Sandra Fluke: I will not be silenced

posted at 3:05 pm on March 13, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Sandra Fluke is clearly not concerned about the risk of overexposure — but she might not need to be. Liberal outlets continue to praise her as the mainstream voice that will end sexual shaming and usher in a new era of respect for the “reproductive rights” of women. For those of us who disagree with her, though, this debate is getting old primarily because it’s going nowhere.

Most recently, Fluke authored an op-ed for CNN to restate the case that she thinks has been so distorted by talkers and writers on the right. Here’s an excerpt:

These attempts to silence women and the men who support them have clearly failed. I know this because I have received so many messages of support from across the country — women and men speaking out because they agree that contraception needs to be treated as a basic health care service.

Who are these supporters?

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who need contraception to prevent cysts from growing on their ovaries, which if unaddressed can lead to infertility and deadly ovarian cancer. They are sexual assault victims, who need contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

They are Catholic women, who see no conflict between their social justice -based faith and family planning. They are new moms, whose doctors fear that another pregnancy too soon could jeopardize the mother’s health and the potential child’s health too. They are mothers and grandmothers who remember all too well what it was like to be called names decades ago, when they were fighting for a job, for health care benefits, for equality.

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who need access to contraception to control their reproduction, pursue their education and career goals and prevent unintended pregnancy. And they will not be silenced.

It’s a well-written op-ed, but, for those who saw her testimony or who have followed the subsequent controversy, it’s not worth reading in its entirety. Why? It says nothing new.

Fluke doesn’t seem to grasp that anyone could have heard her arguments and actually disagreed with them. Her premise is still that women have a right to insurance that covers contraception because they have a right to have sex without the fear of pregnancy.

Fluke shows very little respect for reality. The reality is that (a) the exercise of a right generally doesn’t cost somebody else something and, if it does, that might be a clue the so-called “right” is not actually a right and (b) the only completely foolproof way to prevent pregnancy is to abstain from sex. The possibility of pregnancy — even with contraception — is part of the reality of sex.

Fluke thinks objectors don’t understand that she’s not asking taxpayers to directly subsidize her birth control. She’s asking insurance companies to include contraception coverage in the plans they develop for clients (a.k.a. religious employers) that don’t want contraception coverage included in the plans. That shows little respect for the prerogative of the insurance company to include in its plans whatever it wants to assume risk for — and no more. It shows little respect for the prerogative of an employer to negotiate for a group rate for a plan that doesn’t violate his conscience. If Fluke and her Georgetown classmates want to purchase insurance that covers contraception, they are free to do so — such plans exist to meet the demand — but they are not then free to avail themselves of the group insurance rate negotiated for by an employer that opposes contraception for religious reasons. Simple enough.

Women who have sex when they’re not in a position to become pregnant are engaging in a risky behavior that triggers the need for contraception. Women like that on an insurance plan that does cover contraception are driving premiums up for everyone on that plan. As a woman who is not engaging in that risky behavior, I’d like to have the option to purchase an insurance plan that doesn’t cover contraception.

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Like Fluke, I am not alone. Who are the people who share my opinion?

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who use one of the many other forms of medication available to treat their condition. They are sexual assault victims, who, in the midst of the horror and trauma they’ve experienced, find healing in the embrace of life and the love of a child.

They are Catholic women who affirm the Church’s teaching on contraception, recognizing that openness to life in all its fullness is the fundamental posture from which to engage reality. They are new moms who use natural methods or breast feeding to space the births of their children — and exult in how “in tune” with their bodies they become as a result. They are mothers and grandmothers who remember all too well what it was like to be denigrated by their fellow women for their decision to be at-home wives and the primary caretakers of their children.

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who respect a woman’s fertility, who recognize that pregnancy is a possibility even with contraception and are ready and willing to embrace the responsibility of fatherhood and/or committed to forgoing sex if they’re not. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who choose to wait to have sex until they are prepared for whatever the consequences of the decision to have sex might be. And we will not be silenced.

***

This is not a plea for Sandra Fluke to become like me. It is a plea for her and for others like her to recognize that (a) some men and women legitimately object to contraception on religious grounds and (b) to recognize that some women — even women who don’t object to contraception in general — legitimately do not think all insurance plans should be made by the federal government to cover contraception. It is a plea for her to respect that.

Before Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a “sl-t” and a “prostitute,” I watched the video of her testimony. Based on the evidence of that testimony, I didn’t think she was either of the words Rush Limbaugh used, but I thought she was unbelievably spoiled and disdainful of the opinions of others. Nothing that I have seen or read since then has changed my opinion of her. How I’d love for something to change it now!


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I’m seeing a lot of this woman all over TV, news sites, blogs, etc. Is she still a private citizen or celebrity? Her fame HAS to be at around 14 minutes, 59 seconds, doesn’t it?

Russ in OR on March 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Only a liberal will argue that men don’t want women having a lot of sex…

No one cares if they have a lot of sex. I don’t care if she is getting gang banged! I just don’t want to have to pay for it and I don’t want a company to be forced to pay for it. This is because A) rates will rise causing me to pay for it and B) the liberals will move onto another area forcing someone else to do something they do not want to do.

Like every other issue with the liberals, it is about FREEDOM!

jeffn21 on March 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Yeah. I’m with you now. Public education. What can I say.:)

dmn1972 on March 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I know something that will silence her; it is huge, black and round and has Goodyear written on the side of it.

carbon_footprint on March 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Rosey already has along with Ellen DeGeneres.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Sandra Fluke wants what every feminazi wants – Abortion Uber Alles.
It’s just now she is the poster child for Obama’s Mandate to have religious institutions/individuals – violate their conscience (and the Constitution) and pay for it. Which in case you did not read GLS grad Cathy Ruse’s article in the WSJ – GLS already does pay for medical need bc in their insurance. This whole medical need bs is just another Fluke lie.

jackal40 on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

She will not be silenced??

Wow, the jokes on this one will write themselves…

Speaking on which….Miss Fluke, Bill Clinton for you
on Line 2….

ToddPA on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Fluke is a 31 year old slut that’s had her 15 minutes of fame………………

vietvet68 on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Next up: Sandra Fluke stars in “Women of America Demand that the Federal Government Mandate Facial Electrolysis Be Covered in All U.S. Health Insurance Plans.”

AZCoyote on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Birth control pills are used to treat hirsutism (excessive hair growth).

I don’t think this womyn needs the Pill because she’s worried about getting pregnant.

Syzygy on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

faraway on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM
————————————

A C-130 perhaps.

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

NeoKong:Bigger……a C5,haha!(sarc)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Gotta go.

Perhaps Sebelius can step in and ban Latex at public schools and institutions the way we are beginning to ban peanut butter.

No?? priorities, I guess.

WryTrvllr on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Apparently Ms. Fluke hasn’t figured out that she is the President’s latest “useful idiot.” He will drop her like a lead balloon once her usefulness has waned.

playsalieri on March 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Then, Sandra, why didn’t your boyfriends whatevers pay for your contraception?

There, problem solved.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Why is tina using a picture of Ashton Kutcher?

Tim_CA on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Because Ashton isn’t as scary looking as Sandra Fluke???

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM

If she doesn’t quiet down, I’m sure the President will send her on a Caribbean vacation with Vera Baker.

RickB on March 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM

how long until she has a Health & Human Services Position in the Obummer Administration making $240k a year laughing at all of us…..

SDarchitect on March 13, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Then, Sandra, why didn’t your boyfriends whatevers pay for your contraception?

There, problem solved.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Maybe because getting pregnant by her “Whatever” isn’t an actual physical possibility?

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Ms Fluke is a liberal operative, she’s been un-silenced on multiple campuses, playing the victim is what she does, its her shtick, this is her fifteen minutes of performance fame, she’s going to give it her liberal law school, operator best shot.

Before graduating Georgetown and going on to liberal lawyer 1%er fame.

Speakup on March 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I agree. We need to keep saying “Obama’s Gas prices” “Obama’s Depression” over and over again.

Speaking of that, I sent in a candidate for chart of the day to the tip mailbox, that shows our economy is actually worse now than the Depression.

Its from American Thinker.

dogsoldier on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Yep. If this is what an Obama recovery looks like, no thanks.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

…if you had even 2 brain cells attached to each other banging around in-between your ears…you would still be lost from any kind of reality.

KOOLAID2 on March 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

And who is going to bother listening to you? Talk is cheap, especially from you. Go crawl back under your rock or wherever you came from.

stormridercx4 on March 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who need access to contraception to control their reproduction, pursue their education and career goals and prevent unintended pregnancy. And they will not be silenced.

…and most of all they are straw men, who perform the hardest work of all: creating the impression that contraceptive moocher movement isn’t just a small minority of parasites intentionally conflating the public’s unwillingness to subsidize their theft with a non-existent movement to deny them “access” to “necessary health care”, but a till-now-silent-majority fighting the good fight in the “War on Women”. These, my friends, are the true unsung heroes.

fitzfong on March 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM

s there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I think I found one here…

OkieDoc on March 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

We know you won’t shut your yap dear 31 year old college student lying political hack, but we don’t have to listen to you either.

Expect your lies to be met with derision, ridicule, and laughter before being dismissed as pure BS.

Robert Jensen on March 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

“For just $5 a day…the price of a double mocha latte non fat, you can bring the miracle of contraception to those less fortunate.
Hurry.
They cannot wait.”

#Sandrascondoms

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Sandra, why didn’t your boyfriends pay for your contraception?

Shoot, I’d pony up $9 a month to hit that.

Dexter_Alarius on March 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

The Democratic PR firm that is running Ms. Fluke might want soften her appearance a bit. Handle bar mustaches on women are not particularly photogenic.

Mike Honcho on March 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

What these “empowered” women don’t get; is that contraception and “free love’ didn’t empower women- it empowered men. For the first time, men were able to have guilt free/responsibility free sex. Women who didn’t want to be “objects” have effectively been relegated to sex objects. Well done, Well done!

I am not old by any measure, but I want to know when it became okay not to be discreet anymore. My parents would be appalled if I testified in front of congress about how much birth control I needed. No wonder men aren’t men anymore.. Women aren’t ladies..

melle1228 on March 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Sandy is looking for her 15 minutes after taking some civil liberties course. It is the only chance she has to make a mark on society other then, to quote that infamous liberal talker, Mike Malloy, at least “a little grease spot”. Something tells me there a “fluke ammendment” in three…two…

PatriotPete on March 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

In this case, it is not contraception. It is now a preventative for polycystic ovarian syndrome. This may not be the use it was originally designed for, but it is the use it is prescribed for

And… with a letter from the doctor to the insurance company explaining that it’s a true health need, the insurance company will pay for it.

crazy_legs on March 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

She’s eating into Anita Dunn’s fifteen minutes now…

d1carter on March 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Is there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Yes

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who need access to contraception to control their reproduction, pursue their education and career goals and prevent unintended pregnancy. And they will not be silenced.

My Lord. There is just so much to stab away at in this quote.

Ms. Fluke: When you talk about “without access to contraception”, who is that exactly? Poor women? Students? They can “access” contraception through Title X. The access problem for that group was solved DECADES ago. Look it up. Why even you, a Georgetown Law Student whose coverage at the University doesn’t cover such services can apply for Title X services off campus at a clinic.

“Women of all income levels” What? Is that a joke? Rich women do not have “access to contraception”? Really? They have access to BMW 7 series and a gold card at Nordstrom’s but “do not have access to contraception”?

Face it: Title X slayed the whole “access to free or low cost contraception” during the Nixon years. That’s right. A Republican passed that bill.

Access is no longer a problem Ms. Fluke and you know it. Your bit#@ing is all about the Jesuit University you specifically attended because you knew their religious tenets forbid them to provide contraception as part of the university’s health care plan and you want them to abandon their beliefs and faith and bend to your will so you have unlimited sex before marriage and have them PAY for your contraception.

You are worse than a fraud. You are the epitome of a weak, sad faux-victim, not a strong independent woman.

YOU won’t be silenced?

Either will we.

Opposite Day on March 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life.

But not so much that they would actually pay for it.

Fluke and her fellow harpies are shrieking that their husbands, partners, boyfriends, and male friends who are having sex with them at the drop of a hat won’t drop a single dime for contraceptives.

She thus puts the lie to the idea that this has anything to do with personal responsibility and makes it clear that this is an attempt by Obama and his fellow leftwing idiots to push their abortion bills onto those of us who actually pay.

northdallasthirty on March 13, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Seems to be Sleeper-Trolls out to ruin this blog,mas
quarding as Rightys no doubt!!

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Yeah, one of them was for sure. Now there’s another.

dogsoldier on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.
 
liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Hypocrisy it’s what’s for breakfast. You really should clean your own house before you lecture others on theirs. You people might almost be funny if you weren’t so pathetic.

And really Tina hasn’t this Fluck clown gotten enough coverage for this waste of time topic? All you are doing is providing the clownish leftardian trolls catnip to spew their pathetic hypocrisy, why? There are not enough real world topics out there for you to keep dredging this up from the land of liberal make believe?

bbinfl on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

So Obama forces the church to provide items that are against their religion, and the left cries out about the loss of liberty- the “sexual liberty” of women denied to them by right-wingers.

Then they try to shut donw and imprison Rush for his speech, and the left cries out about the loss of free speech- Sandra’s speech, under assault from right-wingers.

Seriously, why do we even engage these people? We’re not talking politics, this is just a game. Attack your perceived enemy, then cry about it before they can so it rings hollow to the apathetic masses.

bernverdnardo1 on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Funny how getting someone else to pay for their birth control has become “you can’t limit my access to birth control”. Every 7-11, Walgreens, Walmart, and grocery store I’ve been in lately has an entire aisle of nothing but birth control. Every gas station / truck stop across the country I’ve been in has a condom dispenser in the restroom. When has access ever been limited?

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Bill Clinton reprising the role of
Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School:

“Miss Fluke check out my LongFellow”

ToddPA on March 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who respect a woman’s fertility, who recognize that pregnancy is a possibility even with contraception and are ready and willing to embrace the responsibility of fatherhood and/or committed to forgoing sex if they’re not. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who choose to wait to have sex until they are prepared for whatever the consequences of the decision to have sex might be. And we will not be silenced.

this fatalist attitude about sex is mindboggling.
1) no one cares if you take this decision and no one forbids you from taking it.
2) waiting for “the right time” for sex is ok, but, “the right time” is very subjective and personal, and if someone feels the time is a new partner every night, so be it. I knew girls like this that now are married and with childreen and devoted to family.
3) obamacare is the problem and should be repealed.however, its mandated contraception coverage is fully justified as being a common health care expense.

nathor on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Then, Sandra, why didn’t your boyfriends whatevers pay for your contraception?

There, problem solved.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Funny how getting someone else to pay for their birth control has become “you can’t limit my access to birth control”. Every 7-11, Walgreens, Walmart, and grocery store I’ve been in lately has an entire aisle of nothing but birth control. Every gas station / truck stop across the country I’ve been in has a condom dispenser in the restroom. When has access ever been limited?

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

I certainly can buy birth control easier than I can get my sinus medication!

melle1228 on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I can see how this is a winning issue for the Dems come November, though. Because if there’s one issue that is of paramount concern to the average voter these days it’s making sure middle-aged grad students have access to free birth control.

WarEagle01 on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

The way to keep this harpy out of the media is clear: repeat at every opportunity that what Sandra Fluke wants is for churches to be forced to pay for her abortions.

Abortion, abortion, abortion. That is all this is about: Fluke and her fellow left-wing bigots wanting to force churches to pay for abortions or be punished.

Again, make it clear: anyone who supports Fluke wants the church to be forced to pay for abortions. Make the whole Georgetown administration state that they support forcing churches to pay for abortions.

If you support Sandra Fluke, you support churches being forced to pay for abortion. That’s all there is to it.

northdallasthirty on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Fluke may not ‘be silenced’ but she’s definitely ‘preaching to the choir’. ONLY militant Feminists and progressives are listening to her and notably, the people who put out ‘Game Change’ are the one’s backing her… along with Anita “Mao is my favorite philosopher’ Dunne and Gloria ‘ I never met a man I didn’t want to SUE’ Allred.

The rest of the nation isn’t completely blinded by a cult-like adherence to a toxic ideology and are, therefore, capable of REASON. So the majority of the nation doesn’t care how much Ms. Fluke expounds on the Progressive/Feminist Ideal, nor are they interested in how vigorously Ms. Fluke pursues climbing that Progressive career ladder.Much as none of us are interested in Ms. Fluke’s sex life or lack thereof, and its worth noting here that, like most Progressives, she insisted on trying to make it our business even though NO ONE ASKED HER. The only difference is that she also insists that WE should all pay for her sexual indulgences… should she ever be availed of the opportunity to explore them.

thatsafactjack on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Ah, the phony “I will not be silenced” routine. Usually people who say this are always showing up on the MSM so they have nothing to worry about.

ThePrez on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

“When has access ever been limited?”

Well, are those Catholic condoms? No? Not good enough.

bernverdnardo1 on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Shoot, I’d pony up $9 a month to hit that.

Dexter_Alarius on March 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

After a 6-pack worth of beer goggles – sure – IF I wasn’t married to a possessive, jealous redhead who would kill me for doing so (and who takes care of things well enough at home that I wouldn’t need to).

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

A C-130 perhaps.

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

NeoKong:Bigger……a C5,haha!(sarc)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Am I the only one who read the original comment as

AC-130 perhaps.

and laughed?

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Maybe you should go back and read insurance policies. EVERY insurance policy(even ones that don’t cover contraception) will cover birth control pills for MEDICAL NECESSARY conditions.

melle1228 on March 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Anybody hear that the Femi Libs want to do a shut sex down for your male partner from April 28th to May 5th. In response a bunch of conservative guys are going to be walking or hobbling around with a big smile on their faces that week. They’re Going to look like Bob on the male enhancement commercial.

stormridercx4 on March 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Because you have no problem with that when they are Obama Party-approved or when they donate sufficient dollars to the Obama Party.

Furthermore, what you are stating is that churches should be forced to pay for abortions. That’s all there is to it. You want churches to be forced to pay for abortions.

Finally, Fluke is not paying the bill for her insurance. Georgetown and/or her employer are. If she doesn’t like the coverage, she is free to go elsewhere or purchase her own that does cover it. But she’s too lazy and stupid to do so.

northdallasthirty on March 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life.

Ana Marie Cox overcame those obstacles without resorting to oral contraceptives.

meci on March 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

Who’s telling the isurance company what they must cover?

bernverdnardo1 on March 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Sandra Fluke, the great unwashed and unshaved irony of our time. I was one of those women who had to be twice as smart and work three times as hard to get to the same place men got. Our generation just said “give us a chance, and we can do it”. Now? We’ve got a pitiful little woman who is the classic June Clever, “I can’t do it by myself. I need to be supported.”

What an insult to real women. Strong women. Like my grandmother, my mother, me.

Portia46 on March 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I certainly can buy birth control easier than I can get my sinus medication!

melle1228 on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Ya – my wife has had a chronic cough for 13 years (total non-smoker) that the doctors can’t solve, but they’re scared to death of prescribing too much of the codeine based cough medicine that actually works.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

What’s your point?

For sure we don’t want dumb-zeolots like Sebelius and Obama dictating what’s in a one-size-fits-all policy.

Why don’t we everyone by their own insurance and let their be joice in coverage rather than govt. dictates!

Is that what you are advocating?

Deafdog on March 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Because those “zealots” have to pay higher premiums on their own insurance plans to subsidize something they don’t need, don’t want and don’t use because these “non-zealots” are too cheap to pay the $9 themselves and too arrogant to realize that just because they want something, doesn’t make it everyone else’s obligation to provide it for them.

fitzfong on March 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

The more she talks the better. She is a major turn off to women who don’t want their gender portrayed as helpless, irresponsible, and dependent. I bet the Dem leadership realizes this, especially in light of recent polls. The “war on women” meme only plays with a certain segment, most of whom were already guaranteed Obama voters.

jrnlz on March 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Am I the only one who read the original comment as

AC-130 perhaps.
and laughed?

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM`

Washington Nearsider:Oh crap,thats a Spectre Gunship…
my bad!!

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

From the Georgetown University Website – 2011 – 2012 Tuition and Fees:

Law Center
Full-time per year 46,865.00

Female students can pay this per year for three years = $140,595 but can’t pay for their own pills at Target?

You can pass the LSAT, gain admission to Georgetown Law, and cough up this kind of $$ for 3 years of Law School, but you can’t figure out how to get yourself to Target for your pills?

Gimme a break!

Southgirl on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I read that the PR firm used by Fluke has ties back to Obama. Shocker!!! /

karenhasfreedom on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Ah, the phony “I will not be silenced” routine. Usually people who say this are always showing up on the MSM so they have nothing to worry about.
ThePrez on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Wasn’t there a song from I believe Helen Reddy from the 70s called “I am Woman” that she should also have been playing in the background to get the full victim effect?

Can someone please tell me how this is going to reduce the cost of my gas and groceries? Or how this is going to help people find jobs?

bbinfl on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

And you, as with Miss Fluke, seem to miss the point entirely that if it’s needed for real medical purposes it IS covered. Despite what Fluke “testified” even the Georgetown policies cover contraceptives if they are prescribed for true medical needs.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

0bamaderangementsyndrom is some kind of operative. Nobody is this stupid.

The government is mandating what insurance companies must cover.

0bamaderangementsyndrom twists the story to imply that “dumb-zealots” (I guess he means Catholics) are forcing their hand.

Again, they attack, and play victim before anyone noticed what happened.

Nice try Axelrod puke.

bernverdnardo1 on March 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Oh crap,thats a Spectre Gunship…
my bad!!

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Like I said, I laughed.

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

The state of Virginia endorses state sanctioned rape. Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Um, did you know that abortionists routinely do transvag!nal ultrasounds??????

At Slate via pro-life advocate Jill Stanek (the woman who went toe to toe against Obama when he was in the IL legislature and working to defeat the IL Infant Born Alive law).

I’ve been waiting to use this (my emphasis):

Crying Rape
Pro-choice advocates should quit calling ultrasounds rape.

“Are we now going to have to convince our patients we are not raping them?” A longtime abortion provider posed that question to colleagues on a listserv this week, and it demonstrates what is wrongheaded about the rhetoric that abortion rights supporters have been using to oppose ultrasound laws. In the short run, the labeling has sent pro-life legislators running. But in the long run, it risks turning a benign and routine part of the abortion procedure into cause for alarm….

…The reality is that most abortion patients do receive an ultrasound to date their pregnancies. Since most abortions take place in the first trimester of pregnancy, many of these ultrasounds are performed with a transvag!nal probe, the most effective method for viewing early-stage pregnancies. In the end, whether an ultrasound is performed, and which method is used, reflects either the practice of the abortion provider, the patient’s medical history, or—for a relatively small number of women—an aversion to the transvag!nal method. Most of the time, however, the transvag!nal ultrasound is a useful and common tool that helps providers perform abortions safely and well….

Here’s the kicker for people like you:

But now that women have heard abortion supporters describe this form of ultrasound as “rape,” will more of them be terrified when they arrive at a clinic and are informed they will have such a procedure?

INC on March 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

If you support Sandra Fluke, you support churches being forced to pay for abortion. That’s all there is to it. northdallasthirty on March 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Yup.

Obama Admin Finalizes Rules: $1 Abortions in ObamaCare

“No one should be forced to violate their conscience by paying for abortions, but that’s precisely what ObamaCare does,” he explained. “ObamaCare requires that employees enrolled in certain health plans pay a separate insurance premium specifically to pay for other people’s elective abortions and offers no opt-out for religious or moral reasons. Such a mandate cannot survive constitutional scrutiny.”

This seems more newsworthy than Slutgate. Churches are supposed to pay for birth control pills and abortions. No opting out.

All this means is that church ministries who can’t abide paying for whores’ prophylactics and fetucide must drop their health insurance plans unless they want to violate their own consciences.

Of course, OboobaCare and the state “exchanges” etc will provide for abortions and contraceptives as well, so, lose/lose.

Akzed on March 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Sandra Fluke, the great unwashed and unshaved irony of our time. I was one of those women who had to be twice as smart and work three times as hard to get to the same place men got. Our generation just said “give us a chance, and we can do it”. Now? We’ve got a pitiful little woman who is the classic June Clever, “I can’t do it by myself. I need to be supported.”

What an insult to real women. Strong women. Like my grandmother, my mother, me.

Portia46 on March 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Exactly.

jrnlz on March 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The state of Virginia endorses state sanctioned rape. Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Um, did you know that abortionists routinely do transvag!nal ultrasounds??????

At Slate via pro-life advocate Jill Stanek (the woman who went toe to toe against Obama when he was in the IL legislature and working to defeat the IL Infant Born Alive law).

I’ve been waiting to use this (my emphasis):

Crying Rape
Pro-choice advocates should quit calling ultrasounds rape.

“Are we now going to have to convince our patients we are not raping them?” A longtime abortion provider posed that question to colleagues on a listserv this week, and it demonstrates what is wrongheaded about the rhetoric that abortion rights supporters have been using to oppose ultrasound laws. In the short run, the labeling has sent pro-life legislators running. But in the long run, it risks turning a benign and routine part of the abortion procedure into cause for alarm….

…The reality is that most abortion patients do receive an ultrasound to date their pregnancies. Since most abortions take place in the first trimester of pregnancy, many of these ultrasounds are performed with a transvag!nal probe, the most effective method for viewing early-stage pregnancies. In the end, whether an ultrasound is performed, and which method is used, reflects either the practice of the abortion provider, the patient’s medical history, or—for a relatively small number of women—an aversion to the transvag!nal method. Most of the time, however, the transvag!nal ultrasound is a useful and common tool that helps providers perform abortions safely and well….

Here’s the kicker for people like you:

But now that women have heard abortion supporters describe this form of ultrasound as “rape,” will more of them be terrified when they arrive at a clinic and are informed they will have such a procedure?

INC on March 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Liberal outlets continue to praise her as the mainstream voice that will end sexual shaming and usher in a new era of respect for the “reproductive rights” of women.

Let’s make one thing clear, feminists want to end slut shaming but they definitely don’t care about shaming men. Unfortunately, so do conservatives.

Bill C on March 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Funny how getting someone else to pay for their birth control has become “you can’t limit my access to birth control”. Every 7-11, Walgreens, Walmart, and grocery store I’ve been in lately has an entire aisle of nothing but birth control. Every gas station / truck stop across the country I’ve been in has a condom dispenser in the restroom. When has access ever been limited?

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM

and this

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

A woman should spend more time cooking, knitting sweaters, and making her man feel treasured

apocalypse on March 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

The more she talks the better. She is a major turn off to women who don’t want their gender portrayed as helpless, irresponsible, and dependent. I bet the Dem leadership realizes this, especially in light of recent polls. The “war on women” meme only plays with a certain segment, most of whom were already guaranteed Obama voters.

jrnlz on March 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

That’s what makes her whole “I will not be silenced” blather hilarious. She will shut up, sit, stay, lay down, and eat her biscuit like a good dog when Baraka orders her to, and we all know it.

Fluke is a prime example of liberal women, and the underlying reason why Obama makes the decisions he does. He is surrounded with women like her who are insanely devoted to him, been taught to do as he says in exchange for sex, and whose only concern in life is being given money for abortions.

northdallasthirty on March 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

some dumb-zealot

I agree Obama should mind his own business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Rosey already has along with Ellen DeGeneres.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Misogyny from the Right??? Examples, please, with links for proof.

chai on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Her hole will NOT be shut up.

wildcat72 on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Her hole will NOT be shut up.

wildcat72 on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Aw hell, the jokes write themselves here…

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Let’s make one thing clear, feminists want to end slut shaming but they definitely don’t care about shaming men. Unfortunately, so do conservatives.

Bill C on March 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

They are the biggest hypocrites in the world. This is an old Green Room post from 2010 by Lori Ziganto:

Leftist Feminists Proudly Embrace Sluthood, Objectification and Subjugation of Women

She quotes a feminist who says this:

Sluthood isn’t just a choice we should let women make because women should be free to make even “bad” choices. It’s a choice we should all have access to because it has the potential to be liberating. Healing. Soul-fulfilling.

This is all about politics. They have no shame.

INC on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

A woman should spend more time cooking, knitting sweaters, and making her man feel treasured apocalypse on March 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Fixing the spelling of your handle doesn’t make you look any smarter.

Akzed on March 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Um, spelling challenged Obama voter, isn’t that what Fluke is doing? Isn’t that what you are doing in this thread, as you’re obviously too stupid too go out there and get the insurance that best matches your needs.

You Democrat women sure have come a long way, baby.

MNHawk on March 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Is there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Not as yet. Evidently, someone has been silenced by this ridiculous saga.

Christien on March 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I’ll leave the morality of this between Fluke, her conscience and God. The bottom line to me is this: will this mandate mean I’ll pay more in taxes and/or insurance premiums? I believe the answer is “yes” on both counts, hence why I adamantly oppose it. Fluke is welcome to have all the sex she wants – on her own dime. She can take her happy buttocks down to the local gas station, drug store, or a heckuva lot of other places and buy a pack of condoms for hours of fun if she wants to. In the days of trillion dollar deficits, $4.00+ per gallon gas, “jobless recovery”, impending bankruptcy of social programs like Medicaid, I will not support any unnecessary additions to my expenses. I don’t care if it’s “fair” or not. I could care less about whether it’s “for the children”. I’ve been lied to my whole life by politicians of both parties who swear up and down that their latest program or mandate won’t cost me anything but it always, ALWAYS does. They can take their new programs and mandates and shove ‘em. I’m done.

JohnAGJ on March 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Meme (NSFW)

Bill C on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Misogyny from the Right??? Examples, please, with links for proof.

chai on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Learn to read to the end, Chaz, the original post also said

About time someone spoke up.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Exactly! Why should Fluke or Sebelius be able to tell insurance companies what should be covered!!!

Axeman on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Meme (NSFW)

Bill C on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Dayuuum.

HEHE

tom daschle concerned on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

JohnAGJ on March 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Well, that pretty much sums it up.

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Like I said, I laughed.

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Washington Nearsider:Hehe,I don’t blame ya,there is a difference,
————————:)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Fluke=Julia from 1984??

tom daschle concerned on March 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Once again her narrative is not correct. I know of no one that has been silenced, only rebuked and told that there is no constitutional RIGHT to make a religious organization pay for birth control pills, and abortions under a federal mandate (Obamacare).

Ms. Fluke may speak for some woman that speak through their wombs and live their lives acting as though they are living in the 1800′s, but woman are more free in America than any where in the world. This is and always has been about Ms. Fluke and her Womb-bats wild quest to compromise and silence those opposed to be made to accept the unacceptable. There is accessible agencies and clinics and mfg’s themselves that will gladly provide pills to the pill-less.

I too won’t be silenced I want Ms. Fluke and her woman’s reproductive rights organization prove in a court of law why they have a right to steal my right to oppose them.

ActinUpinTexas on March 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

And they will not be silenced.

…we arent trying to do anything of the sort. The more you flap your yap’s, the more ridiculous you people look, and the easier it will be to win this argument.

PAY FOR YOUR OWN SEX LIFE.

TX-96 on March 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

So if a man “gets a woman pregnant”, it’s his responsibility to pony up the cash for child support because it takes two to tango, but to prevent that pregnancy, they are both absolved of any responsibility and it falls squarely on the shoulder of the insurance company.

Makes sense.

John Deaux on March 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Tell me. How many women do you know who are taking the pill for the reasons listed (PMS???). I’ve known maybe one in 40 plus years. So ask me how many women I know who put themselves into a high risk group for breast and ovarian cancer and at pretty high risk for heart disease and blood clots. Add the pill to a couple of other risk factors and there you go. Breast cancer.

Portia46 on March 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Her cornell degree description has been removed from her wiki page. Likely since it infers she really doesn’t need birth control.

aniptofar on March 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT!

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Disgusting, filthy troll

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

i’m soooo sorry.

Rick Santorum says rape victims should ‘make the best of a bad situation’ if they get pregnant and give birth to the ‘gift from God’

filthy, disgusting?

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Contraception is not only used for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Ovarian cyst
2. Heavy periods
3. PMS

etc….
If you ARE PAYING FOR INSURANCE, why should some dumb-zealot tell the insurance company what should be covered?

0bamaderangementsyndrom on March 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Tell me. How many women do you know who are taking the pill for the reasons listed (PMS???). I’ve known maybe one in 40 plus years. So ask me how many women I know who put themselves into a high risk group for breast and ovarian cancer and at pretty high risk for heart disease and blood clots. Add the pill to a couple of other risk factors and there you go. Breast cancer.

I have actually known several but the pill is then paid for by ins. as a medical condition.

aniptofar on March 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Her hole will NOT be shut up.

wildcat72 on March 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I’ll bet Bill Clinton knows how to keep her quiet…..

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Meme (NSFW)

Bill C on March 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Dude!

I’ll burn for laughing at that.

Socialist Lecturing Us Taxpayers was much safer.

MNHawk on March 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM

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