Karzai endorses strict new “code of conduct” proposed by Afghan Muslim clerics

posted at 9:35 pm on March 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

I guess he figures that if the country will be back in Taliban hands soon enough, he might as well get ahead of the curve. Maybe when they’re back in power they’ll even keep him on as a figurehead president, a bridge to the west so that NATO countries can’t cut ties with Afghanistan in protest of Taliban rule as easily as they otherwise might.

Last week, Mark Steyn wrote at NRO, “Six weeks after the last NATO soldier leaves Afghanistan, it will be as if we were never there… America’s longest war will leave nothing behind.” Not true. Karzai might still be there, busily rubber-stamping each new proposal to restore the country to its glory days of late summer 2001.

President Hamid Karzai’s Tuesday remarks backing the Ulema Council’s document, which allows husbands to beat wives under certain circumstances and encourages segregation of the sexes, is seen as part of his outreach to insurgents like the Taliban…

Among the rules: Women should not travel without a male guardian and women should not mingle with strange men in places like schools, markets or offices. Beating one’s wife is prohibited only if there is no “Shariah-compliant reason,” it said, referring to the principles of Islamic law.

Asked about the code of conduct at a press conference in the capital, Karzai said it was in line with Islamic law and was written in consultation with Afghan women’s groups. He did not name the groups that were consulted…

The exception for certain types of beatings also appears to contradict Afghan law that prohibits spousal abuse. And the guidelines also promote rules on divorce that give women few rights, a real turnaround from pledges by Karzai to reform Afghan family law to make divorces more equitable, Barr said.

Ignoring pledges is Karzai’s forte. If you’re not sufficiently enraged and depressed already, go read this NYT piece about how Afghanistan’s endemic corruption remains as endemic as ever, thanks in part to Karzai continuing to look the other way despite promising to end the “culture of impunity” at an international summit next year. Literally no one has been prosecuted for graft, even though Petraeus’s team compiled damning evidence against an Afghan general and handed it to Karzai to make things easy. And the punchline, of course, is that there’s nothing we can do: The more we alienate him, the more headaches we’ll have during our vaporous, halting peace talks with Pakistan and the Taliban. He and his government are too big to fail, even though they will fail once we’re gone, and realistically there’s no one better to replace him with. Says military expert Anthony Cordesman, “If you find people who aren’t corrupt, it is largely because they haven’t had the opportunity.” We tried to build a kinda sorta quasi-modern-ish state on a tribalist, mostly illiterate Islamist culture, and here we are. No wonder David Warren’s thrown in the towel.


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That stupid hat must have cut off the circulation to his brain.

Karzai is doomed and he knows it, no matter what he does his days on Earth have become radically reduced.

Bishop on March 8, 2012 at 9:37 PM

again, i offer my middle finger. sit and spin.

GhoulAid on March 8, 2012 at 9:37 PM

As Mike Savage calls them, the” Crapistan Countries”, let them all kill each other.

retiredeagle on March 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Maybe when they’re back in power they’ll even keep him on as a figurehead president, a bridge to the west so that NATO countries can’t cut ties with Afghanistan in protest of Taliban rule as easily as they otherwise might.

He’ll be lucky to escape with his head intact IF he stays in Afghanistan, which I doubt.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I know everyone hates us Ro Paul supporters for beig “blame America first” folks, but it really is our fault for writing Shariah law in to their constitution in the first place. But forget I said any of that, apparently blow back of this sort doesn’t happen and when it does we musn’t speak of it.

abobo on March 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Nothing any different there than what goes on in Saudi Arabia.

JPeterman on March 8, 2012 at 9:41 PM

heh, should have been Ron, with an “n”. Works either way.

abobo on March 8, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Karzai will be on the next to last NATO aircraft to leave.

RickB on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Isn’t this exactly what everyone predicted would happen in Afghanistan? That it is being whole-heartedly approved by Karzai is just the cherry on top. Embrace your future, people of the world, because this is what they have in mind for everyone. Oh, no, I think I’ve caught Steynitis…. :-(

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

I know everyone hates us Ro Paul supporters for beig “blame America first” folks, but it really is our fault for writing Shariah law in to their constitution in the first place. But forget I said any of that, apparently blow back of this sort doesn’t happen and when it does we musn’t speak of it.

abobo on March 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

So we should have forced them to write a constitution that we liked and ignored what they were asking for?

Then you Paultards would come here and say that its all blowback for suppressing the native culture and what could we expect for such an outrage.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Karzai said it was in line with Islamic law and was written in consultation with Afghan women’s groups. He did not name the groups that were consulted…

Hey Ms. Fluke, here’s a case you might want to get your activist ass on.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

What else did you expect?

kunegetikos on March 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

He’ll be lucky to escape with his head intact IF he stays in Afghanistan, which I doubt.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I’m sure he’s just buying time while he thinks of a strategy for getting the millions he’s ferreted away out of the country. Once that’s done, he’ll probably head for the south of France where he’ll be feted and treated like a king.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I couldn’t help thinking that everything said about Karzai could be said about the current occupant of the White House.

CrazyGene on March 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Hard to believe that a president once sent men and woman to die to liberate a culture like that. And in the end, what came of it?

keep the change on March 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Hey Ms. Fluke, here’s a case you might want to get your activist ass on.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I liked this comment from last night when this was mentioned in the headlines:

The true War on Women the left ignores.

Ben Hur on March 7, 2012 at 11:41 PM

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Lets pull the plug now. Maybe the Taliban will tell Karzai, “No thanks” and hang him in the public square. He sure deserves it.

Bitter Clinger on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

I’m sure he’s just buying time while he thinks of a strategy for getting the millions he’s ferreted away out of the country. Once that’s done, he’ll probably head for the south of France where he’ll be feted and treated like a king.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM

He might bolt for Saudi Arabia, but the South of France is also a big resort spot for runaway chieftains.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Beating one’s wife is prohibited only if there is no “Shariah-compliant reason,” it said, referring to the principles of Islamic law.

Women’s groups up in arms… never.

sammypants on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Shocker…muslims being animals…who would have guessed? Where is the outrage from the leftist feminists? Is that crickets I hear?

Doomsday on March 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

So we should have forced them to write a constitution that we liked and ignored what they were asking for?

Then you Paultards would come here and say that its all blowback for suppressing the native culture and what could we expect for such an outrage.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

We shouldn’t have forced them to do anything. Get in, rout Al Qaeda, then get out. Leave the nation building and governance to the Afghanis.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM

So we should have forced them to write a constitution that we liked and ignored what they were asking for?

Ummm, maybe we shouldn’t have been nation buildig in the first place. The proper response to a savage attack is, wait for it, another savage attack – not a decade’s worth of trillion dollar babysitting.

Then you Paultards would come here and say that its all blowback for suppressing the native culture and what could we expect for such an outrage.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Democracy IS a suprression of their native culture, that’s what you neocons don’t understand: that their is literally NO way to nation build in places where the nation state, let alone any of its finer aspects, is considered an artifical construct.

abobo on March 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Mark Steyn gets it.

Roymunson on March 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Hard to believe that a president once sent men and woman to die to liberate a culture like that. And in the end, what came of it?

keep the change on March 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM

This came of it.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Nuke. Glass.

Dingbat63 on March 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

He might bolt for Saudi Arabia, but the South of France is also a big resort spot for runaway chieftains.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Maybe he’ll just split his time between the two. How was your day? I assume you spent a good part of it downloading Walter Brennan tracks…. :-)

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Has Obama condemned this yet?

Until he does he sides with the Taliban.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Another consequence of Obammy’s “smart power” decision to give a date by which he would cut and run. The Mayor of Kabul is buying time so he can arrange for his escape route.

Wethal on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM

For the life of me, I will never understand why the left is more afraid of Scalia and Santorum than the creeping rushing threat of Islam—both in their violent ways and the way their women are treated.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

We need to leave.

MadisonConservative on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

The lefties are NOT for women or human rights, around the world.

They just stole the terms liberal and progressive.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Nuke. Glass.

Dingbat63 on March 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM

After 25 years of military service I’m drafting a book titled “We Never Kill Enough of ‘EM, the New Argument for Total War”…you’ve already noted how it ends…

Doomsday on March 8, 2012 at 9:54 PM

“It’s just a different culture, you rubes” –Erudite Lefties

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 9:54 PM

For the life of me, I will never understand why the left is more afraid of Scalia and Santorum than the creeping rushing threat of Islam—both in their violent ways and the way their women are treated.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

My government is more of a threat to my life and liberty than Islam or a terrorist is.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Ummm, maybe we shouldn’t have been nation buildig in the first place.

Yeah and…

I know everyone hates us Ro Paul supporters for beig “blame America first” folks, but it really is our fault for writing Shariah law in to their constitution in the first place. But forget I said any of that, apparently blow back of this sort doesn’t happen and when it does we musn’t speak of it.

abobo on March 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM

So you first claim its our fault for “writing Shariah law in to their constitution” and then you say its our fault for even being there at all?

I have no idea why folks think you are blame America first types? Its a real mystery? /

You ARE blame America first leftists and you blame the America for anything and everything. You also consistently ignore nations like Denmark who have been targeted by Muslims but did nothing except allow a newspaper to print cartoons.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

My son enlisted in the Army a few months ago and leaves for training in August, so hopefully by the time he completes Basic, AIT, Jump School, and Ranger School, this dismal expedition will be over.

That place isn’t worth another drop of American blood. The only good thing about it was that our presence gave us the physical proximity to Osama Bin Laden and other members of the Al Qaeda leadership clique who are no longer above ground and sucking air.

troyriser_gopftw on March 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Allahpundit I have a list of family and friends I pray for each day… I am going to put you on my list and pray for you TONIGHT… peace

apocalypse on March 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Our mistake? Decimate, win, go home and dare them to be so stupid again. Should have took a couple of months, we defeated Iraq twice in less time. We’ve won this war dozens of times, and now our best and bravest are getting killed for destroying Operational Security materal. Guns they trained turned on them. It sounds like a fiction novel.

Karzi is making their bed, let them lay in it, especially him.

Hog Wild on March 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

O’Reilly exposed Fluke to be connected to Anita Dunn/Obama, a hired agitator, to change the topic from church/state separation.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

“If you’re not sufficiently enraged and depressed already…”

I can’t help but thinking that 200 years from now…

… some kids are going to be reading this time line in a history book, as a series of events unfold that changes the the world as we have known it.

The next time we elect a Commander in Cheif…

… a job requirement MUST include knowing what the word “Victory” means when ever you ask the men and women of our Military to put their lives on the line.

“Obama: “Victory” is not our “Goal” in Afghanstan.”

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

The Afghanistan War was useless past the first week. Kick the sh*t out of the Taliban and leave. I said at the time that the place had chewed up and worn down every advanced foreign nation that tried to occupy it from Alexander the Great to the British Empire to the Soviets. Now add us to the list.

AngusMc on March 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Unicorns
Sasquatch
Conservative Democrats
Socialist Success Stories
Great Bryan Adams albums
Productive wind farms
AGW
Quality MSNBC programming
Moderate Muslims…

mankai on March 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Maybe he’ll just split his time between the two. How was your day? I assume you spent a good part of it downloading Walter Brennan tracks…. :-)

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM

I am more of a Strother Martin sort of guy. I loved when he was ranting in Rooster Cogburn at the ferry.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

We tried to build a kinda sorta quasi-modern-ish state on a tribalist, mostly illiterate Islamist culture, and here we are.

They progressed, from the 7th to the 11th century.

They kill empires.

May the lefties be first in line.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 10:01 PM

A waste of thousands of lives and limbs.

blatantblue on March 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM

So if karzai supports full blown shariah and our military supports karzai then our military supports full blown shariah. I think that about sums things up.

VorDaj on March 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

They progressed, from the 7th to the 11th century.

They kill empires.

May the lefties be first in line.

Schadenfreude on March 8, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Loved your first line. Unfortunately, due to the lefties and the clueless West we will all suffer. If we prevail over Islam then I propose “liberalism” be outlawed like Germany did with the swastika.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I am more of a Strother Martin sort of guy. I loved when he was ranting in Rooster Cogburn at the ferry.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM

LOL I finally watched the remake of that movie with my Dad the other night. It was pretty good!

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

It’s time to cut our losses and get out. We don’t need to be dying for these people anymore.

Augustine on March 8, 2012 at 10:07 PM

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Progressive believe in the Myth of the Noble Savage. It is essential to their narrative.

batterup on March 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Women’s groups up in arms… never.

sammypants on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM

No men in the West have the balls to stand up to Islam, why should women?

BL@KBIRD on March 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Once a nation of 7th century goat herders, always so.

The only difference is they have 30 years experience fighting “invaders” with RPG’s.

Bush and his legacy…….a complete waste of American blood and treasure. We should have just nuked the country on 9/12/11 and not stopped until the hole was oozing Magma.

But no, we have to fight the PC way……..and bury our dead by the thousands.

PappyD61 on March 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM

LOL I finally watched the remake of that movie with my Dad the other night. It was pretty good!

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

You mean the new True Grit?

I liked it and thought the acting was better but the character interactions weren’t as good as in the original. The ending wasn’t very good and seemed a pointless addition.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Progressive believe in the Myth of the Noble Savage. It is essential to their narrative.

batterup on March 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM

More like a pathetically misplaced belief in the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM

You mean the new True Grit?

I liked it and thought the acting was better but the character interactions weren’t as good as in the original. The ending wasn’t very good and seemed a pointless addition.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I had read that the Coen brothers were following the original novel more closely, but I’ve never read it so I don’t know if the ending is from the book. Of course there is no universe where Jeff Bridges is more appealing than John Wayne.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Start with a lying, thieving, mass-murdering, intolerant, imperialistic, megalomaniacal pedophile warlord and you end up with nothing but … a wonderful Religion of Peace that we must give all respect to.

profitsbeard on March 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I hope Karzai is the first to go but you cab be he and the rest of the corrupt back stabbers will probably be on the first plane out if they know what is good for them.

banzaibob on March 8, 2012 at 10:17 PM

prohibited only if there is no “Shariah-compliant reason,”

In other words, for any reason at all.

IrishEyes on March 8, 2012 at 10:17 PM

This is really going to throw a monkey wrench in the plans for the AFGHAN wing of the Bush Mega Museum and Presidential Library.

Hey Laura Bush how did that women’s literacy thingy work out in Afcrapistan?

Ugh. Think of all the Americans that died in that hellhole.

Disgusting waste.

PappyD61 on March 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

So you first claim its our fault for “writing Shariah law in to their constitution” and then you say its our fault for even being there at all?

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM

He didn’t say it was our fault for being there at all. He said we shouldn’t have engaged in nation building, and he was right.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I had read that the Coen brothers were following the original novel more closely, but I’ve never read it so I don’t know if the ending is from the book.

Its a movie, not a book. They can’t be told the same way so no point in slavishly following the original source.

Of course there is no universe where Jeff Bridges is more appealing than John Wayne.

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM

True that, but he did it well but mumbled too much and didn’t seem to have a connection with the girl (who was amazing).

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Has anyone gotten RPaul’s take on this development?

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Very often, when dealing with a primitive people, it is best to deliver ones message in simple, blunt and unequivocal fashion. In a very sharply defined and breathtakingly violent moment, reduce the county’s largest city to a pile of smoking ashes and then simply walk silently away.
Tailor the message to the audience. Never waste words on illiterates, and never waste nuance on goatherds.

Lew on March 8, 2012 at 10:23 PM

He is a deeply flawed ally who helped keep AQ from using his country as a base for further attacks on our country. I give him that. Still, what a mess. I guess it’s too much to hope we pound the Haqqani network and get Dr. Z before we leave.

Christien on March 8, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Has anyone gotten RPaul’s take on this development?

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Yes.

Its our fault!

Now what was the question?” – Ron Paul

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Its a movie, not a book. They can’t be told the same way so no point in slavishly following the original source.

True that, but he did it well but mumbled too much and didn’t seem to have a connection with the girl (who was amazing).

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Actually, the 1969 movie starring John Wayne was based on a 1968 novel by Charles Portis…. The girl was very good and very brave. I don’t think that at that age I would have wanted to appear as homely as that on camera!

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

7th century barbarians..all of them..He tried our hardest to change them but it’s obvious we can’t do it with guns and man power..Only the one true God , not the false god Allah, can change their hearts and minds

sadsushi on March 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Surely you don’t support our disastrous foreign policy, do you?

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Yes.

“Its our fault!

Now what was the question?” – Ron Paul

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

LOL Googling “Ron Paul” & “says I told you so” yields 19,000 results!

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

We need to just leave, and when we’re safely out of country…no more money. For anything in that country. No humanitarian aid, no food aid…nothing.

Then we use our technology to burn the opium crop every year.

schmuck281 on March 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

I wonder if this clown can escape to any of the Crapistan “nations” with his hide. He’ll probably take all of the money he stole from us and go to Switzerland. Scumbag, thief and liar.

Philly on March 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Actually, the 1969 movie starring John Wayne was based on a 1968 novel by Charles Portis….

I know that. What I meant is that a movie and a book are different mediums for telling a story and you can’t directly translate one to the other and if you try it ends up hurting the final product.

The girl was very good and very brave. I don’t think that at that age I would have wanted to appear as homely as that on camera!

cynccook on March 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Homely? I thought she was charming. Her acting was superb I just wish that her and Jeff Bridges had developed more of the close interaction Wayne and the girl did in the 1969 movie.

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Why are we spending one more penny, one more drop of blood, one more minute on these primitive animals? The government and people of Afghanistan are unworthy of American protection and sacrifice. We should exit tomorrow and leave them to their savagery.

Cursed be Afghanistan.

NealK on March 8, 2012 at 10:29 PM

We need to just leave, and when we’re safely out of country…no more money. For anything in that country. No humanitarian aid, no food aid…nothing.

Then we use our technology to burn the opium crop every year.

schmuck281 on March 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

YES. And salt the earth on our way out the door.

Cursed be Afghanistan.

NealK on March 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

As soon as we leave, Karzai and his entire family will be immigrating to the U.S.

slp on March 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Anyone who knows the history of Afghanistan knew that we could never “nation build” and turn them into a democratic society. Their tribal backwardness is thousands of years old, Alexander the Great complained about it and he sure didn’t have rules of engagement or Qurans to deal with.

As soon as the Taliban were forced out, we should have left right behind them. Instead, thousands of our guys are dead and wounded, for nothing.

Now, we should immediately pull every last American out of the country. No trade, no aid. If we get any threat from them in the future, then we bomb the crap out of them, no more blood for ungrateful primitives.

Common Sense on March 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

War on Women, anyone?

J.E. Dyer on March 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

hopefully it will still be ok to drop walls on the gays….after all, we must respect their ‘culture’ from racist white fascist concepts concerning human dignity, human rights and freedom….

of course the feminists are all over this because of their sterling record of evincing concern for the rights of females under sharia law.

islamists aren’t considered ‘ nobel savages’- their views are the product of so called ‘civilization’, the same civilization that gave us judaism and christianity. they’re ‘people of the book’, the bible, in which all their death penalty for showing your ankle crap is taken. many of the major parts of sharia law non-muslims in a secular democracy find so offensive and ‘ savage’ are in the old testament.

most modern anthropological studies have discarded the romantic notion of the ‘ nobel savage’ as just that- a romantic notion.

and it’s probably the likes of margaret mead that has allowed for the modern push for public/governmental intrusion into the private lives of citizens. because we’re not nobel savages at birth- we’re depraved monsters that require constant government and societal intrusion in our lives-our environmental overlords thus have to shape us.mead’s flawed studies- now rejected but curiously never totally relegated to the trash heap of bad ‘science’- are the basis for much of the liberal intrusion and encroachment upon our freedoms. and also mead gave rise to the cultural relativsim that is destroying us and our morality. blankin’ anthropologists.

mittens on March 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Islam; Hitlers model.

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Bow many of our young men & women are now facing a lifetime living with missing limbs or other infirmities, for NOTHING??????

Our leaders have once again, failed us. And “Liberals” everywhere will blame Boooooooosh(!!!) even though this falls squarely onto our Congress and current President.

I’m straight pissed reading this.

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Behold the mind numbing power of pigment…….thats all that matters!

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Bow many of our young men & women are now facing a lifetime living with missing limbs or other infirmities, for NOTHING??????

Our leaders have once again, failed us. And “Liberals” everywhere will blame Boooooooosh(!!!) even though this falls squarely onto our Congress and current President.

I’m straight pissed reading this.

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

You’re absolutely right to be enraged, but if it makes you feel any better, remember that many of the ungrateful Afghan primitives we leave behind will die screaming shortly after our departure.

NealK on March 8, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I’m so tired of my country coddling 3rd world cesspit mud-hut dwelling barbaric blood thirsty savages perpetually stuck in the 16th century. Can we just leave the entire Middle-East region to implode and cannibalize itself now? Please?

*Of course we can still help to defend the only civilized country in the entire region but we can do that from the sea and the air.

FlatFoot on March 8, 2012 at 11:19 PM

You’re absolutely right to be enraged, but if it makes you feel any better, remember that many of the ungrateful Afghan primitives we leave behind will die screaming shortly after our departure.

NealK on March 8, 2012 at 11:08 PM

It doesn’t make me feel better though. Those who will be victimized when we leave are probably mostly decent, normal people just wanting to make their backwards, impoverished country a better place.

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Behold the mind numbing power of pigment…….thats all that matters!

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

You had better not be implying what I think you are.

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Far too many brave young men and women shed their blood and lost their lives to give the people of Afghanistan a chance at a future and this is what they do with it? Fine, let them have their crappy little stone age country.

Shadow on March 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I’m stating that anything, anywhere thats anti american rules…….we give ground just because our enemies don’t look like us…….regardless of their stated intent.

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:38 PM

I’m stating that anything, anywhere thats anti american rules…….we give ground just because our enemies don’t look like us…….regardless of their stated intent.

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:38 PM

And what, if anything, does my pigment have to do with that?!?!?!?

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:44 PM

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:44 PM

It doesn’t other than your whining shows how thin your skin is…we all bleed Red…don’t we?

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:47 PM

And what, if anything, does my pigment have to do with that?!?!?!?

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:44 PM

You can’t be serious? Why did everyone get upset with South Africa and sit on their hands while millions were slaughtered in the Congo and Rwanda? Dozens of African countries were far more savage and brutal than South Africa ever thought of being and not a chirp from either side of the political aisle. Why the outrage over Israel but 10,000 Syrians are slaughtered in the Homs massacre and complete silence? We attack Serbia and stand by while Muslim Kosovars do the same while our soldiers watch?

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM

I have one close friend who lost a Marine son to an IED and another who lost a grandson to fatal burns after a RPG attack on his vehicle.
The families will never completely recover from the losses. How infuriating it is to now know their deaths were for nothing.

a capella on March 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM

It doesn’t other than your whining shows how thin your skin is…we all bleed Red…don’t we?

dmann on March 8, 2012 at 11:47 PM

You think I’m WHINING when I point out how many of our young men and women are now missing limbs, or WORSE for NOTHING?!?!?! You think my SKIN makes my opinion invalid?!?!?!

There aren’t words for how angry I am with you right now!

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:55 PM

You can’t be serious? Why did everyone get upset with South Africa and sit on their hands while millions were slaughtered in the Congo and Rwanda? Dozens of African countries were far more savage and brutal than South Africa ever thought of being and not a chirp from either side of the political aisle. Why the outrage over Israel but 10,000 Syrians are slaughtered in the Homs massacre and complete silence? We attack Serbia and stand by while Muslim Kosovars do the same while our soldiers watch?

sharrukin on March 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM

What are you blathering about?!?!?!

OUR men & women have been sacrificed in Afghanistan for NOTHING! What does Congo, Rwanda or Serbia have to do with ANY OF THIS?!?!?!?!

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Our leaders have once again, failed us. And “Liberals” everywhere will blame Boooooooosh(!!!) even though this falls squarely onto our Congress and current President.

I’m straight pissed reading this.

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

No. It falls squarely on Bush’s shoulders. He’s the one who began this nation building nonsense.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Islam is pure evil.

Some in it most likely have no idea of how evil it is.

I just pray for the day to come when God destroys them all.

Steveangell on March 9, 2012 at 12:02 AM

OUR men & women have been sacrificed in Afghanistan for NOTHING! What does Congo, Rwanda or Serbia have to do with ANY OF THIS?!?!?!?!

KMC1 on March 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM

You were asking about race and politics and how that effects what is going on in Afghanistan? Well it does. Far too often politically correct nonsense is used in dealing with Muslims or third world hostiles due to the cultural sensitivities domestically.

sharrukin on March 9, 2012 at 12:02 AM

No. It falls squarely on Bush’s shoulders. He’s the one who began this nation building nonsense.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 11:59 PM

That’s terribly simplistic don’t you think?!?! Or did we stop being a democratic republic and become a monarchy?!?!?!

KMC1 on March 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM

You were asking about race and politics and how that effects what is going on in Afghanistan? Well it does. Far too often politically correct nonsense is used in dealing with Muslims or third world hostiles due to the cultural sensitivities domestically.

sharrukin on March 9, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Go back and read what was posted this time, then get back to me.

KMC1 on March 9, 2012 at 12:04 AM

No. It falls squarely on Bush’s shoulders. He’s the one who began this nation building nonsense.

Dante on March 8, 2012 at 11:59 PM

That’s terribly simplistic don’t you think?!?! Or did we stop being a democratic republic and become a monarchy?!?!?!

KMC1 on March 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM

First rule of war understand your enemy.

Bush obviously had no idea what his enemy was. Let alone understood him.

Islam is NOT a peaceful religion.

Yes Bush is to blame for this. He bought into CAIR instead of really figuring out about Islam.

Steveangell on March 9, 2012 at 12:06 AM

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