Krauthammer: Obama is right, McCain is wrong on Syria

posted at 6:55 pm on March 10, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Hawkish U.S. Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman have called for direct U.S. military involvement in Syria, but countervailing voices say: Cool it.

Charles Krauthammer’s is one of those voices.

“I think Obama is right on this and McCain is wrong,” Krauthammer said. “I think this is not Libya. Libya is an oil well with a long beach and a primitive army. Syria has a serious air force, a serious army, and this would be a serious war.”

Krauthammer proposed reviving “the Reagan Doctrine,” a covert strategy of supporting insurgencies. Krauthammer first coined the term in 1985.

“I think what we should adopt is the Reagan Doctrine, the way he combated the expansion of Soviet influence in Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Angola. You support the insurgency. You don’t put Americans on the ground or in the air,” he said. “And why we aren’t arming and training and helping the insurgents in Turkey, you know, the ones who defected into Turkey out of Syria, I do not understand.”

Krauthammer is right — and not the only bright mind — to point to the Reagan Doctrine, but he misses an important point: The president’s actions in Libya — successful though they might have been — established a precedent of some kind of military intervention even when the United States doesn’t have a compelling national security interest in a conflict. In a press release, Sen. Jim Webb observed that problem with the Libyan model and, like Krauthammer, urged restraint when it comes to Syria:

“When people are talking about the need for leadership, we need to have a little sense of history. Leadership is not always taking precipitant action when the emotions are going. It is in achieving results that will bring about long-term objectives,” said Senator Webb, who served as Assistant Secretary of Defense and as Secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration. “Probably the greatest strategic victory in our lifetime was the Cold War. That was a conscious, decades-long, application of strategy with the right signals with respect to our national security apparatus.”

Senator Webb reiterated his concerns about the precedent set by the President’s unilateral decision to use force in Libya, where historical definitions of national security interest were not clearly met. “I have a great deal of concern when you look at the Libya model where the basic justification has been humanitarian assistance, which is very vague and is not under the historical precepts that we have otherwise used,” said Senator Webb.

Right now, the calmer voices have Obama’s ear — but will that continue to be the case as the crisis heats up? We’ll see. Syrian army attacks continue in the northwest city of Idlib and U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan is in Syria to ask for the cessation of all violence from President Bashar al-Assad. You can guess what Assad’s reply was.


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Kraut is right. We have no stake in Syria, and we have no need to overthrow secular govts to let the crazy ones take power. McCain is seriously a war addict or something.

Southernblogger on March 10, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Backing one Arab chieftain against another is pointless if it doesn’t serve the national intrest. They are not going to be kind and democratic folks any time soon. We will just change the identity of the victims.

sharrukin on March 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Assad is evil-but so are the islamists that are trying to over-throw him.
The US needs to stay out of Syria and let the two-sides of a very vile coin destroy each other.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Syriasly?

The Nerve on March 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

As phenomenally pitiful as Obama’s been on the foreign policy front, I can’t help but wonder what madness we’d be involved in if John McCain became President.

Hostile Gospel on March 10, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Krauthammer wants Obama to adopt the Reagan Doctrine?

Oil and water don’t mix.

fogw on March 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Syria-sly?

profitsbeard on March 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Here we go

RedSoxNation on March 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM

The US needs to stay out of Syria and let the two-sides of a very vile coin destroy each other.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Amen

Roy Rogers on March 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM

I heard an outtake of McCain’s remarks on the radio on the way home, and I think that McCain has outlived his shelf life. He is nuts, hardly thinking of the consequences of his hawkish stance both in re to Syria and formerly to Libya.

onlineanalyst on March 10, 2012 at 7:09 PM

The president’s actions in Libya — successful though they might have been

Errr..successful at what? Installing the Muslim Brotherhood and the ensuing chaos?

whatcat on March 10, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Killing others is a key tennent of the Muslim religion. Far better that it be other Muslims than Christians and Jewa.

bw222 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Obama was wrong on Egypt & Libya. He actually might be right on Syria.

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Obama was wrong on Egypt & Libya. He actually might be right on Syria.

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

What is there to be gained in an intervention?

sharrukin on March 10, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Is the Arab League onside? That will be the decider. Whatever the Saudis wish is the wests command.

BL@KBIRD on March 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Obama was wrong on Egypt & Libya. He actually might be right on Syria.

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Even a broken clock yadda yadda yadda…

squint on March 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

And Romney continues to be an Obamacare-loving Democrat. Dump Mitt NOW before it’s too late!

Pragmatic on March 10, 2012 at 7:17 PM

“Finish the danged insurgency!” says Mr. McCoin.

BL@KBIRD on March 10, 2012 at 7:17 PM

squint on March 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM

He’s pretty much wrong about everything else too…

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Everything takes a backseat to Obama’s campaigning and re-election strategy.

My suspicion is that the Administration’s focus in that region is (1) preparing for war with Iran — after (2) an Israeli first strike — trying to time it right before the election, hoping this galvanizes enough support to ensure another victory.

[I hope neither of those events occur before the election ...]

ShainS on March 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Obama is a Sunni moslem.

Simple.

Key West Reader on March 10, 2012 at 7:20 PM

He’s pretty much wrong about everything else too…

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM

He’s one busted up clock.

squint on March 10, 2012 at 7:22 PM

McCain is seriously a war addict or something.

Southernblogger on March 10, 2012 at 7:01 PM

No shit.

letoile du nord on March 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Chuckie may be right! McCain is senile and Lindsey is a girl!
JugEars f’d up in Egypt and Libya…so, give him a chance to screw up Syria some how. He’ll send Hillary or Pelosi maybe, to wile ASSad with their “charms”…they look good in scarfs.

KOOLAID2 on March 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM

McCain is senile and Lindsey is a girl!

KOOLAID2 on March 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM

That certainly would explain a great many things.

squint on March 10, 2012 at 7:26 PM

The president’s actions in Libya — successful though they might have been — established a precedent of some kind of military intervention even when the United States doesn’t have a compelling national security interest in a conflict.

THIS is the bottom line. Don’t come on the television and lecture me about “the moral imperative” to intervene in a potential “human rights disaster” in Libya and then turn a blind eye on the next — and far worse — one. If Libya had a “moral imperative,” then the moral imperative for intervention in Syria came and went several months ago. So what’s the real reason our bumbler-in-chief is doing all of this?

Rational Thought on March 10, 2012 at 7:27 PM

The Kenyan Marxist has given us Islamist fundamentalists in Egypt and Libya but the libs cry *gutsy call!* about Osama and praise his foreign policy. What a *bad word* joke!

DHChron on March 10, 2012 at 7:28 PM

too many chemical weapons

tomas on March 10, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Obama was wrong on Egypt & Libya. He actually might be right on Syria.

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Exactly. And if we’re going to go out there and say he’s right on Syria, then he damn well is going to have to listen to how wrong he was on Libya and Egypt, election year or no election year.

Rational Thought on March 10, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Obama blew it in Egypt and Libya. Oh, sure, but he’s gonna totally get it right on Syria. As for McCain, he wants to bomb-bomb-bomb bomb-bomb Iran, and I reckon he thinks going into Syria will get Tehran to throw the first punch at Israel.

Christien on March 10, 2012 at 7:30 PM

If Libya had a “moral imperative,” then the moral imperative for intervention in Syria came and went several months ago. So what’s the real reason our bumbler-in-chief is doing all of this?

Rational Thought on March 10, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Iran’s uprising was a moral imperative too – it’s almost like BO is a sympathizer of Islamist regimes. That’s not possible though – I saw him go to a Christian church on Easter.

DHChron on March 10, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Obama has been above average regarding foreign policy. His biggest blunder was not backing the Iranian revolution. Huge.

I do like his approach to North Korea, which has been not to become hysterical whenever the Dead Leader chose to launch a phallic symbol into the air.

rickyricardo on March 10, 2012 at 7:32 PM

What is it Sun Tzu says about how to handle enemies fighting each other? Something about just letting them do it. We shouldn’t have got involved in Libya for the same reason.

MechanicalBill on March 10, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Code Pink protests Obama the War Mongerer in 3… 2…. 1 9/10th’s…..

Roy Rogers on March 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM

The doddering warmonger McCain should just keep quiet on Syria.

He has no credibility… the perception is that he wants to go to war everywhere. Even if there was a compelling reason to get into the hornets nest of Syria, we’ve unfortunately already squandered our international goodwill on the pointless Libya attack.

anotherJoe on March 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Code Pink protests Obama the War Mongerer in 3… 2…. 1 9/10th’s…..

Roy Rogers on March 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Michelle Obama protests Roy Roger’s tasty burgers in 3…2…oh, she did it already :) or she ate them already – one of those

DHChron on March 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM

DHChron on March 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Michelle is a closet burger freak. She’s always sending the Secret Service out for triple quarter pounder Royales… It’s why her azz has it’s own Congressional District! :)

Roy Rogers on March 10, 2012 at 7:42 PM

If Obama is right on Syria, then it necessarily follows that he was wrong on Libya and Egypt. Did Kraut mention that?

Rational Thought on March 10, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Syriasly?

The Nerve on March 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Syria-sly?

profitsbeard on March 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM

*groan*

Just Sayin on March 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM

*groan*

Just Sayin on March 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Meant to include a smiley. :-)

Just Sayin on March 10, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Obama only goes after the Middle Class

tomas on March 10, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Charles Krauthammer isn’t saying not to knock over Syria. (That’s what I would say because I don’t want Syrian Christians crushed. But it’s not what Charles Krauthammer is saying.)

Charles Krauthammer is saying attack, undermine and destabilize Syria by more gradual, subtle, low cost and in the long run more effective means.

David Blue on March 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Obama’s not taking action on Syria because he doesn’t take action on anything! Debt crisis– punt! Gas prices– punt! Immigration– punt! Afghanistan– punt! Iran uprising– punt!

And when he does act? We get Obamacare. We get Libya. We get the “reset” button. We get a guy bowing to Saudis and chumming up with Hugo Chavez.

He almost didn’t get Bin Laden. Almost! And that was because all of his advisers said it was a good idea.

Fortunately, we get the benefit of his inaction here. Obama supported Egypt’s revolution, and now we have an “Islamist Democracy”. (Oxymoron if ever there was one.) In Libya, we have warring tribal Islamists fighting over Khadaffi’s ruined empire, and spurning democracy. In Syria, we have Al Queda backed Jihadists fighting a murderous dictator while innocents get slaughtered between them. And if we intervene, then what? Another 8 year occupation of an Iraq-style country?

Democracy in the Arab world is driven by the power hungry Imams who’ve been using hardcore Islam to whip the people into a frenzy. And as these dominoes fall, they’re being replace with oppressive regimes that are not friendly to Israel, the West, and the US. Ultimately, it sucks as these aren’t democracies. And they’re being set up to be neo-Irans. But the only way to get them to come to an American style democracy is to get there on their own without direct US military intervention.

Nethicus on March 10, 2012 at 7:52 PM

The doddering warmonger McCain should just keep quiet on Syria.

He has no credibility… the perception is that he wants to go to war everywhere. Even if there was a compelling reason to get into the hornets nest of Syria, we’ve unfortunately already squandered our international goodwill on the pointless Libya attack.

anotherJoe on March 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Maybe they could reconstruct one of his old crashed Navy jet fighters and give him a glass of sake, a kiss on each cheek and let him go solve Syria.

Don L on March 10, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Krauthammer???

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit!
:o

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 10, 2012 at 7:55 PM

You could go in and save them but would you really save them?

If the USSR’s Afghan Experiment and ours is any proof I seriously wonder.

CW on March 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM

We have a compelling reason to support the Regan doctirne in Syria. The current regime there is a puppet for Iran and a thorn in the side of our closest ally in the region. We should not only be arming defectors to Turkey, we should be training them. We also could be using ECM (electronic countermeasures) in Syria to make their air force less effective. Drones might not be a Bad idea either.

paulsur on March 10, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Obama was wrong on Egypt & Libya. He actually might be right on Syria.

22044 on March 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Little Bammie’s guiding principle thus far has been -’what would President George W. Bush do’, and then do the opposite.

The problem is that he can’t figure out what the former president would do on Syria. Maybe he can phone him.

slickwillie2001 on March 10, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Assad is an enemy of the US.

The Islamists seeking to take power are an enemy of the US.

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, and they are welcome to each other.

Cheer from the sidelines as they do our work for us.

ajacksonian on March 10, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I have an idea, why don’t we just let these idiots kill the other idiots and watch from afar. no matter who we help, we still have to keep sending money long after the skirmish is over. So let them ppl deal with there own problems and get that pipeline started from Canada.

angrymike on March 10, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Here’s what many Afghans think of us: ‘Die, Die, Foreigners!’.

Another good National Review article is: Let Syria Be.

McCain was supposed to be the adult in the last election. Could he really have made a worse POTUS than Obama? I’ve always assumed that he’d have been at least marginally better overall, and much better with SCOTUS appointments. Now I wonder.

Gladtobehere on March 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM

If you really want to stir things up, send foreign aid to the Kurds to get their cousins in eastery Syria to secede from Syria.

Make it look like the Kurds are going to piece together Kurdistan.

Suddenly the ME will lose attention on Israel and the US…

ajacksonian on March 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

I don’t support a defacto war in Syria for different reasons. The Libyans and Egyptians showed us what we’d get for the effort, in fact, so have the Afghans. Radical islam is what you get.

We also can’t afford in terms of blood OR treasure to go in there for a bunch of meatbags that will turn around and start screaming ‘death to America’ as soon as we think we’ve got the upper hand.

We don’t need it. If we’re going to attack any azzclowns over there it should be the Iranians, not some two bit tinpot tyrant who is just going to do what we would have done…..kill lots of mini-tinpots.

To hell with them all.

Wolfmoon on March 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I’m not liking the Linda Lingle for Senate ad at the top right.

As a Republican governor of Hawaii, she had authority over the Dems in charge of the 0bama birth-certificate records, right when the question came up. They made a whole bunch of weird law changes right then in 2008 and 2009, even changing the name of the official birth cretificate. So much odd action changing most of the benchmarks of proof of birth – right when the topic was new and actually could have been figured out, before it got Alinsky-ed by both the left AND right…

There were so many irregularties on such an important issue, that Lingle, as a Republican, had at least a partisan duty to investigate the shenanigans by the largely Democrat public employees in charge of the records.

The fact that she sat there like a slug still really bothers me, because it really seemed – and seems – to me, that she kept a distance from the whole affair… more distance than I think proper, when we’re talking about questions in 2008 about whether the prospective president is eligible.

I’m not being kooky here – I’m just remembering my very strong sense that Lingle was afraid to exercise any oversight, when it really counted and people’s minds hadn;t become cementized on the issue… and allowed it to be polarized and Alinsky-ized on her watch.

OK, seriously, just seeing her ad for Senate elicited that reaction from me. I hope she loses.

cane_loader on March 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

NOW, to indulge in a little conspiracy,

I bet 0bama helps her behind the scenes in her Senate race because she kept a lid on it..

;-)

cane_loader on March 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The time to take out both Syria and Iran was 2004.

The Dems turned traitor.

Bush flinched.

The whole world will pay the price.

Bush left a mess, by taking that much hardware and our young’uns over there , and not cleaning up the whole deal.

Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

More Americans will die in the future because of Bush’s failure.

cane_loader on March 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Just like his dad, by the way, and I voted for both of them. The Bushes were disastrous.

cane_loader on March 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM

If we had a shrewd pragmatic CinC we would own Syria right now and Iran would be teetering on the edge but that option passed while this President twiddled his thumbs and hoped Assad would cave.

Too late now Sherlock, the bad guys are indistinguishable from the other bad guys and any attempt to separate whomever you assume might innocent will only assure the horrid deaths of many many times more.

“In war, you win or lose, live or die – and the difference is an eyelash.”
– General Douglas MacArthur

“A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future.”
– General George Patton Jr

Speakup on March 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Nuke the mf’ers.

jarhead0311 on March 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Point observation:

Oh FFS. If he had any idea about what went down in Nicaragua he wouldn’t tout it as something honorable, admirable, or ‘The Reagan Doctrine’.

Krauthammer has officially beclowned himself again.

I won’t pimp out books for you but you can buy most of them for yourself on Amazon and specialist retailers. Better yet, take a trip there if you like. It’s a bit safer than Mexico and the locals all have a story.

Epic Fail.

CorporatePiggy on March 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Obama’s got a suspicious affinity for Arab Muslims and would never attack the Middle East. He’s also the worst kind of coward.

jan3 on March 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Krauthammer proposed reviving “the Reagan Doctrine,”

Ronald Reagan would slap McCain and Graham and Lieberman (and Rubio) upside the head. These sick in the head dingbats want to try “Nation Building” in all 57 Islamic States until they either get one right eventually or all American Soldiers and Marines are dead and America is totally in the poor house.

“Our experience in Lebanon led to the adoption by the administration of a set of principles to guide America in the application of military force abroad, and I would recommend it to future Presidents. The policy we adopted included these principles:
1. The United States should not commit its forces to military action overseas unless the cause is vital to our national interest.
2. If the decision is made to commit our forces to combat abroad, it must be done with the clear intent and support needed to win. It should not be a halfway or tentative commitment, and there must be clearly defined and realistic objectives.
3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.
4. Even after all these other tests are met, our troops should be committed to combat abroad only as a last resort, when no other choice is available.” – Ronald Reagan

VorDaj on March 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Charles Krauthammer is saying attack, undermine and destabilize Syria by more gradual, subtle, low cost and in the long run more effective means.

David Blue on March 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM

And get a theocracy there like we did in Iran. Krauthammer is an idiot too.

VorDaj on March 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Once is happenstance…

Obama pals provoked Egypt chaos

…Twice is coincidence.

Power-Clinton-Rice and Obama’s Libyan Folly……

The third time it’s enemy action…

Obama Unveiling Defense Strategy, Military Cuts

Seven Percent Solution on March 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The media are dead. Walter Jones, a long-serving Republican Congressman from North Carolina, introduces the following resolution on March 7, 2012, putting the President of the United States on notice that military action in Syria without “prior and clear authorization” from Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor, and the media don’t mention it.

The Bill Text follows:

H.CON.RES.107 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high… (Introduced in House – IH)

HCON 107 IH

112th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. CON. RES. 107

Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 7, 2012

Mr. JONES submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

VorDaj on March 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM

krauthammer is wrong.

like other internecine wars throughout islamic history, this is a war between muslims: assad and iran and aq and the mb are killing each other.

we should arm all sides and let them kill each other for as long as possible.

(as kissinger said about the iraq-iran war,)

reliapundit on March 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM

When America’s enemies face off against each other, it is not in our interest to choose one over the other. As they battle, they weaken each other — and that has already had the salutary effect of weakening Iran, which now sees not only Assad teetering but its tenuous ties with Hamas fraying.

Of course it is tragic that some innocent victims and authentic liberal democrats are caught in the carnage. It is not our burden, however, to prevent that or to become enmeshed in other countries’ civil wars – not when there is no vital American interest in one side’s prevailing over the other. It is certainly not in the vital interests of a country weary of war, out of patience with Muslim madness, and $15 trillion in debt to further insinuate itself so that anti-American dictators can be replaced by anti-American Islamists.

It’s a pity that they can’t both lose. But if they have to savage someone, better each other than us.
(Andrew McCarthy)

VorDaj on March 10, 2012 at 9:09 PM

This is also about keeping certain parties on board to handle Iran. The Russians have been helpful on Iran to almost the same degree that they have been an impediment regarding Syria. They are clear about how they would feel if the US or NATO intervened militarily.

lexhamfox on March 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

War is all McCain has left in him. He embarrassed himself in 2008 and should choose to fade with grace.

Sherman1864 on March 10, 2012 at 9:30 PM

wouldn’t it be cool if the new government of Syria tells us where to find Iraq’s WMDs??

eagleriverboy on March 10, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I learned in the military education system that the U.S. should only go to war when it is in the U.S. national interest.

What is the U.S. national interest in Syria?

Special Forces Grunt on March 10, 2012 at 10:36 PM

THIS is the bottom line. Don’t come on the television and lecture me about “the moral imperative” to intervene in a potential “human rights disaster” in Libya and then turn a blind eye on the next — and far worse — one. If Libya had a “moral imperative,” then the moral imperative for intervention in Syria came and went several months ago. So what’s the real reason our bumbler-in-chief is doing all of this?

Rational Thought on March 10, 2012 at 7:27 PM

If our national POW hasn’t been standing in the well of the Senate every day b!tching about the negative effect abortion has on our moral imperative, then I’m supremely uninterested in Syria.

The main reason Jugears is keeping his distance from Syria is that Assad has all of Saddam’s WMD. Assad simply told him that if he did anything against him, then Syria would retaliate with WMD attacks on Americans in America. Sort of an Arab version of the Samson defense the Israelis have.

Jugears has those big ears for a reason – he can hear direct threats very well.

platypus on March 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

“I think what we should adopt is the Reagan Doctrine, the way he combated the expansion of Soviet influence in Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Angola. You support the insurgency. You don’t put Americans on the ground or in the air,”

Let’s not forget that supporting the insurgency in Afghanistan eventually led to the rise of the Taliban, to 9/11, and to our troops being commited on the ground for the better part of a decade.

I prefer something other than the Reagan doctorine. They’re Syrians,and just because they don’t agree with eachother, that doesn’t mean that one side is our friend or that either side is an enemy to Iran. So, screw em.

mtucker5695 on March 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM

The reason not to try another Libyan adventure is that continuing a war past the period allowed by the WPA without congressional approval is unconstitutional.

Tzetzes on March 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Mitt the Hawk, The New Goldwater?

Not even elected and already starting a war!

President Obama bombed Libya because of all the pickup trucks. Show our leader some rednecks and he will nuke the daylights out of a place.

All Romney haters please take note:

Mr. Joshua Hersh has an article in Huff Po attacking Mitt!

A retired Mossad leader, Efraim Halevy, thinks he is making everything WORSE over there.

Mitt had the temerity to point out President Obama’s reticence to use force in contrast to his willingness to destroy evil and threats to Israel.

Now isn’t that something for a Mossad operative to get upset about?

IlikedAUH2O on March 11, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Let’s not forget that supporting the insurgency in Afghanistan eventually led to the rise of the Taliban, to 9/11, and to our troops being commited on the ground for the better part of a decade.

9/11 was a consequence of Clinton’s failure to capture or kill Bin Laden when he had the chance. Our decision to try to civilize Afghanistan was just plain stupid, and it stands by itself as just plain stupid. Neither of those things was caused by our support for the Afghanistan insurgency against the Soviets.

fadetogray on March 11, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Tzetzes on March 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta sorta slipped and said we need international permission to move on Syria. Senator Sessions, I believe, questioned him at length.

Then he walked it back after the hearing. Sen. Sessions questions well. The answers seemed clear.

Maybe we have a group planning a strike on all these right wing nuts. Mossad, Panetta and the rest can take care of the problem and let the grownups handle things.

And once Iran is a flush nuclear power it is not a military problem. We can’t attack folks with nukes. Peace in our time.

IlikedAUH2O on March 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM

They are both right: McCain in that the fall of the Assad dynasty will be a blow to Iran and Hezbollah, Obama in that we don’t have the favorable situation to intervene and it isn’t critical to our national security whether Assad falls now or a year from now.

Adjoran on March 11, 2012 at 1:19 AM

The Alawite minority sect Assad and his cadre of governors and generals belong to is only about 12% of the population, they drink alcohol and celebrate Jesus, so are regarded as apostates by most muslims. They also have a bloody and ruthless record of murderous suppression of the other sects in Syria.

When Assad falls, there will be no amnesties. There will be blood for blood with a heavy debt to pay. The regime knows this, and this is why to them there is no peaceful end to this. When they are deposed, they will be killed.

Trying to negotiate in such a situation is a waste of time.

Adjoran on March 11, 2012 at 1:23 AM

OK, Tina, please explain to this dumb old broad just how and in what way al Qaeda governing Syria is better than Bashar al-Assad. There is no reason on Earth for us to waste more than jawbone wiggling on the whole mess in Syria. There’s nothing constructive we can do there.

{^_^}

herself on March 11, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Once again, McCain is not being helpful to us. The last thing Americans want is another military entanglement. Would I like to see Assad dead and his Russian and Iranian backers and Hezbollah given a black eye? Of course. They richly deserve it. But it is unclear how airstrikes are going to accomplish it.

It is not going to happen without another long, expensive struggle (read: occupation) that Americans clearly don´t have the nerve for. A struggle that will be abandoned by the Democrats as soon as a domestic political advantage can be gained by demagoguing against it.

el gordo on March 11, 2012 at 4:54 AM

O/T

Oh God hope this isn’t true

US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17330205

A US soldier in Afghanistan has killed 10 civilians and wounded five in Kandahar province after suffering a breakdown, officials say.

He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire after entering local homes, the BBC’s Quentin Sommerville reports from Kabul………..

SgtSVJones on March 11, 2012 at 5:29 AM

I agree in general and how surprising is it that McCain is the one Republican who would cause me to agree with Obama (well 2, can’t forget his boy wonder sidekick Lindsey)

“I think this is not Libya. Libya is an oil well with a long beach and a primitive army. Syria has a serious air force, a serious army, and this would be a serious war.”

That’s very untrue, the Syrian army is every bit the joke other Arab armies are. Yes it has more tanks, artillery and planes but in American/Israeli/Western parlance those are known as JDAM fodder.

jarodea on March 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Krauthammer is wrong, and has shown that he is leaning more left as time passes. His opinions over the last several months have been more wrong than correct. Syria is key to resolving much of the middle east problems, and delay or procrastination will lead to disaster.

lhuffman34 on March 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Mighty gratifying that certified brilliant person Krauthammer agrees with the Space on this. Obama, though? There’s a difference between being a ‘calm voice’ and passive-aggressively undermining every USA foreign policy endeavor. No credit should be assigned that voice whatsoever. Ever. Even inadvertently.

McCain et al are chronic Senatoritis sufferers, locked into a USA-as-liberator mentality of some kind. That may have worked for Europe. Could have worked for Viet Nam if it had been allowed to. But the Middle East? Will it never occur to the McCains of this country that those pestholes are best left to rot? Not difficult to pinpoint the difference between these countries and more civilized regions of the world. Why do our elites favor Islam so? Long long story but shorthand of it might be that they admire it because it’s a population control success story. Submit! Wouldn’t our government and media love if they could command us to pray to them five times a day? Yes it’s unfortunate for the people over there, but why can we easily chalk up genocides in other parts of the world to fate, yet self-delude about a cesspool like Syria? It can’t be just the oil. Syria is not Saudi Arabia for oil. There’s something else at work.

What are we doing, making the region safe for things like this?! NINETY Iraqi students killed for having ‘strange hair and tight clothes’

This is in Iraq! Is that what we’re fighting for? This was the tip of the spear for USA nation-building, Teen stonings in Iraq. Imagine what would be made of this if anyone (forget Bush) but Obama was president. Obama is not entitled to minimum credit for anything. We’d say that this story alone illustrates the failure of such naive policies. How about that Libya? Success? Liberated? And now Syria? Come on.

Support Israel to the hilt. Leave the rest of it to crumble under the weight of their “vibrant culture.”*

*(‘Vibrant culture’ was what the Florida Agriculture Department official credited as the reason 9/11 leader Mo Atta threatened to cut her throat when she informed him that his $600,000 crop dusting grant application was denied.)

curved space on March 11, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Maybe they could reconstruct one of his old crashed Navy jet fighters and give him a glass of sake, a kiss on each cheek and let him go solve Syria.

Don L on March 10, 2012 at 7:52 PM

And with him can go the newly-minted division of Keyboard Commando Paratroopers. |-\

And Obama is right…like a stopped clock or a blind hog. We don’t even have the reason of “OMG! WMD!” (Iraq) or national revenge (Afcr@pistan) to bother with that pesthole. Let it burn and let the barbarians kill each other.

I’m also heartened to see that many lifelong hawks are admitting that intervening is completely pointless, and that we cannot afford to waste blood or gold on such a venture.

MelonCollie on March 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I am reminded of the Iran-Iraq war when I was rooting for both sides to lose.

merlich on March 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Hey, didn’t Pelosi cozy up to Bashar Al-Assad?

BigAlSouth on March 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM