Just a reminder: Romney won the delegate haul last night

posted at 1:55 pm on March 14, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The first hint that the night might not go Mitt Romney’s way was his decision not to have a “victory” party at all, which I first heard on the Hugh Hewitt show.  As I said at the time, that’s an odd decision, considering the free media coverage one gets from the inevitable candidate speech.  Perhaps that should have tipped us off that the early exit polls had missed the mark, and that the Romney campaign knew full well they would come in third in both Mississippi and Alabama.

However, despite the disappointing results in the two southern states, Romney ended up winning the night anyway — at least in delegates.  Aaron Blake counts up the haul, including the delegate allocations from Hawaii and American Samoa:

The most recent projections from AP show Rick Santorum took 31 delegates from Alabama and Mississippi, while Newt Gingrich took 24 delegates and Romney got 23.

But this morning, Romney was projected to win all nine delegates from American Samoa’s caucuses, and he also won the Hawaii caucuses by a large margin.

AP projections show Romney beat Santorum 18 delegates to four in those jurisdictions.

So, as of this morning, Romney has won 41 delegates from Tuesday’s contests, compared to 35 for Santorum, thereby expanding Romney’s delegate lead. (Gingrich is projected to have won 24 delegates.)

According to the WaPo count after last night’s results, Romney leads in delegates over Santorum, 494-251, with Gingrich trailing badly at 131.  It doesn’t extend the delegate lead by much, but it kept either Gingrich or Santorum from catching up to Romney, too.

Rich Lowry questions the conventional wisdom from last night’s spot analysis that the night was especially bad for Romney even apart from the actual delegate haul:

There’s a lot of chatter about how the Romney campaign needs a shake up. But did anyone expect him to do any better than somewhere around 30 percent in Alabama and Mississippi? The states are chock-full of the kind of voters he just isn’t going to reach in these primaries, and the only way he was going to win was if he got lucky and the anti-Romney vote broke exactly the right way.  I’ve been underwhelmed by Romney victories and in this case, I’m underwhelmed by Romney defeats.

The chatter comes from two points.  First, polls had him doing better than he eventually did in both states, especially Mississippi, and that makes it look like Romney can’t close the deal with conservative-state voters.  Second, the expectation was that Santorum and Gingrich would have equal strength in these two states, which could have allowed Romney to take Mississippi. That didn’t happen, which means that Santorum has eclipsed Gingrich as the conservative alternative.  That’s not good news for Romney or Gingrich.

The night wasn’t all bad news for Romney, by any means, but it’s overstating the case to call last night a Romney victory.


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Maybe so but it is becoming more likely that his path to1144 is more “iffy”.

karenhasfreedom on March 14, 2012 at 1:58 PM

A republican candidate who can’t win the South.
A huge drop in turn out. He is not motivating anyone to come to the polls

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Eh, the Foxmitts were still very depressed last night. They are a good indicator.

After last night, all, incl. Obama, are desperate, except not Paul.

p.s. not a Paulite here.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM

l4l, aren’t you cheating your employer, again?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM

It’s a long time until November.

OT: a car bomb in vehicle that appears to have been intended to meet Leon Panetta’s plane in Afghanistan caught fire before it reached its destination. So reports several web sites.

But Panetta’s trip was, so they say, unannounced. How did the car bomber know when and where to arrive?

First reports usually are wrong in many respects, I suppose.

KyMouse on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

An ugly win is still a win. Romney won the night.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

it should be interesting what the state conventions actually decide who they support, where a caucus was held

cmsinaz on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

ABO. Memorize it. Repeat it. Hourly.

a capella on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

And Drudge was ‘fun’ to watch. He declared Mitt the winne, top/center, with only 1% of the results in, then he had to eat crow.

Must be tough to have one’s cojones held tight by Coultergeist, poor guy. He really doesn’t care who is president.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Neither good or bad news for Romney, as he & the other candidates did as well as expected.

22044 on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

An ugly win is still a win. Romney won the night.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Seems to be a recurring theme.

Bitter Clinger on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Ed-I don’t get your logic. This is all about getting to 1144 delegates. Romney gets more delegates on his way to 1144, and somehow this is bad for him? If Santorum can only get a few more delegates in deep south states than Romney it is Santorum who is in big trouble. Look at the upcoming primaries and which are winner-take-all and you can see that Romney has a great advantage to get to 1144. I would suggest that Alabama and MS are around the low point for Romney,i.e., 30% in the upcoming proportional states and he is likely to win the majority of the winner-take-all states.

Ta111 on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

The most recent projections from AP show Rick Santorum took 31 delegates from Alabama and Mississippi, while Newt Gingrich took 24 delegates and Romney got 23.

In other words, in primaries where people actually showed up to vote; the conservative candidates got 47 delegates; while the RINO got 24 delegates.

Less than 4,000 people voted in Hawaii caucus. Only 70(!) people voted in American Samoa. Meaningless.

Norwegian on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

A huge drop in turn out. He is not motivating anyone to come to the polls

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Then neither are Gingrich or Santorum motivating folks.

I want Mitt to win. I think he will be a great president. But I didn’t vote for him (in VA, since it was only Romney and Paul, and I was quite sure who would win). Several friends of mine said the same thing.

However, we are all going to vote in the general election. ANYBODY but obama.

DuctTapeMyBrain on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

An ugly win is still a win. Romney won the night.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

No, he didn’t.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Much like the democrats can take for granted the African-American vote so can the Romney campaign take fro granted the southern states. They are not going to vote for Obama so there is no need to really worry about losing last night by a few points to a guy whose wheel house is the type of culturally conservative voter found in the South. The exit polls show that 50% of voters think Romney has the best chance of winning in the general so their you know where they are landing on election night in November.

Time for sweater vest and moo base to call it quits so we can focus on the general.

tpw on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Eh, the Foxmitts were still very depressed last night. They are a good indicator.
Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I thought Brett Baier was going to cry when Newt kept saying he wasn’t getting out of the race.

Now where is the story about the flag, Ed?

JPeterman on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

No comments on Newt’s Captain Ahab speech?
If mitt 1/3 of the vote that kind of cancels out his “can’t win the south.” detractors, no?

-Wasteland man.

WastelandMan on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Under Rich Lowry NRO is going downhill.

celtic warrior on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Santorum scores big wins.
GOP Establishment: We declare Mitt Romney the winner!

El_Terrible on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

a capella on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Yep, anyone who’s still campaigning will be better.

22044 on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

A republican candidate who can’t win the South.
A huge drop in turn out. He is not motivating anyone to come to the polls

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Where are you looking? I checked the Alabama primary numbers 2008 vs 2012 and Romney nearly doubled his 2008 total while overall vote count was up by around 30,000.

RINO on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

despite the disappointing results in the two southern states

Huh? Santorum was expected to win bigtime, Romney was expected to be destroyed. As it was, you had three candidates dividing up things pretty evenly, with Santorum managing to eke out a skin of his teeth win.

Romney ended up winning the night anyway — at least in delegates.

Yup – the more things change….

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

An ugly win is still a win. Romney won the night.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

But why does his campaign’s “ugliness” only extend to his fellow Republicans?

RBMN on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Now where is the story about the flag, Ed?

JPeterman on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Linkey, please. Sounds like something to heavily propagate.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

If Romney had won Miss. and Ala. it would have been a miracle. I’m not too pleased with his seemingly inability to “close” the nomination. No He isn’t my first choice. I wanted Perry. In my opinion neither Santorum or Gingrich look like they can beat Obama. Just my opinion for what it’s worth.I have no delusions that a brokered Convention will bring us that knight/Maiden in shining armor. This is the hand we were dealt, and for better or worse Romney seems to have the best chance to beat Obama..

sandee on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Would somebody gets some cajones and tell EgoNewt to get the hell out ??- R Paul too ?- and have a true one on one contest ?

Santorum will come out of this looking like he needs help to get past Mittens- and not able to win on his own merits – That they may not need be the case- but we’ll never know with Mr. Moral compass mucking up the result.

FlaMurph on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

If Romney “can’t close the deal” what does that say about the candidates that are losing to him?

Romney is winning the delegate count by about 2 to 1 with Santorum and around 3 to 1 with Newt. Even Santorum’s campaign has said they’re only shot is to basically steal it in a smoke -filled room, they can’t possibly win enough delegates to capture the nomination.

The guy that comes into the Convention with the most delegates wins, unless you want to see some sort of 3rd Party write in campaign.

We’re continuing this ridiculous contest because Santorum think he MIGHT be able to get a VP slot? What a selfish basta#d.

BradTank on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

But why does his campaign’s “ugliness” only extend to his fellow Republicans?

RBMN on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Because the elitese, he being their prince, hates you. Vote and shut up, you rubes.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

He is behind the rate he would need to get a majority of delegates. This is great news! No Romney majority means we can maybe get someone else at the convention.

By now it must be obvious to everyone that Romney is a hard sell among Republicans. Any half-way decent nominee would have locked it up long ago.

After all, how are we supposed to beat Obamacare in the general if we can’t even beat Romneycare in our own primary?

Citizen-003528 on March 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Every single thread. One of the first commenters on every thread. Really, hat’s off to you. Job well done./

bluealice on March 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM

WastelandMan on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Not really. He won’t win Florida, he’ll have trouble holding VA and NC and probably GA.

Buckshot Bill on March 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM

The night wasn’t all bad news for Romney, by any means, but it’s overstating the case to call last night a Romney victory.

Just what is the threshold for calling a night a Romney victory? Every one of his wins has been discounted, if not dismissed outright…’well, he spent more money here, or there are lots of Mormons there’, etc. Super Tuesday? Nah, no winners.

changer1701 on March 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Wasn’t Drudge’s results based on a poll on his website (not the actual results)?

BTW, Hillary was in the race vs Obama until JUNE 7th last election cycle. Of course, nobody questioned whether that race was destroying anyone’s party or election chances (except the GOP).

Buck up, folks.

vinman on March 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yup – the more things change….

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

…the more they remain the same, weak frontrunner, who can’t pull the gaggle over the top, for nothin’.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

If Romney “can’t close the deal” what does that say about the candidates that are losing to him?

It says they were outspent 5-1.

But Romney can’t outspend Obama. Comprende?

Citizen-003528 on March 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

We all knew Romney’s religion would be a factor in the deep south, and last night proved it. But, despite that he lost those two states by very small margins and actually ended the night with the most delegates. I’m sure he’s not upset. I would think Gingrich and Santorum feel worse.

jan3 on March 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Anyone who thinks Obama would beat Romney in Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, or Oklahoma in November, please raise your hand.

If you want electability, look at who’s doing better in the swing states. You know, like Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire…

Red Cloud on March 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Every single thread. One of the first commenters on every thread. Really, hat’s off to you. Job well done./

bluealice on March 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I’m reporting her to her employer, whom she cheats all day long.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Must be tough to have one’s cojones held tight by Coultergeist, poor guy. He really doesn’t care who is president.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Hhahahha.

Coultergeist.

Nice. I will remember that one next time Skin’Bones goes out shilling for her Gun-grabbing democrat Willard.

:D

SilverDeth on March 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Romney did win the night – exactly where it counts. Pretty soon we are going to have two choices: Romney or Obama. Start preparing yourselves.

sherry on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

First, polls had him doing better than he eventually did in both states, especially Mississippi, and that makes it look like Romney can’t close the deal with conservative-state voters.

Um, not really. In Alabama the RCP average for Romney was 28.3, he got 29. In Miss he was only .7% off.
Also, how many conservative states are left? Or are we going to redefine “conservative state” like you redefined “the south” (as it seems Florida and Virginia have been teleported somewhere else.)?

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

If Romney “can’t close the deal” what does that say about the candidates that are losing to him?
BradTank on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Stop making sense!

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Santorum has a delegate issue in IL:

Santorum filed only 44 of the possible 54 delegates in Illinois, filing no candidates in the state’s 4th, 5th, 7th, and 13th Congressional Districts

He could win the popular vote Tuesday and once again lose the delegate race, which in the end is more important to winning the nomination.

WashJeff on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Santorum wins a caucus its a GAME CHANGER. Romney wins a caucus nobody showed up.

He can’t win.

Alright=say he gets to the convention short of 1144.

Then what. Santorum? Gingrich?. the republic is doomed.

Romney has played in every state and territory trying to amass delegates per the rules. what do you want him to do?
Go to the convention trying to make sure Santorum and Gingrich are both short of 1144-WAIT-they will be short.

gerrym51 on March 14, 2012 at 2:11 PM

but it’s overstating the case to call last night a Romney victory.

Why not be consistent? HA said there were no winners when Romney took 60% of the states on Super Tuesday. It makes sense now to call him the winner when he lost 3 out of five last night.

Alma on March 14, 2012 at 2:11 PM

An ugly win is still a win…except when it isn’t a win. Last night was not a win for Romney. He spent massive amounts of money to come in third…in the two most important races of the night.

thmsmgnm on March 14, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Start preparing yourselves.

sherry on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Ça va, but you are dreamy.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

It says they were outspent 5-1.

More whining, the ABRs are sounding more like liberals everyday.

BradTank on March 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

If you want electability, look at who’s doing better in the swing states. You know, like Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire…

Red Cloud

Oh hey, its the same guy who wins darn near everyone except “really conservative” voters. Guess that guy must be leading by like 1.1 million in the popular vote.

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Linkey, please. Sounds like something to heavily propagate.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Oh you are going to love this one.

American flag with President Obama’s image sparks outrage at Florida Democrats

JPeterman on March 14, 2012 at 2:13 PM

If Romney “can’t close the deal” what does that say about the candidates that are losing to him?
BradTank on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Stop making sense!

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Remedial Leadership 101 needed

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:13 PM

But why does his campaign’s “ugliness” only extend to his fellow Republicans?

RBMN on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

One could make this argument about the losing campaigns of Santorum and Gingrich as well.

Red Cloud on March 14, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I just think we are at the point where voters need to make a decision about whether they want a brokered convention or not. Statistically with he remaining states neither Gingrich or Santorum can reach 1144. What they can do is prevent Romney from getting 1144. Which if your anti-Romney, your probably cool with that. But I think people need to understand that that is the intent now of both Santo and Gingrich, a brokered convention where the party elites choose the nominee. Which is strange, because they are likely to choose Romney as he will be the closest in delegates. But its going to be embarrassing and alarming to independents in this Country to see the GOP scrambling come August and it helps Obama. But this is the actuality, Romney is going to win this outright by June 26th or there will be a brokered convention where he will probably be awarded a messy embarrassing win. This is just the reality at this point voters need to start facing.

nswider on March 14, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Oh hey, its the same guy who wins darn near everyone except “really conservative” voters. Guess that guy must be leading by like 1.1 million in the popular vote.

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Answer the first question. Do you think Obama will beat Romney in Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, or Oklahoma? Hmm?

Red Cloud on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

And Drudge was ‘fun’ to watch. He declared Mitt the winner, top/center, with only 1% of the results in, then he had to eat crow.

Must be tough to have one’s cojones held tight by Coultergeist, poor guy. He really doesn’t care who is president.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Wasn’t that the strangest thing. Almost a Dewey beats Truman moment but unless there are screen caps out there, it’s down the memory hole.

Fallon on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

drip, drip, drip… times a-wastin’.

rhombus on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Yup – the more things change….
whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

…the more they remain the same, weak frontrunner, who can’t pull the gaggle over the top, for nothin’.
Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM

The problem with that foot-shootin’ reasoning is the not-Mitts are faring even worse. Even their combined numbers can’t match Romney’s.

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Thanks JP…heh, where’s the hammer and sickle?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

He needs them more than they need him. Get more logic, and more coffe. There’s a reason why the perfumed prince ‘likes’ grits all of a sudden, and ‘owns’ guns.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

If you want real trouble: having a candidate selected because of superdelegates.

That is the thing the Republicans must avoid as it will leave the boat anchor of the Republican establishment tied to the ankle of the nominee.

That is the LAST thing any candidate should want by now as it is giving the establishment a final say in who is or is not selected. If the rank and file cannot choose, then the role of the superdelegates is to abide by that, not push through their own will on the rank and file. Make the primaries seem like they were for nothing and see what you get out of it.

ajacksonian on March 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

coffee…me too :)

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Maybe Mitt should form his own political party with its base in liberal northeastern states, Mormon-heavy western states, and U.S. island territories that don’t pay taxes or vote in general elections… alternatively, I hear the the Democratic nomination will be up for grabs in 2016, he would be a natural fit there, and wouldn’t have to create a national organizational apparatus from scratch.

Lawdawg86 on March 14, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Ed-I don’t get your logic. This is all about getting to 1144 delegates. Romney gets more delegates on his way to 1144, and somehow this is bad for him? If Santorum can only get a few more delegates in deep south states than Romney it is Santorum who is in big trouble. Look at the upcoming primaries and which are winner-take-all and you can see that Romney has a great advantage to get to 1144. I would suggest that Alabama and MS are around the low point for Romney,i.e., 30% in the upcoming proportional states and he is likely to win the majority of the winner-take-all states.

As i posted yesterday-in most states coming up WINNER TAKE ALL
is mostly by congressional district. the non congressional district delegates are mosly proportional. Better explained at frontloadinghq.com

gerrym51 on March 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

More whining, the ABRs are sounding more like liberals everyday.

Whining? It’s a statement of fact, and I notice you left out the rest of my comment. Romney can’t outspend Obama.

I think that leaves us with someone who can win the nomination, but not the general election. That’s not whining. That’s a cold, hard calculation.

Those who ignore history (Dole, McCain) are doomed to repeat it. Then they blame conservatives.

Citizen-003528 on March 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

If you want electability, look at who’s doing better in the swing states. You know, like Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire…

Compare the turnout to when Obama and Clinton were competing….

If Romney can’t bring out the base he will lose. Remember it was the base which won you the 2010 elections…

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

it’s down the memory hole.

Fallon on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Some of us have libraries for mind storage :)

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

So, as of this morning, Romney has won 41 delegates from Tuesday’s contests, compared to 35 for Santorum, thereby expanding Romney’s delegate lead. (Gingrich is projected to have won 24 delegates.)

So, Romney won 41 out of 100.

41%

Meaning that his overall % share of all delegates earned to date DECREASED last night.

Romney’s share of the delegates to date is now below 53%. If that continues to drop as we move foreward, and he is below 50% by the convention, I don’t think he’ll be the nominee.

And even though his current % share of the delgates is under 53%, his % of the votes cast is even lower… he’s under 40%.

ITguy on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

l4l, your boss will talk to you, soon.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Much like the democrats can take for granted the African-American vote so can the Romney campaign take fro[sic] granted the southern states.

tpw

Not so fast, my friend. We’ve been known to fight beyond the bitter end for a lost cause before, you know, even when it knowingly hurt us badly to do so. Honuh befoah vic-try, suh, honah befoah vic-try.

Knott Buyinit on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

And Rmoney came in 3rd in both Alabama and Mississippi which is an eye opener and reality check. Message trumps money.

mozalf on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Let’s say Romney makes it’s too 1,050. Do people really think he won’t get the nomination in a brokered convention?

Oil Can on March 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Santorum isn’t even eligible for 10 of the 54 delegates in the IL primary next Tuesday (15 are unpledged for the convention) – missing slates in the 4th, 5th, and 7th (all Chicago) but also the 13th downstate, which would have been fertile Santorum territory.

Another failure of this rag-tag Santorum operation, and they could have been kicked off the ballot in several more districts had the GOP chairman not given them a break.

The IL signature/delegate requirements are not significant.

matthew8787 on March 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The GOP’s best bet is to go after super majority of Senate and House, cause there will be hell to pay if the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama stumbles again because the colors on his scales didn’t change fast enough to convince the little people to vote for him.

timberline on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Just what is the threshold for calling a night a Romney victory? Every one of his wins has been discounted, if not dismissed outright…’well, he spent more money here, or there are lots of Mormons there’, etc. Super Tuesday? Nah, no winners.

changer1701

Can you just imagine the reaction in the general if Santorum is the nominee and Obama wipes the floor with him? “It doesn’t count, Obama outspent Santorum”.

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

The guy that comes into the Convention with the most delegates wins, unless you want to see some sort of 3rd Party write in campaign.

We’re continuing this ridiculous contest because Santorum think he MIGHT be able to get a VP slot? What a selfish basta#d.

BradTank on March 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Yeah, that’s why I’m not understanding all the wishing for a brokered convention among the ABR crowd. They’re not going to deny Mitt the nod if he goes in with the most delegates, which he likely will. I think they just want the internecine conflict so he’s damaged enough that he won’t win the general. It’s all about beating Mitt.

changer1701 on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Just a reminder: Romney won the delegate haul last night

Just a reminder: Romney’s % of the total delegate haul continued to shrink last night.

ITguy on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

tpw on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

So, we’ll vote for the squish because we have to? Only if he gets that far.

kingsjester on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

The GOP’s best bet is to go after super majority of Senate and House, cause there will be hell to pay if the man who lost to the man who lost to Obama stumbles again because the colors on his scales didn’t change fast enough to convince the little people to vote for him.

timberline on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

And imagine trying to drag a cold fish like Romney across the finish line in the general election. Not even Rubio could succeed with that dead weight.

mozalf on March 14, 2012 at 2:21 PM

The problem with that foot-shootin’ reasoning is the not-Mitts are faring even worse. Even their combined numbers can’t match Romney’s.
whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

He needs them more than they need him. Get more logic, and more coffe. There’s a reason why the perfumed prince ‘likes’ grits all of a sudden, and ‘owns’ guns.
Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Got coffee, thanks. And I’d say it’s pretty logical to note the NY Giants don’t have much need for the NE Pats.

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Let’s say Romney makes it’s too 1,050. Do people really think he won’t get the nomination in a brokered convention?

Most likely scenario is that Ron Paul will release his delegates to Mitt; he cannot stand Rick.

Ron Paul does NOT want to go 3rd party; he wants to turn his organization over to Senator Rand Paul. He also doesn’t want to do anything to jeopardize his son’s career by bolting from the party.

matthew8787 on March 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Those who ignore history (Dole, McCain) are doomed to repeat it. Then they blame conservatives.

Citizen-003528 on March 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

History – Last 60 years – RINO Presidents- 3, “true” conservatives – 1.

I blame conservatives for not being able to come up with viable candidates who are able to actually win against RINOs so instead they take a Newt in the punch bowl. History does repeat itself`.

rhombus on March 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Compare the turnout to when Obama and Clinton were competing….

If Romney can’t bring out the base he will lose. Remember it was the base which won you the 2010 elections…

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Listen, joker. Do you really think Romney is going to lose a single state that McCain won? If so, which ones and why?

Red Cloud on March 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Obama will be the glue that will bring ALL Republicans home in November, regardless of who the nominee is.

matthew8787 on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Those who ignore history (Dole, McCain) are doomed to repeat it. Then they blame conservatives.

Citizen-003528 on March 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

that is what is coming ……

conservative tarheel on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

No, he didn’t.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM

The problem with my party is people can’t count. They can’t get past there 10th finger.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Does anyone know offhand what Santorum’s delegate count will be if/when Gingrich pledges his delegates to him?

KickandSwimMom on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Santorum can’t win mainline conservatives or moderates.

He has tried but can’t win them over. He doesn’t connect with them. He repudiates non-evangelical women. He cannot win the Catholic vote. He can’t win with seniors which is the largest group of voters.

It may be said that Romney is “weak” but if you hold Santorum to the same standard, he fails miserably.

Midwesterner on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Plus, I haven’t heard a real good argument that Santorium has better experience than Romney to be the President.

What has Santorium run in his life?

Oil Can on March 14, 2012 at 2:24 PM

The problem with my party is people can’t count. They can’t get past there 10th finger.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Problem with you is that you’re not very discerning. Some of us rubes can count better than you do.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM

The problem with that foot-shootin’ reasoning is the not-Mitts are faring even worse. Even their combined numbers can’t match Romney’s.

whatcat on March 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Math is soooo hard, they don’t have to, they just have to pull enough between the two of them to prevent Mitt from reaching 1144, and they won’t have any difficulty doing that.

SWalker on March 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Let’s say Romney makes it’s too 1,050. Do people really think he won’t get the nomination in a brokered convention?

Oil Can on March 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Ron Paul will be king maker and Santorum, Gingrich, Palin, and Bush supporters will go absolutely nuts!

Midwesterner on March 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Let’s say Romney makes it’s too 1,050. Do people really think he won’t get the nomination in a brokered convention?

Oil Can on March 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Yes, I really think that if Romney only makes it to 1,050, then he won’t get the nomination in a brokered convention.

If Santorum and Gingrich form an alliance, they could win the nomination as a combined ticket. If they don’t, and there is bad blood between all four candidates with delegates, then they might have to get behind someone else whom a majority of delegates could get behind and support.

ITguy on March 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

So, Romney won 41 out of 100.

41%

Meaning that his overall % share of all delegates earned to date DECREASED last night.

Romney’s share of the delegates to date is now below 53%. If that continues to drop as we move foreward, and he is below 50% by the convention, I don’t think he’ll be the nominee.

And even though his current % share of the delgates is under 53%, his % of the votes cast is even lower… he’s under 40%.

ITguy

You’re clinging tightly to your blanky right now aren’t you?
Also go back to school.
Romney’s current share of the delegates is actually 53.45% which last I checked was above 53% (495 out of 926). I mean if you’re going to do the math…..
Also that would be Romney with 39% of the vote, in a 4 way race. But since you want to play that game. Santy only has 26.7% of the vote. Newt 23.3%.

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Romney has outspent everyone cause he can raise the money. The other candidates can’t…which makes them lousy candidates.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Math is soooo hard, they don’t have to, they just have to pull enough between the two of them to prevent Mitt from reaching 1144, and they won’t have any difficulty doing that.

SWalker on March 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM

And then what’s the plan?

rhombus on March 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Listen, joker. Do you really think Romney is going to lose a single state that McCain won? If so, which ones and why?

Red Cloud on March 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Only state I will give you guys in November is Nevada and probably Colorado because of the Mormons. Everywhere else he would be destroyed.

The amount of people voting in the primaries compared to 4 years ago is pathetic.

Remember he cannot outspend Obama 5 to 1. His money advantage is gone when he becomes the nominee

liberal4life on March 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Can you just imagine the reaction in the general if Santorum is the nominee and Obama wipes the floor with him? “It doesn’t count, Obama outspent Santorum”.

Zaggs on March 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Yep. But, I think they know he’d fare poorly in a general…after all, there’s a reason he was polling an asterisk just a few months ago. It’s the DE Senate race all over again. Deny the “establishment” pick the nod, worry about winning the general later (or claiming it’s a win via loss, or whatever).

changer1701 on March 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Romney has outspent everyone cause he can raise the money. The other candidates can’t…which makes them lousy candidates.

rubberneck on March 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM

You just wrote a perfect ad, for Axelrod/Obama.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Mittens (tortoise) is running the race he needs to run to win the only way he can…

Can’t fault him for that…

You want a different outcome? Convince Newt to drop out… Can’t? Then you get what you get…

Khun Joe on March 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM

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