Matthews: These conservative southern Christians are being forced to choose between three “cultists”

posted at 9:19 pm on March 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Greg Hengler. “Cultists” is his term for how southerners supposedly see Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich, not an expression of his own opinion, but rest assured that when the media finally starts churning on Mormonism in the general-election campaign, this sort of cheap concern-trolling is how it’ll typically be done. It’s not that they have a problem with Romney’s faith or that they want undecideds to have a problem with it, it’s that Romney’s conservative base supposedly has a problem with it — which, conveniently, is what makes it newsworthy and justifies the coverage. Consult Gallup, though, and you’ll find that it’s Democrats, not Republicans, who have the biggest objection to “cultists,” and it’s not the south but the midwest that’s least likely to vote for a “cultist” candidate. No matter. It’s your wingnuttery, not their electoral strategy, that requires that they delve into this subject. Expect them to get around to it in, say, September or October.

Watch that, then, via Mediaite, watch Glenn Beck’s extended response this morning.


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No cultism beats leftism.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Bigot.

ThePrez on March 14, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Par for the course for this troll.

Gingotts on March 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Just when you think Mathews has hit the bottom of the Sea of Stupidity, he pulls out a shovel and goes down a few more feet.

NickDeringer on March 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

As a transplanted Yankee, let me say that I have never, ever, heard a white person here in the South say something as inappropriate about President Obama as Matthews did when he gushed over Obama’s first State of the Union address by exclaiming “It was so good I forgot he was black!!!”

There are bubbas down here who drive pickup trucks with Confederate flag bumper stickers and the radio blaring Jason Aldean’s “Big Green Tractor” who know how insulting it is to tell an African-American the old “You’re such a credit to your race” line. But Matthews doesn’t have a clue; he’s one of these liberals who basically just views people of color as artifacts that he can use to get a thrill up his leg.

radjah shelduck on March 14, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Chris Matthews is getting far more attention here than he warrants.

Even within his own industry he’s regarded as a joke.

Good Lt on March 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

The cult of Obama is the greatest yet…

d1carter on March 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

The tingle down his leg may be from brain damage.

Southern Christian voters most definitely did NOT outsource to the Mormon candidate. Romney came in third place in both contests.

WhatNot on March 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I’m sure the media will give Mormonism as thorough a going-over as they did the racist Black Liberation Theology.

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM

And besides, if you want to see cultish behavior, you have to look no further than the Democrat Party’s latest hijinks.

Good Lt on March 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

The existence of organized religion in the US is the bane of the GOP. The GOP could be just as well organized and effective as the democrats if it wasn’t for conservatives splintering the right along sectarian lines. The left doesn’t have that problem. They are unified and they play for keeps. Since they don’t care about various versions of sky gods, they can concentrate on hardball politics on the national level.

So get rid of your silly religious associations, and join the fight. Or at least read an Ayn Rand book.

keep the change on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I should watch Chris Matthews show just to write a list of advertisers to boycot.

Varchild on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

hate speech…The Young Turks already had the whole “Was Jesus baptized?” aka look at this loony lady debate a week or so ago..they can’t wait to turn their knives into Mitt’s faith

TexasBrN on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I had forgotten just how vile Chrissie Tingles really is.

ElectricPhase on March 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM

What a Bigot… and a SHANK!

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on March 14, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Matthew…
That tingle thing on your leg….
Is you dripping…..

Anyway….
Hating America could be considered a cult…
*cough…cough…Obama*

Fluke You!

Electrongod on March 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Matthews is scared sh*tless of Romney being the nominee. He attacks him every day. I watch b/c I love comedy.

Basilsbest on March 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Republicans are such bigots.

Nethicus on March 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Par for the course for this troll.

Gingotts on March 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on March 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Matthew’s is the only one who admitted Breitbart was right about the Sherrod video. I give him credit for that and nothing else.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM

The guy that tongue baths Obama and gets psychosomatic responses up his lower member uses “cultists”…..?

dude.

ted c on March 14, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Or at least read an Ayn Rand book.

keep the change on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

But Rand was an atheist, after all, so nothing she has to offer in terms of intellectual and philosophical firepower has any relevance.

Except for, you know, just about everything she wrote.

Good Lt on March 14, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Tweety is a bigoted idiot. In related news, the sky is blue.

Dark Star on March 14, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I think I just got a thrill up my leg!

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I’m glad Matthews wants to talk about cults. Let’s talk about the cult of the main stream media.

My collie says:

That’s right, Chrissy. The cult of the MSM has ruined the lives of far more people than People’s Temple, Heaven’s Gate, the Branch Davidians…COMBINED.

CyberCipher on March 14, 2012 at 9:37 PM

It’s not that they have a problem with Romney’s faith or that they want undecideds to have a problem with it, it’s that Romney’s conservative base supposedly has a problem with it

Time to start reading HA threads, Allah.

The same people who’ve gone Barry apocalyptic for the past four years promise to stay home and pout like brats if it’s Mitt.

The argument about Squish only goes so far, if we’re that close to the edge. I’d say 25% are motivated by him being a Mo.

Don’t take my word for it. Newt told Baier – last night – Mitt would be a better Prez than Obama and he’d support Mitt if he was the candidate.

budfox on March 14, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Chrissy says a lot of sh!t like that when he’s drunk…and he’s drunk almost every night.

Rational Thought on March 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

OK, I get how Matthews could claim that southerns see Romney as a cultist, but how on earth can he claim that southerns see Santorum and Gringrich as cultists?

blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Matthews is probably claiming that because of Santorum’s heavy emphasis on religion, that he’s a “Christian cultist”…whatever the hell that means.

MadisonConservative on March 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Matthews is quite possibly in the early stages of dementia.

Interesting factoid: Senile means old…just old.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM

OK, I get how Matthews could claim that southerns see Romney as a cultist, but how on earth can he claim that southerns see Santorum and Gringrich as cultists?

blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Its just something to say. The teeheehee impulse of saying it, even when it doesn’t really make a lot of sense.

sharrukin on March 14, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Chris Matthews is not talking in his own mindset – he is projecting. I don’t put it against the religious types to call everybody outside of their denomination cultists at all.

The Nerve on March 14, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I’m expecting Matthews head to start spinning and spewing split-pea soup at any moment.

Knott Buyinit on March 14, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Better a cultist than a would-be Caesar

Atlas on March 14, 2012 at 9:45 PM

As a transplanted Yankee, let me say that I have never, ever, heard a white person here in the South say something as inappropriate about President Obama as Matthews

Hold on, don’t the vast majority of white southerns call Obama a ‘muslim’. Many Christains would find that description highly offensive.

“Cultists” is his term for how southerners supposedly see Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich,

OK, I get how Matthews could claim that southerns see Romney as a cultist, but how on earth can he claim that southerns see Santorum and Gringrich as cultists?

blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Matthews says that the other candidates are ‘RC’, meaning Roman Catholic (as is Matthews).

bayam on March 14, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Thrills up legs are Matthew’s thang…I hardly think we should take anything he says seriously.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:48 PM

The same people who’ve gone Barry apocalyptic for the past four years promise to stay home and pout like brats if it’s Mitt.
budfox on March 14, 2012 at 9:38 PM

It’s not a matter of pouting like a brat. It’s a matter of allowing the Democrats to own the financial disaster heading our way unless a true conservative is elected.
I don’t think I agree with the strategy for a few reasons, but you’re mischaracterizing them.
blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM

The irony being that all the candidates have already very publicly agreed any of them would be a better than Obama.

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 9:49 PM

It’s not that they have a problem with Romney’s faith or that they want undecideds to have a problem with it, it’s that Romney’s conservative base supposedly has a problem with it — which, conveniently, is what makes it newsworthy and justifies the coverage.

Projection thy name is Chris Matthews.

Bitter Clinger on March 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Can someone slap that idiot? He is not even man enough to warrant a punch.

Mr. Joe on March 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM

I don’t know who is worse: Chrissy Mathews or Maureen Dowd. Her NYT slobberfest over Hillary, combined with Chrissy Fit here, shows us who the real cultists are.

HoosierStateofMind on March 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM

OK, I get how Matthews could claim that southerns see Romney as a cultist, but how on earth can he claim that southerns see Santorum and Gringrich as cultists?

Evangelicals (and specifically Southern Baptists) have historically thought far worse about Catholics than they did about Mormons. Up until recently, Mormons have basically been an afterthought in the South. But Catholics? I actually know quite a few Pentecostals who consider the Papacy to be the “Whore of Babylon” and Catholics to be hellbound worshippers of a fake-Christian religion.

Remember JFK’s famous speech on religion? The one that supposedly made Santorum want to ‘throw up?’ There’s a reason he had to deliver it, after all: because as a Democrat he was having major problems with the Democratic Party’s historical base in Deep South, given his Catholicism and their Southern Baptism.

Esoteric on March 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM

They will be putting out articles if/when he wins the nomination wondering if America is ready to elect a Mormon with all of the non traditional beliefs highlighted. They will push Mormons are weird, but do it in a sneaky way.

Southernblogger on March 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM

What happened to the Republican War On Women?

Is it switched now to Fight The Cultists?

Meme change?

profitsbeard on March 14, 2012 at 9:52 PM

But Rand was an atheist, after all, so nothing she has to offer in terms of intellectual and philosophical firepower has any relevance.

Except for, you know, just about everything she wrote.

Good Lt on March 14, 2012 at 9:35 PM

You guys can calm down now. We’ve all read her at this point.

Nom de Boom on March 14, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Come on Liberal Media, where is the outrage that you showed Rush?

Where is the outrage Liberal Media? Where is the outrage?

sentinelrules on March 14, 2012 at 9:53 PM

The tingle down his leg may be from brain damage.

Southern Christian voters most definitely did NOT outsource to the Mormon candidate. Romney came in third place in both contests.

WhatNot on March 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM

The tingle down his leg is sciatica.

Bitter Clinger on March 14, 2012 at 9:54 PM

blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Hey, I never claimed Matthew’s perceptions were astute, just that I see what he’s intending. As for Gingrich, I’m similarly baffled.

MadisonConservative on March 14, 2012 at 9:56 PM

This story is RELEVANT here………see if you can figure out WHY:

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/14/200577.html

“Moroccan girl commits suicide after being forced to Marry her rapist”

A 16-year-old Moroccan girl has committed suicide after a judge ordered her to marry her rapist, according to Moroccan media reports.

Last year Amina’s parents filed charges against their daughter’s rapist, a man 10 years older than her but it was only recently that a judge in the northern city of Tangier decided that instead of punishing him, the two must be married.

The court’s decision to forcibly marry Amina to her rapist was supposed to “resolve” the damage of sexual violation against her, but it led to more suffering in the unwelcoming home of her rapist/husband’s family.

Traumatized by the painful experience of rape, Amina decided to end her life by consuming rat poison in the house of her husband’s family, according to the Moroccan daily al-Massae.

According to the newspaper, this type of forced marriage is rooted in local rural traditions to safeguard the honor of girls who are raped.

Moroccan penal code exempts a rapist from punishment if he agrees to marry his victim.

williamg on March 14, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Matthews: These conservative southern Christians are being forced to choose between three “cultists”.

Obamabots agree…….if they’re told to.

antipc on March 14, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Matthews once gave me a thrill up my leg

it was involuntary! freakin’ cultist raper of legs

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Wonder how late he was up thinking of that twisted logic. I live in Ga north of Atlanta my child goes to a Christian school and I havent heard one person even mention Mitts mormanism. Everyone I talk to just wants the country to turn back around and the economy to get better. They dont want govt to infringe and regulate. I also dont see the economy turning around. now Id better get back to cleaning my gun and checking my still

ldbgcoleman on March 14, 2012 at 9:58 PM

OK, I get how Matthews could claim that southerns see Romney as a cultist, but how on earth can he claim that southerns see Santorum and Gringrich as cultists?

blink on March 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Matthews is assuming that white Protestant southerners still see Roman Catholicism as a cult. Because you realize, of course, that the southern mentality hasn’t changed one lick in 200 years. For example, everyone (or so many leftists claim) knows that white southerners would no doubt re-institute slavery if they had half a chance. And since they are most certainly willing to do that, then they must also be terrified of those crazy magic-underwearing phony Moroni Mormons and those creepy Jesus-eating, Pope-worshipping Catholics, too. It’s just the usual narrative on the South that so many libs like to push.

It would actually be pretty funny if it weren’t so pathetic.

JimLennon on March 14, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Truth. Painful.

KeninCT on March 14, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Keep talking wingnuts.

Mimzey on March 14, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The existence of organized religion in the US is the bane of the GOP. The GOP could be just as well organized and effective as the democrats if it wasn’t for conservatives splintering the right along sectarian lines. The left doesn’t have that problem. They are unified and they play for keeps. Since they don’t care about various versions of sky gods, they can concentrate on hardball politics on the national level.

So get rid of your silly religious associations, and join the fight. Or at least read an Ayn Rand book.

keep the change on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

How do you square that with last night’s exit polls showing evangelicals almost evenly divided at 30/31/35 for Gingrich/Romney/Santorum? We’re not talking about a bunch of people who are inflexible in their support for one “sky god” over another. And this is in the Deep South, with 80% of primary voters claiming evangelical status.

If I were you, I’d start pointing the finger somewhere else besides religious people. The conflict in the GOP is along far different lines.

Nom de Boom on March 14, 2012 at 10:01 PM

That “overweight date” ad was a bit jarring after that fine performance by Beck.

SouthernGent on March 14, 2012 at 10:02 PM

My leg has never been the same since Matthew’s thrilled the heck out of it.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Matthews goes on a bigoted rant then accuses Republicans of “religious prejudices”.

Wigglesworth on March 14, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Truth. Painful.

KeninCT on March 14, 2012 at 10:00 PM

gosh darnit, I thought you got banned. Whatevs! Just more opportunity to mention the 8000 guys who think you’re a douche not worth a webcam stroking.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Give the anti-religion bigotry stories to Ed.

tuffy on March 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM

So get rid of your silly religious associations, and join the fight. Or at least read an Ayn Rand book.

keep the change on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

You’re missing an essential point, at least as it pertains to Christianity. Both philosophically recognize the primacy of the individual. The Christian concept of salvation is a function of one’s own choices/actions not of associations or family. The relationship between capitalism and Christianity is best stated by Hayek in The Road To Serfdom. While Rand was an atheist, neither she nor the bible recogize the collective as ultimate arbiter of individual worth.

wolfsDad on March 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Matthew’s is the only one who admitted Breitbart was right about the Sherrod video. I give him credit for that and nothing else.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM

That was a random act of journalism.

Wigglesworth on March 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Matthews + Legs = freaky weirdness

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM

That was a random act of journalism.

Wigglesworth on March 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM

that was his only act of journalism :)

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Wonder if Chris has ever considered a scholarship to Alcoholics Anonymous?

mike0993 on March 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Ya mean watching MSNBC isn’t being part of a “cult”?

GarandFan on March 14, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Hold on, don’t the vast majority of white southerns call Obama a ‘muslim’. Many Christains would find that description highly offensive.

bayam on March 14, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Want to take a crack at proving there’s any factual basis to your insipid question?

1. Define vast majority.
2. Prove that this putative vast majority call Obama a muslim
(hint; some poorly constructed poll that shows that some number of respondents in the south believe that Obama could be a muslim won’t be considered a valid proof.)

massrighty on March 14, 2012 at 10:12 PM

My leg was fine till Chris got a hold of it! Now it’s all thrilled and stuff!

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Hold on, don’t the vast majority of white southerns call Obama a ‘muslim’. Many Christains would find that description highly offensive.

bayam on March 14, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I call him a Kenyan, but that’s cause it’s true and funny

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I can see Matthew’s spittle from my house.

tom daschle concerned on March 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM

where you at Kenin! let’s spar – it won’t be fair cause you’re stupid but let’s spar! Anything you want – gay cruises, how awesome Obama is, NASCAR….whatevs.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Matthews is scared sh*tless of Romney being the nominee. He attacks him every day. I watch b/c I love comedy.

Basilsbest on March 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM

He lustily attacks Romney, to a point of defending Santorum at every turn.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Shhh, don’t anyone tell CMatty that he’s a member of the biggest cult on the planet.

stukinIL4now on March 14, 2012 at 10:25 PM

It must really suck to be a blue state Lefty these days. You look at the map of the South and realize that all that sea of red was, not that long ago, blue. But Liberalism caused a widescale abandonment of the Dems, because of people like Chris Mathhews: statists who bow to the altar of Big Government and want everyone else to bow.

Southerners have never bowed to the government, nor will they ever. That’s what the Lefties hate about the South, its independence. And so you pile insult and bigotry on all things Southern. To the Lefties, the map of the South might as well look like a profile of Sarah Palin.

Really sucks to be a Lefty, with congressional districts in blue states collapsing, while they continue to expand in red states. The economies of the South are strong, while those of blue state America are collapsing.

Come November, the blue state Lefties will be in full freakout mode.

EMD on March 14, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Matthews believes in only one god and Obama is his prophet…

William Eaton on March 14, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Shhh, don’t anyone tell CMatty that he’s a member of the biggest cult on the planet.

stukinIL4now on March 14, 2012 at 10:25 PM

The Media?

BakerAllie on March 14, 2012 at 10:27 PM

The problem with cults is that people – like Matthews – are unable to see that they are in one. Hence, they project.

EdmundBurke247 on March 14, 2012 at 10:32 PM

I never really understood how Chris Mattews got and maintains his gig. The guy is really annoying. He’s like a spitting machine when he talk, as if he’s holding water in his mouth.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 14, 2012 at 10:35 PM

This has a couple of purposes: to drive northerners and southerners apart. They want to furthermore push opposition to Obama and the general progressive agenda into being considered a radical position.

itsspideyman on March 14, 2012 at 10:37 PM

I wish Obammy thrilled my legs…that would be awesome.

DHChron on March 14, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Hey Chris,

I fart in your general direction…..you little hypocritical twit.

David in ATL on March 14, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I never really understood how Chris Mattews got and maintains his gig. The guy is really annoying. He’s like a spitting machine when he talk, as if he’s holding water in his mouth.

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 14, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Don’t some of the drugs for mental problems cause excess salivation?

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Present day liberalism is rotten to the core. Utterly rotten. They pronounce and denounce but cannot take pushback. Democracy is their ultimate enemy because, at least so far, they haven’t figured out how to bend it into complete submission. They especially hate southerners because southerners aren’t the least impressed by the Ivy League papers they wave.

Obama marks the end of the 60′s liberalism era. They all know it (their fear after that NY Times poll yesterday was palpable) and they’re not going to go quietly. They remind me of the demons who, seeing their end was near, shrieked to Jesus, “Send us into the swine!” before hurtling into the sea.

MaxMBJ on March 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I don’t know if there’s a way within this system to search my old posts for evidence, but still: what has two thumbs and totally called this line of attack?

THIS GUY!

The Schaef on March 14, 2012 at 10:53 PM

This must be that some of that civility the lefties are alway preaching about.

LilyBart on March 14, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Mormons are not Christians, I don’t see the issue here.

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 11:43 PM

What I want to know is the republicans who voted against Obama because he is not a “Christian”. Will they vote for Romney?

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Why does the conservative media keep giving this leg-humper air time?

minnesoter on March 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM

And a cult of personality is better how, Chris?

Dark Star on March 15, 2012 at 12:09 AM

The existence of organized religion in the US is the bane of the GOP. The GOP could be just as well organized and effective as the democrats if it wasn’t for conservatives splintering the right along sectarian lines. The left doesn’t have that problem. They are unified and they play for keeps. Since they don’t care about various versions of sky gods, they can concentrate on hardball politics on the national level.

I’d dispute that the left is all that unified. They practically define themselves based on their interest groups- LBGTs, blacks, hispanics, greens, women, unions, etc.. Those classifications mean far more to them than religion means to the right.

So get rid of your silly religious associations, and join the fight. Or at least read an Ayn Rand book.

keep the change on March 14, 2012 at 9:30 PM

What if I don’t care about your admonitions and want to selfishly go to church at the (supposed) expense of political unity? Why should I read a laborious novel for you?

NukeRidingCowboy on March 15, 2012 at 12:10 AM

What I want to know is the republicans who voted against Obama because he is not a “Christian”. Will they vote for Romney?

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Don’t know anyone who voted against his professed religion. Only a couple found the racist, twisted rants of his pastor the deciding factor. Almost all, myself included, found his politics loathsome, his personality deceitful and childish, and his stated goals

At this point, I’d sooner put a dog in the White House. Maybe a good, old American pit bull. At least then, we’d only be picking up his crap, instead of the pieces of our nation.

Asurea on March 15, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Listen, Mr. “Tingles down my leg,” you have no standing to call anybody else a cultist. Cults are built around charismatic individuals, like Jim Jones or David Koresh or Barak Husein Obama, to whom children were being taught to sing hymns and whose picture is being put on American flags. Progressivism is a cult of the state.

flataffect on March 15, 2012 at 12:32 AM

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