Pew poll: Republicans aren’t sure this long primary is good for the party

posted at 1:20 pm on March 15, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Last month, a majority of Republicans — 55 percent — said they thought the ongoing primary and caucus process is good for the party, according to a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center. Just 36 percent said they thought it was harmful. This month, the same poll showed a slim plurality of Republicans saying the process is positive. Just 47 percent said they think the long primary benefits the GOP, while 43 percent said they think it’s harmful. Political Ticker explains that, not surprisingly, voters’ opinions depend in part on which candidate they’re supporting:

More than half, 52%, of people supporting former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, say the on-going process is bad for the party. But more of his opponents’ supporters see the on-going primary process as good for the GOP with nearly six in ten backers of former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and 53% of supporters of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich responding in favor.

Romney is the front-runner in the race for the nomination. He’s far ahead of his competition in the hunt for delegates, but still less than half way towards the 1,144 delegates needed to lock up the nomination. For Santorum and Gingrich, the best strategy is to make sure Romney doesn’t clinch the nomination by the end of the primary process in late June, and force the nomination battle to go all the way to the party convention in Tampa, Florida in late August.

Consider me in the camp that would have switched my response from last month to this month. But I’ll be completely honest: It’s because I’m panicked, too apt to give the Obama campaign more credit than it deserves. I’m afraid to give Obama more time to hone his magic act while Republicans are squabbling amongst themselves. I’m worried the Obama machine will trounce the GOP nominee — whoever that nominee proves to be — in November.

So I buy the conventional wisdom and the CW goes like this: While it’s technically still possible for Rick Santorum or even Newt Gingrich to capture the nomination, it’s highly unlikely. If Santorum and Gingrich do manage to keep Romney from securing a majority of delegates before August, Romney will likely still win on the first ballot at the convention. At that point, anti-Romney Republicans would have a couple months to muster enthusiasm for him. It’s not going to be easy for conservatives who’ve spent the last six months or so pounding Romney into the ground to be able to approach independents with compelling arguments for him. The more time they have to come around (because they know for a fact their choices are Romney or Obama), the better.

If Newt Gingrich drops out relatively soon and Rick Santorum trounces Romney in state after state from this point forward, then, perhaps, Romney wouldn’t win on the first ballot and enough delegates would switch their allegiance to Santorum in subsequent rounds of voting to throw the nomination to the former Pennsylvania senator. At that point, Santorum would have a couple months to campaign against Obama as the official GOP nominee and it’d be tough. Consider: The last winning U.S. presidential nominee produced by a brokered/contested convention was FDR in 1932. It’s just not that easy to pivot from a last-minute conclusion of a protracted primary process to victory in the general election.

A long primary makes it hard on congressional candidates, too: Donors and voters are too focused on the presidential election to be of much help to other candidates. Yet, the House and Senate are arguably more important than the White House.

Nothing says I’d have to think conventionally about all of this, though: We are in an unconventional election cycle, after all. Obama is unlike any Democrat we’ve ever seen and more and more Americans have seen his true colors over the past four years. He has a record now and the election will be to some extent about that record — more about it than the 2008 election was, at least.

On his radio program yesterday, Rush flat-out said, “Don’t buy the conventional wisdom about a brokered convention.” I wish I didn’t.


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Oh, but steel sharpens steel.

Basilsbest on March 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Oh, but steel sharpens steel.

Basilsbest on March 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Why don’t we just give the national party a big eff you and have all the states vote/caucus at once on the same day? Perhaps the first Tuesday in February? Then it’ll all be nice and settled so we can wait a good long time between then and the convention in the fall.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Every day spent not focused on Obama is a lost day.

Meanwhile, we have to waste more time on this charade with Santorum and Gingrich.

Moesart on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Pointless and long exercise. How many voters these stupid candidates have registered so far? There’s absolutely no long-term view here for the party, just ego-massaging narcissists running.

Apologetic California on March 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Well yeah as long as the Party is protected, always the first concern.

Bishop on March 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I think we need more time to talk to the people about Liar-in Chief. The MSM will avoid that sory effectively for several months.
They have not even vetted him after 3 years!

KOOLAID2 on March 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Come September, and the first debate against Obama, no one will remember that there was a long primary fight. All that will matter is that it is vital for Romney to defeat Obama.

It’s also funny, I don’t remember Pew telling us how bad long primaries are when Obama and Clinton were going at each other through June 4 years ago.

milcus on March 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Oh, but steel sharpens steel.

Basilsbest on March 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Steel is misogynistic!

forest on March 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

It would be nice if every primary counted. What is the media gaining from this narrative of “frustrated” Republicans?

tuffy on March 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

It’s not going to be easy for conservatives who’ve spent the last six months or so pounding Romney into the ground to be able to approach independents with compelling arguments for him.

I would say it’s more likely that it will be difficult for conservatives who’ve been insulted and belittled by Romney supporters to muster enthusiasm for him. Of course this could probably be said about the other candidates supporters as well.

dmn1972 on March 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Here’s a Gallup poll from yesterday: 53% of Republicans want primaries to go on with all candidates.

Thankfully, not everyone goes through life with their tails between their legs, but onwards with the meme of the day.

RepubChica on March 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Didn’t the Democrats have a long primary season with Hillary and Barack???
And that was okay, cool, good for the country, etc, etc, etc….

albill on March 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I don’t remember Pew telling us how bad long primaries are when Obama and Clinton were going at each other through June 4 years ago.

milcus

Exactly. But I do remember everyone around here high-fiving each other as the clinton-obama primary went on and on. Headlines like “greatest primary ever” etc. Look how that turned out.

Granted, democratic voters don’t really care about ideas in their candidates. “Young black guy” just happened to be a bit cooler than “leftist female icon” that year.

bocat on March 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I agree…

… The political elite ruling class and media should pick our candidates and do the vetting process for us. The poll says so.

/

Seven Percent Solution on March 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

We know everyone’s position. All that money could be going for organization and ads against our a$$clown-in-chief. Newt has personalized this because Romney made him mad. Newt, I like you, but get over yourself. Time to end this, unite, and reclaim our country.

msupertas on March 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Tina’s spending too much time with Eeyore AP while Ed merrily pushes the meme. Quit it y’all. Let them primary and we’ll bash Obama for a few more weeks.

DanMan on March 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I’d rather be dead…

NotCoach on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Do you recall the 2008 Dem primaries and how all their squabbling and dragging things out hurt their candidate?

Romney’s shill McShame was on local Chicago radio today dissing Santorum and Gingrich on the irrelevant issue of earmarks and I’m hearing a lot of negative attack ads by Romney in IL today and it’s a real turn-off. Romney’s proving that he’ll eat his own but, should he get the nomination, will he go after Obama with the same negative aplomb? And with McShame in his camp, should we allow the two of them to have the entire spring and summer to tiptoe around Obama and his thugs in their fear of being called racists so we can get our clocks cleaned again in November and have to put up with that America-hating, America-destroying despot for another 4 years? Let it play out. These primaries are the people’s process and I will not be denied.

stukinIL4now on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

LET OBAMA SQUIRM.

Keep it going until Tampa.

Keeps interest going, message getting out, discussing OUR IDEAS when they get through the usual white noise from the whores in the media.

K-E-E-P G-O-I-N-G.

PappyD61 on March 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I’m afraid to give Obama more time to hone his magic act while Republicans are squabbling amongst themselves. I’m worried the Obama machine will trounce the GOP nominee — whoever that nominee proves to be — in November.

So instead of honing his “magic act”, you’d prefer he train all his guns on a single nominee?

Let’s face it, the more he stutters and stumbles through off-the-cuff remarks at campaign events and produces commercials attacking private citizens, the better off our eventual nominee will be.

Lost in Jersey on March 15, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Screw Pew and their worthless polls aiming to steer the narrative to their leftist ends.

ornery_independent on March 15, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Santorum and Gingrich need to gracefully bow out and get Romney get the Obama show on the road.

Gingrich doesn’t stand a chance, and Santorum, the more I look into him, the more he looks like a lunatic.

Let’s go, gentlemen.

crosspatch on March 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Richard Sanctimonious thinks that internet porn is bad for the Party.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

Go Dick Sanctimonious!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Why don’t we just give the national party a big eff you and have all the states vote/caucus at once on the same day? Perhaps the first Tuesday in February? Then it’ll all be nice and settled so we can wait a good long time between then and the convention in the fall.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I agree. If the RNC didn’t want a months-long primary process, why did they set it up that way? The system, the way it is set up now, is prone to too many ebbs and tides controlled by the media narrative. The whole affair is worthless. The bottom line is that the eventual nominee will have been rejected by more than 60% of the voters. The fact that some of the primaries are open to Indies and Dems, the stupidity of it all is exacerbated.

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Obama is unlike any Democrat we’ve ever seen and more and more Americans have seen his true colors over the past four years.

Ed, you are far more optimistic than I am. It seems to me those that drank the kool-aid drank deep. I think those who have “seen the light” after voting for Obama in 2008 are very few.

IcedTea on March 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Who were the idiots who thought this proportional delegate thing was a good idea?

JPeterman on March 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Santorum and Gingrich need to gracefully bow out and get Romney get the Obama show on the road.

Gingrich doesn’t stand a chance, and Santorum, the more I look into him, the more he looks like a lunatic.

Let’s go, gentlemen.

crosspatch on March 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up. I’ve I got that about right?

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

I’m hearing a lot of negative attack ads by Romney in IL today and it’s a real turn-off. Romney’s proving that he’ll eat his own but, should he get the nomination, will he go after Obama with the same negative aplomb?
stukinIL4now on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

From what I’ve heard, many of the ads Romney runs against other Republicans are not even truthful. All we need is another Liar-In-Chief in the White House.

Christian Conservative on March 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Romney needs those eight months so he can tack to the left in order to gain the indedpendent/moderate vote.

/

Night Owl on March 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Just 47 percent said they think the long primary benefits the GOP…

This longer primary season is great for downticket candidates and referenda on as-of-yet undecided primaries. These local and state contests will benefit from a higher turnout due to their presidential primary votes still counting.

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up. I’ve I got that about right?

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Nah, they need to start talking about internet porn.

Not about Obama and the bad economy, internet porn is the winning issue.

Go Richard Sanctimonious,
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Paul, Gingrich GET OUT!

shick on March 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM

I’m hearing a lot of negative attack ads by Romney in IL today and it’s a real turn-off… Let it play out. These primaries are the people’s process and I will not be denied.

stukinIL4now on March 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Yup. And, four calls before noon today. Unbelievable. I told hubby, we are under siege.

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Why don’t we just give the national party a big eff you and have all the states vote/caucus at once on the same day? Perhaps the first Tuesday in February? Then it’ll all be nice and settled so we can wait a good long time between then and the convention in the fall.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Sure, then after they’re picked, the opposition will start vetting and spinning. Our nominee ends up resigning in disgrace over some manufactured scandal with only a month to go leaving us with what?

The current process does actually work better than most alternatives if we let it. I would like to see a juggling of the order of primaries. I’m sick of the wackos in NH setting the tone.

Lost in Jersey on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Santorum and Gingrich need to gracefully bow out and get Romney get the Obama show on the road.

Gingrich doesn’t stand a chance, and Santorum, the more I look into him, the more he looks like a lunatic.

Let’s go, gentlemen.

crosspatch on March 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up. I’veHave I got that about right?

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

This Pew poll really stinks, heh heh.

azkag on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

From what I’ve heard, many of the ads Romney runs against other Republicans are not even truthful. All we need is another Liar-In-Chief in the White House.

Christian Conservative on March 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

From his opponents and the leftwing media right?

And they are totally trustworthy, right?

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Aren’t sure its a good thing? Like having these weak a$$ candidates is? Not a closer in the bunch. Rules or not.

Bmore on March 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up.

Somebody’s going to have to sit down and shut up; that’s the nature of elections. It’ll either be the 65% who reject Romney, or the 70% who reject Santorum, or the 75% who reject Gingrich, or the 80% who reject Paul. Pick one.

Fabozz on March 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

First offf…why are we putting any credence in a Pew Poll Tina?

Oh and I supposed we should have all just bowed down and kissed Romney’s ring because he was annointed? I’m in Jersey and would like to know that Iowa and New Hamshire weren’t making all the decisions.

red131 on March 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Rick Santorum-world policeman, at it again.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

Rusty Allen on March 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Sure, then after they’re picked, the opposition will start vetting and spinning. Our nominee ends up resigning in disgrace over some manufactured scandal with only a month to go leaving us with what?

The current process does actually work better than most alternatives if we let it. I would like to see a juggling of the order of primaries. I’m sick of the wackos in NH setting the tone.

Lost in Jersey on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I was missing a sarc tag, but I didn’t mean that seriously.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Hillary/Barack went into June. Duration isn’t the problem. The GOP’s problem is Newt and Paul putting self interest above the country, thereby unevenly denying votes to the legitimate candidates left in the race.

bigsixfive on March 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

It is a good thing.

tomas on March 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up. Have I got that about right?

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Not “reject” Mittens, but rather “preferred another candidate to Mittens”. Of those 65%, the fraction of those who actually reject him, i.e refuse to vote for him in November, is quite low even on Hot Gas, not to speak of real world.

Archivarix on March 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

DUMP MITT NOW!

Pragmatic on March 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Pick one.

Fabozz on March 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Let the primary races continue, and I will. :)

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Aren’t sure its a good thing? Like having these weak a$$ candidates is? Not a closer in the bunch. Rules or not.

Bmore on March 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Yep. I would call them weak tea candidates.

SparkPlug on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

It’s not the length of the primary that’s the problem, it’s the crappy candidates and the negative ads.

NNtrancer on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Lenghtening the primary process only hurt Mitt Romney, not conservatives. As everyone know, the two are polar oppsitites.

A brokered convention which denies Romney the nomination is the only chance we have to: 1. Get a conservative nominee 2. Beat Obama.

If Romnney is the nominee, Obama wins in a walk.

Norwegian on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Yeah, Bill, where is the story about St. Rick wanting to crack down on internet porn?

Poor baby is so frustrated that no one asks him about his awesome plans for the economy–yet he keeps providing more (and more outrageous) grist for the so-con mill. What a joke Santorum is. He’s the morality police, and Obama will make dern sure everyone knows it if he’s the nominee.

What, Obama screwed up the economy? Why talk about that when we can talk about Ricky’s latest idea to control your private life?

I’m noticing that more people are saying they are sick of politics and exhausted by this primary season.

All the protracted fight is doing at this point is weakening the likely R nominee.

Meredith on March 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Rusty Allen on March 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I think you’re the fourth or fifth worried guy to post that link today. LOL

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Lenghtening the primary process only hurt Mitt Romney, not conservatives. As everyone know, the two are polar oppsitites.

A brokered convention which denies Romney the nomination is the only chance we have to: 1. Get a conservative nominee 2. Beat Obama.

If Romnney is the nominee, Obama wins in a walk.

Norwegian on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Truism! Super mega ultimate DITTOS!!!!!!!!!!!!

DUMP MITT!

DUMPT MITT IN TAMPA!

Pragmatic on March 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Oops. I didn’t see it.

Rusty Allen on March 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Dump Richard Sanctimonious NOW!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Let the primary races continue, and I will. :)

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

That’s just crazy talk! I wonder how many people who want the process to end now have already had their say? Some of us who live in states at the end of the process would like to actually help choose a candidate for once.

Night Owl on March 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

LET OBAMA SQUIRM.

Keep it going until Tampa.

Keeps interest going, message getting out, discussing OUR IDEAS when they get through the usual white noise from the whores in the media.

K-E-E-P G-O-I-N-G.

PappyD61 on March 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Obama isn’t squirming. He’s laughing.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM

This primary season seems drawn out because the former RNC chairman, Michael Steele, wanted it that way. He thought it would create more publicity for the Republican candidate.

But the reason Republicans are complaining about the primary season is because the front runner is not a conservative. He might as well be a double agent for the Democrats.

Dump Willard.

Before he dumps you.

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Lenghtening the primary process only hurt Mitt Romney, not conservatives. As everyone know, the two are polar oppsitites.

A brokered convention which denies Romney the nomination is the only chance we have to: 1. Get a conservative nominee 2. Beat Obama.

If Romnney is the nominee, Obama wins in a walk.

Norwegian on March 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Saved for November 3.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

All the protracted fight is doing at this point is weakening the likely R nominee.

Meredith on March 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

If that likely R nominee is Mitt, then I say good on it. Keep going.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Saved for November 3. 7.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

FTFM.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

This primary season seems drawn out because the former RNC chairman, Michael Steele, wanted it that way. He thought it would create more publicity for the Republican candidate.

But the reason Republicans are complaining about the primary season is because the front runner is not a conservative. He might as well be a double agent for the Democrats.

Dump Willard.

Before he dumps you.

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Bingo. It has created more publicity for Mitt. And that’s NOT a good thing for Mitt.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

If that likely R nominee is Mitt, then I say good on it. Keep going.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Because beating Romney is more important than beating Obama.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Because beating Romney is more important than beating Obama.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I’ll worry about beating Obama when we have a nominee. Until then, your desire to conflate the two goals, both of which I consider short-term goals as a means to an end, is nothing more than a product of your pro-Mitt bias.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

I was missing a sarc tag, but I didn’t mean that seriously.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

oops. Sorry. In that case, I’m with ya.

Lost in Jersey on March 15, 2012 at 2:02 PM

This primary season seems drawn out because the former RNC chairman, Michael Steele, wanted it that way. He thought it would create more publicity for the Republican candidate.

But the reason Republicans are complaining about the primary season is because the front runner is not a conservative. He might as well be a double agent for the Democrats.

Dump Willard.

Before he dumps you.

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Sure – let’s instead elect the candidate running against…gay marriage, Internet porn and the fact that Puerto Rico isn’t entirely English-speaking.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Sure – let’s instead elect the candidate running against…gay marriage, Internet porn and the fact that Puerto Rico isn’t entirely English-speaking.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM

…as opposed to the guy who ran Mass-uh-chew-sits’ health care industry into the ground as an actual chief executive. Brilliant.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM

…as opposed to the guy who ran Mass-uh-chew-sits’ health care industry into the ground as an actual chief executive. Brilliant.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM

So the candidate running against gay marriage, Internet porn and the fact that Puerto Rico isn’t entirely English-speaking, and who lost his re-election bid in his home state by double-digits is a much more effective candidate.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Oh, but steel sharpens steel.

Basilsbest on March 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM

It does….

Too bad Romney’s such a dull blade..:)

idesign on March 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

So is this pretty much where we are?

Rmoney=You’ll vote for me and like it. Got ya by the short hairs.

Newt= I’m now in the role of spoiler.

Santorum= Can’t everyone just bail and let me win this thing?

Dr. Paul= The Peeeoopplee! Fill in the blank yourself.

Bmore on March 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

So, in other words, the 65% of Republicans who reject Mittens should just sit down and shut up. I’veHave I got that about right?

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

As opposed to what, the 78% who reject Santorum, or the 85% who reject Gingrich, or the 88% who reject Paul? You’re arguing a fallacy.

Of the remaining delegates, Rick Santorum must win 69% to reach 1,144 delegates. So far, Santorum has only won 26% of the delegates awarded to date. Even if Gingrich drops out, there won’t be an automatic gravitation to Santorum–largely because of Santorum himself, who comes across as a self-righteous, insufferable prig who throws up like a nun in a porn shop at the sound of JFK’s church-and-state separation speech.

troyriser_gopftw on March 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

So the candidate running against gay marriage, Internet porn and the fact that Puerto Rico isn’t entirely English-speaking, and who lost his re-election bid in his home state by double-digits is a much more effective candidate.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I didn’t say that, Straw Man. I may believe it, but I didn’t say it. He does happen to be the candidate I find the least odious, particularly since many Rombots are saying that Mitt would be “kept in check” with a conservative Republican congress or something, and none of Santorum’s grand plans would come to fruition without an act of congress anyway.

So yeah, he’s the candidate I’m voting for in the primary. Let me know if you need some Preparation H for your butthurt.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

It’s also funny, I don’t remember Pew telling us how bad long primaries are when Obama and Clinton were going at each other through June 4 years ago.

milcus on March 15, 2012 at 1:26 PM

But, the big difference is Dems by and large liked their candidates. Yes, there was animosity toward Obama from the PUMA crowd, but that never materialized into anything substantial, and the hard feelings created during the primary fight mostly dissipated by Nov.

When you’re unhappy with the field to start, though, and decide you REALLY don’t like a candidate or another, a long drawn out process can really be detrimental to the eventual nominee’s chance in Nov.

changer1701 on March 15, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Just 47 percent said they think the long primary rain benefits the GOP, while 43 percent said they think it’s harmful. Political Ticker explains that, not surprisingly, voters’ opinions depend in part on which candidate they’re supporting whether they are a farmer growing crops or a builder building houses.

In other words, another obvious and useless poll.

Bitter Clinger on March 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Why don’t we just give the national party a big eff you and have all the states vote/caucus at once on the same day? Perhaps the first Tuesday in February? Then it’ll all be nice and settled so we can wait a good long time between then and the convention in the fall.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

No kidding.

Lightswitch on March 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Every day spent not focused on Obama is a lost day.

Meanwhile, we have to waste more time on this charade with Santorum and Gingrich.

Moesart on March 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

This +1,000,000

The rules changes that were enacted in the Republican primary process have been detrimental to the cause of getting a candidate up and running against Obama.

The bigotry against Romney’s religion of choice, that is dressed in claims of him being not conservative enough, etc also is a big detractor to this primary season.

Sure, everyone ACTS like they have other bones to pick with him, and some of them are legitimate to be sure, but the main reason people dislike him is his religion.

Because unlike Christianity, Mormonism is a cult! Don’t cha know?

SauerKraut537 on March 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM

He does happen to be the candidate I find the least odious

Yes, he’s the best candidate out there.

Running against pornography. And demanding that Puerto Rico make English its official language. And hating on gays.

That’s going to be a winning campaign if we ever say one.

The problem is that it’s going to be Obama who wins.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I think you’re the fourth or fifth worried guy to post that link today. LOL

Fallon on March 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Lolz.

Lightswitch on March 15, 2012 at 2:26 PM

When PEW states that republicans don’t think a long primary is good for the party you KNOW that it is.

PEW wouldn’t recognize a republican if Sarah Palin walked in their front door.

DannoJyd on March 15, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Pew poll: Republicans aren’t sure this long primary is good for the party
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The GOP Primary (Caucus) 1000 Yard Stare!
(sarc)

canopfor on March 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM

(Testing.)

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM

If that likely R nominee is Mitt, then I say good on it. Keep going.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Because beating Romney is more important than beating Obama.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Who is the viable alternative? At this point there isn’t one. Unless Newt and Ron get out and Santorum wins some decisive victories, it’s going to be Mitt.

Obama has got to go. Hopefully, the Republican party will stop the infighting and turn all attacks on Obama, the sooner the better.

talkingpoints on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

People lose heart during a long campaign. Fortunately, not everyone does.

Every minute of every day, the people who retain their enthusiasm and courage — typically a robust minoroty — are making a difference. The founding of the US itself was not a task universally approved or undertaken. An absolute majority is never moved to the same level of commmitment, or commitment to the exact same vision. It always — alwaysalways — takes the commitment and determination of a minority to get good things done.

Victor Davis Hanson wrote some months back — probably more than a year, in fact — that there is a core of about 60 million people in the US who, with their determined self-sufficiency, ingenuity, ethics, and hard work, carry the rest of the nation, and much of the world, on their shoulders. He was right. A minority has always made the difference. This protracted, competitive campaign is exactly what we need. Don’t give up the ship.

J.E. Dyer on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

That’s going to be a winning campaign if we ever say one.

The problem is that it’s going to be Obama who wins.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM

As opposed to Romney’s continuing defense of Romneycare? Really? You find that to be somewhat less disrespectable than Santorum’s “crusades.” Whatever. I’ve already conceded numerous times here and elsewhere that I think Romney is probably going to get the nomination, brokered convention or no. But I refuse to vote for a candidate I find odious for a nomination I don’t believe he deserves. This, that, or the other thing about Rick Santorum won’t convince me that Mitt Romney is any better.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

But it is good in showing that “Republicans” aren’t really for limited government.

Dante on March 15, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Victor Davis Hanson wrote some months back — probably more than a year, in fact — that there is a core of about 60 million people in the US who, with their determined self-sufficiency, ingenuity, ethics, and hard work, carry the rest of the nation, and much of the world, on their shoulders. He was right. A minority has always made the difference. This protracted, competitive campaign is exactly what we need. Don’t give up the ship.

J.E. Dyer on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

It’s not even 60,000,000. I’d say more like 10,000,000. But yeah.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 2:29 PM

As a voter in a state that all too often didn’t get to vote until the primary race was already decided for a particular candidate, I don’t mind a drawn-out primary at all.

Better to get all the dirty laundry out now, so it’ll be old news by the time Obama tries to attack with it.

And once all this is over, let’s do a complete bipartisan overhaul of the primary system so we can implement something that’ll be fair to all states… like doing five “Super Tuesdays” with ten states each, with the order of states rotating every election year.

TMOverbeck on March 15, 2012 at 2:29 PM

troyriser_gopftw on March 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

RonMe will lose for the same reason that McLame lost. You cannot win a presidential election if the conservatives are against you en masse. ;o)

DannoJyd on March 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM

The Pew Inst. was the one who released that poll about liberals being much more likely to block differing opinions online than conservatives.

And everyone here gave that Pew poll a rah-rah, hear-hear.

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM

The bigotry against Romney’s religion of choice, that is dressed in claims of him being not conservative enough, etc also is a big detractor to this primary season.

Sure, everyone ACTS like they have other bones to pick with him, and some of them are legitimate to be sure, but the main reason people dislike him is his religion.

Because unlike Christianity, Mormonism is a cult! Don’t cha know?

SauerKraut537 on March 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Baloney. I voted for Mitt last time because I despise McCain. His mormonism isn’t why I think Romney bites. His sense of entitlement (we will vote for him in November don’t cha know?), and his liberal record stink.

Lightswitch on March 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM

let’s instead elect the candidate running against ghey marriage, Internet p__n and the fact that Puerto Rico isn’t entirely English-speaking

Of course you know Obama opposes ghey marriage, right?

Of course you realize that Willard opposes internet p__n, right?

As for Puerto Ricans, they can speak Spanish all day long. And they do! But if Puerto Rico wants to become a state, there have historically been certain rules. The CNN blog points out:

In the past, Congress has passed “enabling acts” for territories seeking statehood, and has included provisions requiring English to be the prevailing language as a requirement for admission. The Louisiana Enabling Act of 1811 mandated the new state conduct its official business in the same language as the United States.

In 1906, Congress passed an enabling act requiring Oklahoma use English in its public schools before it obtained statehood.

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Damn, that spam filter was tough!

Emperor Norton on March 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Barack and Hillary fought for the nomination until June.

Hillary insinuated Barack was a Muslim.
Barack insinuated Hillary and Bill are racists.

Stop the drama Hot Gas! Romney will be fine.

The protracted primaries are a good thing to keep him in the news.

scotash on March 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Good Lt on March 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Who here is saying that many Republicans aren’t bed wetters? It seems to me the real argument in this thread is between the bed wetters spraying everything in sight and the non-bed wetters telling them to keep it in their urine soaked panties.

NotCoach on March 15, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I agree. If the RNC didn’t want a months-long primary process, why did they set it up that way? The system, the way it is set up now, is prone to too many ebbs and tides controlled by the media narrative. The whole affair is worthless. The bottom line is that the eventual nominee will have been rejected by more than 60% of the voters. The fact that some of the primaries are open to Indies and Dems, the stupidity of it all is exacerbated.

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I agree with this.

But I will also add that Romney is an undeniably better candidate today than he was even a month ago. This whole process has benefited him – and us, if he’s the eventual nominee – more than it has hurt.

Just Sayin on March 15, 2012 at 2:40 PM

And once all this is over, let’s do a complete bipartisan overhaul of the primary system…

TMOverbeck on March 15, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Let’s not and say we never did.

NotCoach on March 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Somebody’s going to have to sit down and shut up; that’s the nature of elections. It’ll either be the 65% who reject Romney, or the 70% who reject Santorum, or the 75% who reject Gingrich, or the 80% who reject Paul. Pick one.

Fabozz on March 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Most people I know are prepared to support the nominee when the process is complete, which may very well turn out to be a contested convention.

The candidates need to concentrate on the issues and attacking Obama and not each other. If they do that, letting the primary process proceed is not a negative.

It seems to me the only people whining about the process are Romney supporters. They want him coronated and they don’t give a darn what it takes to force it.

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM

I

agree with this.

But I will also add that Romney is an undeniably better candidate today than he was even a month ago. This whole process has benefited him – and us, if he’s the eventual nominee – more than it has hurt.

Just Sayin on March 15, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I can’t argue with that. If he had spent his money selling us on his positives instead of spending it on negative ads, he would be even a better candidate.

NoNails on March 15, 2012 at 2:50 PM

So is this pretty much where we are?

Rmoney=You’ll vote for me and like it. Got ya by the short hairs.

Newt= I’m now in the role of spoiler.

Santorum= Can’t everyone just bail and let me win this thing?

Dr. Paul= The Peeeoopplee! Fill in the blank yourself.

Bmore on March 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yep. Warms the cockles of your heart, doesn’t it?

kim roy on March 15, 2012 at 2:55 PM

On his radio program yesterday, Rush flat-out said, “Don’t buy the conventional wisdom about a brokered convention.” I wish I didn’t.

Rush is often right, but when has Rush ever been right about a national election? Last time around he stubbornly stuck with Fred Thompson until he finally realized how terrible a candidate he was (duh!), then shifted to Romney but by that time it was too late for his endorsement to matter. Strategerizing is not where his strengths lie and he (and others) are doing a lot of damage to the GOP right now.

Buy Danish on March 15, 2012 at 2:56 PM

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