Sandra Fluke: I will not be silenced

posted at 3:05 pm on March 13, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Sandra Fluke is clearly not concerned about the risk of overexposure — but she might not need to be. Liberal outlets continue to praise her as the mainstream voice that will end sexual shaming and usher in a new era of respect for the “reproductive rights” of women. For those of us who disagree with her, though, this debate is getting old primarily because it’s going nowhere.

Most recently, Fluke authored an op-ed for CNN to restate the case that she thinks has been so distorted by talkers and writers on the right. Here’s an excerpt:

These attempts to silence women and the men who support them have clearly failed. I know this because I have received so many messages of support from across the country — women and men speaking out because they agree that contraception needs to be treated as a basic health care service.

Who are these supporters?

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who need contraception to prevent cysts from growing on their ovaries, which if unaddressed can lead to infertility and deadly ovarian cancer. They are sexual assault victims, who need contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

They are Catholic women, who see no conflict between their social justice -based faith and family planning. They are new moms, whose doctors fear that another pregnancy too soon could jeopardize the mother’s health and the potential child’s health too. They are mothers and grandmothers who remember all too well what it was like to be called names decades ago, when they were fighting for a job, for health care benefits, for equality.

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who need access to contraception to control their reproduction, pursue their education and career goals and prevent unintended pregnancy. And they will not be silenced.

It’s a well-written op-ed, but, for those who saw her testimony or who have followed the subsequent controversy, it’s not worth reading in its entirety. Why? It says nothing new.

Fluke doesn’t seem to grasp that anyone could have heard her arguments and actually disagreed with them. Her premise is still that women have a right to insurance that covers contraception because they have a right to have sex without the fear of pregnancy.

Fluke shows very little respect for reality. The reality is that (a) the exercise of a right generally doesn’t cost somebody else something and, if it does, that might be a clue the so-called “right” is not actually a right and (b) the only completely foolproof way to prevent pregnancy is to abstain from sex. The possibility of pregnancy — even with contraception — is part of the reality of sex.

Fluke thinks objectors don’t understand that she’s not asking taxpayers to directly subsidize her birth control. She’s asking insurance companies to include contraception coverage in the plans they develop for clients (a.k.a. religious employers) that don’t want contraception coverage included in the plans. That shows little respect for the prerogative of the insurance company to include in its plans whatever it wants to assume risk for — and no more. It shows little respect for the prerogative of an employer to negotiate for a group rate for a plan that doesn’t violate his conscience. If Fluke and her Georgetown classmates want to purchase insurance that covers contraception, they are free to do so — such plans exist to meet the demand — but they are not then free to avail themselves of the group insurance rate negotiated for by an employer that opposes contraception for religious reasons. Simple enough.

Women who have sex when they’re not in a position to become pregnant are engaging in a risky behavior that triggers the need for contraception. Women like that on an insurance plan that does cover contraception are driving premiums up for everyone on that plan. As a woman who is not engaging in that risky behavior, I’d like to have the option to purchase an insurance plan that doesn’t cover contraception.

***

Like Fluke, I am not alone. Who are the people who share my opinion?

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who use one of the many other forms of medication available to treat their condition. They are sexual assault victims, who, in the midst of the horror and trauma they’ve experienced, find healing in the embrace of life and the love of a child.

They are Catholic women who affirm the Church’s teaching on contraception, recognizing that openness to life in all its fullness is the fundamental posture from which to engage reality. They are new moms who use natural methods or breast feeding to space the births of their children — and exult in how “in tune” with their bodies they become as a result. They are mothers and grandmothers who remember all too well what it was like to be denigrated by their fellow women for their decision to be at-home wives and the primary caretakers of their children.

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who respect a woman’s fertility, who recognize that pregnancy is a possibility even with contraception and are ready and willing to embrace the responsibility of fatherhood and/or committed to forgoing sex if they’re not. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who choose to wait to have sex until they are prepared for whatever the consequences of the decision to have sex might be. And we will not be silenced.

***

This is not a plea for Sandra Fluke to become like me. It is a plea for her and for others like her to recognize that (a) some men and women legitimately object to contraception on religious grounds and (b) to recognize that some women — even women who don’t object to contraception in general — legitimately do not think all insurance plans should be made by the federal government to cover contraception. It is a plea for her to respect that.

Before Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a “sl-t” and a “prostitute,” I watched the video of her testimony. Based on the evidence of that testimony, I didn’t think she was either of the words Rush Limbaugh used, but I thought she was unbelievably spoiled and disdainful of the opinions of others. Nothing that I have seen or read since then has changed my opinion of her. How I’d love for something to change it now!


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Double digit unemployment, $5 gallon gasoline, record federal debt. Dear Liar has a failed presidency, he cannot run on his record so he and his handlers have to create a fake controversy.

rbj on March 13, 2012 at 3:16 PM

After all the jokes, at the end of the day, everyone please remember to stay on target. And by target I don’t mean any inciting of violence but to stay on the goal. /

redeye on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

When are her 15 minutes going to be up?

AZCoyote on March 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Pretty darn quick if Obama’s female polling keeps going in the wrong direction.

forest on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Looks like somebody wants a job at CNN or MSNBC.

Kingfisher on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Fluke not very tolerant of the right

cmsinaz on March 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

cmsinaz:Lol,oh gawd…so true!:)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.
 
liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

 
The sad part is that, at the exact moment you read this, a little girl in a Muslim country is having her clitoris cut out.
 
But you’ve sold yourself out for a reelection effort, and now you equate not-free-condoms with true atrocities.
 
Sluts? Maybe, maybe not. Whores? Definitely.

rogerb on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

If only we could just put her on Air America, that’d let her talk all she wants and silence her for the rest of us.

Ukiah on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who need contraception to prevent cysts from growing on their ovaries, which if unaddressed can lead to infertility and deadly ovarian cancer

In this case, it is not contraception. It is now a preventative for polycystic ovarian syndrome. This may not be the use it was originally designed for, but it is the use it is prescribed for.

DAT60A3 on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who need access to contraception to control their reproduction, pursue their education and career goals and prevent unintended pregnancy. And they will not be silenced.

Nobody lacks access to contraceptives in America.

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Sandra Slut: No I’m not going away! I want RUBBERS! LOTS OF RUBBERS! FOR FREE!!! CATHOLIC RUBBERS! NOW!!!

So brave, so noble.

bernverdnardo1 on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Sluts never know when to stop.

faraway on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

“… this debate is getting old primarily because it’s going nowhere.”

This debate is a false argument created, produced, and staged by the Democrats to take the heat off of Obowma for his Obowmacare mandate against religious institutions which is unconstitutional…

… The Left should be called out on it along with the Media for pushing the “meme”.

Oh, and I paid $4.33/gal for gas yesterday…

Seven Percent Solution on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

What’s up with the mustache Sandra?

TruthMatters on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT!

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Disgusting, filthy troll

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Sandra Fluke is just another tool to be used by the left and then put away when she’s no longer needed. I’m sure she thinks she’s starting a national dialog and is being encouraged and promoted by those on the left, but she will very quickly fade into irrelevancy. Those who sought to place her in the spotlight will no longer return her calls and her past will diminish more than a few future employment opportunities.

Smart move, Sandra.

John Deaux on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception,

Then, Sandra, why didn’t your boyfriends pay for your contraception?

There, problem solved.

Kingfisher on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

…I thought she was unbelievably spoiled and disdainful of the opinions of others.

Practically the definition of a modern day liberal.

Fallon on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Add this other sentence from Tina’s post to finish it.

Fluke shows very little respect for reality.

The hallmark of Leftist utopianism.

See Thomas Sowell.

INC on March 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I think it is time we start a Sarah Fluke contraception relief fund to buy her a few cases of the condoms of her choice.
If she needs it we can also provide her with various creams, ointment, lotions and lubricants and other sexual sundries.

#Sandrascondoms

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Why are you casting hate upon women that get raped?

blink on March 13, 2012 at 3:23 PMT

The state of Virginia endorses state sanctioned rape. Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT!

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

sesquipedaliam:

*Listens for aircraft over head*,careful AP is loitering on
CAP,with his bomb-bay doors open with a 2000Lb J-DAM!

One thread is already shut-down……careful!!
(snark)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM

wow no foolin’ canopfor. That was a bizarre and completely tasteless post.

dogsoldier on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

They are Catholic women, who see no conflict between their social justice -based faith and family planning

If they don’t see the conflict they need a brain transplant, not contraceptives it’s very clearly defined. And what is this “social-based faith” anyway? something she just made up?

neuquenguy on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Thanks, Rush – If only you had refrained from running off at the mouth and using the “S” word, this woman would have disappeared quickly back into the mist. Now we’ll never be free of her and her nonsense.

JFS61 on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

It turns out, their attack on Rush backfired. So, Rush not only did no damage to Republicans, but he may’ve greatly hurt Obama by highlighting what a shallow and dishonest clown he is. Obama’s so desperate that he has to fight a completely nonexistent battle, like stopping Republicans from making contraception unavailable. You could get birth control pills with $15 a month, but who has a whole $15 a month? You’d have to be a billionaire to afford that.

RBMN on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I put $1 down her blouse. The hairy chest was kind of scary.

SouthernGent on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

As opposed to the hidden misogyny of the left, where they will say whatever sounds good as long as you keep providing the BJs whenever they want. Explain to me how Bill Clinton, John Edwards, JFK, Ted Kennedy – hell most of the Kennedy clan – are NOT misogynists. How much actual respect did any of those guys have for the women in their lives?

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:20 PM

You’re right! I seem to recall one rather attractive lady who would have survived a car driven off a bridge in Massachusetts, but the wanna-be presidential hopeful didn’t want to be caught in the vicinity, and left her to suffocate after the air became unbreatheable after a few hours.

Where was our presidential hopeful? Across the river in a hotel not mentioning to anyone where he had been.

Turtle317 on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

social justice-based faith

Um… I thought it was a faith based on the word of Christ and the salvation of the soul. At least the Church I belong to is. But then again, I’m just one of those oppressor men who want to keep a woman from reaching her full… oh forget it…

crazy_legs on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

sesquipedaliam:

*Listens for aircraft over head*,careful AP is loitering on
CAP,with his bomb-bay doors open with a 2000Lb J-DAM!

One thread is already shut-down……careful!!
(snark)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM

O.K. I’ll bite. Sesquip, you’re a troll. A lonely, angry, attention-starved, troll. What possible use is it for you to come here every day? Do you enjoy bothering people in real life as well? Do you enjoy entering a discussion with the sole purpose of ticking off everyone else in the room? Or is it just on the internet, where your anonymity permits you to be boorish? What deep-seated need is met when you post your tripe only to have it shredded by at least a half dozen of us? Help me understand what drives you to continually go where you are clearly not welcome, just to make yourself unwelcome. What type of personality is this?

CurtZHP on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

By all means keep talking Ms. Fluke. Your crusade is doing more damage to the Obama administration than anything the Republicans can dredge up.

Mike Honcho on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT!
 
sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

 
I’m guessing you’re informed enough to know the ratio of rape-abortions to recreational-abortions, right?
 
Share them with us, please. (Hint- we know them.)

rogerb on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

The beautifully ironic thing is that opponents of Fluke’s position have no desire to silence her. For it is in evaluating piss poor arguments that attitudes change, not in forcing ideas down one’s throat. Speak, child! For every time you open your mouth and purvey arguments that are illogical, self-defeating, impractical, and injurious to Americans of faith and reason, you put another nail in the coffin of these ideas from the perspective of popular opinion. Your side may be louder but our side is RIGHT.

Granted, BHObama and the Mongol hordes on the Left are unwilling to engage the arguments on their face but there is a cost to those who consider everyday Americans too stupid to have an opinion–it’s called election day. Reap what you sow, punks.

GoodSamaritan on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Come on, sweetie…

Washington Nearsider on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

So…um….Ms.Fluke is the PosterWoman for Liberals,er
Democrats,er Progressives…..awesomelicious!!
(sarc)

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT!

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Ya – I actually have to agree with you on that one. I don’t think we should allow the genetic line of rapists to keep going. And unless the kid is put up for adoption, how will he/she be treated growing up? Especially after the mother/victim spends 9 months being constantly reminded of what happened to her.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Soledad seems to be going for a classy week of getting things wrong and having less than newsworthy guests.

And yes Elizabeth Warren is hooked into the Fluke thing as well as doing PR for the HBO movie Game Change.

Scott Brown call your office.

CommentGuy on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

that’s “social-justice based faith” (not that it makes it any more real)

neuquenguy on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I can see the appeal this activist has for lefty women.

How does her 21st-century welfare queen schtick play with independent and conservative women?

And let’s conduct that poll after those polled are given a few columns written by conservative-economist-Shafts Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams.

C’mon, ladies. This makes no sense for anyone who has the wherewithal to pay. Why interject the government into yet another market?

BuckeyeSam on March 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM

:) Canopfor

cmsinaz on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

When are you liberals going to speak up about child predators, like the one my co-worker is trying to locate now after he left several threatening sexual messages on her 14-year-old daughter’s cell phone? I guess if the girl just has free birth control pills she has nothing to worry about, right?

When are you liberals going to speak up about sexual slavery in America? Girls and young women are being abducted and lured into slavery every day all over America. Where is the outrage from the liberals and the feminists? I guess if the girls just have free birth control they have nothing to worry about while they are forced to have sex 20 times a day with strangers and kept away from their families!

You have NO IDEA WHAT MISOGYNY IS.

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

I think it is time we start a Sarah Fluke contraception relief fund to buy her a few cases of the condoms of her choice.

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

She needs so many condoms, I’m afraid we need an Airlift

faraway on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

LOL…she’s on every stupid liberal news show. How is she silenced?

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Have you seen MSDNC’s ratings?

Fluke’s statement kind of reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction “You won’t answer my calls, you change your number. I mean, I’m not gonna be ignored” GRIN.

Dr Evil on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Of course she won’t be silenced! This is exactly what she’s worked for her entire adult life: to snag someone with her troll bait so that she is given a national platform by the media to spew her nonsense.

I can’t help but notice that of the long list of different reasons she gave for these medicines being legitimate, they read something like this:
- ovarian cancer treatment
- pregnancy prevention
- pregnancy prevention
- pregnancy prevention
- pregnancy prevention
- pregnancy prevention

It’s really just a lot of talk to say one thing, with the cancer victim card thrown in, because we can’t have a good Dem troll without using the extremes to define the middle.

Not to mention the lies that this is about denying access or preventing women from having the stuff.

The Schaef on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Um… I thought it was a faith based on the word of Christ and the salvation of the soul. At least the Church I belong to is. But then again, I’m just one of those oppressor men who want to keep a woman from reaching her full… oh forget it…

crazy_legs on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Religion to liberals is a tool to get free stuff.

But what isn’t?

They are thieves.

tetriskid on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Is there an ‘Ignore’ button for this woman?

Chip on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Rosie the Un-Riveting.

EMD on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

That is my favorite C.S. Lewis quote, but I don’t think it applies here because Tina isn’t asking Fluke to conform to her ideology but to understand, though we don’t care what Fluke uses her birth control for we don’t want to pay for it.

I always think of this quote when I hear FLOTUS screech about proper nutrition and health.

dmn1972 on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Sandra you have managed to turn your last name into a verb just like Monica, a girl who could be silenced.

meci on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Why are you casting hate upon women that get raped?

blink on March 13, 2012 at 3:23 PMT

The state of Virginia endorses state sanctioned rape. Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

So you’re casting hate upon women in Virginia, huh?

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Women have put up with misogyny from the right for so long. About time someone spoke up.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Provide examples of this misogyny of which you speak. You’re already too far in the hole after cite the Kennedy clan–and that’s just one lefty family.

Hey, let’s back Roman Polanski.

BuckeyeSam on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

The best contraception she has is that moustache she’s working on.

JeremiahJohnson on March 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM

No kidding.

You’d think before the Dims brought her on stage to testi-lie at their little kabuki-theatre press conference/staged “hearing,” some Dim PR flack would have sprung for an upper lip waxing for their star performer.

Then again, maybe they wanted us to see her cookie duster. Next up: Sandra Fluke stars in “Women of America Demand that the Federal Government Mandate Facial Electrolysis Be Covered in All U.S. Health Insurance Plans.”

AZCoyote on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Ya – I actually have to agree with you on that one. I don’t think we should allow the genetic line of rapists to keep going..

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Would you only kill them before birth or, like some recently in the news, would you advocate post-birth “abortions” for all children of rapists as well?

neuquenguy on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

“Women who have sex when they’re not in a position to become pregnant ”

Maybe Sandra Fluke needs to learn this position.

Ellis on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Judging by her mustache I think she has already learned. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

BAM!! +1000 points from a dad with a teenage daughter

Turtle317 on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

I miss 1950′s housewives

apocalypse on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

We do not want you silenced, sugar. Every time you talk, a tea party somewhere has to find a larger meeting room.

So say it loud and proud. And you know what “it” is.

platypus on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Ya – I actually have to agree with you on that one. I don’t think we should allow the genetic line of rapists to keep going. And unless the kid is put up for adoption, how will he/she be treated growing up? Especially after the mother/victim spends 9 months being constantly reminded of what happened to her.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

If you wouldn’t execute the rapist, what’s the eagerness to execute his child? Her “dad” won’t feel it when the abortionist crushes her.

RBMN on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Liberal women really don’t get it. They think unfettered access to abortion and free contraception are somehow empowering, but really they’re being used by the men of the left as receptacles for bodily fluids without regard to consequence.

Yet they consider themselves enlightened.

John Deaux on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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wow no foolin’ canopfor. That was a bizarre and completely tasteless post.

dogsoldier on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

dogsoldier:Well,I just noticed,hehe,ahem,of all the threads
it was the Pew: Liberals most intolerant online
thread!

And the Soldier Shooting Spree thread a couple of days
ago!

Seems to be Sleeper-Trolls out to ruin this blog,mas
quarding as Rightys no doubt!!

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

She can’t be silenced, but would she please shut up?

Akzed on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I have no desire to hear females talk politics

apocalypse on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

And yes Elizabeth Warren is hooked into the Fluke thing as well as doing PR for the HBO movie Game Change.

Scott Brown call your office.

CommentGuy on March 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Scott Brown got out in front of this immediately, signing on to the Blunt Amendment and writing an op-ed in the Boston Herald defending it as identical to legislation sponsored by Ted Kennedy to guarantee conscience rights for all Catholic organizations. His poll numbers have risen since he did this.

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

***

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Bullshite. You have to explain this.

BuckeyeSam on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

LOL…she’s on every stupid liberal news show. How is she silenced?

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Let’s hope she is never quiet. She’s a gem. An east coast occupy type bEEtchin she want’s her latex for free. Priceless.

WryTrvllr on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Is there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Fluke thinks objectors don’t understand that she’s not asking taxpayers to directly subsidize her birth control.

Why do lefties always think their problems are in the messaging and not inherent deficiencies?

Lost in Jersey on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Um, the only person I see trying to be silenced is Rush Limbaugh.

This whole issue is nothing but a distraction.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

The best contraception she has is that moustache she’s working on.

JeremiahJohnson on March 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM

{chuckle}

Deafdog on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

You forgot one. She gets it in the hospital when the police use a rape kit on her. Guess we need to put a stop to that.

CurtZHP on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Honey (and yes, I mean for that to sound just as condescending as you think), I’m still waiting for the MSM to stop talking about you like you were the second coming of Susan B. Anthony, so I doubt you have any real fear of being silenced.

/eyeroll

tdpwells on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Would you only kill them before birth or, like some recently in the news, would you advocate post-birth “abortions” for all children of rapists as well?

neuquenguy on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

I have no problem with immediate abortions in the case of a rape victim. I don’t support them for simple birth control purposes.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who know that without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life.

Hey, Sandra, those unfair obstacles are called children. You were one of those not so long ago.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

It’s a well-written op-ed…

Possibly, but the chances that Flukey actually wrote it herself are slim & none. She is surrounded by enablers 7×24 now.

KS Rex on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Funny but when I first saw this s***, I thought she looked like some guy that’s on TV or movies. Maybe we should do a chromosome check on her – make sure she ain’t hiding a Y somewhere.

platypus on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Is there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

It’s called a yearbook.

CurtZHP on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I’d rather hear her than see her.

FruitedPlain on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Bullshite. You have to explain this.

BuckeyeSam on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I think they’re referring to the transvaginal ultrasound that may have been required as part of one version of the VA bill. Of course, that wasn’t included in the final version, which Einstein4life ought to know.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state Planned Parenthood if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Fixed.

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM

…without access to contraception, the women they care about can face unfair obstacles to participating in public life…

So women have to be sluts in order to participate in public life? And so the way Clinton treated women was normal in the Liberal world view??

I’ll never look at women who participate in public life the same again!!!

/SARC>

landlines on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Not exactly one of the outstanding thinkers of our time…is she?

They are husbands, partners, boyfriends and male friends who respect a woman’s fertility, who recognize that pregnancy is a possibility even with contraception and are ready and willing to embrace the responsibility of fatherhood and/or committed to forgoing sex if they’re not. And yes, they are young women of all income levels, races, classes and ethnicities who choose to wait to have sex until they are prepared for whatever the consequences of the decision to have sex might be. And we will not be silenced.

THIS^.

Marcus Traianus on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM

That is my favorite C.S. Lewis quote, but I don’t think it applies here because Tina isn’t asking Fluke to conform to her ideology but to understand, though we don’t care what Fluke uses her birth control for we don’t want to pay for it.

I always think of this quote when I hear FLOTUS screech about proper nutrition and health.

dmn1972 on March 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM

ROTFLMAO… You are getting it backwards, it applies because it is the philosophical ideology Sandra Fluke is trying to force down everyone else throat, while simultaneously claiming that everyone else is attempting to silence her. It is Sandra Fluke who is the omnipotent moral busybody who torments us for our own without end because she does so with the approval of her own conscience.

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM

They are Catholic women, who see no conflict between their social justice -based faith and family planning.

So it is Democrat women who need help from Uncle Sugar Daddy in picking a religion, as they don’t have it in them to do it themselves. Now I’m not Catholic, but I’ve never seen Catholicism described as “social justice -based faith and family planning.”

Yikes. You really have come a long way, baby.

MNHawk on March 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Hey, Sandra, those unfair obstacles are called children. You were one of those not so long ago.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Wrong. She was hatched looking just like she does now. All the pod people are like that.

They walk among us. Seriously.

platypus on March 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

In typical Liberal Fashion, she has confused “Being Heard,” with “Being Agreed With.”

This is the same issue when you hear Liberals talk about “Conservative Talk Radio” as if those tuning in have had their arms twisted thus Forcing them to Listen to Conservatives on the Radio and ignoring all of the Liberals.

They also seem to have this new attitude that “A Right Not Subsidised” is a Right Denied.

Okay; So when will the Federal Government be Buying me a Gun?

jaydee_007 on March 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

you got raped? EMBRACE THE GIFT! Kill the innocent child!

sesquipedalian on March 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Fixed.

rockmom on March 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM
You forgot one. She gets it in the hospital when the police use a rape kit on her. Guess we need to put a stop to that.

CurtZHP on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Not just that, but everyone getting an abortion must have a v exam with a speculum.. Because an speculum is sooooo much better than an ultrasound wand///

melle1228 on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM

You’ll find out soon who does the silencing, sweety, and it ain’t the Right.

When and if the Left decides your exposure is a liability, you’ll find out just how fast you’ll be silenced and just how easily they can do it.

Saltysam on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM


Is there a pix of her romeo?

Bambi on March 13, 2012 at 3:33 PM

It’s called a yearbook.

CurtZHP on March 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

…and you may have to throw in a mug book or two.

RBMN on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Judging by her mustache I think she has already learned. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Wade on March 13, 2012 at 3:31 PM

She’s got a nice little bald spot developing at her part line. Hence the comb-over.

Reagan Republican on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM

This whole issue is nothing but a distraction.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I agree. We need to keep saying “Obama’s Gas prices” “Obama’s Depression” over and over again.

Speaking of that, I sent in a candidate for chart of the day to the tip mailbox, that shows our economy is actually worse now than the Depression.

Its from American Thinker.

dogsoldier on March 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I think we both misunderstood each other. When I said it didn’t apply I was thinking you were referencing Tina’s post. My apologies for the mix up.

dmn1972 on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

She needs so many condoms, I’m afraid we need an Airlift

faraway on March 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM

A C-130 perhaps.

NeoKong on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Hey, Sandra, those unfair obstacles are called children. You were one of those not so long ago.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 3:34 PM

True; but she hasn’t gotten over it yet.

jaydee_007 on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

If you wouldn’t execute the rapist, what’s the eagerness to execute his child? Her “dad” won’t feel it when the abortionist crushes her.

RBMN on March 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I would personally execute any rapist who attacked anyone in my family. You’re jumping to conclusions based on no evidence.
If you’ve paid any attention to all else I;ve said in HA, you’d know I’m on the conservative side. I just think rape is a good place for an exception to the abortion issue.

dentarthurdent on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Who is this dude on the picture and why is he talking about women?

Archivarix on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

And a third time if the Democrat male politician employs the Nuts and Sluts defense.

Thanks for playing again, chumplett.

MNHawk on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Sandra Fluke: I will not be silenced

Until she becomes a liability for the Democratic party. Then she’ll shut-up voluntarily or involuntarily.

Cindy Sheehan, anyone?

Kingfisher on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

She could maybe be a good slump buster.

docflash on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

What she actually wrote (Not included in Tina’s quote):

I was among them, and I was proud to share the stories of my friends at Georgetown Law who have suffered dire medical consequences because our student insurance does not cover contraception for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

They are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, who need contraception to prevent cysts from growing on their ovaries, which if unaddressed can lead to infertility and deadly ovarian cancer.

Fluke gives away her own lie with these two paragraphs. She does not give a damn about women with polycystic ovarian syndrome, whose medication is covered under Georgetown’s insurance plan anyway. She wants free contraception “for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.”

And let’s not fall for the “contraception” argument. This is about taxpayer and religious organization-funded abortion. The left knows that it has lost on abortion and that just using the word is a loser for them, so they’ve changed the name to “contraception”, it’s so much more benign. Don’t be fooled.

And what exactly are the “dire medical consequences” of sex without the use of contraception. Pregnancy is a natural condition, not a disease, so she can only be talking about abortion here.

Trafalgar on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

O/T
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US federal deficit estimate for 2012 hiked to $1.2T

Submitted 2 mins ago by editor
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Why is tina using a picture of Ashton Kutcher?

Tim_CA on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I think we both misunderstood each other. When I said it didn’t apply I was thinking you were referencing Tina’s post. My apologies for the mix up.

dmn1972 on March 13, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Tina was asking a rhetorical question, I was providing a rhetorical answer… :)

SWalker on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

So you finally realize that Planned Parenthood rapes women? Good for you!

Kingfisher on March 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

The state of Virginia endorses state sanctioned rape. Every rape victim in VA gets raped twice. Once by the attacker and once by the state if she decides to have an abortion.

liberal4life on March 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Ultrasound done on 99% of all pregnant women = rape

Glorified Hoover attachment inserted vaginally to eviscerate the baby and suck out its remains = totally cool

Well okay, then. Glad we got that sorted.

tdpwells on March 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM

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