ReVolt: Obama wants you to pay even more for cars nobody wants

posted at 3:40 pm on March 8, 2012 by Tina Korbe

In a speech before the Daimler Trucks North America manufacturing plant in Charlotte, N.C. today, the president delivered his answer to rising gas prices: He wants to increase the $7,500 tax credit for alternative-energy vehicles to $10,000, earmark $1 billion to reward cities that provide infrastructure for such vehicles, earmark an additional $650 million for a research program to increase the range and decrease the price of the vehicles, and repeal $4 billion of tax incentives for oil and gas companies.

Why? Here is a telltale paragraph from The New York Times:

The credit’s enhanced value would bring the purchase price of alternative-energy vehicles more in line with conventional models, supporters say. Partly because of the vehicles’ costs, sales have been a problem. General Motors announced last week that it was suspending production for five weeks of the Chevrolet Volt, a plug-in hybrid that Mr. Obama has promoted in the past. On Wednesday, he did not mention his goal of having one million electric vehicles on the nation’s roads in 2015.

So, supporters admit that, right now, the benefits of alternative-energy vehicles don’t yet outweigh the costs to consumers. To the producers of such vehicles, I say: Tough luck. The onus is on them to produce a product that consumers actually want to purchase at a price they can afford. Tax credits might give consumers more reason to purchase the vehicles, but it won’t give the producer any incentive to look for cheaper ways to manufacture them. The president’s tax credit ensures that taxpayers will continue to pay an arbitrarily high price for the vehicles long after the market would have brought costs down.

The tax code exists to raise revenue so the federal government can fulfill certain basic, essential functions that individuals or state and local governments cannot (like defend the nation from its enemies!). Tax credits, tax subsidies and tax penalties turn the tax code into an instrument to manipulate behavior instead. That some Republicans favor tax credits for oil and gas companies and that some Democrats favor tax credits for alternative energy companies reveals the problem inherent in the use of the tax code for such behavior manipulation: It leaves it up to politicians in Washington to determine what behavior is desirable. Let the people decide instead.


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Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Why all of this fu*&$ng around?

Under the Commerce Clause, the mandatory purchase of a State approved electric vehicle is allowed.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

sales have been a problem

heh

To the producers of such vehicles, I say: Tough luck. The onus is on them to produce a product that consumers actually want raise gas prices

kunegetikos on March 8, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I bought my 1 year old Intrepid for $10,000, 10 years ago.

Has it come to this?
$10,000 tax credit???

Electrongod on March 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Partly because of the vehicles’ costs, sales have been a problem.

If cost is only part of the problem, what say we address the other reasons that “sales have been a problem” before we throw more of my money at this lemon, eh?

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Bishop (maybe) !

herm2416 on March 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

All part of the plan. Who cares if it ever sells, the important thing is that the unions are getting paid, which in turn means the Dems are getting paid.

JeremiahJohnson on March 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

P.S. I shudder, when I think of how many Americans either can’t foresee, or simply don’t give a damn about, the unrestrained power of the State, under a Commerce Clause mandate.

Nothing but cattle.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Why stop there? Why not make it $30,000? I’m kidding, but you know that’ll eventually happen at the rate we’re going.

BTW, what other “alternative energy vehicles” qualify for the 10 grand(or $7500 at the moment)? I know hybrids aren’t, so what does that leave? The Volt? The Leaf? Anything else?

Doughboy on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Your plan is, I’m afraid, deeply flawed … In a volt, he’d only get a couple miles outside of DC.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Under the Commerce Clause, the mandatory purchase of a State approved electric vehicle is allowed.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 P

M

You can’t buy a car without a catalytic converter. You can’t buy a car with or without [fill in the blank with whatever you want].

kunegetikos on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Let’s vote Obama out and volt him back to Chicago…but beat him with whom?

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

So you wanna run him out of town on a fail, um…I mean rail.

Laura in Maryland on March 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

You all need to stop wishing him back here in Chicago; would you please wish him back to some other place? Please?

herm2416 on March 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Your plan is, I’m afraid, deeply flawed … In a volt, he’d only get a couple miles outside of DC.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

NIMBY!

Laura in Maryland on March 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Being that they spontaneously combust, this could be considered a threat by the Secret Service.

Chuck Schick on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Isn’t the header image a Honda?

Also, to paraphrase the inspired works of the Insane Clown Posse
Markets, how do they work?

Dead Hand Control on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

The Volt wouldn’t even make it to Virginia.

wildcat72 on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

That some Republicans favor tax credits for oil and gas companies and that some Democrats favor tax credits for alternative energy companies reveals the problem inherent in the use of the tax code for such behavior manipulation: It leaves it up to politicians in Washington to determine what behavior is desirable. Let the people decide instead.

Precisely. Let the free market and consumer preference decide the winners and losers and keep the politicians away from it entirely.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

” GM had expected to sell 10,000 Volts by the end of last year, the car’s first full year on the market. Actual sales tallied up to only about 7,600.
For 2012, GM had set a goal of about 45,000 Volt sales in the United States alone. That already seems out of reach. GM sold about 600 Volts in January and just over 1,000 in February. ”
——

Nobody wants them.

Righhht.

More like, less people want them right now based on the rosy projections GM pulled out of its ass to pump its own PR.

They’re on track to sell about 10,000 in 2012. Gee, that’s a couple thousand more than 2011. Perhaps people are simply taking longer to like the cars.

But you’d rather cheer the car’s failure and Obama’s failure

What a partisan tool you are.

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

and repeal $4 billion of tax incentives for oil and gas companies.

Does El Presidente Downgrade understand anything about Econ 101?

Does he know that the money he extracts from the oil companies will have to come out of our pockets in the form higher gas prices?

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Once you apply the “Cash for Clunkers” factor, that $10,000 per car subsidy will end up costing taxpayers $50,000 per car.

Dexter_Alarius on March 8, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Your plan is, I’m afraid, deeply flawed … In a volt, he’d only get a couple miles outside of DC.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

How ’bout we put him in a crashed Volt, lock him in a garage, and wait a few weeks?

Shepherd Lover on March 8, 2012 at 3:50 PM

If cost is only part of the problem…

Don’t be sentimental. Things explode into flames every day.

kunegetikos on March 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Hey Dave, can you tell us why the DNC waging is a War on liberty?

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Be still my heart!! A $10,000 tax credit for a $45,000 car? Boy, I bet the public beats a path to GM’s door…… NOT!!

Bitter Clinger on March 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM

In Utopia, the Chinese will be driving luxury vehicles, while we Utopians are riding bicycles.

And, wearing State approved, state mandated uniforms.

Fear not, Comrades … the Commerce Clause is the glorious road to Utopia.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

If people want them, why do you suppose they have to be bribed with more taxpayer money than they were already bribing them with?

Chuck Schick on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The car of your future!

Iowahawk classic.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

So when do we get the new Unsafe At Any Speed from the “consumerists”?

kunegetikos on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The tax code exists to raise revenue so the federal government can fulfill certain basic, essential functions that individuals or state and local governments cannot (like defend the nation from its enemies!). Tax credits, tax subsidies and tax penalties turn the tax code into an instrument to manipulate behavior instead. That some Republicans favor tax credits for oil and gas companies and that some Democrats favor tax credits for alternative energy companies reveals the problem inherent in the use of the tax code for such behavior manipulation: It leaves it up to politicians in Washington to determine what behavior is desirable. Let the people decide instead.

This is why there needs to be a end to federal income taxes. Bring on the FairTax!!!

Bitter Clinger on March 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM

They’re on track to sell about 10,000 in 2012. Gee, that’s a couple thousand more than 2011. Perhaps people are simply taking longer to like the cars.

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Care to pony up stats on fleet sales to the federal government, state and local governments (using federal grant money) and GE (who happens to make charging stations for said vehicle)?

“people” buying volts aren’t responsible for the increase in sales.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM

What a partisan tool you are, Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Fixed It For The Rest Of Us

M240H on March 8, 2012 at 3:55 PM

The tax code exists to raise revenue so the federal government can fulfill certain basic, essential functions that individuals or state and local governments cannot (like defend the nation from its enemies!). Tax credits, tax subsidies and tax penalties turn the tax code into an instrument to manipulate behavior instead. That some Republicans favor tax credits for oil and gas companies and that some Democrats favor tax credits for alternative energy companies reveals the problem inherent in the use of the tax code for such behavior manipulation: It leaves it up to politicians in Washington to determine what behavior is desirable. Let the people decide instead.

Totally agree.I really don’t think the bigger credit is much of a needle mover. You have a car that gets 35 miles on electric before going to gas which is not overly impressive + the 8,000 dollar battery that last 8 years is going kill any resale ability whatsoever. Only a bureaucrat could see this as a winner.

Southernblogger on March 8, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Speaking of Revolting:

Gas Prices Now A Big Factor In Presidential Election
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/03/07/gas-prices-now-a-big-factor-in-presidential-election/

Too bad for Obama and his continued Downgrading of the energy supply, sounds like that issue is going to be a Keystone in the election.

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Shove it, Barry- how dare you try to bend us over to bail you out of your ‘green’ debacles

I’m driving a used car to save money these days… if you think helping to pay for these plug-in POS’s you’re out of your mind

Reaganite Republican on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

All part of the plan. Who cares if it ever sells, the important thing is that the unions Americans are getting paid, which in turn means the Dems other Americans are getting paid.

FTFY. It’s called an economy and it works, even when you’re not in the loop.

Mmm...Burritos on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

“When demand is low increase supply to increase demand.” – Economics Professor Obama

NotCoach on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I’m pretty sure this is in obamacare.

crash72 on March 8, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Perhaps people are simply taking longer to like warm up to the cars.

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Fortunately, GM has that covered as standard equipment.

Left Coast Right Mind on March 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM

electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket

Now explain to me again why I would want an electric car.

meci on March 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Does he know that the money he extracts from the oil companies will have to come out of our pockets in the form higher gas prices?

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Hold on, if tax ‘incentives’ are eliminated for oil companies resulting in prices that better reflect the true cost of oil to the US, isn’t that a good thing?

If not for this country’s dependence on oil, the US would have spent about a trillion $$ less on wars over the past couple decades. And that doesn’t include the ongoing cost of US military in the Middle East today.

Until Obama has fully erected a communist state, there’s no military cost to patrolling natural gas fields in Texas and Arkansas.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM

So you wanna run him out of town on a fail, um…I mean rail.

Laura in Maryland on March 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM

heh!

brings new meaning to the term “hot rod”….

ted c on March 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Wouldn’t just be easier to pass a law requiring every American to buy a Volt, said mandate justified by a need to solve our energy crisis?

FerdtheMoonCat on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

CP is sold.

If I can get a $10,000 tax credit I will buy GM’s 4 wheeled IED.

Shopping is so boring. One way to spice it up would be to risk dying in an exploding car stamped ‘made in America-ish’.

CorporatePiggy on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Speaking of Revolting:

Gas Prices Now A Big Factor In Presidential Election
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/03/07/gas-prices-now-a-big-factor-in-presidential-election/

Too bad for Obama and his continued Downgrading of the energy supply, sounds like that issue is going to be a Keystone in the election.

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Why do you think the Regime wants us to obsess on contraception and Rush Limbaugh? They know that the “no drilling anywhere, EVER! $5/gallon gasoline President” can’t get re-elected.

wildcat72 on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

But you’d rather cheer the car’s failure and Obama’s failure

What a partisan tool you are.

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Imagine how the military felt when that type of “hoping for Bush to fail” was directed at people who where in harms way engaged in two wars.

Imagine what it’s like flying daily missions to Fallujah to support our Marine brothers and sisters over an enemy being financially supported to the tune of over 600K by Code Pink. Imagine having that group lauded as patriots by John Murtha as he convicts Marines from Haditha without a trial in the media. Imagine how the military felt each and every time they used the weekly monthly death tolls as “milestones of the Bush Administration’s failure.”

Partisan tools?

Your indignation is noted. Move on to someone who’s been asleep for ten years or so.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Some people are swapping K series into those Honda Insights. Bet they will with the CR-Z too but the older Insight looks more “eco” so the swap to a fuel burning hoss is more shocking to greenie slime.

Daikokuco on March 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM

The car that defines Obama’s presidency. Overrated, underperforming, runs on nothing of substance, won’t get you anywhere, costs you too much and you might die in the process.

Pretty much sums up the Big champ, eh?

ted c on March 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM

brings new meaning to the term “hot rod”….

ted c on March 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM

:D

Laura in Maryland on March 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM

In a speech before the Daimler Trucks North America manufacturing plant in Charlotte, N.C. today, the president delivered his answer to rising gas prices: He wants to increase the $7,500 tax credit for alternative-energy vehicles to $10,000

Tina, you’re showing a photo of a Honda Insight on the cover. And the Honda Insight is even less appealing than a Volt to most consumers.

When demand is low increase supply to increase demand. – Economics Professor Obama

NotCoach on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Actually, the idea is to increase production to lower cost.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Sell all Volts to China as new iPad version. Now with wheels!

Archivarix on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Is Super Genius going to earmark more electrical power-plants? Where the hell is all the juice for these rolling disasters supposed to come from, Unicorn Farts aren’t going to be enough.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Hey look, the Minister of Truth is here to sell cars!

tom daschle concerned on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

The car of your future!

Iowahawk classic.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Holy freaking crap. That is hilarious.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Nobody wants to buy an Obama Pinto…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Actually, the idea is to increase production to lower cost.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Economics thrown on its head.

Producing more of a product for which there is no demand works in what economic model, because last time I checked a warehouse full of unwanted and unsold goods doesn’t actually earn a profit.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

how about a tax credit for anyone helping to build a fence to our southern neighbor?

SDarchitect on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Holy freaking crap. That is hilarious.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I thought everyone had seen that?

It was pretty good.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 4:09 PM

credit ensures that taxpayers will continue to pay an arbitrarily high price for the vehicles college education long after the market would have brought costs down.

credit ensures that taxpayers will continue to pay an arbitrarily high price for the vehicles college education housing long after the market would have brought costs down.

Wash, rinse, repeat

LtGenRob on March 8, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Hey, “O”…why not just make it a MANDATE that the dealers have to sell a certain number of Volts?

Opposite Day on March 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Imagine how the left breathlessly awaited each new “milestone” in the American death count so they could pin it around Bush’s neck.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Is Super Genius going to earmark more electrical power-plants? Where the hell is all the juice for these rolling disasters supposed to come from, Unicorn Farts aren’t going to be enough.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Solyndra was supposed to fix that part of the equation. I guess now he will need wind mills on every acre of open land in the country to get the power needed. Of course, he hasn’t figured out how to make the wind blow every day.

Bitter Clinger on March 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Your plan is, I’m afraid, deeply flawed … In a volt, he’d only get a couple miles outside of DC.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Yeah, and end up right outside my house.

I don’t like this plan at all. No sir, I don’t like it one little bit!!

(Well I like the part about sending him home, but other than that the plan needs LOTS of work…)

PetecminMd on March 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Isn’t the header image a Honda?
Dead Hand Control on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Yes, it is. The Volt was on its way to the photoshoot when it ran out of electricity. The only stand in they could find was a Honda.

turfmann on March 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Honda already manufactured the volt killer. In 1988.

The HF’s engine, of course, was no match for the Si, but at 52 mpg on the highway, it got almost 20 mpg more! HF, after all, stood for “high fuel economy”. It also could mean “high fun”.

tom daschle concerned on March 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I thought everyone had seen that?

It was pretty good.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I’m in the slow class. How old is that?

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Where does the money come from?

Do you understand that ‘dependence on oil’ stems from the fact that a modern society needs energy?

There is no other way around it – energy is the lifeblood of modern living and chemical energy provides the best in energy density.

Face facts, we can no longer forgo energy than we can forgo food.

BTW, Why is the DNC waging a War on liberty?

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Does the Volt come in an eye-watering 540 horse, 510 lbs of torque rear wheel drive model? If so then I’ll take it. Until that happens, I’ll stick with the Mustang and continue to be a man.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Imagine how the left breathlessly awaited each new “milestone” in the American death count so they could pin it around Bush’s neck.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM

And you wingnuts didn’t care about the iraqi 1.5 million death count!

/

tom daschle concerned on March 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Marketing 101. Old school.

Build a product of good quality that works well that people demand, are flocking to purchase, at a price the majority of the intended population can easily afford and you rake in the cash and become a member of the higher-end 1% overnight.

The American way.

Marketing 101. New school.

Fob off a piece of crap at a price nobody wants to pay, which very few can actually afford to pay, a product that does not work well, and has serious design flaws…and then get billions in free government money and you can become rich off the rest of the people who have no say in how much you are raking in…and maybe get a nice cushy government job, as well, for your trouble.

The Obama way.

coldwarrior on March 8, 2012 at 4:16 PM

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Imagine how the left breathlessly awaited each new “milestone” in the American death count so they could pin it around Bush’s neck.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I know. Don’t get me started.

The idea that because we’re pointing out that an overpriced car, that doesn’t perform like it was touted, and isn’t selling at all well for a myriad of reasons, funded by our tax dollars makes us partisan just …

Well.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Actually, the idea is to increase production to lower cost.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Clearly that’s not Obama’s idea.

Chuck Schick on March 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Speaking of Revolting:

Gas Prices Now A Big Factor In Presidential Election
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/03/07/gas-prices-now-a-big-factor-in-presidential-election/

Too bad for Obama and his continued Downgrading of the energy supply, sounds like that issue is going to be a Keystone in the election.

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Why do you think the Regime wants us to obsess on contraception and Rush Limbaugh? They know that the “no drilling anywhere, EVER! $5/gallon gasoline President” can’t get re-elected.

wildcat72 on March 8, 2012 at 4:02 PM

And that is why as soon as that dumb little narrative dies out, they will foist another on us.

IF I were a betting woman – and I’m not – I would say it’s going to be a big hub bub on the Eeeeeevvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiillllllllllll Oil Companies.

Chip on March 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Actually, the idea is to increase production to lower cost.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

“We lose money on every unit, but we make it up in volume.” – barakanomics

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM

We are becoming communist Cuba. Obama and the dummocrats dream for Amerika. God help us if he gets 4 more years. I never thought I would see this happening in America. 9.1 unemployment after 3 1/2 years in office, the workers paradise is on schedule.
Hide your children from these bastards. Home School while you still can. If you can’t home school think about setting up neighborhood reeducation centers for after the communist day school ends to teach your children the truth and equip them to challenge these wipes at school.

SANTA on March 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I’m in the slow class. How old is that?

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:13 PM

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/11/lemon.html

2008.

The video was added a few days later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Evidently, I’m in the very slow class.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Iowahawk classic.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Oh my. I got tears in my eyes I was laughing so hard watching that. Thanks so much for sharing that.

totherightofthem on March 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Solyndra was supposed to fix that part of the equation. I guess now he will need wind mills on every acre of open land in the country to get the power needed. Of course, he hasn’t figured out how to make the wind blow every day.

Bitter Clinger on March 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Maybe GM should send the Volts to Oregon and let the windmills charge them up, if they have too much wind and hydro power.

Steve Z on March 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Tina, you are so young an naive. The primary purpose of the tax code is not to raise revenue. This has been true for over 100 years, coinciding with the birth of progressivism. Both parties are to blame, and that is why the Establishment must go! Honestly, how much less progressive was GW Bush than Obozo? Really, not much difference there.

NOMOBO on March 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Yeah, and end up right outside my house.

I don’t like this plan at all. No sir, I don’t like it one little bit!!

(Well I like the part about sending him home, but other than that the plan needs LOTS of work…)

PetecminMd on March 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Well, as Shepherd Lover on March 8, 2012 at 3:50 PM points out, it’ll probably burst into flames before it makes it to your place, so there’s that.

Lost in Jersey on March 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Evidently, I’m in the very slow class.

hawkdriver on March 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Sadly some of us have actual lives to live, and you probably suffer under that burden as well.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 4:22 PM

OIL….. almost everything you use in your daily existence required oil to either manufacture it or to transport it. The term “Alternative” suggests a choice…. Mandates are not a choice. Government overreach and rule by edict is tyranny.

IF in fact electric cars are going to be our future… let the private sector rule the day, time and investment.

The President is an out of control tyrant and he needs to find a new job. This administration HAS NO MORE MONEY to spend on tax breaks for incentives or anything else.

Time to get this President’s boot off of our collective necks…. “2012″ be free or collapse under massive insurmountable collective debt.

Peeling back the onion skin of truth about President Barack Husein Obama… It is who you knew that helps mold you into what you believe and who you owe as well.

ActinUpinTexas on March 8, 2012 at 4:23 PM

BTW, what other “alternative energy vehicles” qualify for the 10 grand(or $7500 at the moment)? I know hybrids aren’t, so what does that leave? The Volt? The Leaf? Anything else?

Doughboy on March 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Maybe the subsidy caused a ReVolt, but it won’t give us ReLeaf.

Steve Z on March 8, 2012 at 4:24 PM

1. Steal underpants.

2.

3. Profit.

coldwarrior on March 8, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Step 1: Drastically increase electricity consumption by switching everyone to electric cars.

Step 2: Drastically decrease electricity supply by shutting down coal-fired electric generation plants.

?? Something here doesn’t add up.

Steven Den Beste on March 8, 2012 at 4:26 PM

That is one ugly looking car.

galtani on March 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM

But you’d rather cheer the car’s failure and Obama’s failure

What a partisan tool you are.

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Well, finally, you’ve admitted that the car and Obama are failures.

You’re making progress, Dave.

iurockhead on March 8, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Come on folks, have a heart. Greedy UAW workers that build the Volt are being laid off, thus less is being paid in union dues, and the union has less money to jam into Little Bammie’s reelection coffers.

Bigger subsidy = more sales = more dues = mo’money for Bammie!

slickwillie2001 on March 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Mr. President, how about you allow the development of our natural resources, approve the Keystone pipeline, and open up more lands for drilling instead of forcing us to drive cars you want us too. Your way of doing things suck!

tommer74 on March 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Let’s put Obama in a Volt and point him back to Chicago this November.

ObamatheMessiah on March 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Anyone else willing to provide some extension cords?

ProfShadow on March 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Step 1: Drastically increase electricity consumption by switching everyone to electric cars.

Step 2: Drastically decrease electricity supply by shutting down coal-fired electric generation plants.

?? Something here doesn’t add up.

Steven Den Beste on March 8, 2012 at 4:26 PM

It is called bringing America to its knees. Destroying the last great hope. This is what Obama was elected to do. Make no mistake.

tom daschle concerned on March 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Dave Rywall on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

With Canadian winters being cold and all I imagine the gas engine will get a lot of work what with the Dolts electric heater!

angrycodgr on March 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Another tax break for the rich folks.

ctmom on March 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Honda already manufactured the volt killer. In 1988.

The HF’s engine, of course, was no match for the Si, but at 52 mpg on the highway, it got almost 20 mpg more! HF, after all, stood for “high fuel economy”. It also could mean “high fun”.

tom daschle concerned on March 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Before then even: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_%28second_generation%29

rated at 41 mpg-US (5.7 L/100 km; 49 mpg-imp) in the city and 55 mpg-US (4.3 L/100 km; 66 mpg-imp) on the highway

Daikokuco on March 8, 2012 at 4:34 PM

If I’m struggling to pay for gas, where am I supposed to get the money to buy a new car, let alone one that costs $42,000 before the tax credit? Call me selfish, but I’m getting just a little tired of paying for other people’s stuff.

natasha333 on March 8, 2012 at 4:34 PM

bayam, while producing at something closer to efficient scale will bring the unit cost down, it’s unlikely to make the Volt cost-competitive with the $26,000 price point where you find the Prius, the Civic Hybrid, and the hybrid Camry, Sonata or Optima.

Just ain’t happening.

DrSteve on March 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Actually, the idea is to increase production to lower cost.

bayam on March 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

“Production cost per unit is the primary motivator of all manufacturers.” – Economics Professor Obama speaking at The 1st Church of Climatology after a Pastor bayam sermon.

NotCoach on March 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Anybody have a list of cars this would cover?

albill on March 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM

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