack Obama.

They know that…
A Vote for the unelectable Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

It’s no wonder that some of Rick Santorum’s loudest and most enthusiastic supporters are liberal Democrats who want to give Obama an easy opponent in the general election.

VIDEO: Liberal Democrats for Rick Santorum!

The Obama Campaign won’t be happy when Rick Santorum loses yet again this Tuesday.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

SNIFF – I kind of miss those days ;)

gophergirl on March 18, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Don’t we all..:)

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

S H U T U P !…Sincerely!…Shut-up! We know you’re unhappy!….Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy gawwwwwwwwwwd weeeeeeeeee know you’re unhappy…you remind us like a bad case of diarrhea!

OT-OHIO is in the sweet 16! No!…the other OHIO! Good on them!

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

It is amusing to log in over the months and see supporters for each candidate accuse/whine HA, Ed, Allah, & Tina of being Pro Romney! Pro Santorum! Anti-Romney! Anti-Santorum! Pro-Perry!

LOL- Make up your minds.

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Now just wait a minute! Credit where credit is due. No knocking petunias thorough knowledge of incoherance. The woman is a PRO.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 9:50 PM

ROTF. Its a tough call either way. Pet had some real screechy gems. What was that one about bloody mary or something? Total Space cadet.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

HTL on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM
In the 2010 the Illinois GOP nomiated a guy who thinks that abrtion should be a legal and totally unrestricted(no partially-birth bans, born a-live acts, or parental consent laws) from conception to full-term live birth.
That being the case-Mitt’s lead ain’t exactly a surprise.
*Mitt is more conservative than Mark Kirk*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM
I don’t think petunia is quite as unhinged.

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM
You are right. The gilled one is a well trained attack chimp that comes down from the trees to fling Mitt at on-lookers while petunia just screamed like a howler monkey on rare occasions.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The poor woman works 24/7 at being a total idiot and this is the respect you show her?
For sham! There, there, petunia. Those mean men just don’t know.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 9:47 PM
LOL! Slight correction. “Get outta my lake! “

Bmore on March 18, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Bmore:Haha,close enough….:)

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

my big hope is that scotus will rule against barry.care…then at least when barry wins 53 to 47 we’ll have some comfort that national health care has been delayed once more.

r keller on March 18, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Obama barely got 53 percent at the height of his popularity in 2008. Now that he has a record to run on, he is nowhere near the sure thing the MSM is trying to pretend he is and anyone with the slightest grasp of reality and who doesn’t just believe everything the MSM spoon feeds them knows that.

And yes, that includes believing that the GOP primary is going to hurt the eventual GOP nominee — as the Preibus quote aptly points out: everyone thought the 2008 Dem. primary between Hillary Clinton & Obama was going to cause the Dems to lose that year. People here seem to have no memory of what happened just 4 years ago, so here’s a little reminder: The Obama camp and the MSM were literally screaming “Why won’t the b!tch just quit?!?!?!” about Hillary Clinton staying in the race until June (which, btw, was a much, much closer contest than what we have now between Romney & Santorum and which could have legitimately led to a brokered convention). That moron Keith Olberman openly called for a party bigwig to “take Hillary into a room and only he come out.” People were so hysterical that the 2008 primary was going to hurt the Dem. nominee, in fact, that when Hillary Clinton pointed out that she didn’t understand all the calls for her to drop out & not see the entire primary calendar through to June given the closeness of the race, as her husband Bill Clinton didn’t clinch the nomination until June and that Bobby Kennedy was still pursuing the nomination in June, that she was actually accused of calling for Obama’s assassination. Now that primary was some way more major & dramatic sheet then what is happening in the GOP primary right now. And still, Obama won. So people here need to stop with the hysterics: the process will play out & regardless of whatever fantasies people may have about a brokered convention, the GOP will have a nominee in June.

Dark Star on March 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Caution:..You left someone out..:)

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Nominated a guy for the US senate race…

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

But if voters want a candidate who can and will defeat Obama and make the necessary changes as president to grow the economy, then voters know to look somewhere else besides the unelectable, extreme BIGOTED social conservative Rick Santorum.

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

…hey! yahda…yahda…yahda…You forgot something!

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

O/T:

Have you seen the latest cover of sports illustrated swim suit issue?

Kate Upton is wearing a postage stamp for a bikini bottom. I almost slipped on my own drool.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM

I left many out..:)

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

ROTF. Its a tough call either way. Pet had some real screechy gems. What was that one about bloody mary or something? Total Space cadet.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

That was a classic. panfish is just a one note cut and paste spammer. Petunia is an inspired loon.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Santorum has demonstrated a parallel inability to penetrate the party’s more moderate, affluent and economy-focused wing.

Oh, gee… wonder why.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

No condom. He won’t penetrate without one.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Could y’all leave that sort of ‘talk’ to Tesla,please.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Adding correcting: Quotes of the day from Boston.com

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/03/elizabeth-warren-survives-scott-brown-native-son-status-southie-political-roast/k7fMLGDFpTxB3mUdFGKqWI/index.html?p1=News_links

The St. Patricks day breakfast roast in Boston.

Actually funny, by Elizabeth Warren, if she means it:

“Where do Republicans find these good-looking guys,” Warren asked. “Is it the L.L. Bean catalogue or what? It’s hard on folks like me.”

Brown…

“tweaked Romney, now a Republican presidential candidate served by some of the same political advisers, saying his trademark pickup truck now has 230,000 miles on it but “Governor Romney was nice enough to give me one of his Cadillacs, so we’re all set.”

Fleuries on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

No condom. He won’t penetrate without one.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM

ROFL

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I don’t like ANY of ‘em, still….YAWN.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I left many out..:)

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

lol..I know you did..But one in particular could cause a backlash from certain fans..:)

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

bluegill on March 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM

S H U T U P !…Sincerely!…Shut-up! We know you’re unhappy!….Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy gawwwwwwwwwwd weeeeeeeeee know you’re unhappy…you remind us like a bad case of diarrhea!

OT-OHIO is in the sweet 16! No!…the other OHIO! Good on them!

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2012 at 9:56 PM

KOOLAID2:BG,is a Wascally Reble Rouser!(sarc):)

canopfor on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

ooops. I guess you won’t like my Kate Upton post. Kind of sexist. My Bad. hehe.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

You are right. The gilled one is a well trained attack chimp that comes down from the trees to fling Mitt at on-lookers while petunia just screamed like a howler monkey on rare occasions.

SparkPlug on March 18, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I think you just one upped me. :)

Bunsin2 on March 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Dire Straits on March 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

lol, I know. I am tired and not in the mood to rile anyone up.
Tis a pleasant thread…for now.

bazil9 on March 18, 2012 at 10:06 PM

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