Gingrich vows to stay in race as Alabama governor endorses Santorum; Update: Not an endorsement?

posted at 12:45 pm on March 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Tonight, four states hold contests to determine delegate allocations for the Republican presidential nomination, but the two that will be most closely watched tonight will be the primaries in Alabama and Mississippi.  Hawaii and American Samoa hold caucuses that won’t carry the strategic significance of the two Deep South contests.  Or perhaps even these won’t have that much strategic significance, as Newt Gingrich insists that his campaign will continue regardless of tonight’s results:

 No matter what happens in Tuesday’s Mississippi and Alabama primaries, Newt Gingrich says he will remain in the race, and he believes the combination of delegates being amassed by him, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul will keep Mitt Romney from hitting the magic number of 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination.

Speaking on a local Alabama radio show on Tuesday morning, the former House speaker said there is an advantage of using a “tag-team” approach to defeating Romney, the current front-runner.

“With Rick and me together, we are really slowing him down, with some help frankly from Ron Paul,” Gingrich told the radio hosts. “The country is sort of saying, a majority is saying, `Not Romney.’ The biggest bloc is saying Romney, but it’s not a big enough bloc to be a majority. We now are beginning to think he will literally not be able to get the delegates to get the nomination.”

Gingrich really needs wins at this point and not just decent delegate allocations.  Depending on whether one counts only the bound delegates from primaries or the presumed allocations from caucuses, Gingrich is either second or third in total delegates so far, but either way he’s way behind Romney.  It’s one thing to say that Romney’s not winning a majority — in a four-way race, that’s to be expected — but another entirely to claim that winning only two contests out of 30 (by the end of the night) makes one a credible contender against two others with more outright wins.  Even if Romney doesn’t get to a majority, what would Gingrich’s argument be for being the more electable candidate if he couldn’t carry anywhere near the number of states that the frontrunner(s) won?

At least Gingrich is in fighting distance of the lead in both Alabama and Mississippi, but in Alabama, Rick Santorum picked up an important endorsement:

Gov. Robert Bentley of Alabama endorsed Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Tuesday, the same day as voters head to the polls in the state’s primary.

Bentley’s support was announced on the nationally syndicated radio program, “The Rick and Bubba Show,” by Alabama Congressman Robert Aderholt. …

The nod marks a big get for the former Pennsylvania senator, who falls slightly behind rivals Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich in the state, according to recent polls.

Santorum had seemed to be dropping off the pace a bit in Alabama, which helped Gingrich.  An endorsement might provide Santorum with some momentum for late deciders, although gubernatorial endorsements haven’t always paid off — as Mitt Romney found out in South Carolina, for instance.  As for Romney, Politico’s Jonathan Martin thinks a win tonight will seal the deal, or that at least a good performance will keep both Gingrich and Santorum in the race:

In a topsy-turvy GOP primary, where the unexpected has been the norm, such a final plot twist may be altogether fitting: The Mormon Yankee who thinks cheese grits are a revelation effectively seals the nomination in Alabama and Mississippi.

Mitt Romney has a shot to win both states — polls show him leading or effectively tied in each. But even if the former Massachusetts governor doesn’t take them outright, the apparent resurgence of Newt Gingrich in the Deep South has once again muddled the primary-within-a-primary so that Rick Santorum is going to be denied his wish to get a clean shot at the front-runner. …

“I think it’s over if he wins here,” said Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant of Romney after a Monday rally with comedian Jeff Foxworthy at a trucking company outside Jackson. “At that point how do you go and say, ‘I’m the most conservative candidate’ if you can’t win the most conservative state in the country?”

Bryant is a Romney backer, but such sentiment isn’t difficult to pick up across the two deep red states. If one of the two conservative alternatives can’t decisively defeat the establishment favorite in Mississippi and Alabama, which have veered even more sharply to the right in the Obama era, it’s difficult to imagine either of them constructing an electoral firewall that can halt Romney’s march to Tampa.

Will there be a game changer tonight?  Frankly, I doubt it, and not just because none of the candidates have shown any inclination to depart the race so far.  As I explain in my column for The Week, we’re exiting a six-week period of intense simultaneous contests, and the primary schedule from this point forward slows down to a point where Romney’s organizational advantages lessen:

However, to borrow a phrase from Winston Churchill, tonight may be the end of the beginning, if not the beginning of the end. The primary schedule slows down considerably after tonight’s contests. After a serial start to the caucuses and primaries in January, most of the last six weeks have kept candidates busy campaigning in multiple states. That reached its apex in last week’s Super Tuesday battles in 10 states. Now, the four states today provide a last echo of the opening phase of the nomination fight. By the time the polls and caucuses close tonight, we will have completed 30 primaries and caucuses.

From this point forward, the contests come mostly one at a time — and with some significant down time between them. Missouri, Puerto Rico, and Illinois will take place over the next week, followed on the March 24 by Louisiana’s primary — but these all come singly rather than get lumped into one day. After Louisiana, Republicans have 10 days off before they spoil my birthday on April 3 with three primaries — and then another three weeks go by before five states hold primaries on April 24.

The sudden deceleration of the nomination process has some consequences for the race besides giving pundits more time to do math and analyze polls. The advantages of money and organization are most critical when candidates have to campaign simultaneously in several states, as has been the rule for most of the last six weeks. Now that the candidates have more time between contests, the money advantage matters less, and the three candidates not named Mitt Romney have less pressure on them to concede and withdraw.

Like last week’s Super Tuesday, I don’t expect tonight’s contests to settle anything — which is what I meant when I wrote that there was no “winner” from the night.  The only possibility for a change in the race might be if Gingrich fails to win either Alabama or Mississippi tonight and if Romney wins one of the two.  At that point, Gingrich won’t have much credibility left as a candidate even in a brokered convention, and a Romney win would give him added credibility as a national candidate.  If Gingrich wins both, or he splits them with Santorum, the race will go on as before, and it will be a long haul to June before this gets settled to the satisfaction of either of them.

Update: When is an endorsement not an endorsement?  When it’s merely a vote:

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley admitted Tuesday that he voted for former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum in the state’s primary, but argued that shouldn’t be read as an endorsement of Santorum’s presidential campaign.

“I view Rick Santorum as the most conservative candidate in the Republican presidential primary,” Bentley wrote on Facebook after word leaked out on the radio in Alabama that he voted for Santorum.

On Tuesday morning, Santorum’s campaign blasted out a press release reporting that Alabama Republican Rep. Robert Aderholt relayed the news of who Bentley voted for on the “Rick and Bubba Show.”

Shortly after that, Bentley, who for weeks has said he wouldn’t endorse, took to his Facebook page to argue that the disclosure of his vote doesn’t mean he has made an endorsement.

Then maybe he should have kept his choice to himself, as well as his opinion of Rick Santorum.  It’s a silly distinction.  What’s the point of declaring how you voted if it’s not to in some way endorse that candidate or position?


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Gov. Nikki Haley’s endorsement sure delivered South Carolina for Romney, didn’t it?

portlandon on March 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I have a problem with a representative of a State, endorsing anybody.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Tonight, four states hold contests to determine delegate allocations for the Republican presidential nomination, but the two that will be most closely watched tonight will be the primaries in Alabama and Mississippi. Hawaii and American Samoa hold caucuses that won’t carry the strategic significance of the two Deep South contests.

American Samoa gained statehood?

Must be one of those extra 7 states Obama was referring to.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Get out!? Really?

kirkill on March 13, 2012 at 12:52 PM

American Samoa gained statehood?

Must be one of those extra 7 states Obama was referring to.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 12:50 PM

This reminds me of Animal House:

Mr. Kroger, 2 C’s, 2 D’s and an F. That’s a 1.2 grade average. Congratulations Kroger! You’re at the top of the Delta pledge class!

OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Oh no…the politcal commercials are coming to IL. I hope they do not advertise on the Discovery, Science and History channels.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I have a problem with a representative of a State, endorsing anybody.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I’m trying to imagine what kind of brainless wonder would let any endorsement decide how he’s going to vote.

whatcat on March 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Bentley’s support was announced on the nationally syndicated radio program, “The Rick and Bubba Show,” by Alabama Congressman Robert Aderholt.

(1) Since when do Congressmen announce Governor endorsements by proxy?
(2) Since when did Bill Clinton start doing a nationally syndicated radio program?

ShainS on March 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM

“I think it’s over if he wins here,” said Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant of Romney after a Monday rally with comedian Jeff Foxworthy at a trucking company outside Jackson. “At that point how do you go and say, ‘I’m the most conservative candidate’ if you can’t win the most conservative state in the country?”

Bryant is a Romney backer

Seems the “most conservative state in the country” lacks a conservative governor.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM

“The end of the beginning.”

This is exactly right.

These are the lead up stages to that beginning drawing to a close and within a few weeks the beginning will be over, unless there are some serious changes in voting turnout.

After that is the beginning of the middle… and believe me, that is not going to be a short duration. It stretches on for, now weeks, but months and perhaps longer than three or five.

The end is holding our elected representatives feet to the fire at all levels of government, without exception based on ANYTHING, and getting this obnoxious monstrosity rolled back.

That will take more than one lifetime.

Hope you are ready to be in the middle of it, because that isn’t going to be any more fun than the beginning was. And the end doesn’t get pleasant for a few decades.

Yummy.

ajacksonian on March 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

He waited till today to endorse? How pathetic.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

****************** Newt-A-Mania *****************************

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM

He waited till today to endorse? How pathetic.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

That’s the kind of excitement a Romney candidacy will engender.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Gov. Nikki Haley’s endorsement sure delivered South Carolina for Romney, didn’t it?

portlandon on March 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I wouldn’t blame her. Romney and his team were off their game that week. That whole tax thing, and newt’s debates was his downfall in SC.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM

He waited till today to endorse? How pathetic.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

From the link:

Update: An earlier version of this story said the governor had endorsed the candidate, but Bentley insists his vote for the candidate is not an endorsement.

A governor should wait to voting day to announce who he voted for if he does not intend to endorse.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM

I wouldn’t blame her. Romney and his team were off their game that week. That whole tax thing, and newt’s debates was his downfall in SC.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM

If Romney wins the nomination, you’d better hope he and his team aren’t “off their game” the first week of November.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 1:03 PM

[snip ...]

The end is holding our elected representatives feet to the fire at all levels of government, without exception based on ANYTHING, and getting this obnoxious monstrosity rolled back.

That will take more than one lifetime.

Hope you are ready to be in the middle of it, because that isn’t going to be any more fun than the beginning was. And the end doesn’t get pleasant for a few decades.

Yummy. Yucky.

ajacksonian on March 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Agree with the reality-based long-term cynicism (except the last word). :-)

And I’d say your analysis is an optimistic one at best; hard to imagine the more likely failed version …

ShainS on March 13, 2012 at 1:03 PM

“You just might be an egocentric putz…….. if you think you are a viable because you win 2 or maybe 3 outta the 50+ somethin states”

Newton Leroy- we’re not into you as much as you thought we would be.

Ron Paul- WTeff? Stop the charade

ABRs- get your act together

FlaMurph on March 13, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Ed, you should change the headline to match the story you linked to . The AL gov only voted for Santorum, he did not endorse.

Count me on the side that a vote for does not imply endorsement.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Hang in there Newt…!!!

:)

Seven Percent Solution on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

“I’m a PROGRESSIVE”—Mitt Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0zQRUCDlM

“If We Lower Taxes…We’ll Get Our Head Handed To Us Politically”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlFhUruaXZo&feature=related

“I was an INDEPENDENT during the period of Reagan/Bush.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4iWPXDojY

“Global warming is real, I believe humans contribute to that (significant contributors).”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIDESZWAlz8

How is Romney gaining the nomination a good thing for Conservatives exactly?

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

The end is already here for Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Neither one could beat Obama and neither one can win enough delegates to even get the nomination.

Republicans are wanting to unite behind a candidate who actually can and WILL defeat Obama, and that is one reason why people are choosing Mitt over those other two.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I’m trying to imagine what kind of brainless wonder would let any endorsement decide how he’s going to vote.

whatcat on March 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Oh, America has plenty of brainless wonders. But, my main issue is that a Governor is, theoretically, a “representative” of all of the People of his/her State. It seems like a conflict to me, for him to cast aside his “representative” status, in order to express his “personal” political thoughts – while in his official capacity.

Just doesn’t seem right, to me.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Alabama 2012 Election Information
*********************************

http://www.sos.state.al.us/elections/2012/ElectionInfo2012.aspx

canopfor on March 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Ed, you should change the headline to match the story you linked to . The AL gov only voted for Santorum, he did not endorse.

Count me on the side that a vote for does not imply endorsement.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Did you send Ed an email? Ed should change the headline. You are absolutely right.

Ed Morrissey is an admitted Rick Santorum promoter and often spins the news in Santorum’s favor, even though the social issues extremist Rick Santorum has virtually no chance of winning the nomination and could never beat Obama.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I’m trying to imagine what kind of brainless wonder would let any endorsement decide how he’s going to vote.

whatcat on March 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM

The kind that voted for Christine O’Donnell in the 2010 primaries.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Who is the present Governor of Alabama?

Dr Evil on March 13, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Ed, you should change the headline to match the story you linked to . The AL gov only voted for Santorum, he did not endorse.

Count me on the side that a vote for does not imply endorsement.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

This clears things up for me. I don’t think that how one voted is the same as an endorsement in an official capacity.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Unelectable social issues extremist Rick Santorum is getting help from liberal Democrats and the mainstream media who want to try to ensure that Obama gets an easy opponent. They know that Rick Santorum would be very easy for Obama to defeat.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Count me on the side that a vote for does not imply endorsement.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

.
‘Jeff, that logic does not compute.

listens2glenn on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

From the DailyCaller:

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley admitted Tuesday that he voted for former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum in the state’s primary, but argued that shouldn’t be read as an endorsement of Santorum’s presidential campaign.

And now, from Hot Air:


Gingrich vows to stay in race as Alabama governor endorses Santorum

I don’t know who is right and who is wrong. But, what I do know is that they can’t both be right.

rogaineguy on March 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM

I’m trying to imagine what kind of brainless wonder would let any endorsement decide how he’s going to vote.

whatcat on March 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM

The kind that voted for Christine O’Donnell in the 2010 primaries.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Totally wrong. People who heed endorsements are usually underinformed. People who voted for The Pretty Witch of the East were overenthusiastic. Unfortunately, both groups combined form about half the GOP base, even with a significant overlap.

Archivarix on March 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The kind that voted for Christine O’Donnell in the 2010 primaries.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM

So who is O’Donnell backing in 2012? Ah, yes. The Mittless wonder.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

.
Nope . . . again.

And again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on March 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Your entire attempt at “argument” rests on unprovable premises, making your words here — as in most of your other comments — meaningless.

[Sorry, had some extra crumbs but will now stop feeding the troll.]

ShainS on March 13, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Why is Santorum so convinced he’d win a floor fight if we end up with the nightmare scenario where this goes to Tampa?

We’d have less than 10 weeks at that point to take on Obama. Why would delegates hand it over to the social-con candidate who galvanizes the Left, and lacks money and organization when jobs and the economy is the #1 issue and will continue to be so in November?

Buy Danish on March 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Totally wrong. People who heed endorsements are usually underinformed. People who voted for The Pretty Witch of the East were overenthusiastic. Unfortunately, both groups combined form about half the GOP base, even with a significant overlap.

Archivarix on March 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM

No, she won the primary almost solely because of a high profile endorsement from you-know-who.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Why would delegates hand it over to the social-con candidate who galvanizes the Left, and lacks money and organization when jobs and the economy is the #1 issue and will continue to be so in November?

Buy Danish on March 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM

This to me is where Gingrich has an advantage. He’s the compromise candidate between Romney and Santorum.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:16 PM

‘Jeff, that logic does not compute.

listens2glenn on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Endorsements usually entail promotion of a candidate. It does not appear that the AL gov promoted Santorum. He was probably asked a question on a radio show, “Who did you vote for?” and he answer it (which I would hope a gov would).

So if you can show me stories of the AL gov on the campaign trail talking up Santorum, I think the logic does hold.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:17 PM

No, she won the primary almost solely because of a high profile endorsement from you-know-who.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Such an unimportant, ineffective lady to have such incredible influence, wouldn’t you say?

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Let’s talk polls for the trolls……

This one from three weeks ago. SANTORUM BEATS Obama.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/02/27/poll-santorum-beats-obama.html

This one from this week. SANTORUM BEATS Obama.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-poll-shows-both-romney-and-santorum-beating-obama-in-head-to-head/


This one from 1980 that shows JIMMY CARTER with a WHOPPING 34 POINT LEAD over RONALD REAGAN.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/vault/Harris-Interactive-Poll-Research-CARTER-NOW-FAR-AHEAD-OF-BOTH-REAGAN-AND-BUSH-1980-01.pdf

Wanna talk how Santorum is UNELECTABLE?……….rrrrigght.

NOT BUYING IT.

NO MORE PROGRESSIVE Squishy Bush like gop Nominees.

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Why is Santorum so convinced he’d win a floor fight if we end up with the nightmare scenario where this goes to Tampa?

Buy Danish on March 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM

He misinterpreted the voices in his head as being messages from God.

I’m pretty sure his campaign strategy includes the phrase “and then a miracle happens”.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Unlike Newt Gingrich, who won the major primary in South Carolina, the unelectable Rick Santorum has never won a single major, heavily-contested primary.

Social issues extremist Santorum has only won a couple of primaries where no one else was campaigning in a serious way, despite the fact that liberal Democrats, labor unions and Obama-worshiping media (who want to give Obama an easy opponent like Rick Santorum) have been coming out in force for Santorum.

Senator Sanctimonious Santorum can’t win, even when the liberals, labor unions and Obama-supporting news media are helping him!

VIDEO: Liberal Democrats for Rick Santorum

Annoy a Liberal, Vote for ANYONE BUT Santorum!

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

interesting, santorium this morning on Fox radio w/Brian kilmeade says Fox news is in the tank for romneycare. I know it’s obvious they are, but for him to say it publically is eye opening.

Danielvito on March 13, 2012 at 1:20 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM

wonderful warm wishful thinking, Code Brown.

gracie on March 13, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Gingrich is the new Ron Paul.

He’ll stay in the race even after it is long over.

CABE on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

This clears things up for me. I don’t think that how one voted is the same as an endorsement in an official capacity.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

HA doesn’t to links to CNN very well, if all. But if you Google the headline:

“Alabama governor says he’s voting for Santorum, not endorsing him”

it’ll get you to the CNN news story.

whatcat on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I’m sorry but when I read Gingrich saying to the effect that I know I can’t win but as long as I take delegates AWAY from Romney then I am proud of myself!

This is NOT good for the party overall. Our party is devolving into a eat your own party in the last 2-3 years and it is disappointing. IN prior elections going back decades candidates would drop out FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY once they knew there was not a legitimate shot at the nomination…in this year’s case it seems there is so much bitterness on our own side and this may hurt us in the General.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I’m not sure if Rmoney can win in either of the two Southern states mentioned. I could be wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time. I see a split Newt one Santorum one.

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

interesting, santorium this morning on Fox radio w/Brian kilmeade says Fox news is in the tank for romneycare. I know it’s obvious they are, but for him to say it publically is eye opening.

Danielvito on March 13, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Maybe recently as they see Newt’s fade in Nat polls- but FOX were big Newters from the start – with Palin & Hannity top Cheer team

FlaMurph on March 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Wanna talk how Santorum is UNELECTABLE?……….rrrrigght.

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Because if he’s the nominee we will spend the entire election talking about contraception. We can’t afford that kind of distraction. At least when we talk about Gingrich’s blasphemies like Freddie or Medicare Part D, the Democrats are on the wrong side of those issues from the general public. On contraception Santorum is a distinct minority so that issue will be played ad nauseum; we’ll have an entire campaign built around “The War on Women” and we’ll counter that about as effectively as we have all month, which is to say not very. Disaster.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Apparently I’m still here. Thanks! My first comment should have read,
I see a split, Newt one, Santorum one.

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM

FOX were big Newters from the start – with Palin & Hannity top Cheer team

FlaMurph on March 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Delusional. Seek professional help. FOX has always been about Romney and Romney only. Palin is just a contributor.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Why is Santorum so convinced he’d win a floor fight if we end up with the nightmare scenario where this goes to Tampa?

We’d have less than 10 weeks at that point to take on Obama. Why would delegates hand it over to the social-con candidate who galvanizes the Left, and lacks money and organization when jobs and the economy is the #1 issue and will continue to be so in November?

Good question. I think the chances of Santorum or
Gingrich winning a floor fight are slim to none, but I doubt it’s ever going to get that far anyway. Tonight’s the end of the road unless either one of them wins both MS and AL this evening which isn’t looking good for them.

eyedoc on March 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

no feeding the trolls (or the fish)

screwauger on March 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Apparently I’m still here. Thanks! My first comment should have read,
I see a split, Newt one, Santorum one.

I see Romney winning MS, and coming in a close second to Gingrich in AL.

eyedoc on March 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Jimmy Carter leads George Bush (the Iowa Caucus winner and choice of the gop Ruling class) by 30 points.

Some quotes from the polling this time in 1980.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/vault/Harris-Interactive-Poll-Research-CARTER-NOW-FAR-AHEAD-OF-BOTH-REAGAN-AND-BUSH-1980-01.pdf

“….the incredible political comeback of President Carter”.

“July 1976 he was 39 points ahead of President Ford.”

“in the suburbs, Carter is now ahead of Reagan by a MASSIVE 66-30 percent.”

“Political independents give him (Carter) a 63-31 percent lead.”


“among those who call themselves Conservatives, Carter has a SUBSTANTIAL 57-39 percent edge.”

Polls?……….this is the mother of all polls.

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Annoy a Liberal, Vote for ANYONE BUT Santorum!
bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM

wtmwu?? You’ve gone so nuts over this that you are now eating your own face.

gracie on March 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM

in this year’s case it seems there is so much bitterness on our own side and this may hurt us in the General.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Feel free to blame the folks who insisted months and months ago that Romney was the only sensible candidate, when it was clear the base didn’t agree. Or a front-runner whose sole strategy is demeaning his opponents. That always creates good feelings.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

ATTN: ED MORRISSEY, RE: your Factually Incorrect Headline

Ed Morrissey, in your haste to try to prop up the sinking campaign of the unelectable social issues extremist, Rick Santorum, you made up an endorsement that never happened.

RECENT ARTICLE:

Alabama Governor Says His Vote for Santorum Wasn’t An Endorsement

Ed Morrissey, we expect you to correct your erroneous headline ASAP, with your apology added to the post and an assurance that you’ll be more honest and careful in the future.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

“Unelectable social issues extremist Rick Santorum is getting help from liberal Democrats and the mainstream media who want to try to ensure that Obama gets an easy opponent. They know that Rick Santorum would be very easy for Obama to defeat.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM”

I must congratulate you on your Leftist style of attack…

… You would make Alinsky proud.

Seven Percent Solution on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

This is NOT good for the party overall. Our party is devolving into a eat your own party in the last 2-3 years and it is disappointing. IN prior elections going back decades candidates would drop out FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY once they knew there was not a legitimate shot at the nomination…in this year’s case it seems there is so much bitterness on our own side and this may hurt us in the General.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

You’re absolutely right. When the goal of beating Obama has been supplanted with stopping Romney, there’s a problem.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 1:28 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/13/santorum-fox-news-is-shilling-for-mitt-romney/

Read this and tell me SAntorum is not a whiner. Whether it is him ALWAYS complaining about what he DOESN’T have or what others are giving other candidates…sheeeeesh!

I liked RS until this election as it seemed in almost all of the debates or out on the trail he whines about everything and it is very off-putting especially for a POTUS candidate.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Ed Morrissey, we expect you to correct your erroneous headline ASAP, with your apology added to the post and an assurance that you’ll be more honest and careful in the future.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Meh. A vote for him is pretty much an endorsement, isn’t it? And seeing as how it was announced just today, and that they don’t matter much anyway, it’s of even less import.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I see Romney winning MS, and coming in a close second to Gingrich in AL.

eyedoc on March 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM

You may well be correct. You being the eyedoc probably have a correct prescription, unlike me. I’m overdue. ; )

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ronald Reagan was unafraid to touch the most emotional SOCIAL ISSUE of our time.

Why should CONSERVATIVES let the left run roughshod over traditional values at will?

Silent no more…………CONSERVATIVES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o000KW_wLA

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Then maybe he should have kept his choice to himself, as well as his opinion of Rick Santorum.

If he did that, then he would get labeled a wimp\spinless for not disclosing who he voted for.

My guess he was not passionate about any of the candidates, hard to believe :-/, thus, just revealed who he voted for.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:34 PM

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Unfortunately pap, it will soon be Tax payers vs not and when you add in soros, alinkskites and acorn/move on – bit different picture today than in 1984 (like I said, unfortunately)

screwauger on March 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

We get it. Your on Romney’s campaign payroll.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

And seeing as how it was announced just today, and that they don’t matter much anyway, it’s of even less import.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM

The Alabama Governor did NOT endorse the unelectable Rick Santorum.

Facts might “not matter much anyway” to Santorum supporters, but that doesn’t mean that Rick Santorum-supporting bloggers should be excused when they write headlines that are FLAT OUT WRONG.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

in this year’s case it seems there is so much bitterness on our own side and this may hurt us in the General.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Feel free to blame the folks who insisted months and months ago that Romney was the only sensible candidate, when it was clear the base didn’t agree. Or a front-runner whose sole strategy is demeaning his opponents. That always creates good feelings.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Always…
it is has already been proven on HA and other places that the problem is not “Romney being unable to close the deal” as the headlines like to read, it is the PROCESS that is jacked up and even if the leaders were switched atop the polls (take your pick of whoever RS, NG, RP) none of those would be an outright leader either AND the headlines would be “Gingrich unable to close the deal…” It is the freakin’ delegate system this year. not only that but the way the candidates are still going after each other when frankly Gingrich should drop out and Santorum unless he wins one of the four tonight should drop out as well. The math is just not there and he cannot catch Romney.

Our candidate needs to start banking money for themselves to ready the fight against Obama. The people HAVE spoken with their votes and they like Romney as he has won in ALL PARTS of the country AND also is THE ONLY one that has competed in ALL PORTIONS of the country. How are looking at nominating someone on our side who cannot even get their names on ballots NOR campaign there? This should be a HUGE sign.

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

it is has already been proven on HA and other places that the problem is not “Romney being unable to close the deal”

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Prove it, then. Show me.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

You worry too much. Your guy Rmoney will be the nom, short of a contested convention. Not likely to happen. How you doing?

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Well, well, well – look how the extremists at MassResistance are doing God’s work for Rick Santorum. Robocall text:

“Hi, my name is Brian Camenker; I’m a Jew from Massachusetts.

“And, this is Darcy Brandon; I’m a Christian from California. If you believe as we do that marriage and sexuality should only be between a man and a woman, please help us stop Mitt Romney.

“As Governor, Romney signed ‘Gay Youth Pride Day’ proclamations, promoted homosexuality in our elementary schools, and unconstitutionally ordered state officials to make Massachusetts America’s first same-sex marriage state.

“Romney supports open homosexuality in the military, the appointment of homosexual judges, and the ENDA law, making it illegal to fire a man who wears a dress and high heels to work, even if he’s your kid’s teacher.

“When you vote tomorrow, please vote for social sanity and Rick Santorum, NOT for homosexuality and Mitt Romney.

“Rick Santorum is the ONLY candidate who can be trusted to uphold traditional marriage, a straight military, and the rights of American children to have both a mother and a father.

“This message paid for by Jews and Christians Together.org and not authorized by any candidate. To get the facts before you vote, visit Jews and Christians Together.org.”

Y’all think this is a winner for Rick Santorum?

Buy Danish on March 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

You worry too much. Your guy Rmoney will be the nom, short of a contested convention. Not likely to happen. How you doing?

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Doing well…we finally moved to a new location but still in the East..We have that lone soldier going off base down South and killing those villagers. That should make the Taliban (TB) “happy” and cause more issues for us. They (TB) are the masters at I/O campaigns of making the US look bad and will definitely use that incident against us.

How about you?

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

[Willard] being unable to close the deal

He’s been running for 6 years, and spent over $100 milion. . . and the dogs still won’t eat it.

Emperor Norton on March 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

It is time for Rick and Newt to get out of the race (Ron Paul will never quit). They cannot win. Their dream of denying Mitt his 1,144 delegates and winning the nomination at a brokered convention is delusional. Mitt has more delegates than all the others combined; what makes them think that the convention would nominate a candidate who wins less than half as many delegates as the frontrunner? As for this argument that Rick or Newt is the “true conservative” alternative to Romney, it turns out that self-identified conservatives are the ones voting for Mitt more than for the other two, in most contests to date.

FogDog on March 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

The Alabama Governor did NOT endorse the unelectable Rick Santorum.

Facts might “not matter much anyway” to Santorum supporters, but that doesn’t mean that Rick Santorum-supporting bloggers should be excused when they write headlines that are FLAT OUT WRONG.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I’m not a Santorum supporter, but you’re arguing semantics about something that frankly doesn’t really matter.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Thank you to Ed Morrissey for the update.

However, there should be no question mark in the headline. The governor stated VERY CLEARLY that he did not make an endorsement.

I believe that the AL Governor was just trying to maintain some trendy “conservative cred” among particular groups, particularly those who listen to certain loudmouth radio talk show hosts.

We all know that Rick Santorum can’t win the nomination and could never beat Obama.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Why is Santorum so convinced he’d win a floor fight if we end up with the nightmare scenario where this goes to Tampa?

Serious queation. Have there been many current or former Senators that serveed with Santorum come out and back him? I can think of one…can’t remember the name.

bluealice on March 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM

it is has already been proven on HA and other places that the problem is not “Romney being unable to close the deal”

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Prove it, then. Show me.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM

always…I am too tired right now as it has been a looooong day for me over here in AFG BUT I am sure someone can point you to the articles that it would not matter if RS or NG were in the lead right now this race WOULD NOT be over technically speaking…and if Romney were in the same position as these two, being a financial guy, he would recognize that his staying in would ONLY HURT the party and would bow out and start campaigning for the leader…BUT not RS and NG. This is personal and they know there is not a feasible way of catching Romney but they are staying in for what? To drain Romney of finances and whack him around some more for the MSM and Obama?

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Yeah, I read about the one lone fellow. Unfortunately it happens. I’m doing well, very busy, I was actually on my way out the door. I just wanted to say hi and remind you, you have enough to worry about, without worrying about Rmoney. Get some sleep. When you get settled in let me know. Would love to send some stuff your way. Later. : )

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Unelectable Rick Santorum is the trendy “conservative” candidate right now, even though he has a liberal economic record in many respects.

It’s pathetic how people who like to claim to be Tea Party purists are slobbering all over Rick Santorum, a man who last here vowed to fight against the Tea Party and libertarians.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

blue…I am a huge Romney supporter but you are insufferable at times! :o)

Even when Ed fixes the headlines you are on him! Sheesh! ;o)

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM

So he’s unelectable now? I don’t know any Tea Party person who are slobbering over any of them. Do you contend that Rmoney has no liberal record. Just want to make sure I understand the new you. Reprimands are hard.

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Thanks, my friend! Will do. have a great day!

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

You know Romney could have fought to the end with McCain, and spent a ton of his money. He did what all good candidates do. Drop out gracefully when they know they are beaten.

rubberneck on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

However, there should be no question mark in the headline. The governor stated VERY CLEARLY that he did not make an endorsement.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I hate when question marks are used in headlines. It’s just a way to sow doubt ro create suspicion. At least this site is not meant to be objective, so I will cut Ed a little slack here.

WashJeff on March 13, 2012 at 1:53 PM

I’m not a Santorum supporter, but you’re arguing semantics about something that frankly doesn’t really matter.

changer1701 on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

You may be right, but I think every little bit helps in a close race like this. I think it’s okay to expect Ed Morrissey to be accurate. If I were in his position, I would want people to be holding me to a higher standard, too.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM

no feeding the trolls (or the fish)

screwauger on March 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

As a Romney backer, I believe that Nietzsche pretty much nailed her motives:

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science

thuja on March 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Methinks thou dost protest a little too much.

Bitter Clinger on March 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM

it is has already been proven on HA and other places that the problem is not “Romney being unable to close the deal”

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Prove it, then. Show me.

alwaysfiredup on March 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM

always…I am too tired right now as it has been a looooong day for me over here in AFG BUT I am sure someone can point you to the articles that it would not matter if RS or NG were in the lead right now this race WOULD NOT be over technically speaking…
g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Here’s one post that might help:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/12/will-mathematics-trump-gingrich-santorum-and-michael-steele/

Syzygy on March 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Thanks, my disagreeable friend! Will do. have a great day!

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Fix it for you. Sleep well. : )

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

thuja on March 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Wow, now that I get. ; )

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Off topic here kind of:
I just saw this quote and thought I’d share…sorry if you have already seen/heard this…when you’re on the other side of the world sometimes you do not see things daily:

“Sean, you know, a couple of months ago Obama was so low in the polls even the Kenyans were saying he was born in the United States,” Buchanan joked.
Pat Buchanan on Sean Hannity

+1000

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Ed Morrissey, we expect you to correct your erroneous headline ASAP, with your apology added to the post and an assurance that you’ll be more honest and careful in the future.

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:27 PM

It’s not your blog. If you’re not banned for throwing around demands like this, it just means Ed is patient.

tom on March 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

bluegill on March 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM

So he’s unelectable now? I don’t know any Tea Party person who are slobbering over any of them. Do you contend that Rmoney has no liberal record. Just want to make sure I understand the new you. Reprimands are hard.

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Gotta go. Answer up gilled one.

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Thanks, my disagreeable friend! Will do. have a great day!

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Fix it for you. Sleep well. : )

Bmore on March 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

haha Roger that!

Only “disagreeable” on primary candidates…

g2825m on March 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM

It doesn’t matter who gets out, a Romney win in the Deep South Bible Belt makes him unstoppable. You can argue the math all you want to, but you will have to overdose on wishful thinking to come up with any other scenario.

Santorum has to win both states, or his chances are sinking faster than Obama’s approval. A Gingrich win in either justifies Newt staying in and encourages those few Newt voters in states he can’t afford to campaign in to keep voting for him, denying Santorum the two-man race he needs to have any practical chance.

Those are the facts. That Santorum has admitted now that his best hope is a brokered convention is almost an admission of defeat. If he can’t win the Republican nod in two of the most heavily evangelical states in the union, he certainly wouldn’t be the choice of a deadlocked convention.

Adjoran on March 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Polls?……….this is the mother of all polls.

PappyD61 on March 13, 2012 at 1:26 PM

I love how the delusional keep trotting out the same 1980 outlier poll in a lame attempt to prove that their unelectable candidate really is electable because REAGAN.

Can anyone think of a major event late in 1979 that would have caused a temporary “rally around the flag” bump in the polls for the incumbent? Anyone?

If you need polls to tell you why Santorum is a loser in the general, you’ve not been paying attention.

Hollowpoint on March 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

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