PPP: Southern Super Tuesday toss-up
posted at 8:40 am on March 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
The critical primaries this week take place in Alabama and Mississippi tomorrow, and we can expect one last flurry of polling in both states as the pollsters make their last bets. PPP has decided not to bet at all. In its final surveys in the two contests, they predict a dead heat in both states:
Tuesday looks like it’s going to be a close election night in both Mississippi and Alabama. In Mississippi Newt Gingrich is holding on to a slight lead with 33% to 31% for Mitt Romney, 27% for Rick Santorum, and 7% for Ron Paul. And Alabama is even closer with Romney at 31% to 30% for Gingrich, 29% for Santorum, and 8% for Paul.
Gingrich and Santorum are both more popular than Romney in each of these states. In Mississippi Gingrich’s net favorability is +33 (62/29) to +32 for Santorum (60/28) and +10 for Romney (51/41). It’s a similar story in Alabama where Santorum’s at +32 (63/31), Gingrich is at +26 (58/32), and Romney’s at only +13 (53/40).
Unfortunately for Gingrich and Santorum, they’re both equally popular with “very conservative” voters. They split that vote almost equally, and that leaves room for Romney among the “somewhat conservative” and moderate likely voters polled in both states. PPP’s multi-day survey also measured momentum over the weekend, and that’s good news for Gingrich in Mississippi, but not in Alabama:
It’s not really clear who, if anyone, has the momentum in these states. In Mississippi folks who’ve decided in the last few days go for Gingrich over Santorum 37-29 with Romney at only 15%. But in Alabama the late deciders go 38-29 for Romney over Santorum with Gingrich at 23%.
Gingrich really needs to win both states to remain in the race, or split them with Santorum at worst case. If Romney wins in Alabama, he can claim to have won in every part of the country, while Gingrich can’t even claim to have won all of the Southern states that he feels is his natural base. Perhaps that’s why Gingrich’s team has started floating a trial balloon now of adding Rick Perry on as a running mate before a potentially brokered convention:
Sources close to the Gingrich campaign say preliminary “what-if” conversations are underway that could lead to a Gingrich-Perry ticket being announced prior to the Republican National Convention at the end of August.
Gingrich insiders hope forming a predetermined ticket with Perry will unite the evangelical, Tea Party and very conservative voters that make up the core of the GOP.
As discussions got underway, a spokesman for Texas Gov. Rick Perry released a statement saying, “Gov. Perry thinks Newt Gingrich is the strongest conservative to debate and defeat President Obama and truly overhaul Washington. The speculation is humbling but premature.”
Floating Perry as a running mate two days before Alabama and Mississippi could energize conservatives or turn them off.
A senior aide to Rick Santorum called it a desperate hail mary [sic] to create buzz ahead of contests in Alabama and Mississippi Tuesday.
That kind of trial balloon may have worked better before the weekend began, rather than as it ended, if Team Gingrich wanted to get a Southern boost tomorrow.
Update: There will be a lot of people in both states making up their minds as they go into the voting booth. In Alabama, only 73% had a strong commitment to a candidate, and in Mississippi only 75%.
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Texas will be the capital of Free America and will have the armoury of freedom!
ThePrez on April 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Well, enough lowlife big government lovin’ blue staters are moving here already. We might as well snag some of the good yankees.
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
What would a limey know about freedom?
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM
To quote Gandalf:
“Fly you fools!”
CT is beyond saving, I plan on escaping to Free America as soon as I can.
jnelchef on April 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Well, enough lowlife big government lovin’ blue staters are moving here already. We might as well snag some of the good yankees.
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
+++++++++++++++++++
Ain’t that the truth -
fabrexe on April 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Probably not Re-locating to Austin…
Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Typical right-wing bitter-clinging gun fanatics: Stealing jobs from those who need them! /
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM
I wonder if Obama will step in on this, the way ‘his people’ sued to stop Boeing from moving to a non-union state.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Yep, NLRB ruling coming up that no weapons manufacturers can leave their existing blue state sh*thole locales.
jukin3 on April 13, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Obama should be happy.
He did say..
“Lets make it harder to slaughter our children”
Connecticut should be rejoicing..
Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 5:48 PM
I don’t think the entitlement crowd needs jobs in good ole Connecticut do they? The libtards will just tax other businesses more to keep the freebies coming.
Watch out Texas. If you keep inviting libs to come on down, your state will become blue or purple just like the dung heaps they came from.
iamsaved on April 13, 2013 at 5:48 PM
The Democratic “Solution” is to so destroy the blue state economies that they export blue state voters to red states, where those voters will continue to vote for blue state policies now to be inflicted on the formerly red states. Especially with Common Core lying to the children (upcoming voters) about how evil red state policies are and how benevolent (and utterly good) large government can be if just enough fools, I mean voters, vote enough power to Big Brother.
jhnone on April 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
42 + (15 * 15) = 267
42 + (20 * 30) = 642
Average of the two is 455 jobs leaving CT.
rbj on April 13, 2013 at 5:54 PM
The trick will be getting the Blue State jobs and businesses while making sure the Blue State workers/voters stay sequestered in the crumbing Blue States. (Generous Blue State welfare benefits should help that, though.)
Last thing Texas need is to Californicated or Connecticutfied.
Bruno Strozek on April 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM
They would, except if the manufacturer moves to another state, CT loses all that tax revenue.
I have no doubt at all that CT Dems have next planned a new major tax on gun and ammo manufacturers.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM
Bugging out of Connecticut,and Saddling up in the Lone Star State,
me thinks,it sends a symbolic message,or not……to Gun Grabber
States!!
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM
We are two nations now.
southsideironworks on April 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM
i’m sure the left loves this…if all the gun manufacturers
re-locate then from a left point of view, that forms the targets for the next onslaught. For example, TX…fast forward 10 years and you have a blue state, anti-gun
the left has plenty of time to strategzse their plan…it is what they do.
r keller on April 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Set up shop in a new place and hire only locals. Those who needed to be taken during the move then get laid off. Send them back home to vote Democrat again in their old place. They would, anyway.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Perry, how about if you get us Constitution Carry before you go bragging about how great our gun rights are down here. We can’t even open carry with a permit.
TexasDan on April 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Now if we can get Colt to move. Step one would be to open a new [large] set of production lines somewhere in America. And as soon as they become operational, shift production. Colt is big enough that their Conn. vendor base will notice. As will the state Revenue Dept.
And yes, Obama’s NLRB will probably sue to try to stop the move. Worth the fight.
If I had my druthers, every state that has these restrictive gun laws should have gun companies refuse to sell to any government entity in those states. After all, if the civilians in the state are barred from the weapons, that kills most of the market in the state, and gun companies would not want to “take a chance that a weapon sold to a government entity would accidentally fall into the hands of a civilian”.
As the existing long term contracts for ammunition come due, ammunition companies should do the same.
Subotai Bahadur on April 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Well, I’m arguably from CT, but I made the move 21 years ago. We take our kids to the Alamo with boring regularity, and I’ve never been back to CT. Some of us make the transition pretty well–and I might point out that Davy Crockett wasn’t born here either, and Lyle Lovett said we could come.
My vote for the official swearing-in of new Texas citizens would be to repeat the “I will go to Texas” quote. Followed by touching off a few celebratory rounds skyward.
TexasDan on April 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM
What will CT do the next time a mass shooting occurs there? They have the ‘heralded’ strictest gun laws in the country, so what will happen, then?
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM
+1000
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM
It’s long past due that liberals be punished for their policies. Obamacare isn’t enough for them. Time for them to at long last PAY.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
*waves*
annoyinglittletwerp on April 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM
In the 1800′s to let neighbors or visitors know where they went, people would scrawl three letters on their door. GTT.
Gone To Texas.
vityas on April 13, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Nevah happen GI. California keeps doubling down rather than step back and consider other alternatives.
Watch some kind of exit tax be proposed by blue states in the future.
arnold ziffel on April 13, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Pretty soon the blue states will put a wall around their borders to prevent companies and smart minds leaving for the free states. Just like east Germany did.
The Notorious G.O.P on April 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM
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Seriously, I’d bet a good number of them try to relocate with the company.
I know I would.
listens2glenn on April 13, 2013 at 6:31 PM
Hey, let’s be fair, Hot Air. Look at today’s WSJ. The governor of Maine said the same thing.
Shifting gears, as I watch Obama using these CT parents, who surely warrant everyone’s sympathy, I still can’t help asking, “Where in the hell were the members of that CT community?” Yes, you can say that the shooter’s mother paid for her colossal stupidity. But what about her friends and neighbors? Nutmeggers are happy to invite governmental intrusion in their lives when, if they’d had the guts to ask this woman whether it was a good idea to have her son near guns or go to the authorities to force the same question, maybe none of this would have happened.
I just turned off Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter, playing on AMC. He had a great response to the half-a** sheriff who was trying to recruit him to protect the town (Lago). Eastwood’s character’s response? “It seems to me that the town’s problem is a short supply of guts.”
Well, to the neighbors and friends of the shooter’s mother who had any misgivings, how are the dead bodies of all those people sitting with you? Too bad you didn’t have the guts to stand up and say something. If I were a parent of one of those dead kids, I’d be browbeating them–not members of Congress.
BuckeyeSam on April 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM
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There needs to be a genuine ad campaign aimed specifically at these “blue-staters”, that lays down the law.
listens2glenn on April 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM
CT resident here who has had enough. We are moving to Kentucky due to a job offer and it cant come soon enough.
These new laws have already made a couple of hundred people unkonwn felons due to the way it was written. The Governor did not sign the bill untill after noon on 4 April and people were buying up guns and magazines they knew were going to be banned the morning before he signed it. The bill outlawed the sale or purchase of any of the banned items effective the day the Governor signed the law, so all of those purchases made that morning are illegal and will not be able to be registered with the State Police.
Johnnyreb on April 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Were that to happen, in droves, the liberals would rush through a punishing ‘exit tax’ on those people and the company. If I’m not mistaken, CA Democrats have one in the works.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Moving a manufacturing facility — building, even merely assembling, firearms is an equipment-heavy biz — is hard enough to contemplate. The business shouldn’t be able then, I would think, to relocate or help relocate any more than a few of its people.
Furthermore, relocating your family part and parcel even across town is a hefty endeavor, let alone interstate. Ask any veteran whose had to move his family from base to base every three or so years how disruptive, expensive and wrenching it can be.
…so, I don’t think that we’ll be swamped by Nutmeg Staters should PTR move this-a-way. The smart thing would be to up-sticks, move PTR, then hang out the shingle and see what the local labor market take to build their toys.
Furthermore, as PTR seems to produce an HK roller-block rifle (tarted-up G3 clones), I wonder if they’re makin’ ‘em or just emportin’ ‘em. Germany still makes ‘em and Spain’s been making CETME G3 licensed knock-offs for a coon’s age. Could they be getting the base rifles in and just adding doo-dads? If so, it’d be a matter of just moving their stocks, some desks and cabinets, and a drill press or two.
…and therein is the point: the two-nation divide.
PTR is producing something that apparently the average dude in Conn. has no use for, demographically speaking. Sure, out-of-town/out-of-burbs yankees are like ex-urban folks almost anywhere. They hunt and fish, and many like a good, well-maintained modern semi-auto rifle as much as any out-of-towner in Texas would.
It’s just that, in many blue states (and I was stationed in New England for nine years, and travelled through Hartford, etc. more times that I’d care to count) the circle which delineates urban-minded — a radius starting from downtown somewhere out to a point which is unquestionably “out of town”) is larger in blue states…and those urban circles, wherein one might be sure to find urban attitudes, often overlap, as the towns behave like cities, and cities are close together.
(…well, closer together than they are here in Texas, anyway….)
What I’m saying is that outside the urban circle, folks might enjoy a gander inside your gunsafe. Inside that circle, folks might just be appalled, think you somehow dangerous, and the smell of BreakFree and Hoppe’s might give them chills.
…they’ve just got to learn, these blue-staters…guns aren’t slimy…merely cool and smooth to the touch….
Puritan1648 on April 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Hmmmm…………
Bette Midler @BetteMidler 5h
Apparently the NRA is planning a strategy for the gun control debates. I think it’s going to be: “Do what we say or we’ll kill you?”
https://twitter.com/BetteMidler
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM
These states like Tejas are “poaching” jobs from those states in economic distress.
Should that be legal (NLRB anyone)??
PappyD61 on April 13, 2013 at 6:51 PM
MeanWhile,back at Gun Grabbers Ranch:
US Senate considers gun control laws
@kasie tweeted:
kasie
Three (3) GOP senators so far say they’ll support Toomey/Manchin and vote to expand background checks. Toomey, Kirk, now Collins #guns
2 hours ago from twitter.com by editor
==========================================
Sen. Susan Collins is 1st GOP senator to say she will vote for bipartisan compromise on expanded background checks – @NBCNews reports
2 hours ago from nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com by editor
======================================================
http://politics.breakingnews.com/
http://politics.breakingnews.com/topic/us-senate-considers-gun-control-laws
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Sounds more like something Bloomberg would say, if he could.
Realistically — who listens to Bette Midler?
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Gun manufacturers and their workers are OUR kind of people down here in Texas.
michaelo on April 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Actually, Lanza’s mother was trying to get him committed…but, thanks to the ACLU’s wonderful work, the Conn. laws on involuntary commitment had become so restrictive (and in favor of the crazies) that she was frustrated in all of her attempts.
Solaratov on April 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Joke ‘em if they can’t take a fvck.
Since they can’t grasp “shall not be infringed”, “I will not comply” will go right over their heads.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM
MeanWhile,back at White House,Will use’m and abuse’m for our
own Political Goals….sumpin..sumpin…
School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut
Video: Newtown mom Francine Wheeler delivers the White House Weekly Address – via @whitehouse
8 hours ago from http://www.youtube.com by editor
==============================================
http://politics.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGJjnoQ4M/2013/04/13/video-newtown-mom-francine-wheeler-delivers-the-white-house-weekly-ad
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 6:59 PM
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Joke ‘em if they can’t take a fvck.
Since they can’t grasp “shall not be infringed”, “I will not comply” will go right over their heads.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Liam:
The RINO Herd,is Get Along/Go Along,and are getting swept up
in all zee EMOTION,I’m thinking!:)
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM
There were also those ‘widows’ of 9/11 who were basically pro-Islamist. Add in Cindy Sheehan.
Not much more to be said.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM
Results for #guncontrol
Tweets Top / All
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM
…this isn’t a small problem.
Ever since I was a small boy in California, I remember folks in Oregon and Washington complaining about Californians moving up there, demanding that things change to accomodate them in the manner in which they were accustomed back in the state they left. So, the taxes would drive ‘em out of CA, and they’d promptly move north and raise the taxes up there…and never see what was happening, or recognize the irony of it all.
I used to correspond with a guy in NW Arkansas who used to complain to me, as a native Californian (I was living in Texas at the time, and will ’til I croak), that Californians were flooding into his area. Californians found that land in AR was cheap. They’d sell their houses back in CA a the inflated prices things sell for there and move almost in blocks to NW Arkansas. U of Ark is up there in Fayetteville, so there’s some of the “culture” some of ‘em crave. They’d immediately organize and begin to agitate for urban amenities out there in the sticks…which makes one wonder what the attraction of rural Arkansas was in the first place…blank canvas?
…so, blue staters moving to and screwing up red states is nothing new.
Example closer to home (and this thread): when the dot.com boom started, and when Dell was a powerhouse, folks from all over blue-syl-vania began to trek to north Austin. Never a very stable place mentally, Austin (and outlying bergs) gave themselves over entirely not only to home-building and the consequent traffic snarls, but to a “blue-state-state-of-mind”…so that Travis County sitting like a foul blue hole in the heart of a red-red state…sort of like a tumor.
…two Americas….
Puritan1648 on April 13, 2013 at 7:04 PM
That’s their problem.
“I will not comply” is also their problem. And a bigger one for them.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:05 PM
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Sounds more like something Bloomberg would say, if he could.
Realistically — who listens to Bette Midler?
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Liam:I caught it off the GunControl Twitter link,(posted above),its legit,
I dunno,celebritys will say the d*mned things!
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:07 PM
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM
That’s their problem.
“I will not comply” is also their problem. And a bigger one for them.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:05 PM
Liam:Yup,and there ultimate demise will be the Ballot Box Baby!:)
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:08 PM
I never could get hold of the notion of listening to someone who makes a career of being someone else.
Also, any celeb who steps ‘out of character’ is perfectly welcome to come here — armed bodyguards and all — to try in person to relieve me of my guns.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM
Sad, but true. I hate Austin. It’s become a hellhole that I wish would just sink into the limestone pits.
avagreen on April 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM
…but, just like “secure the border/THEN talk immigration status”, she might’ve considered “secure the firearms/THEN get the kid committed”. Seems he took ‘em from an unlocked cabinet, no?
I say this as about a rock-ribbed gun-rights supporter as it is possible to be. Got kids in the house, got lots of traffic through the house, got a p*ssed-off wife/mother-in-law/mistress in the house, got issues of your own bouncing ’round in your skull, LOCK UP THE GUNS.
…and sure…educate the kids about gun safety…don’t p*ss off the ladies…keep the freeloading friends confined to the room with the TV in it…and get help yourself if the SIG226 starts whispering to ya….
…but, basic survival strategy, right up there with “don’t slap your lady and then take a nap on the couch” is “don’t have loaded firearms in easy reach of a psycho”….
…THEN fight the pencil-necked pencil-pushers to get some help wrangling junior’s demons back into his brain-housing-group….
Puritan1648 on April 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM
The Ballot Box isn’t a factor when it comes to how I defend me and mine. For liberal Hollywoodies, I prefer the Ticket Office. Don’t go to their films, don’t buy their DVDs new. Buy used, which is always at a cut-rate price. And they don’t make a dime off you.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Bite the hand that feeds you all over again.
Connecticut has long been the home of some of the most iconic and successful firearms manufacturers in the nation. So, typical behavior of liberals, they want to tax and regulate their success out of existence.
Once again the politicians vote to take care of the Takers at the expense of the Makers.
WestTexasBirdDog on April 13, 2013 at 7:21 PM
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I know. : (
listens2glenn on April 13, 2013 at 7:29 PM
It would be great if we could somehow calculate the payroll dollars which will be lost by this move. We don’t know if all 42 PTR employees are full-time. Same for the vendor employees. And it’s possible that the vendors are not 100% dependent upon PTR.
Courtesy of the NSSF, $47,280 average wage might be a good working number. http://nssf.org/impact/
That’s not far off the numbers cited here:
http://articles.courant.com/2013-03-22/business/hc-connecticut-manufacturing-workers-worse-off-tha-20130322_1_durable-goods-production-workers-fewer-workers
Forty-two full-time employees at $47,280 is almost $2 million.
For the vendors, let’s be conservative. Figure just 15 vendors with 15 full-time employees each…but figure that each vendor is only 50% dependent on PTR.
That’s (15 x 15)/2 x $47,280, or $5,319,000.
Incidentally, here’s another paragraph from the Courant article linked above:
1,700 jobs at $999.69 per week…you do the math.
And this headline from April, 2011 is linked on the same page:
Marlin Firearms Closes In North Haven, Ending 141 Years Of Manufacturing In Connecticut
I’m sure that many members of the Connecticut legislature simply can’t understand why the state is bleeding manufacturing jobs. Sad.
Owen Glendower on April 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM
…I used to commute 40-50 miles to work in Austin. That’s where the contracts were that I could do. I appreciated to commute. I meant that there was distance between my reality and my job.
…anyway, about a decade or so ago, the progressive wing of the Peoples Republic of Travis County were waging a campaign to get “light rail” put into downtown. As planned, it would’ve taken away lanes in downtown areas already congested, and would’ve served very limited areas…mostly techy and state employee types living at one of the line, the other end downtown where most of ‘em worked. Mind you, Austin had a pretty good bus system…which was very, very lightly used, serving the same routes. But, buses are just big cars, I guess the thinking goes, and they don’t like cars in Austin. Texas loves pickup trucks (own one myself), but Austin hates cars. I’ve been in/driven in Boston and in Austin, and Austin is by far the more automobile-phobic place I’ve ever been to.
During the campaign, one opponent of the bill dismissed light rail in Austin — limited routes, high cost, displacing other traffic — as little more than “urban jewelry”. I’ve always liked that line.
Anyway, as the election drew near (I want to say that it was in 2000), there were ads, endorsements, all sorts of pressure put on the electorate to approve the light rail bill. Lots of money was collected by hook and by crook, and the blitz was on.
The bill lost.
It was then that I was shaken from my doledrums about “progressives”. I’d always dismissed them as impractical cranks, wimps, self-fascinated navel-gazers and pouting children when anyone dares to speak when they’re speaking. This campaign proved that, at least in Austin, “progressives” bear watching.
You see, the very day after the election, they stood up “Light-Rail Campaign V. 2.0″…with money left over from the last blitz. Lesson learned: they’re seldom right, fight among themselves like kindergartners over fine points of ideology, and wouldn’t know the “mainstream” if their BMWs were submerged in it…but lefties are patient, lefties are relentless. Regardless of the will of the citizenry, expressed at the polls, the agenda is everything. Lefties, they feel, know best, and a little more “reeducation” a’ la post-war Vietnam or Cambodia under Pol Pot, and by the next election the voters “will get it right”.
SO…let ‘em bring their factories to Texas…just don’t let ‘em vote until they’ve been here 7 years…like other immigrants I can name….
Puritan1648 on April 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM
CT is a whole lot more rural than you think. I used to throw my .22 in the trunk, drive 5 minutes from my house, park by the road, walk into the woods and plink for hours. You could, and we did, do this virtually anywhere in my town, in the mid-80′s.
Foxwoods casino may have changed all that by now. Like I said, I haven’t been back. Ever.
TexasDan on April 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM
O/T but speaking of Texas. Did anyone else see the planes flying in formation as the National Anthem was sung at the NRA 500 race a little while ago? With the Obama administration canceling all flyovers this looked like a “screw you” Obama. The planes looked like a group of “warbirds” got together and decided to do their own flyover. I’m sure FAA had to approve but I loved it! Had to be 20 planes with red, white and blue smoke coming out the tails.
traditionalgal on April 13, 2013 at 7:48 PM
Great idea! Let’s write Rick. *evil grin*
They’ve also ruined Dallas.
avagreen on April 13, 2013 at 7:50 PM
Sounds beautiful. Gotta luv Texans!
Gitum!
avagreen on April 13, 2013 at 7:52 PM
You and me both! I’m finding fewer and fewer things on TV to watch, so they don’t get a click from me on the DishNetwork, don’t buy DVD’s anymore, don’t rent their movies on Dish. I’ve absolutely removed many channels on my menu. Occasionally, write sponsors. I’ve began tuning in the Rural Network all day whether or not I’m watching it…..and record things off it…….just to register with Dish what I’m watching, recording.
avagreen on April 13, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Sound advice all. Saw all that happen in southern Delaware, the interlopers move in, land was cheap, then they wanted it just like they had it in Baltimore, NY, NJ, and Philly. It worked for a while, but then the locals got tired and did what they have always done, guerrilla warfare. They started to make it very uncomfortable for someone not from there, they just basically resisted any more change, the newbies either assimilated or they moved because it got too ugly. Calling the local derogatory names at every turn really didn’t help either, because they didn’t care. That is why the Biden’s lived up in the norther half as do most of the political class. Gosnell is fortunate he is where he is, there is an element in southern Delaware that wouldn’t have let him make it to trial. When you see M2s in the front lawns of peoples houses, you may want to announce your presence from a ways off;) True story btw on the M2 in the front yard, rough clan I come from.
MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 7:07 PM
I never could get hold of the notion of listening to someone who makes a career of being someone else.
Also, any celeb who steps ‘out of character’ is perfectly welcome to come here — armed bodyguards and all — to try in person to relieve me of my guns.
Liam on April 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM
Liam:Good points!:)
canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 8:12 PM
Bring on the factories, assembly buildings, millers and stampers. We’ll add them to our wonderful Texas gun gardens. Water, soil, and sun produce a bumper crop of iron down here. I’m growing a couple of nice Mossbergs out back right now.
Limerick on April 13, 2013 at 8:16 PM
All conservative states need to be extremely careful. Colorado was a test case. We were targeted; I am convince that the Repub nomination was an inside plant somehow to destroy our governor run which should have been a shoe in. Anyway, lots of money targeted here, fishy elections and now we are where we are. Start putting up the barriers to out of state money,, tighten up the election laws and pay attention to what nominees say and do as well as where they are from. We need to fight the battle from day one, not leap into the fray when it is “over”. I know, that is not how we want to “govern” or play but we need to out “Alinsky” these rat eared commies or we will all be yelling” Wolverines” in the forests.
retiredeagle on April 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM
YEP!
KOOLAID2 on April 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM
Boycott Connecticut, Colorado, NY, NJ, etc.
It’s high time we need to know which goods come from which state so we can boycott them.
jdun on April 13, 2013 at 8:42 PM
No shinola there.
Three story walk up apartments, row houses, and I saw a sign for a bodega the other day. What the heck. The slang word for convenience store down here is 7-Eleven for cryin’ out loud.
Does that mean the post man brought you something special?
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM
One of the great ironies of the whole gun thang is how all the good gun companies are based in hardcore blue state yankee bastions: CT, MA, NY, MD, etc…
Can Southerners even make quality firearms in large quantities? And if so, how come they don’t already? The southern labor force seems more qualified for manufacturing AK-tier armaments than precision, extreme low tolerances machined Western-style hardware, if you know what I mean.
Its like how the Japanese and Europeans are okay with Southerners building their junky “designed for Merka” sedans and suvs, but they leave the more technologically and quality demanding high-end models to be produced overseas and shipped to the US instead.
Daikokuco on April 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Most of your post was progtard nonsense. Those buffoons love them some regulations about limiting campaigning. (Since such regulations invariably harm R constituents while helping Ds)
However the bolded part is absolutely correct. If some would be poliscum isn’t even FROM CO, then they are completely and utterly unqualified to represent anything pertaining to CO, no matter how much you are otherwise in agreement with them. Less than 40% of people in CO are even FROM CO. Coloradans in general need to be (even more) openly hostile to transplants. I have seen some (all too few) of the dirtbag parasites complaining about how they are treated, but Colorado should be known far and wide, from California to the Midwest, to the East Coast to the South, as a place hostile to transplants. Of course, exceptions for neighbor states – all of whom have less people than CO and are suffering a similar dynamic, although way more slowly.
Daikokuco on April 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM
This just shows the mistakes these legislators make when they pass laws based on poll numbers and not reason. I’m not sure that any of these control laws will do anything to prevent indiscriminate mass shootings and it is not just one gun company in Connecticut that is saying they are leaving. Here is a very short, partial and incomplete list. They are located throughout the states and there are a lot of them. We are the largest Gun and Gun parts manufactures in the World. Don’t let the government lie to you yet again. This is not just a few jobs from some small companies. There are 10′s thousand of jobs at stake her in a multi $Billion dollar industry. Rick Perry is on to something here.
Maryland
Beretta
Connecticut
Charter Arms
PTR
Colorado
Magput
HiViz
Oregon
Colt Completion
jpcpt03 on April 13, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Huh?
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Wow.
TexasDan on April 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM
The only real upside to your comment is that you think the Japanese and Europeans rule the world, not the Jews. I guess. So, congratulations, you’ve bought completely into every Southern stereotype ever presented, but at least you’re not anti-Semitic, maybe.
TexasDan on April 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Meh, just another stupid bigoted yankee.
Jealous that the south has risen again. And taking their jobs away from them. For greener pastures with workers who actually know the meaning of work and pride in a job done well.
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 10:43 PM
From 1836 to 1846 Texas was an independent Nation including the current Texas and parts of Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico. On 13 November 2012 a petition to make The Republic of Texas an Independent Nation with sufficient signatures for action was presented to the White House. If the Gun Industries do relocate to Texas, with the oil and weapons manufacturing they could become one of the richest new nations in the world. No Joke here.
jpcpt03 on April 13, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Sure, Texas clearly has its limits and faults so does the rest of the south.
Your comment on quality German cars had me laughing. You sound like a snob and pretty uninformed at the same time. Snobs usually have some sense of their subject since it helps them keep their delusions intact. This is not true in your case.
Where do I start?
On cars?
Check J. D. Powers.
Check the Cadillac, yes Cadillac, CTS-V against anything Mercedes builds.
Go to Germany and talk to Germans. They make S class parts in Korea. Maybach is dead.
German interests, (really owned by Arabs) had to buy Rolls and Bentley since they lack the artistic ability and sense of style to rival the Brits. They got killed messing with other investments.
And on plant locations, a curious part of enterprise is the ossified nature of business activities.
Guns have been unwelcome in blue states for decades. You can bet that they had economic gimmies in blue states for their manufacturing jobs and long term relationships with banks and other support firms. Now they will likely get gifts for moving away.
To make insinuations about dumb Americans not able to do a job is a rotten remark. The media loves to nourish that incorrect idea, every chance they get. Stupid people buy it.
I’d hate to hear what you think of minorities.
IlikedAUH2O on April 13, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Google or Bing Mercedes lemons or problems. Or do any German car.
With a top Mercedes you get a soulless staff car with insane upkeep. Sls were so bad for a while they thought of discontinuing the line.
Italian wheels are far superior in most areas if you really want performance and style and can pay for it.
A recent car magazine hoped that VW was getting its act together so people could say VW was a reliable as a Honda.
IlikedAUH2O on April 13, 2013 at 10:56 PM
You’re an idiot.
Solaratov on April 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Diecukoo is just doin’ what trolls do.
Bein’ an idiot.
Nothing new.
Solaratov on April 13, 2013 at 11:09 PM
I was hoping the nutball would expound.
Just another drive by idiot.
cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Yankees who want to do business are welcome in the Lone Star State…Conservative Yankees that is.
workingclass artist on April 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM
KOOLAID2 on April 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Daily Kos Kuckoo. Click the ignore button beside his handle.
slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2013 at 11:44 PM
Hard core bigot. The reasonable intelligent liberal mind? I’m laughing.
I’ve been all across this country. Some of the most intelligent, hard-working and honorable people I’ve ever been around are in The South. You laugh as all of these 100 year old firms leave your imaginary utopias and then watch your states fail one by one.
And what are you so proud of up there now anyway? Is Detroit one of your model cities? Or Chicago? Cleveland or Indianapolis? I had the misfortune of working in New York for six months last year and that state in particular was the biggest accumulation of backwards liberal incompetents I’ve ever met.
Talking to a waitress at a roadside mom and pop place we’d eat breakfast at after flying NVGs. “Ma’am, has anyone ever told you, you look like …” “I know, I know, Sarah Palin.” We all laugh with her because she does. Wears her hair like her and has glasses like hers. “But I hope no one ever thinks I’m like that b1tch.” Suddenly not funny. I ask, “I take it you don’t like her politics?” “I don’t like her. People like her will get black people put back on plantations and take away your basic rights.” Okay crazy lady, just sling the hash and close your trap.
The worst business people I’ve ever dealt with. The craziest rules imposed by unions. Try pumping your own gas in Jersey or Connecticut. When you’re in Connecticut, pick up a helicopter at the Sikorsky Plant and deal with their stupid freaking union rules. “Sorry Mr. (Hawkdriver) you need to have a scaffolding around the aircraft to preflight.” “But then I can’t open up the engine deck.” “We’ll move it when you get up there.” “How about if I just preflight without it like I always do.” Then you get asked to step away from the aircraft for a half hour until a shop rep comes by.
So, please, get off your bigoted high horse. One, I’m tired of being the rich old white guys one week and then the stupid hicks the next. And the bottom line truth is you people in the north are no better than your average southerner when it comes to intelligence and ingenuity. Try squaring off with the average people you’d meet in Huntsville, AL and I think you’ll find yourself a little lacking in the ability to keep up with their conversation. There’re still one of the largest communities of PHDs in the country. Look at the Research Triangle in NC.
Compound that with the fact you in particular get your lunch money taken away by nearly everyone who comments on Hot Air you inadvisably decide to trade comments with and you’ll discover you’re probably the “last” person that needs to be questioning the IQ of anyone.
hawkdriver on April 14, 2013 at 12:19 AM
Blahblahblah. You fixate on Mercedes. Laughable. This is the same dumb company that sells and sold most of their cars in sub-Saharan Africa and the Middleast (300D, anyone) and thought buying CHRYSLER was a wise decision. Guess how that turned out. Now your pathetic Italians are throwing money into the same pit of American sub-mediocrity. And the result will be the same. Cadillacs are garbage, yes, your precious CTS-V included. Try reading something besides the bought and paid for fellating articles in Motortrend and Autoweek. CTSs are junk and the resale reflects that reality, compared to 3-series, A4s, etc.
Speaking of which, why don’t you try to explain why the Germans and Japanese build their North American market JUNK: Accords, Camrys, various POS SUVs, and such in North America, while they build/built their S2000s, GTRs, Lexuses, Acura sedans, and ALL upscale German cars overseas. The whole benefit of local assembly would still apply, that IS why they make their crappy “cars for Merkins” in Merka, afterall. Except that Merkins, especially Southerners (who at least aren’t beholden to the UAW-yet, like your precious Cadillac, you Government Motors loving buffoon) aren’t skilled enough to make the top tier cars. This isn’t conjecture. This is automotive business FACT. You think Nissan wouldn’t like to save a boatload by making GTRs and 370Zs in some crappy backwards Southern backwater? They would. Too bad the illiterate local talent can’t meet the standards they require. So they make Sentras and Altimas instead. Aka junk.
Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 12:28 AM
German cars aren’t terrible, they just aren’t built by supermen.
I bought a 2013 Jetta for an old friend and veteran who was having kidney failure and his car wasn’t reliable. He could have gotten rides but mostly, I just got sick of hearing him gripe about his old car. He likes German stuff and the Jetta is nice looking.
It drives well, I’m told.
The Mini is cool but is it German?
I have been in the newer SLs and they seem fine.
Everyone who drives European isn’t a connoisseur.
Linsey Lohan had a nice, beautiful white AMG SL a few years back. I heard she looked good in it.
Been nicer if she hadn’t hit a few things while on coke.
Now I heard that she is down market to a regular 550 SL in black.
I wonder if she shares your opinions….
IlikedAUH2O on April 14, 2013 at 12:31 AM
Daikokuco aka ignorant bigoted idiot.
cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 12:35 AM
That is one rambling tirade against somebody you haven’t even pinned down in the slightest. For one, I’m no fan of the “North”. But at least they aren’t the South. It’s kind of a Nazi vs Soviet paradigm in which I look at you both with fascinated loathing.
If the South is so full of “hard working” and “honorable” people, why does it exploit welfare systems WAY WAY more than any other region. Explain that, you lying sack of turds. Why has the TVA avoided privatization until now? Why did NASA have to build a bunch of welfare research facilities in the South and import a bunch of yankees to work at them? Why does Sikorsky not build in Mississippi or Louisiana in the first place? Think long and hard about that.
And yeah, Cleveland and Indianapolis and Chicago and Detroit suck. I mean, when you have model cities like New Orleans, Memphis, Birmingham, or Biloxi, every city seems lousy in comparison, amirite?
Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 12:36 AM
Not even close idiot.
cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 12:38 AM
German cars aren’t of a homogenous quality. And I never suggested that the people building them were “supermen”. Only that when you are making a $50,000/$75,000/$100,000/$300,000 car, you sure as hell aren’t going to entrust a bunch of hardly literate Southern Merkins to build it. You got a problem with that, ask every single German car company why they don’t build their upscale models in the US.
The Jetta is one of the crappy models, built in the US. VWs are low tier German cars, and are well known to have quality control issues. For at least a decade now. Surprise surprise. But yeah, it looks fresh. In contrast, Audis are built in Europe. And have pretty astronomical quality ratings. Again, surprise, surprise. And they are significantly more complex and advanced than VWs.
No, its not cool. It’s a car the size of a Civic (or bigger) trying to claim that its tiny. Except it isn’t. Still, a good way to milk dumb Merkin consumers who buy blindly.
Did you miss the part where I blatantly insulted Mercedes, thus implying that I have literally zero investment in them as a brand?
Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 12:46 AM
The only real racism in this country is the idea that Turks and God know what ethnic group in the Black Forest can make cars better than blacks and whites in Detroit. Not true.
So, the Benz and other stuff you idolize can’t run with a Cadillac so you talk resale. Well done Sherlock! So big engines depreciate fast with gas at $4 a gallon and environmental morons getting preachy. It is also a truism that US cars are also under constant attack here in the same way that everything American just sickens some slobs.
Moreover, I know what BMW has been doing lately. The lose money at about the same rate as anything else. Their service intervals are one thing if they pay and about four times as expensive if they are running the show for a poor schmuck owner. And their engineering? Start/stop engines to save fuel. Genius.
A guy was sitting in front of Harris Teeter food store last night. Waiting for a ride. A BMW owner. He changed his battery then found he had to have the dealer reprogram the computer.
You know auto quality and talk without sources. Very impressive. 12?
Now, on your fool’s list. Putting the the S2000 first is interesting. Most find it a sexy car. Just shouts gay. They don’t make it in the US. They don’t make it anywhere. It is discontinued. It was a loss leader. A con. Nice choice.
The Lexus is a great car line for a person with no taste who is trying to look respectable. Novocaine to drive.
The GTR is another development toy with styling by the POWER RANGER’S drafting staff for whiz bang kids who would buy grocery carts if they were from Japan. It is top heavy, lacks style and works due to infinite computer and detail fussing. The concept is dull. Where they build the bland thing says nothing.
Acura? I would be amused but ugly boxes with a Star Trek symbol do not make me laugh.
As for the assembly point of highline German cars, they have been in production for some time and are so absorbed with their own problems that your comment is meaningless.
See a shrink to understand your irrational contempt for your own nation. Deep mental problem showing…
IlikedAUH2O on April 14, 2013 at 1:01 AM
I spoke of Mercedes at length since I have friends who read my stuff and are interested in Mercedes. Also, some people think BMW is “downmarket” in the German pecking order and VW/Audi below that.
You know, the people who look at things like prices and sales.
IlikedAUH2O on April 14, 2013 at 1:06 AM
BMW styling is an oxymoron.
IlikedAUH2O on April 14, 2013 at 1:07 AM
Lol. You clearly don’t know the first thing about cars or the automotive industry.
Because Benz and BMW and Audi don’t use as big of engines that get as poor as mileage as your POS Guvmotors Cadillac. Oh wait, they do.
Your comments on Lexus couldnt BE stupider. The only reason you would buy a Euro car over one is BECAUSE you are fixated on trying to look respectable. And because you lack taste. ESPECIALLY if you are buying a Mercedes. You’ve just summarized the Mercedes buyer perfectly. Still not as nouveau riche trash as the Cadillac buyer, though.
And lol again. I’m sure you know all about the GTR and its short comings. You probably drive one all the time. Or, you did. Until you realized how “top heavy” it was. LOL. Btw the concept is “unparalleled performance”. Something they achieved, by the way. Considering how it owns the crap out of the Italian exotics you were praising in an earlier post. For a quarter the price. Sure, its ugly. But it can afford to be when it delivers results like that.
What’s next… oh your hatred of Acura styling. Coming from a guy who extolls Cadillac. That right therr is funny, I dun’t care who you are.
And finally… “my nation” doesn’t include a bunch of slackjawed idiots in the South. Or the North for that matter. I couldn’t care less about what a global mockery you guys are, and will never move to defend your reputation. (Protip, the South is reviled at home and abroad. I don’t have a problem with that.)
Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 1:35 AM
“Some people” aka “your friends” don’t know jack shiz about cars. You know considering that Mercedes is the company that relies on selling trucks and POS sedans to sub Saharan Africa for its business model. While BMW and VAG uh, …don’t.
Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 1:37 AM
If I remember the rankings Arizona was number 1 for gun rights. Open and concealed carry w/o a permit. Move on over and join us.
chemman on April 14, 2013 at 1:52 AM
It is much easier for a small company to move its operations and headquarters than a large company. So they will be the first to move. They can do it much quicker. But over time large companies will almost certainly follow.
Major industrial sector changes take place over many years, sometimes many decades. Sometimes it even takes a couple of generations. See the history of the auto industry in Detroit and Michigan for an example. When the changes take that long to manifest themselves the scumbag opportunistic politicians who drove them are long gone by the time the effects are noticeable. That is, without the media obsessing over them. Such pandering politicians are among the lowest forms of human life.
“Perhaps Connecticut just doesn’t really care about keeping the gun industry around” — that’s an affirmative. What firearms industry corporate CEO wouldn’t at least begin a feasibility study and start planning a departure? It would be irresponsible to not do so.
farsighted on April 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM
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