Feds to Texas: You defunded Planned Parenthood, now we’re defunding you
posted at 3:05 pm on March 16, 2012 by Tina Korbe
When the Texas state administration first considered a rule to ban Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers from participating in the Texas’ Women’s Health Program, which is jointly funded by the state of Texas and the federal government, the Obama administration retaliated by threatening to cut funding to the program entirely. Texas Health and Human Services Commissioner Thomas Suehs signed the rule anyway — and the ball was back in the Obama administration’s court. I wrote at the time:
Does Obama want to actually cut funding and potentially jeopardize the Texas Women’s Health program, which might not be able to survive without federal funding? That sends the message that Obama cares less that women have access to health care than that they receive health care from certain providers — namely, providers that also offer abortions.
Either Rick Perry just called Obama’s bluff or this is about to be an interesting issue. Planned Parenthood has already retorted with its typical demagoguery: “No one’s politics should interfere with a woman’s access to health care,” Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast President and CEO Peter J. Durkin said in a statement. “It is shameful that Governor Perry and Commissioner Suehs continue to politicize lifesaving breast cancer screenings and birth control access for low-income women.”
Would Planned Parenthood stand by that statement as it applies to President Obama, too? Surely other providers in the Texas Women’s Health Exchange provide breast cancer screenings and birth control access. Eliminating abortion providers from the exchange doesn’t jeopardize women’s health access — but eliminating the exchange altogether would.
The answer to my original question is: Yes, the Obama administration actually does want to cut funding and jeopardize the Texas’ Women’s Health Program entirely. He cares more to protect Planned Parenthood than he does to protect women’s health, in general. Fortunately for low-income women in Texas, Rick Perry won’t stand for it. Via Guy Benson:
Perry, who slammed the federal government constantly during his short-lived bid for the Republican presidential nomination, has directed state health officials to find the funding to keep the program going from other parts of the budget, but he has promised not to raise revenues to cover the costs.
Incidentally, this is one of the things I most respect about Rick Perry: He is willing to forgo federal funds, recognizing that federal dollars always come with strings attached. He rejected Race to the Top funds, for example, and now he’s saying “no” to federal control of another state-level program. The business-friendly atmosphere he created in Texas has ensured a thriving economy there, such that Texas doesn’t have need of federal funds, either. No wonder so many Californians have migrated there.
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Austin hardest hit.
portlandon on March 16, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Go get em Rick!! We’re on your side!!!!
itsspideyman on March 16, 2012 at 3:08 PM
You never want californians moving to your state. They start voting for stuff that screwed up their previous state of residence. Liberalism is a virus in this way.
lorien1973 on March 16, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Got that right, portlandon.
OY.
pambi on March 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Obama hates women and babies.
forest on March 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Holding women’s health hostage is a better description.
topdog on March 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM
God Bless TX and Perry! I am so proud of Perry doing this for my state. More R governors need to stand up for their states and aginst bho’s gosh horrible team.
Why do you think holder is going whole hog against the voter ID here in TX, they hate the fact Perry has stood up against them?
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letget on March 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Abortion is the Left’s sacrament.
Abortion is at the end of the Left’s rainbow.
Abortion is the touchstone of liberalism.
For the Left, every little breeze seems to whisper “abortion.”
If they cared about women, they wouldn’t cut funding for women’s health. Why isn’t this considered a “war on women”?
Akzed on March 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Obama, You goin’ to the UN and pout? *sniff*
Electrongod on March 16, 2012 at 3:12 PM
It sounds to me like Obama is the one leading the “war on women”.
cajunpatriot on March 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Looks like Obama is waging war on Texas.
Voter ID laws.
EPA regs.
This war on women and the poor.
HumpBot Salvation on March 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Hey Obama, my sign-in name says it all: Nuts to you, you manipulative, egotistical, chauvinistic pig.
Nutstuyu on March 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Then why is Obama playing politics by denying health care to women?
Kingfisher on March 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM
It’s a damn shame Perry wasn’t better prepared for his Presidential campaign. On paper, dude is one helluva candidate.
Doughboy on March 16, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Abortion is the holy sacrament to the left.
which is why they have to reproduce in the classroom instead of the womb.
wildcat72 on March 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM
With liberals its not the who, its the what. Pathetic display.
Zaggs on March 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Its more, and deeper, than that. This administration has been at war with Texas since the day they took power.
The Perry haters think this was a terrible idea. While I would have liked Texas to have a better plan about what to do when the feds pull the money, I think its a great idea.
But I also think the tenth amendment is the second best amendment there is.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Doughboy,
He was prepared. He was 35 or over, an actual citizen, and resident of the country for the last fourteen years. The media and GOP establishment decided he wasn’t “electable”.
Nutstuyu on March 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Too bad the states do not collect federal taxes and send the money to the feds. That right there would restore some balance.
I think the Fair Tax plan does exactly that. The state is the collector of the fair tiax and funds are transferred to the federal government.
WashJeff on March 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM
I think it’s about time that Obama apologize to Texas.
Kingfisher on March 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Fascist federal government.
rbj on March 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Obamuh must address America about abortion … er, “women’s health.”
Since he likes to “educate” us so much, he should have a “fireside chat,” where he can read some of Margaret Sanger’s writings on abortion … er, “women’s health.”
He’s a “person-of-color,” you know – just the type of person that Margaret Sanger wrote about.
Read on, Mr. President, read on.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Texas should now stop sending any tax revenues (income, sales, etc.) to the Feds!
lhuffman34 on March 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Go Rick Go!
gophergirl on March 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Rick Perry is a Socialist, Illegal-Alien Loving, Dumbass.
/Willard Romneycare
HondaV65 on March 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Outstanding perspective.
Yes, they must worship their god – Narcissus – and sacrifice their children on the altar of abortion.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Or claim eminent domain on any buildings occupied by federal agencies.
Nutstuyu on March 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM
guy should have run for president.
sesquipedalian on March 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM
You give Perry too much credit. Its the state’s philosophy. He rolled with it and helped it, but he didn’t create it.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Don’t send the federal government taxes in equal proportion to the funds that are being denied.
Mord on March 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM
All states should consider that.
darwin on March 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Well I guess this is one of the clearest examples of where the left’s priorities really lie … and it isn’t with women.
When the left accused the Republicans of waging a war on women they apparently didn’t realize it would show them, not Republicans as waging the war.
darwin on March 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Obama is all for womens health except if its a female fetus. So I guess we need bumper stickers that say: Fetuses Need Healthcare Too.
meci on March 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM
When is Obama going to stand up the the defacto leader of the democrat party…Cecile Richards??
HumpBot Salvation on March 16, 2012 at 3:24 PM
What Rick Perry should do, at this point, is this …
See how far Obama wants to take this.
Perry makes a speech … and announces that he’ll continue to fund women’s health services and, he’s not worried about the lack of federal funding. Texas already gets a lot of federal funds and he’ll just go after another federal program and either ask for increases there or implement new programs that come with money from the feds and he’ll make up the gap there.
This is TOTALLY “doable” – federal funds flow into the states through so many vehicles even the feds can’t keep up with them.
“Yeah sure, we’ll fund women’s health and I’ll have Obama build us a new airport to make this a wash.”
Texas wins – only way Obama can fight that is to cut off ALL FEDERAL FUNDING to Texas – and if he does that, he’s got WAR on his hands.
HondaV65 on March 16, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Wake me up when Rick Perry starts withholding tax dollars pouring out of Texas through Fedzilla funnel into Democrat states’ coffers, to be spent on Planned Murderhood support.
Archivarix on March 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Bit slow on the uptake Tina!
This is going to be very interesting to see play out. Perry on the radio today sounds like he’s ready to go to war over this – it’s a conflict between state law and Regime diktat.
Will be watching very closely.
CorporatePiggy on March 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Also, Texas puts in far more than it gets from the feds.
Why won’t the regime pay it’s fair share?
CorporatePiggy on March 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Remember that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is dancing around singing “I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I mean, S-M-A-R-T!”?
It’s so easy to picture Obama doing a version of that every day in the Oval Office. “The Republicans are against women’s health because they won’t fund Planned Parenthood! Let’s cut finding to their whole women’s health program! That’ll show the voters that we care.”
It’s like a lazy parody of a typical liberal. Except it actually happened.
Cyhort on March 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM
This is true, but I wonder why that is…
Would Obama be loyal to the abortion industry no matter what, due to their sacred place in lefty ideology, or would he throw them under the bus with the rest of his allies if the campaign cash ever stopped flowing?
Mr. Prodigy on March 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Kinda outs that whole “compassion” thing from the Collective, don’t it???
Poor women hardest hit.
Like the kids in DC when Obama killed their school choice program.
Tell it to your friends, people. Be a Breitbart…!!!
Ragspierre on March 16, 2012 at 3:29 PM
Sebilius is a nut case. I think she has some serious issues.
pat on March 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Yep. This is what has happened in NC – so many liberal transplants into the research triangle area that the state has gone purple. Very sad state of affairs there – the state is ruined.
Harbingeing on March 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Bit slow on uptake, aren’t you? Yesterday you called Perry stupid for doing this, when you brought it up in another thread.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Abortion is so key to their plans they would never, ever throw Planned Parenthood under the bus. If Obama could get away with it he’d establish a Department of Abortion and mandate that women must have government approval before having any children. Killing children of course would not require government approval.
darwin on March 16, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Just hark back to his infanticide advocacy.
The question then answers itself. He is the MOST homicidal person ever to occupy even a Senate seat.
Ragspierre on March 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Here’s an example of who is running planned parenthood in TX.
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/03/lubbock-planned-parenthood-ceo-arrested-for-indecent-exposure/
HumpBot Salvation on March 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Good thing everyone forced Perry out so we could get Romney/Santorum.
besser tot als rot on March 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Too bad the citizenry cannot deny funding to the Feds.
john1schn on March 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Proud to be a Texan. Perry has more backing than liberals would have you believe.
jazzuscounty on March 16, 2012 at 3:34 PM
I like that idea!
VibrioCocci on March 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM
More like the ware on Texas. Northerners know the state that could start the ball rolling towards a constitutional crisis is Texas. They fear Texas because the warrior class is born in Texas and half the northern population would back Texas against DC. There I wrote it.
pc on March 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Who’s going to pay for coeds contraception now????? The Feds have been bribing the States to do their bidding ever since Carter Admin. (Maybe sooner/or always, but I don’t remember before Carter threatened the States with the cutoff of highway funds on his 55mph mandate over Iran hostage to save gasoline.)
aposematic on March 16, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Don’t Mess with Texas and Gov Perry means it! We are open for business and companies are hiring here – no matter what the statists tell you.
uber-con on March 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Change the Texas constitution – Allow state income and property tax, but only on employees of the federal government(military exempt), federal buildings, and anyone who rents/leases property to the federal government. Use this money to make up for any money withheld by the US government. They withhold more, increase the taxes to cover it.
rww on March 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Fine, let them cut it. Women’s health, or men’s health for that matter, is not the concern of the Federal government. It is not really the concern of the state government, either, but if Perry wants to find funds elsewhere without raising revenue, that’s his perogative.
Mr. Arkadin on March 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Chris Christie wont do anything like this. He loves the gravy train. And the gravy.
faraway on March 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I figured as much… just wanted to see what everyone else thought.
In any case, best of luck to Govna Perry! Clearly, the work he’s doing in Texas could have some broader implications even now that he’s out of the presidential race.
Mr. Prodigy on March 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Why? You just had to let the cat out of the bag…
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM
Hey lorien, just so you know – there are a lot of conservatives in
California (just not enough of them). Most of the California map is red, except for the coastal big cities. A lot of conservatives are leaving CA for TX. I did and have been living in Houston, TX for over 10 years. Best move I ever made. Never once did my long history in CA give me the urge to vote with the libtards on anything.
MarkM on March 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM
This right there will be the undoing of Texas. Its kinda like why Liberals hate the burbs… usually its full of people who just hate more taking then giving from the government bodies… and why the liberals would love for more of those folks in the burbs to be forced to live in the metropolitan areas… because then their conservative ideas get wayyyy watered down by the massive liberal leanings in the cities.
watertown on March 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Maybe women can go to Mexico since they have universal health care.
darwin on March 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Complete 180 in the span of 2 days.
Anyone remember who wrote a good and detailed piece on the complete and total over use of the “war on…” meme? That’s right, Tina Korbe. 2 days ago. Wonder what changed since Wednesday.
tmchugh on March 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Same with people from Mass. and New York. Texas did the right thing. Perry outfoxed the Zer0. (how hard could that be?)
dogsoldier on March 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Be that as it may, I do not want Californians moving to any state and then voting for stupid crap that made their state suck in the first place. On the whole, this is what happens – NC and CO are cases in point. Liberalism is like a virus; and its voters are the zombies infected with it.
lorien1973 on March 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Anywhere in California to Houston…I’m not sure you know the correct meaning of best. Ya’ know, Galveston is only 50 miles south of you. And its not Houston.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Will someone explain to me why the Federal Government should be funding any state health care program in the first place? Which section of the Constitution gives the President (or Congress for that matter) the power to fund state health care programs?
Time Lord on March 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM
As much as I like my guv, Chris Christie is not a conservative. He is a zealous prosecutor, a good financial administrator, and a loudmouth – the feature which I don’t necessarily see as a vice – with a double-headed waraxe to grind with the public unions. He is as classic a RINO as they come. Still, he’s the very best New Jersey could possibly hope for.
Archivarix on March 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM
WWFD?
(What would Fluke do?)
Opposite Day on March 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM
So true, natural born Texan here.. they can go back to the mess that they created. Once they are here, they’ll just fall back into their old ways and vote for the same thing that created their problems in the first place.. all in the name of social justice.
ShadowsPawn on March 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM
It’ll happen, friend, it’ll happen…perhaps sooner than most expect.
But, back to Texas…
Gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.
Obama is approaching the point where his back will be hard against a wall, a very large wall…and how Obama will react then is anybody’s guess.
He’s never had to face real adversity or failure.
Yes, he’d rather see an entire state’s health program get shattered than to give one inch on his favorite issue…going back to his Illinois days…that women’s “right” to choose…even if there is a messy killing involved…trumps everything else.
He appears to actually believe that everything will be done in his name merely because he is Obama…and Constitutionality of anything is something to be ignored…because Obama wants to do it…he said so…and if Obama speaks then the people have to do his bidding…going back to his Indonesia days.
I have this nagging feeling that Obama will come unglued if he sees his kingdom falling down around him and that moment of Götterdämmerung is when he will become most dangerous.
God save the Republic.
coldwarrior on March 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM
Meh, it’s just in the article tags. If the phrase was spammed all over the text of the article, then that would be hypocritical, but I think the tags need to be kept consistent over time so anyone searching the old articles (does anyone do that?) would be able to find everything on the topic all at once.
Mr. Prodigy on March 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Perry needs to off his duff and build that fence…along the northern border.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Wait till those Calif. expats start electing dems in Texas to recreate the entitlements they left behind.For 30 years libs from the north and left coast have migrated into Kevin Phillips’ Sunbelt and changed the political character of the region. On a smaller scale libs from the cities have changed the character of once solid GOP suburbs like Nassau and Suffolk in NY.Between this movement, immigration, and the growing demand among young voters for free everything, the Libs/Progs are looking at a long reign in politics. At least until we become Greece on steroids and crystal meth.
xkaydet65 on March 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM
And by the way, a drastic governmental action such as eminent domain isn’t even required to shut down the dead fetus factories. All it takes is a weekly rotation between sanitary inspections, fire inspections, and state taxation audits.
Archivarix on March 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM
I think its very reckless in this current political environment. Perhaps even stupid. It is certainly electioneering for his own 4th term.
This is another opportunity to paint Republicans as women haters.
Perhaps I should have made the distinction clearer.
Anyway, we’ll see how it works out.
CorporatePiggy on March 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM
‘Federal funds”…..what a joke. The only federal dollars are those that are confiscated from the state, local and individual level, yet they always act like they are doing us a favor by giving us back our own money. Screw them and good for Rick Perry.
tractah on March 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Now imagine if GWBush had defunded sanctuary cities ?
burrata on March 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM
To think how many here at Hot Gas trashed Rick Perry (falsely) for suggesting Texas secede from the union. It seems the Obama Administration is doing everything they can to boot us out!
cartooner on March 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Stay the course, Texas.
J.E. Dyer on March 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Then I would believe his Momma didn’t snip his balls off after he took the second Oath of Office.
Archivarix on March 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Projection at its best. The echo-chamber talk gives great comfort to tortured logic. Cause and effect people. What changed in Texas for this to happen. Rick oopsss…. hotgas perry thinks his one track mind approach to everything will be tolerated like how they kowtow to him in Austin.
0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Possibly, as I replied yesterday, yes, time will tell.
However, now is the perfect time to bring this up. Perry caved when he tried this under the Bush administration and got other goodies from the feds when he did cave. This time, this administration has been attacking Texas and there was nothing to lose. Planned Parenthood’s perceived power has been on a winning streak. If Texas wins this match, the tenth amendment wins and planned parenthood loses.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM
This is a big ole game of chicken. Let’s see who blinks first!
Obviously the dems want to keep birth control front and center so that people are distracted from real issues like the deficit, out of control spending, and global terrorism.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
armygirl on March 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Huh? Was that even in English?
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM
so true, please see new hampshire, as exhibit A
atracksler on March 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM
LOL Cozmo!
armygirl on March 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM
No, what you list are the minimal requirements to be qualified, which isn’t the same as preparation.
The difference between “preparation” and “qualification” is huge. Like the difference between the four guys still running and the work they have done to build up their individual campaigns and get them to work in all the states as needed for their primary contests(…ish. Newt and Santorum not making all the ballots for primaries is kind of a flag) and hopefully thinking about some of the issues likely to come up as to why they want the job versus Saved By the Bell‘s Dustin Diamond who meets the qualifications but has done nothing to prepare for the role.
Early on, Perry did drop the ball in the debates. Obviously looking at all the other candidates gaffes this can be survived but his late entry and large build up before entering gave him some high standards to meet, and it seemed to many (myself included) he hadn’t prepared to meet them and his stumbles took him out, much like Fred Thompson experienced in 08. By coming in late a candidate is placed center stage and that short introduction window is often where people make their initial impression which can be hard to shake later.
First impressions are important and if you showing up to a job interview (which the nomination process is) looking like you really aren’t prepared and are doing things on the fly tends to get you overlooked. If you have enough time you can combat that, in Perry’s case though he was the one who chose the shorter window and thus had less time to fix a bad start.
But it isn’t over for him as the experience, though probably a bit bruising to his ego has brought him attention and now what might have been a side note when it comes to Texas Vs Obama’s government is playing out on a much bigger stage which he can use (or lose if he drops the ball, that risk is there) to fix his image and maybe run for president again as he isn’t of an age where this was his last realistic chance at the office.
With some skill (which one would also hope come mostly from strong values strong principles, but this is politics not fantasy land and obviously everyone operates with an eye down the road)he can revamp the narrative on himself and move forward and try again if he chooses.
Betenoire on March 16, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Guys, I was born in Holly-FLUCKING-wood.
Lived in Kuhlifornia til I was a pre-adolescent.
Went back in the hippy-freak days.
Now I live in Texas…after living in several states…
and I am MORE conservative than most people I know.
It ain’t where you’re FROM…it is what you BRING.
Good Conservative people from anywhere are welcome here.
Ragspierre on March 16, 2012 at 4:00 PM
I though the “0″ at the beginning — zero, not capital-O — was fun.
J.E. Dyer on March 16, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Used to think that way too, but I think it might be the other way. Those that move away see what voting liberal, even if they did it, did to their state and don’t want it to happen again. I believe that’s why the south is solid conservative today. Back in the 80′s when I lived there, yankees started moving there in droves, mostly for the climate. That exodus continues today, though for different reasons. Having voted democrat up north and seeing where it leads, they’re not going down that road again.
msupertas on March 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM
“Obama’s War on Women’s Health.”
that is the caption right below the picture on hotair.com’s homepage.
you are right about the internal text, but are totally overlooking the subhead. She wrote that subhead. It is not an article tag. And it is completely hypocritical.
tmchugh on March 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Essentially, the Feds will be Title X funding in the State of Texas.
A bill that was passed by a Republican President, (Nixon) and championed and bought to the Congress by ANOTHER Republican, George H.W. Bush.
Sounds like this Democrat President is waging a “war on women”
Opposite Day on March 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Austin is the most right wing extremist city in the state. Seriously, beyond 6th street the place is all men in white sheets and hoods.
CorporatePiggy on March 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Does make you wonder what kind of President he would have made.
Bitter Clinger on March 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM
The new Obamanuts we got in the last registration aren’t very bright. Ya’ think the popularity of HotGas would have gotten us some better ones.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Honey, you forgot the (sarc) tag….!!!
Ragspierre on March 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Ezackly! +1
MarkM on March 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM
I tend to disagree. What’s amazing to me that leader-wanna-be’s like Mr. Obama, is that when the shell breaks, it’ll be more like a whimper than a bang. Expect more of stuff like, “After all I’ve done for you!” kind of rhetoric. I’ve seen executives in private industry fold like a house of cards, even when they were supposedly “untouchable” with all their knowledge and wisdom. I’ve seen unimaginable bluster from men (and women) who, one would have thought, had spines of solid titanium. Nixon, who was quite the intimidating fellow to the left, could be argued was one of those people. However, I’d like to believe he actually gave a d@mn about the rest of the country rather than the pursuits of his own ego.
Only proves that the true leaders are made of something far better than what you will ever see in Mr. Obama.
Turtle317 on March 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Texans got it. Everybody else…doesn’t count.
cozmo on March 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM
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