Romney: Very conservative voters might not be with me now but they will be in November

posted at 7:47 pm on March 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via RCP, the key bit comes at around 3:40. This is his whole strategy in a nutshell and I still can’t decide whether to admire him or loathe him for it. He doesn’t care if you trust him. He doesn’t care if his rallies leave you flat. He doesn’t care if pulling the lever for him reduces you to dry heaves in the voting booth. He cares about two things: 1,144 and 270, and he’s likely to achieve at least the first thanks to hard work, careful planning, and the great good luck of having extraordinarily weak competition. Those qualities — high energy, fortitude, diligence, not needing to be liked — could be huge assets in a president if he applied them to enacting a worthy policy agenda, starting with entitlement reform. But I don’t think he’d use them to policy ends; he’d use them to position himself for re-election by pandering to centrists, which means no meaningful entitlement reform or anything else. He’s telling you right here why he’d be such a risk in office to the right. When push comes to shove, you’ll always hold your nose and vote against the Democrat, no matter how annoyed at him you might be. And he knows it — and he doesn’t care. He doesn’t need his base to like him. That’s a recipe for squishiness.

And yet:

Mitt Romney leads the pack in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. He’s also the second pick for enough Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich supporters that if one of them dropped out, Romney would remain the frontrunner.

Romney has the backing of 38 percent of Republican primary voters in a Fox News poll released Wednesday. He’s followed by Santorum at 32 percent, Gingrich at 13 percent and Paul at 12 percent…

In a straight two-way matchup, GOP primary voters prefer Romney to Santorum by 49-44 percent

Meanwhile, a 58-percent majority of primary voters would rather nominate a candidate who is more likely to beat President Obama, even if the candidate is not a true conservative. Less than a third — 31 percent — would pick the true conservative who might be less electable.

Romney actually leads Obama by nine points on the question of who’s best equipped to manage the economy, but head to head overall O leads by four. The key data point:

That’s a nice trend for Mitt, but again — he doesn’t care either way. The magic number is 270. If it all comes from column two instead of column one, hey.

Here’s his interview today with Megyn Kelly. Watch for the part where she asks him whether Newt should drop out; Romney, who I think is benefiting considerably from Gingrich’s perseverance notwithstanding the poll data above, conveniently has no opinion. There’s a fun exchange on the mandate at the very end too, but that’s because of the old clip Kelly chose to torment him with. In that same vein, via BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski, watch the second one below on the vagaries of “ultimate conservatism.”



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I will vote for anyone who runs against the lefts’ messiah and I am extremely conservative.

BillCarson on March 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM

You have gotten too used to settling for third best, and that will lead you to voting for tax raising, 0bamacare crafting, RINO RonMe which should cost you a lot of sleepless nights.

DannoJyd on March 15, 2012 at 1:04 PM

To beat Obama. No matter how Mitt’s detractors blather on, he’s the best shot we’ve got to realistically achieve that goal.

Slainte on March 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Isn’t that what the insiders also said about McLame? Why, YES IT IS!

Damn shame you folks won’t be able to blame Sarah this time.

DannoJyd on March 15, 2012 at 12:14 PM

They already are because of her talk about a brokered convention, The Mittbots are now laying the groundwork to avoid accepting blame for supporting a political idiot like Romney.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Seriously, as has been explained to you before, most of America doesn’t like fire-breathing idealogues.

Let me express that to you again: YOU might LOVE red-meat, bomb-throwing conservatives like Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin, who gleefully call Obama a socialist or what-not.

MOST of America does NOT like that. Like, at all.

So Romney is going with the safer, though less satisfying to YOU, strategy of just, politely, calling Obama a “well-meaning”, but incompetent, buffoon. When you want Romney to call Obama a diehard socialist who’s ultimate goal has always been the destruction of the Republic.

Vyce on March 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Obama is a socialist. In fact, the overwhelming body of evidence indicates he’s a full-fledged communist. This “nice” guy has raided the US treasury to pay off his bundlers and donors. His cabinet is filled with card-carrying radical leftists with all sorts of books, papers, speeches that aren’t the work of “nice” guys (communists/socialists–that’s what leftists are). This “nice” guy thinks it’s OK for black panthers with billy clubs to intimidate non-obama voters at polls. This “nice” guy prosecuted 3 Navy Seals and tried to ruin their careers. This “nice” guy is telling wounded veterans to get their own medical care. This “nice” guy called me a filthy name (teab*****). This “nice” guy is destroying our gas and oil industry. This “nice” guy literally dissolved the legislative process to take over 1/6th of our economy. This “nice” guy stole money from secured bondholders to hand a company over to the unions. This “nice” guy closed down drilling in the Gulf and Alaska. This “nice” guy won’t build the Keystone Pipeline because he wants Canada to send their oil to China. This “nice” guy wants my 401K money (I have no right to it—he and his coherts on the Hilll have already had two hearings on the proposal); this “nice” guy has literally attacked the tenents of a church’s beliefs–the biggest attack since Henry VIII confiscated the monastaries. This “nice” guy is making ME pay for his filthy rich friend’s Chevy Volt; this “nice” guy is behind sending weapons to drug cartels in order to close gun shops along our border; this “nice” guy wants children taught the specifics of gay sex in kindergarten; this “nice” guy has his picture replacing the stars in our flag; this “nice” guy charges me $400,000 to take his wife on a date….this “nice” guy has gone to our enemies and told them we are an awful country full of awful people.

I could literally go on and on and on and on. His outrages aren’t accidental. And Mitt Romney going along with the Democrat meme that Obama is a victimized “moderate” tells me Romney doesn’t know squat about Obama’s real record or real history (what we know of it, of course—most of it has been hidden).

Obama is either an idiot or he’s doing all this on purpose. I don’t think Obama is stupid.

Portia46 on March 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

They already are because of her talk about a brokered convention, The Mittbots are now laying the groundwork to avoid accepting blame for supporting a political idiot like Romney.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

I take issue with calling Romney a “political idiot.” He’s no idiot. If he were, he’d have already dropped out. Idiots don’t get as far ahead in the delegate count as he is. Whatever else you want to say about Mitt Romney’s policies and attendant gubernatorial career, the man is no idiot.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

You need glasses. Santorum is the only one of the candidates that rejected all attempts at socialized medicine. Romney is the kind of guy who will implement an individual mandate while explaining to you that it was the small-government free-market “solution” that everyone really wanted.

tom on March 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Actually, I think that Santorum supported the individual mandate in the nineties, and it used to be supported by the Heritage Foundation. There is a conservative argument to be made for the individual mandate with respect to the free rider problem…

ghostwriter on March 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

You would be wrong. One reporter suggested he did, but that reporter was wrong,as clearly shown by video available on CSpan where he debated the notion of a mandate with his opponent that year.

Heritage Foundation supported a mandate for (cheap) catastrophic healthcare only, and that was an alternative to Hillarycare that was being pushed at the time. Romney implemented a mandate for (expensive) comprehensive healthcare, and not under the threat of a Hillarycare implementation.

That’s right. Romney started with the compromise position when it was no longer necessary to compromise, and then went much further. Not exactly a conservative stalwart.

Or, for that matter, a good negotiator.

tom on March 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM

@ milcus.

You make some good points, but you lapse into the same flawed assumptions about non-Romney supporters that you decry in the non-Romney’s, and the same BS pro-Romney rhetoric that all his supporters use. A few points.

1. There is a difference between Mitt “pandering” to people whom he knows won’t vote for him, and crapping all over them.

2. You wrongly shove all anti-Romney’s into one category: haters who won’t see the flaws in their candidate. That is NOT true of myself and a lot of anti-Romneys. I see flaws in all the candidates, and few differences between them. I don’t like any of them. Romney’s biggest supporters here do exactly what you claim his opponents do, gloss over his flaws, and attack his opponents.

3. How hypocritical of you to say someone has no credibility for referring to Romney by a nickname, when all I see here is crap like Sweater Vest Rick and serial adulterer Newt from the folks on YOUR SIDE.

4. I voted for Santorum in the primary because I don’t trust Mitt to govern as a conservative. No, I don’t KNOW how either of them would govern, but I can look at Mitt’s record in MA and his statements, and there are two red flags that jump out at me. The first is Romneycare. Like it or not, that is a huge black mark on his record. I do not trust him to do what he says he will do about Obaacare. The second is his flip-flops, but particularly the one on abortion. He clearly has a history of telling voters what he thinks they want to hear, in order to get elected. That is why I don’t trust him, and, YES, I realize all the candidates do that to some extent, but Mitt seems much worse.

5. Santorum has some votes I don’t approve of, but overall he has a pretty strong conservative rating, and I have no reason to believe his irrational haters who screech about him wanting to legislate his morality on the country. He has also, contrary to his haters, talked about his own ideas to fix our fiscal problems, and he has not “talked about nothing but social issues.” His detractors just pretend he hasn’t.

JannyMae on March 15, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Janny, I appreciate your response.

Here is how I would respond:

1. I do not feel that Romney has ever crapped all over conservatives. I think he has made an effort to appeal to those voters. However, they have been reluctant to support him. However, I really do not think Mitt Romney has ever crapped on them. Nevertheless, at some point, if those voters refuse to support him, I do think he has to stop trying to court them, and win by appealing to the voters that do like him in the Republican primary.

2. It’s easier to lump people together for the sake of making points. It is hyperbole more than anything. I actually agree with you about the candidates being flawed. I fully ackoledge Romney is a flawed candidate. But he is the best candidate that we have. And Romney’s weaknesses, in a general election, are much easier to mask than Rick Santorum’s are.

3. I have never once referred to any candidate (actually, maybe I have one time, in anger), or politician for that matter, by anything other than their names. I respect Rick Santorum as a person, even if I do not think he has any business running for president. And I will always call Obama either Obama or President Obama because the office he holds has afforded him that courtesy.

4. That is fair, and you have a right to vote your gut. I have attempted to explain why the two things you said should not be knocks on him. Unfortunately, his team is doing a bad job of explaining why his record is what it is, and keep allowing the notion of him being wishy-washy to be kept alive.

5. Again, contrary to what I say about his electability, I actually like Rick Santorum. If he ran for the Senate again, I would write him a check to support his campaign. But you just explained the problem with Rick Santorum. Without him solely talking about social issues, there is a perception of him being only about the social issues. What would happen against Obama? Obama, and the media, would make this campaign about social issues, and shift the focus from Obama’s record. As a result, Santorum, and down-ticket Republicans, would have a very difficult election night.

milcus on March 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM

And Rick, who endorsed Specter over Toomey, is distinctly more conservative?
If you say Newt is more conservative, we’ll all know you’re just kidding about all this.
And if you’re a Paulbot, you don’t want to advance conservatism anyway, so there’s no sense discussing it.

itsnotaboutme on March 14, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Than Romney? Santorum and Newt are both far more conservative. Even Paul is more conservative, once you get him away from foreign policy.

tom on March 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Marcus Traianus on March 15, 2012 at 9:01 AM

More of this Marcus! Well said!

This post wins the most articulate of the day, I say Dittos Marcus.

Fleuries on March 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

. Without him solely talking about social issues, there is a perception of him being only about the social issues. What would happen against Obama? Obama, and the media, would make this campaign about social issues, and shift the focus from Obama’s record.

Yeah, like they are going to be respectfullyu pleasant to the very rich white guy who created Obamacarte for the left and fully supported things like Gay pride day, pro-choice etc.

I listened to your discourse-but to reject a candidate because the entrenched communist media won’t be fair to him is ludicrous.Frankly, I vote for the man or woman that the leftist media will attack the most.

Don L on March 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

This post wins the most articulate of the day, I say Dittos Marcus.

Fleuries on March 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Really? Cause I ain’t feeling particularly reached out to by the Rmoney folks. Must be my fault? Sure then, whatever you Rmoney folks say. /

Bmore on March 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Marcus Traianus on March 15, 2012 at 9:01 AM

More of this Marcus! Well said!

This post wins the most articulate of the day, I say Dittos Marcus.

Fleuries on March 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Agreed. Wish there was more of that level of commentary around here.

Drew Lowell on March 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

They already are because of her talk about a brokered convention, The Mittbots are now laying the groundwork to avoid accepting blame for supporting a political idiot like Romney.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Yeah, and Richard Sanctimonious is a political genius?

Hey, let’s not talk about Obama or the economy, let’s talk internet porn.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

GO DICK SANCTIMONIOUS!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Once they know you will heel and fall in line, they’ve got you where they want you.

Christien on March 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Apologies for only reading the first couple pages of this thread, where I read some terrible disinformation.

First, Captain numbnuts lost in 2008 because the base would not vot for him and approximately 10% of us stayed home. I did not. Despite myself I voted for a low life RINO who would largely have landed us exactly where we are right now.

The base could not stomach McCain.

Memo to the ANBODY BUT ROMNEY people. Trust me, I understand the ickiness of it all, but DO NOT STAY HOME. AT LEAST GO VOTE IN YOUR STATE, LOCAL, AND CONGRESSIONAL RACES. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. We cannot have another 4 years of Barack/Nancy/Harry.

SouthernGent on March 14, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I will even write someone in for President who is most fit for the position.

I will never vote for Romney. He is a socialistic, aristrocratic jackass. RomneyCare, ok? He can lie about that all he wants.

dogsoldier on March 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

He’ll have my vote.

NotEasilyFooled on March 15, 2012 at 2:12 PM

I will even write someone in for President who is most fit for the position.

I will never vote for Romney. He is a socialistic, aristrocratic jackass.

dogsoldier on March 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

As someone who wants President Obama to be re-elected, I fervently hope your view is widespread.

If the hate-filled delusions of anti-Romney voter can help protect the President from the hate-filled delusions of the anti-Obama voter, so be it!

Drew Lowell on March 15, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Has anybody started a pool for predicting Romney’s “My friends” moment?

Christien on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Very conservative voters might not be with me now but they will be in November…”

You are in for a hideous surprise come November Willard Fillmoure Romneycare. I fall in line for nobody, and there are other remedies to fixing the government than worthless liberals like YOU.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Hey, let’s not talk about Obama or the economy, let’s talk internet porn.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

GO DICK SANCTIMONIOUS!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Who’s tired of the contraception debate? Not Rick Santorum.
“One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is, I think, the dangers of contraception in this country,” he said in an interview with CaffeinatedThoughts.com. “It’s not OK. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

The guy is obsessed with the fact that people have sex for reasons other than procreation. The concept of it being enjoyable escapes him.
To quote Maude Lebowski “It can be a natural, zesty enterprise”

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM

You’re not conservative if you don’t vote to oust Obama. Period.

Swerve22 on March 14, 2012 at 7:54 PM

You’re no conservative if you continue to reward the Republican party of giving us piles of s*&^ like Mitt Romney. Talk about perverse incentives.

Actually that’s an insult to a pile of sh*&. Sorry fecal matter. You didn’t deserve that.

No way no how, will I cast a ballot for Romney. I would sooner die, and watch everything around me fall to ash, I will NEVER give my consent to that man’s governance. NEVER.

Let it all burn down first.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Thanks for reminding me who I have to blame for medical socialism, $5 trillion in new Federal debt, about 10,000 pages of crippling new Federal regulation, 14% unemployment, two new retarded Supreme Court judges, dozens of fascist executive orders, a racist Department of Justice, and the worst recovery from recession in modern history.

Yup. I know who to blame s*&^%$#d – political leeches like MITT ROMNEY and the people who vote for him.

I will abstain.

Therefor I am not responsible, you can all throw yourself off a cliff, I am in no way responsible for your committing suicide behind a useless democrat like Mitt Romney.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Those of you who claim to be conservatives but won’t support Romney if he happens to be the nominee are just as foolish as the left. You’re really willing to allow Obama four more years of destruction to our Constitution and our way of life all because Mitt is not as conservative as you? What a bunch of immature blowhards you are. Grow the hell up! This election is bigger than you and your silly preconceived notions.

jawkneemusic on March 14, 2012 at 8:24 PM

This election is bigger than your robot liberal democrat Mitt Romney and the republican party.

If it has to die, then it has to die.

Welcome to the whigs mother f*&^%$. This is a replay if the 1850′s. The republican establishment and the RINOS suporting Willard Fillmoure Romneycare are placing themselves on the wrong side of history regarding the most critical issue of our generation – Obamacare.

Just like the compromise of 1850, if the republicans stand on the wrong side of this issue by supporting Barak O’Romney, then they are as done as dickens.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:53 PM

So after all you Mitt haters finally leave the party someday, eventually, not today but when the time comes you’ll show us boy howdy, will you still be on HA everyday telling us over and over how much you’re leaving? Vote for Mitt or don’t but try to get over yourselves.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Thanks God that HA so called “true conservatives” are not in fact the voice of the real conservativies in the country. The real conservatives are in the majority, the ones backing the candidate best suited and prepared to defeat Obama. True conservaties don’t take their marching orders from Rush or Levin or Allahpundit. True conservatives think for themselves and true conservatives are backing Mitt Romney vomiting at the horrifying prospect of Willard Fillmoure Romneycare President in 2012, and will be looking to start a new political party in 2013.

tpw on March 14, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Fixed it for you.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:57 PM

So after all you Mitt haters finally leave the party someday, eventually, not today but when the time comes you’ll show us boy howdy, will you still be on HA everyday telling us over and over how much you’re leaving? Vote for Mitt or don’t but try to get over yourselves.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I’ll type as much as I like, if you got a problem with that, tough s*&^. Don’t read my little words if they piss you off. Nobody tells me what to do mittbot.

Nobody.

Now wander off and be a google little sheeple like you’re told. Baaaaaaaaaaa….

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Silverdeaf the liberal troll is at it again. How much does Comrade Barry pay you anyway? With your supreme spamming skills you must get paid per comment.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Now wander off and be a google little sheeple like you’re told. Baaaaaaaaaaa….

God I hate this phones auto spell correct.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Silverdeaf the liberal troll is at it again. How much does Comrade Barry pay you anyway? With your supreme spamming skills you must get paid per comment.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 3:00 PM

You so wish. No sir/maam whatever. I am a God fearing christian who realizes that the republican establishment has become more and more of an impediment to fixing this nation than a help. I watch it digest, destroy and murder it’s own figurative children, and then replace them with soulless east-coast liberal democrats like Willard Fillmoure Romneycare, and then, after rigging the primary against his challengers, stealing delegates, changing election laws on the flay, and turning away votes en-mass, demands those disenfranchised “fall into line?”

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Like.
Hell.

Go back to chewing your cud sheep-person. But stay the hell out of the way of those of us who are acting in the true spirit o this nation’s founders. Those of us willing to sacrifice, suffer, and die for our beliefs.

Callow little appeasers, looking to placate the democrats with a Democrat republican.

Got to hell.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I’ll type as much as I like, if you got a problem with that, tough s*&^. Don’t read my little words if they piss you off. Nobody tells me what to do mittbot.

Nobody.

Now wander off and be a google little sheeple like you’re told. Baaaaaaaaaaa….

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM

It’s so funny to see liberals act tough. “Nobody tells me when I can and can’t type characters, I’ll type all I want both alpha and numeric so there!”
oooohhh what a he-man. Type away little man!

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Mitt Romney is a walking disaster area, I read it in the original Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics.

tom daschle concerned on March 15, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I take issue with calling Romney a “political idiot.” He’s no idiot. If he were, he’d have already dropped out. Idiots don’t get as far ahead in the delegate count as he is. Whatever else you want to say about Mitt Romney’s policies and attendant gubernatorial career, the man is no idiot.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Deliberately fracturing one’s own base is not a bright move.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Yeah, and Richard Sanctimonious is a political genius?

Hey, let’s not talk about Obama or the economy, let’s talk internet porn.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/vigorous-santorum-crackdown-may-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

GO DICK SANCTIMONIOUS!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Wipe the drool off of your chin, Mittbot, I don’t support Senator Censor.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I think he will do that with his VP pick..:)

Dire Straits on March 14, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Unless his VP pick also includes him saying in writing that he will kill himself immediately upon taking the oath of Office…

/pass

(Although, in hindsight, I do believe that the above scenario is actually the one way I’d actually cast a vote for the man…)

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

It’s so funny to see liberals act tough. “Nobody tells me when I can and can’t type characters, I’ll type all I want both alpha and numeric so there!”
oooohhh what a he-man. Type away little man!

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Why does Mitt Romney and so many of is firmest supporters call people more conservative then them liberals?

Is it projection you think?

Is it that they simply assume everybody else is lying about being conservatives in the same manner they are?

Fruit to ponder…

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

It’s so funny to see liberals act tough. “Nobody tells me when I can and can’t type characters, I’ll type all I want both alpha and numeric so there!”
oooohhh what a he-man. Type away little man!

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Why does Mitt Romney and so many of is firmest supporters call people more conservative then them liberals?

Is it projection you think?

Is it that they simply assume everybody else is lying about being conservatives in the same manner they are?

Fruit to ponder…

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Exactly, they’ve lobotomized away any set of principles or human decency just like their self-befouled leader and then project their evils onto others.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Romney’s DEMAND, as supported by the Mainstream Media and this website, that Conservative Voters “Reach Out” to HIM – AND that he HAS NO OBLIGATION to Reach Out To Conservative Voters – reminds me of THIS story:

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/14/200577.html

“Moroccan girl commits suicide after being forced to Marry her rapist”

A 16-year-old Moroccan girl has committed suicide after a judge ordered her to marry her rapist, according to Moroccan media reports.

Last year Amina’s parents filed charges against their daughter’s rapist, a man 10 years older than her but it was only recently that a judge in the northern city of Tangier decided that instead of punishing him, the two must be married.

The court’s decision to forcibly marry Amina to her rapist was supposed to “resolve” the damage of sexual violation against her, but it led to more suffering in the unwelcoming home of her rapist/husband’s family.

Traumatized by the painful experience of rape, Amina decided to end her life by consuming rat poison in the house of her husband’s family, according to the Moroccan daily al-Massae.

According to the newspaper, this type of forced marriage is rooted in local rural traditions to safeguard the honor of girls who are raped.

Moroccan penal code exempts a rapist from punishment if he agrees to marry his victim.

williamg on March 14, 2012 at 9:53 PM

This is very apt. I am more than willing to commit electoral suicide rather than be Mitt Romney’s neglected, taken fro granted prison-slut. When he pats on the bench next to him in the prison cafeteria, with his slasher-smile and rape-gleam in his eye, I will defiantly flip-him-the-bird, even though that means death in the showers by shiv only a short time later.

The republican party will not learn it’s lesson without pain. They have chosen the wrong time in history to play chicken with their base. If only the republicans had the testicular fortitude to play as rough with the Obama as they do with their own supporters – if they did we might be a few trillion less in debt.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Deliberately fracturing one’s own base is not a bright move.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 3:17 PM

But in this case, it might actually secure Romney the nomination. Whether that is more akin to brilliant political chess or Romney upending the board is yet to be seen.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

But in this case, it might actually secure Romney the nomination. Whether that is more akin to brilliant political chess or Romney upending the board is yet to be seen.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM

It’s called winning the battle and loosing the war.

It’s also called repeated the same mistakes made by the whigs. What came out of that was… Buchanan. And what came out of him was… well…

Full Disclosure: Long Grey and Blue Uniforms.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

awesome! Stick it to the socons for once. If they don’t like it they can bow to Obama for another term.

hanzblinx on March 15, 2012 at 3:52 PM

I continue to be amazed by the trucons foolishness and nativity.

1. Romneycare was a bad piece of legislation. State legislation. It continues to be popular with the people of Massachusetts and abides by the tenth amendment. Romney has said multiple times he will repeal obamacare, an awful, freedom killing federal mandate. Romney has pledged to do a lot of conservative things once being elected and has Had to become more conservative to try and appeal to the GOP base, Reagan was also a former governor of a blue state who came from California where he signed some questionable laws at the state level. We know how that turned out.

2 Rick Santorum has come out and said he wants to crack down on Internet porn. He has said he will talk about contraception and how it is harmful to women. He believes Satan is attacking America through Protestant churches and that the separation of church and state makes him want to vomit. Rick Santorum opposes right to work and has a terrible voting record where he cast votes that funded planned parenthood and earmarks for excess spending. He is an ardent supporter of SOPA legislation and related bills to kill Internet free speech. He believes women aren’t for combat roles. He believes Americans “have no real right to privacy” in their own homes.

Rick Santorum may be the worst politician I’ve ever seen. He is a legislator, who believes government offers all the solutions to big problems, moral and economic. He is campaigning to make the government more involved with your life, and is totall unapologetic about it. Romney has his flaws, but he is at least campaigning as a conservative despite his past. Rick Santorum is campaigning as a religious democrat, and I’m assuming he will govern as one.

1984 in real life on March 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

It’s called winning the battle and loosing the war.

It’s also called repeated the same mistakes made by the whigs. What came out of that was… Buchanan. And what came out of him was… well…

Full Disclosure: Long Grey and Blue Uniforms.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Yeah yeah. I know. I don’t necessarily disagree. I’m just not big on predicting the future.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

continue to be amazed by the trucons foolishness and nativity.

1. Romneycare was a bad piece of legislation. State legislation. It continues to be popular with the people of Massachusetts and abides by the tenth amendment. Romney has said multiple times he will repeal obamacare, an awful, freedom killing federal mandate. Romney has pledged to do a lot of conservative things once being elected and has Had to become more conservative to try and appeal to the GOP base, Reagan was also a former governor of a blue state who came from California where he signed some questionable laws at the state level. We know how that turned out.

2 Rick Santorum has come out and said he wants to crack down on Internet porn. He has said he will talk about contraception and how it is harmful to women. He believes Satan is attacking America through Protestant churches and that the separation of church and state makes him want to vomit. Rick Santorum opposes right to work and has a terrible voting record where he cast votes that funded planned parenthood and earmarks for excess spending. He is an ardent supporter of SOPA legislation and related bills to kill Internet free speech. He believes women aren’t for combat roles. He believes Americans “have no real right to privacy” in their own homes.

Rick Santorum may be the worst politician I’ve ever seen. He is a legislator, who believes government offers all the solutions to big problems, moral and economic. He is campaigning to make the government more involved with your life, and is totall unapologetic about it. Romney has his flaws, but he is at least campaigning as a conservative despite his past. Rick Santorum is campaigning as a religious democrat, and I’m assuming he will govern as one.

1984 in real life on March 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

More explosive false dilemmas.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Yeah yeah. I know. I don’t necessarily disagree. I’m just not big on predicting the future.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The dilemma is that the past is quickly becoming a window into what’s over the horizon… and it’s ugly.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Charlie Crist your phony campaign

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Bottom line is what Rich Lowry said, nobody ever regretted hiring Mitt Romney, and electability is not a trivial matter.

This.

Priscilla on March 14, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Ask the Gun-owners in Mass who “hired” Mitt if they regretted the man… after the assault weapons ban Willard shoved up their @$$ I can’t imagine they were thrilled with the democrat…

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I feel the same way about Mitt Romney as you do about Charlie Crist

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM

So after all you Mitt haters finally leave the party someday

Yeah the GOP won’t be able to muster up a quarum for their annual RINO rewards meetings, unless they borrow some zombie voters from their friends across the aisle?

Don L on March 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM

People laughed at me when I warned about Romney, Coulter and the establisment in the 2008 primary… where in the world are you clowns now

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Ok so I should just not believe anything Santorum has said, got it.

The guy should not be running for president , he should be trying to establish his own little Christian dictatorship in the middle east somewhere, that’s how bad he is. I don’t want to choose between a Marxist and a religious statist come November.

1984 in real life on March 15, 2012 at 4:52 PM

People laughed at me when I warned about Romney, Coulter and the establisment in the 2008 primary… where in the world are you clowns now

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Nothing has changed, people are still laughing at you.

1984 in real life on March 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM

I am a God fearing christian …
Go back to chewing your cud sheep-person. But stay the hell out of the way of those of us who are acting in the true spirit o this nation’s founders. Those of us willing to sacrifice, suffer, and die for our beliefs.
Callow little appeasers, looking to placate the democrats with a Democrat republican.
Got to hell.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I can tell by your hatred and nastiness coupled with your penchant for vulgarity that you are indeed a God fearing christian conservative with staunch principles.
You really wonder why anyone would think you’re a liberal? You act like one. You have as much class and integrity as Bill Maher.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM

A voter who stays home and does not vote is voting for Obama. PERIOD!

Voter from WA State on March 14, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Sorry. That does not work anymore. The Republican party has been playing this chicken game for years now, forcing crap-weasels like Ford, Dole, Bush I, and McWeenie on us.

You hold a loaded pistol to our children’s heads, and threaten to pull the trigger.

No more.

We will not bow down and allow you to use such thuggery on us anymore. We will not lick your hands in submission any longer. Not for one more second will we play the role of battered spouses… cowering in the corner, with a fat lip and a black eye, while party machine republicans roll up their sleeves, and tell the conservatives to “get in line.”

No.

Got to hell.

You have used up the scare tactics card. It’s empty. You have abused us, taken us fro granted, and raped us so often, and so viciously, that it does not hurt anymore.

Your gun is empty. We can’t feel you hitting us anymore.

Romney is your pet monkey, not ours. You wanted him, you got him. Win without us. It should not matter after all. So many of you rombots have spent the better part of the last 6 months telling all of us conservatives how we are useless anyways.

So go to hell. We will have no part in your lousy candidate, and we bear no responsibility when he looses.

After all, “we are unneeded outliers to quote several people.”

Go win without us then.

Because you will have to.

Our job as conservatives is to steel ourselves and our families to pick up the shattered pieces of this nation once Obama or Romney is finished bringing it to ruin.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM

No way no how, will I cast a ballot for Romney. I would sooner die, and watch everything around me fall to ash, I will NEVER give my consent to that man’s governance. NEVER.

Let it all burn down first.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Says the Obama groupie!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM

People laughed at me when I warned about Romney, Coulter and the establisment in the 2008 primary… where in the world are you clowns now

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

LOL!!!!!!

STILL laughing at you!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Any so-called “conservative” who does not do eveything in their power to eject Obama from the Whitehouse (including voting for Romney) is NOT A CONSERVATIVE or a PATRIOT. I am not a big fan of either Rick or Newt but I would surely make it a mission to vote for either over Obama. Romney-haters, do you despise this great nation enough to hand it over to Obama for another 4 years? Apparently you do – if it’s Romney versus Obama and you stay home or vote 3rd party – you might as well give your vote to Obama.

BabysCatz on March 15, 2012 at 12:20 AM

/dismiss.

The conservatives done done being shoved around by goons like you. You already broke our knees with a Louisville slugger. Now when you and your thugs come walking around demanding protection money, you get a defiant stare.

You used up all of our goodwill – it’s gone. You stuffed one too many useless human garbage RINOS down our throat – like mobsters that got too greedy, and now there is nothing left to extort out of us.

You are not us anymore. You have moved away from our values, from our beliefs, and mocked us. You have shoved us aside until we were needed to get you elected or fill your coffers.

We are through with these stupid games, threats, and disrespect of our core ideals. We are though with your false dilemmas.

From this point on, you want our votes, then by god, earn then.

We are not Republicans anymore. You shoved, kicked, and threw us all out. You spit bile, vitriol, and derision on us till we could bear your presence no longer.

And by God, if you ever want out support again, you will earn it. God-d*&^n you, you and your ilk will earn it.

If not, then to hell with you.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 5:24 PM

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM

What a loser mentality you have. If Newter gets out – or is forced out – you have your chance at Conservatopia with SoContorum leading the way. Just because the Rominator is way more acceptable to moderates and swing voters – doesn’t mean he has a lock. You can’t lay down now.

But Mittens has heroically saved some people from certain peril.

FlaMurph on March 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I can tell by your hatred and nastiness coupled with your penchant for vulgarity that you are indeed a God fearing christian conservative with staunch principles.
You really wonder why anyone would think you’re a liberal? You act like one. You have as much class and integrity as Bill Maher.

Buttercup on March 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Here is where you logic breaks down: “Good does not necessarily equal Nice.” Nice was 20 years ago. Nice was 500,000,000,000 in national debt. We are beyond the point of “nice.” Nice is out the window, and dead. Moderation is done. Compromise is done.

Right now is fight like your gonna die time. Gloves are off.

16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as
shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
17 Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the
local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings
as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or
how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father
speaking through you.
21 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child;
children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the
end will be saved.

28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth.
I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to turn `a man against his father, a daughter
against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law –
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me
is not worthy of me;
anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me
is not worthy of me;
38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me
is not worthy of me.
39 Whoever finds his life will lose it,
and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 5:57 PM

People laughed at me when I warned about Romney, Coulter and the establisment in the 2008 primary… where in the world are you clowns now

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

LOL!!!!!! STILL laughing at you!

Gunlock Bill on March 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Seriously, do you have strings attached to your back when you said that?

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Sorry, but I have to post this before I go… more evidence Fox News is SHILLING for Romney. See below. (1/2)

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Romney shill Fox News analyst and pollster Frank Luntz caught on tape (2/2)

apocalypse on March 15, 2012 at 6:15 PM

“I know that it’s popular today to say ‘oh, we don’t someone who looks like he’s establishment,’” Romney said on the call. “And I know the term ‘establishment’ frightens people.”

“But at the same time,” he continued, “there are some great conservative leaders – Tom Coburn, senator from Oklahoma, former secretary [John] Ashcroft (a great conservative leader), Eric Cantor who’s majority leader in the Republican Congress — these three leaders, among many others, have endorsed my campaign.”

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM

When push comes to shove, you’ll always hold your nose and vote against the Democrat, no matter how annoyed at him you might be. And he knows it — and he doesn’t care. He doesn’t need his base to like him. That’s a recipe for squishiness.

What a load of crap. He never said that he did not care..what he said was in answer to a question..he is obviously saying that even if he is not the choice of some conservatives, he will be in the general election because conservatives know how important it is to get rid of Obama.

What is he supposed to say? He also said that he did well with most conservatives.

I mean come on..talk about squishy…we have so called conservatives endorsing a guy like Santorum who is soft on immigration, supports big government programs, hates libertarians, is more supportive of big labor than he is business and who likes to choose winners and losers like Obama does when it comes to business taxes. Santorum also voted for increased funding of Planned Parenthood..and yet somehow or other I am supposed to think he is the true conservative just because Michelle Malkin and Mark Levin like him..or something.

So in terms of squishy..I guess lots purists out there would rather see Barack Obama get a second term than give Mitt Romney a chance. It is just that simple.

Terrye on March 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

I was going to respond to milcus, but this says it just fine:

Yeah, like they are going to be respectfullyu pleasant to the very rich white guy who created Obamacarte for the left and fully supported things like Gay pride day, pro-choice etc.

I listened to your discourse-but to reject a candidate because the entrenched communist media won’t be fair to him is ludicrous.Frankly, I vote for the man or woman that the leftist media will attack the most.

Don L on March 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Thank you, Don. There is no reason to believe that Romney has less for the left to exploit than any of the other candidates.

Sorry to disappoint all you foaming at the mouth Mittbots, but I don’t “hate” Romney. I can not vote for Romney, as he gives me no reason to vote for him. I will still consider marking the ballot in November next to Romney, against Obama. But if I see more and more evidence that Mitt will be another squishy moderate, “reach across the aisle and get our hands bitten off” president, then I will write in Sarah Palin, and vote the rest of the ticket in hopes we can maintain control of the House, and retake the senate. Another squish in the white house will do more harm than Obama to conservatism.

JannyMae on March 15, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Terrye on March 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

You contradict yourself. You insist that Romney is as conservative as Santorum, then you call who prefer him purists.

Instead of telling us why Santorum is so horrible, maybe you should have focused on why we should give Mitt a chance? Maybe it’s because you don’t have an argument in favor of Mitt? I could understand that, because I don’t either.

JannyMae on March 15, 2012 at 7:33 PM

NOT PENN. PALS

Even if he wins his home state, Santorum could walk away without delegates

By Dan Hirschhorn Thursday, March 15, 2012

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/03/15/031512-news-web-campaign-santorum/

mountainaires on March 15, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Even if he wins his home state, Santorum could walk away without delegates

By Dan Hirschhorn Thursday, March 15, 2012

The republican party seems hell-bent on tearing itself into two pieces.

they pull a stunt like that and there will most assuredly be a REAL tea party on the ballot next election cycle.

SilverDeth on March 15, 2012 at 9:50 PM

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Ok so I should just not believe anything Santorum has said, got it.

The guy should not be running for president , he should be trying to establish his own little Christian dictatorship in the middle east somewhere, that’s how bad he is. I don’t want to choose between a Marxist and a religious statist come November.

1984 in real life on March 15, 2012 at 4:52 PM

No, you’ll just have a choice between a Marxist and the Republican politician closest to his principles and actions, who argued for a -federal- individual mandate during the Obamacare debate and then lied about it with a feeble “federalism” prevarication especially designed to insult advocates of limited government.

Way to go.

ebrown2 on March 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

While you may not like Romney, he’s the candidate who is in the best position to defeat Obama in 2012.

If you don’t like federal mandates, then you won’t like Rick Santorum’s support for federal employer mandates.

Conservative Samizdat on March 16, 2012 at 1:47 AM

While you may not like Romney, he’s the candidate who is in the best position to defeat Obama in 2012.

If you don’t like federal mandates, then you won’t like Rick Santorum’s support for federal employer mandates.

Conservative Samizdat on March 16, 2012 at 1:47 AM

What’s the point in winning when you elect a democrat like Willard fillmoure Romneycare.

Mass has still yet to recover it’s gun rights after the tornado that was Mitt Romney.

SilverDeth on March 16, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Mitt Romney is the guy who can and will defeat Obama.

GO MITT!!

bluegill on March 16, 2012 at 6:01 AM

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