Mitt Romney: It’s not like the president can “precisely set the price at the pump”

posted at 12:10 pm on March 7, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Yesterday, Mitt Romney said he’s “not going to say outrageous things about the president.” Trouble with that statement is that “outrageous” is a pretty subjective adjective. Outrageous to whom? Apparently, Romney meant to say he’s not going to say anything about the president that would outrage the left — because he doesn’t seem to be afraid to say something about the president that would outrage the right. In fact, he did just that earlier today, when he essentially said the president shouldn’t be held responsible for the high price of gas.

“I think people recognize that the president can’t precisely set the price at the pump,” Romney said in an interview on CNBC.

Oh, Romney, you’re right technically — but don’t you realize that precisely setting the price at the pump is also precisely what Obama longs to do? He wants to set the price of gas not so as to alleviate the burden on American consumers but so as to make his favored forms of energy more economically appealing to them.

In an excellent article in National Review magazine this month, Kevin D. Williamson illuminates this clearly. Williamson writes:

As it happens, the Obama administration has been busily undermining domestic energy production in the United States, because its central-planning manifesto says that the U.S. economy should cease to run on petroleum and begin to run on other forms of energy: wind, hydro, geothermal — air, water, and earth being the favored elements, fire being in the political doghouse. (Like I said: occultism.) In his latest budget proposal, President Obama proposes to continue offering tax benefits to U.S. manufacturers in the hope of increasing exports, but he intends to exclude from that benefit energy firms — which just happen to be positioned to export a great deal of natural gas to a world market hungry for the stuff …

So we are to double our exports, which were going to double anyway, but we’re to do so by favoring goods that nobody wants and that are not made here … over goods that are made here that everybody wants and that just happen to fall into the category of goods that represent the majority of our trade deficit.

That’s the trouble with Romney’s pledge: If he’s unwilling to unmask the president for who and what he is, he doesn’t stand a chance in November. Nobody is asking him to take cheap shots: We’re just asking him to not give the president the benefit of the doubt when the president’s purposes are pretty clear.

In the CNBC interview, Romney went on to point out many of the facts of Obama’s energy policies and noted their detrimental effects. Why the disclaimer that Obama shouldn’t be held responsible for gas prices then? What does that disclaimer accomplish? It’s one thing to refrain from insulting those with differing views in polite conversation and to avoid ad hominem attacksthose are just the rules of debate and also happen to help the debater who abides by them. It’s another to affect to be blind to reality for the sake of scoring points with those who want to obscure reality for the sake of Obama’s reelection — that just makes it that much easier for Obama to convince the electorate that he and his cadre of experts do know what’s best for them and that he should be given the chance to do it.


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I am getting the impression from Romney, he doesn’t really want our votes anyway.

Dr Evil on March 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Well, he’ll probably corral those elusive independents. People with no convictions tend to flock together.

katy the mean old lady on March 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Hmmm. revenge of the striky

katy the mean old lady on March 7, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Romney told the truth. The President doesn’t set the price at the pump for gasoline on a daily basis. He then went on in the interview to delineate several ways in which the President CAN affect the price of gasoline.

Its interesting to note how often those, even the bloggers here on HA, who demand exactitude and contextual accuity from everyone else in the media, find themselves suddenly coming up short on the same issue. Its also interesting how often any pretense to objectivity is cast by the wayside by these same individuals.

This is exactly why I don’t take anyone’s word or opinion on what happened or what was actually said in any given instance. I read many news sources and blogs to try and winnow out as much opinion and spin as I can and get down to the facts. Generally, if you read every source that you can find, even the oppositions sources, and then disregard everything that doesn’t match up with the majority of the sources taken in total, you get a clearer and cleaner report of what actually transpired. Frankly, I miss the days of reporting when WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY made the news, sources cited, and the opinion and editorial was left to the op-ed page. However, since journalism is in the sorry state that it is, and because so much is relegated and/or delegated to the blogs these days, I include HA in my reading list as one useful tool among many.

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

O/T: I haven’t heard much about Breitbart the past few days as far as has there been a funeral or memorial service. Anyone know?

silvernana on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

OT .. Let the games begin !!

breitbart’s Obama video coming out tonight !!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/07/buzzefeed-selectively-edits-obama-tape

pambi on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Informed voters? LOL. This is the problem with Mittbots. You people think the average voter knows anything. They don’t. They know what the MSM tells them. And the MSM will be telling them Romney said Obama can’t control gas prices.

angryed on March 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I remember this argument from the Palin threads.

“The MSM are saying bad things about her, voters believe the MSM, therefore she is damaged goods.”

It was an excuse then, it is an excuse now.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Well, he’ll probably corral those elusive independents. People with no convictions tend to flock together.katy the mean old lady on March 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I try to flock katy, really I do. That’s flock not to be confused with fluke ;) I don’t think Romney wants my vote either! I guess he’s counting on that big disaffected democrats demographic LOL!

Dr Evil on March 7, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The presidents policy does “set the price”, if he says no more drilling, than the price goes up…if he stated we are going to go balls to the wall and drill everywhere there is oil, the price will drop.
It’s that simple, it’s called supply and demand, a pretty simple concept that seems to escape the masterful economic genius named Mitt Romney.
This is what happens when he thinks he has it sewn up, he let’s his true self, true beliefs come out…cap and trade, global warming, don’t drill, don’t mess with the status quo…and do not, under any circumstances, allow any wall street investor lose money, like in commodities such as oil…and do not upset lobbyists…good grief.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM

the president can’t precisely set the price at the pump

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…but he can order the Fed to perform Quantitative Easing, that devalues the dollar enough to make gas prices skyrocket.
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…IIRC, gas was over $100/barrel and gas prices were cresting $3/gallon. Gas prices are now in the same area (~$100/barrel), and gas is cresting the $5 mark.

askwhatif on March 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

O/T: I haven’t heard much about Breitbart the past few days as far as has there been a funeral or memorial service. Anyone know?

silvernana on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I believe it’s this afternoon, in LA

askwhatif on March 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM

The presidents policy does “set the price”, if he says no more drilling, than the price goes up…if he stated we are going to go balls to the wall and drill everywhere there is oil, the price will drop.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Precisely, at what price will it goes up to at the pump ,and goes down to in either one of your scenarios? Keep it to the nearest cent.

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM

All Bush had to do in the summer of 2008 was announce he was lifting the ban on offshore drilling and the price of oil immediately dropped $6 a barrel. This is without having to do any actual drilling or get any Democrats to do anything.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Thank you. I’m trying to verify this. Can you help me with a link?

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM

the president can’t precisely set the price at the pump

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…but he can order the Fed to perform Quantitative Easing, that devalues the dollar enough to make gas prices skyrocket.
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…IIRC, gas was over $100/barrel and gas prices were cresting $3/gallon. Gas prices are now in the same area (~$100/barrel), and gas is cresting the $5 mark.

askwhatif on March 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Thank you, and you would think out of all the candidates, Mr get rid of the Fed- Ron Paul would at least mention this.

Dr Evil on March 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

All Bush had to do in the summer of 2008 was announce he was lifting the ban on offshore drilling and the price of oil immediately dropped $6 a barrel. This is without having to do any actual drilling or get any Democrats to do anything.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM

But at what price did GWB set the price of a gallon of gas at at the pump at that time?

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

BRIETBART: Now, MORE POWERFUL than anyone can possibly imagine!Many citizens are motivated to push back on Team Obama and his cultural Stormtroopers: This includes a Hollywood producer and a freelance journalist giving “Managing Media” lessons. We apparently will have to do the work Team Romney does not want to do.

Mutnodjmet on March 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Thank you. I’m trying to verify this. Can you help me with a link?

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Here you go

Trying to find a good link for Eric Bolling who makes that case that it dropped $33 in the 6 months following the offshore drilling ban lift.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I remember this argument from the Palin threads.

“The MSM are saying bad things about her, voters believe the MSM, therefore she is damaged goods.”

It was an excuse then, it is an excuse now.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:46 PM

This!!!! Mittness is damaged goods and the people will believe it on election day. We need a brokered convention more than ever to nominate a conservative. Mittness can’t win.

AH_C on March 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

First look at Obama/Romney 2012?

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

You are so right. Tina took Romney right out of context. THe headline quote wasn’t even the full sentence that he uttered, and he followed it up with a completely honest yet aggressive condemnation of Obama’s policies. If Romney has to pander to the anger of people who think that he, or any other president, can wave a wand and outlaw abortion, set gas prices, or unilaterally overturn legislation in order to get the HA editors to “like” him…well, unfortunately, that is not going happen.

Priscilla on March 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

By the way, if Mitt said the exact same thing that I did, you may want to inform your fellow Mitt supporter Gelsomina–he seems to think I’m incorrect which of course would make Mitt incorrect.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Okay, so I am obviously wrong and glad to admit it. But what’s your problem with Romney’s statement?

I’m a she, BTW.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Is it me, or did Romney end that sound bite with “my friends?”

beatcanvas on March 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

This!!!! Mittness is damaged goods and the people will believe it on election day. We need a brokered convention more than ever to nominate a conservative. Mittness can’t win.

AH_C on March 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

But Palin isn’t damaged goods. She’s as influential as she always was.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM

But at what price did GWB set the price of a gallon of gas at at the pump at that time?

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Dunno. Do you mind quoting where I said Bush or any other president has the ability to set a specific price? All I said was that a president’s policies have an immediate impact on the price of gas.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM

I guess I’m missing something here, can the president set the price at the pump? would we want him to? All he can do is set energy policy, and from that policy the market will react.

Are we making more of this yhan needs be?

Tater Salad on March 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Thank you. I’m trying to verify this. Can you help me with a link?

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM

ITguy posted this awhile back, and I’d saved it for FB friends.
The LINK part (Source) didn’t work after I did, but someone who knows how to search HA should be able to find this again.

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July 14, 2008:
President Bush lifted an executive order banning offshore oil drilling, and urged Congress to follow suit.

September 16, 2008:
The U.S. House of Representatives approved on a 236-189 vote legislation that would open waters 50 miles off the Pacific and Atlantic coasts to oil and natural gas development.

September 27, 2008:
The U.S. Senate by a 78-12 vote eliminated a 27 year ban on offshore drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the United States.

And what effect did those three things have on gas prices?

U.S. city average price of unleaded regular gasoline

July 2008: $4.090 per gallon

December 2008: $1.689 per gallon

Source

Gas prices dropped more than 50% (almost 60%) in just five months!

Then what has happened under the Obama administration?
More restrictions on drilling, and higher prices.

ITguy on February 23, 2012 at 8:11 PM
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pambi on March 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Informed voters? LOL. This is the problem with Mittbots. You people think the average voter knows anything. They don’t. They know what the MSM tells them. And the MSM will be telling them Romney said Obama can’t control gas prices.

angryed on March 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I remember this argument from the Palin threads.

“The MSM are saying bad things about her, voters believe the MSM, therefore she is damaged goods.”

It was an excuse then, it is an excuse now.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 2:46 PM

It’s reality, so thanks for making the point. It would be good if he didn’t help them.

There’s only so much time. Palin’s image and damage can be rehabilitated, but it doesn’t have to be done by November.

kim roy on March 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM

ATTENTION SANTORUM CAMPAIGN.

Mitt is going to go wobbly on this Obama Video and the base is going to see how WEAK MITT IS.

Contrast Mitt and lay into Obama!!!!!!

PappyD61 on March 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM

OT .. Let the games begin !!

breitbart’s Obama video coming out tonight !!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/07/buzzefeed-selectively-edits-obama-tape

pambi on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I hope this happens and there is no way to spin it.

Conservative4ev on March 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Tina,

The MSM called and they want to thank you for doing their dirty hack job for them. Well done

Minnfidel on March 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Man, he’s weak!

BillCarson on March 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Meet the new McCain, same as the old McCain.

http://www.mehromney.com

carbon_footprint on March 7, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Do they make yard signs? /

Night Owl on March 7, 2012 at 2:02 PM

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Hey thats cute ! –
Make sure you send that to the DNC so they can use it in November – lets give them all the ammo we can…..
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But I have a question for you ABRs with your mantra -”Romney Sucks” – If he does suck and your guy STILL doesn’t get close to the votes Romney has gotten (sans St. Newt in GA) WHAT does that make your then ? Negative Sucks ? C’mon if you can’t beat the front runner- and he sucks- then your guy sucks worse, severely worse.

FlaMurph on March 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM

That’s the trouble with Romney’s pledge: If he’s unwilling to unmask the president for who and what he is, he doesn’t stand a chance in November. Nobody is asking him to take cheap shots: We’re just asking him to not give the president the benefit of the doubt when the president’s purposes are pretty clear.

Tina Korbe on Mar 7, 2012 12:10 PM

Romney will never truly go after Obama because Romney is part of that click… part of that evil group known as the Washington establishment that protects the Washington establishment at all costs. There will never be CHANGE with BHO or WMR you stupid jerks

apocalypse on March 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Its interesting to note how often those, even the bloggers here on HA, who demand exactitude and contextual accuity from everyone else in the media, find themselves suddenly coming up short on the same issue. Its also interesting how often any pretense to objectivity is cast by the wayside by these same individuals.

Some blogs are playing a dangerous game of “Cripple the Frontrunner.” No stone is left unturned in an effort to take out Romney. These are the same people who recoiled in horror at the candidacy of Rudy Giuliani back in the day when he was leading in every poll except among social conservatives. Same crowd of moralizing populists. They’re at it again, super-sensitive to Romney’s flaws, blind to Santorum’s. No use trying to reason with these people since they don’t seem to give a damn about winning per se.

writeblock on March 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Rush isn’t trying to convince people to vote for him. Romney is and it doesn’t help to give your opponent a soundbite cover.

The media is dishonest and lies. You think they’re going to make it easy for people to find out the whole quote?

Why do people willfully want to forget this???? Romney’s entire message should only be “Obama’s an idiot, raised your gas prices, increased your debt and increased unemployment”. He doesn’t need to say anything else.

kim roy on March 7, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Rush says he is trying to position for himself so he can advocate for whomever the Republican candidate is. His words undermined his own triangulation. For someone claiming to be in literalville, he doesn’t sound like one.

The Media will come out against any Republican candidate, lie, smear, distort. That is a given. So why do you do it to?

Who has injured Romney more? The Democrats, or TruPopulists?

antisense on March 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Do you mind quoting where I said Bush or any other president has the ability to set a specific price? All I said was that a president’s policies have an immediate impact on the price of gas.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM

The thread was invitation for attacks at Romney because he said ( in a sentence cut up in the middle with purpose to distort) a president cannot precisely set the price of a gallon of gas at the pump. I was using your example to show that energy policy can have an effect, bu would not set the price at the retail gas pump level. Romney made talked at length in that CNBC appearance what he like to accomplish in the energy front and Barry energy policy had been a failure.

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

OT .. Let the games begin !!

breitbart’s Obama video coming out tonight !!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/07/buzzefeed-selectively-edits-obama-tape

pambi on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

What? How dare you divert attention from Romney stating an incredibly obvious fact that apparently has driven a few people into a wild frothing frenzy. The Breitbart tapes are nothing more than a brazen attempt to focus on taking down Obama; we need to be really focused on creating a huge crisis from everything – no matter how trivial – Mitt says or does! Harummph!!

whatcat on March 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

pambi on March 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Thank you. I looked it up. The oil prices dropped because the demand dropped.

After gasoline prices soared above $4 a gallon earlier this year, oil demand in the United States dropped over the summer. Consumption fell by 1.8 million barrels a day, or 8 percent, to 19.3 million barrels a day in August, compared with the same period a year ago, according to the latest monthly estimates from the Energy Department.

As a result, refineries ran at their slowest pace in 21 years in August, typically one of the busiest months of the year. At the same time, inventories of crude oil kept building at a steady clip, suggesting there was more oil in the market than needed.

But as one of the resident Romneybots I’m not going to contradict him when he says that the President has a certain influence on gas prices.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

About 0.25% of the country will have watched this video. About 70% will have read a headline that says “ROMNEY DOESN’T BLAME OBAMA FOR HIGH GAS PRICES”

angryed on March 7, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Again, by your logic a Republican will literally never win the election, because the MSM controls the sound bite narrative and will do the same thing to any Republican candidate. Looks like it’s time to form a new party!

Kriggly on March 7, 2012 at 3:27 PM

But at what price did GWB set the price of a gallon of gas at the pump at that time?

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

lol priceless…

jimver on March 7, 2012 at 3:29 PM

July 2008: $4.090 per gallon

December 2008: $1.689 per gallon

Source

Gas prices dropped more than 50% (almost 60%) in just five months!

So did your portfolio-
as well as your home value-
as well as raw materials -

I don’t think off shore drilling can claim those depreciation as well.

FlaMurph on March 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Romney clearly stated that Obama’s policies are linked to high gas prices. I mean you’re stretching what he’s saying to sound as if he wasn’t attacking Obama’s energy policies.

cpaulus on March 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Some blogs are playing a dangerous game of “Cripple the Frontrunner.” No stone is left unturned in an effort to take out Romney. These are the same people who recoiled in horror at the candidacy of Rudy Giuliani back in the day when he was leading in every poll except among social conservatives. Same crowd of moralizing populists. They’re at it again, super-sensitive to Romney’s flaws, blind to Santorum’s. No use trying to reason with these people since they don’t seem to give a damn about winning per se.

writeblock on March 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

yep, the irrational bunch who parses every word Romney says, but gives passes for the sweeping generalizations and/or logical fallacies and/or utter gaffes and nonsenses that their candidates of choice come up with…as long as it satisfies their basic need for red meat…

jimver on March 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM

jimver on March 7, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Shhh… you’ll startle the herd.

Andrew D on March 7, 2012 at 3:40 PM

O/T: I haven’t heard much about Breitbart the past few days as far as has there been a funeral or memorial service. Anyone know?

silvernana on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Ace, over at AoSHQ, attended the funeral yesterday. Here’s a short post that he wrote.

Gladtobehere on March 7, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Wow, Romney is starting off even earlier than McCain did with the Obama a**kissing. And some of you believe in this spineless clown?

Loser. You know it..you’ve made a mistake, Romney supporters. We’re all going to be punished with a second Obama term because you’re nominating a spineless RINO loser. But, I’ll give you this, he does have great hair. It’s not going to save him but he’ll look majestic as the waves wash over his campaign.

austinnelly on March 7, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Two hours was all it took for news stories to come out with that as a headline.

I noticed the Mittbots got awful quiet.

CycloneCDB on March 7, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Maybe they all ran over to the Hill to explain to them how you can’t just take someone’s words out of context, you just can’t!

Night Owl on March 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM

This is getting really ridiculous, Tina. You’re whining.

The President doesn’t set precise prices at the pump. FACT. Deal with it. Sorry you can’t find any propaganda value in that truth, but you’ll just have to get over it.

Romney holds Obama accountable regularly for the prices at the pump. Presidents don’t set precise prices [aka Newt's laughable assertions about being able to pinpoint the gas price at $2.50 per gallon!] but they do set energy policy and that is what Obama has done. He told us he would raise energy costs,–they would “skyrocket”–and so they have!

So, get over your CHEESY WHINE. There are far more important things that need focus:

Do you even realize what Obama’s doing, and why he’s doing this? I’m talking about the fact that Obama’s having a very hard time raising money from Wall Street. So he’s come up with a plan to pander for money; and as usual, it will cost the taxpayers:

Obama Unveils New J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bailout Plan, Disguised as Mortgage Relief

“…the plan is sure to be “broadly positive” for Obama’s reelection chances, and “broadly negative” for taxpayers who will no doubt end up footing the bill, perhaps in more ways than one.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/03/obama-unveils-new-jp-morgan-wells-fargo.html

mountainaires on March 7, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Just when I was slowly making peace with the idea that Mittens is probably be going to be the only viable option to 0bama…

MidniteRambler on March 7, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Some blogs are playing a dangerous game of “Cripple the Frontrunner.” No stone is left unturned in an effort to take out Romney.

writeblock on March 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

No, some blogs are accurately reporting a hilarious gaffe that makes Romney look like the liberal weakling he is. The conservative blogs don’t need to “take out” Romney. He’s busy doing that to himself.

It’s time to face facts. Mitt Romney just isn’t very bright. Rick Perry’s gaffes were nowhere NEAR this level – Romney trips over his own feet every single time he opens his mouth. If his handlers have any brains at all, they’ll muzzle him for the rest of the campaign and make sure he sticks to reading speeches, since apparently that’s all he’s bright enough to do.

Doomberg on March 7, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Okay, so the price dropped because consumption (demand) dropped, resulting in an oversupply.

So what about today’s marketplace? Economists are concerned because Americans have already dropped consumption but yet the price keeps rising.

This is one of my biggest beefs with Democrats–they introduce artificial forces into the marketplace so the market doesn’t follow normal trends, much like damming a river(flow of capital) from the center outwards. The water will always go somewhere, but no one can predict where. I have always believed that some of it gets siphoned off into the pockets of the engineers while they are busy “helping us” by solving the problems they have created.

rwenger43 on March 7, 2012 at 4:01 PM

There have been a number of candidates this season who have made very accurate comments but they were easily misrepresented by the press and as a result were made to look bad. Yes, Romney was quite accurate in what he said but the 7 second sound bite the media will use will make it look like he supports Obama on this issue.

A good number of you have rightly pointed out that both Newt and Santorum needed to guard their tongues when talking to the press or where the press were present. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Romney made an optical blunder with this statement. He is the one that didn’t think through the optics of the statement.

chemman on March 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Mitt Romney: It’s not like the president can “precisely set the price at the pump”

No, but his dingbat Socialist policies can be fought that add to the instability that leads to the rise in prices.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Are the folks complaining about Mittens comments even see the whole video? Or are you just following Tina’s headline as the whole story? Watch the video. It was a solid repudiation of Obama’s failed policies and done very well I might add. But that doesn’t fit your anti Mitt narrative nor Tina’s. And before you yell “Romneybot” or “paid shill” instead of discussing the WHOLE video. Please know that I am neither. Romney was my 3rd choice. I think he’s the best of the remaining 3, which while sad is the reality on the ground. I’m not excited about him but helping the MSM do their lazy hitjobs is reprehensible.

Minnfidel on March 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Bla bla Bla
Mitt put me fast to sleep how boring he is. Does he think he is in a Board Room?

Not one attack on Obama. Not a single one. He must be in love with Obama and in hate with Santorum and Gingrich he has no problem attacking them.

Mitt is far worse than McCain was and doing way worse in the nomination fight.

Steveangell on March 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

If the price of gas was below $1.90 a gallon when Barry took office in 2008, isn’t Newt’s $2.50 a gallon energy policy kind of weak?

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Okay, so the price dropped because consumption (demand) dropped, resulting in an oversupply.

So what about today’s marketplace? Economists are concerned because Americans have already dropped consumption but yet the price keeps rising.

rwenger43 on March 7, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Good point. Something else to ponder: Since The United States has more untapped oil reserves than the entire Middle East if the president were to aggressively pursue tapping those reserves, wouldn’t we be completely unaffected by anything going on in the ME? Iran could close the Straight of Hormuz and we could just point and laugh, hell the entire ME could be waging nuclear war against each other and we’d be fine. To say nothing of the jobs and wealth that would be created here.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM

I agree with those of you who say that this is a nothingburger, when it’s based on the whole of his comments, and not just the one taken out of context. I do have to ask why the Mittbots don’t use those same standards when we’re talking about an out of context remark by one of the other candidates. When Newt or Rick or Ron say something equally cringe-inducing, they scream about how it’s going to hurt the GOP. You can’t have it both ways, folks.

JannyMae on March 7, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Mitt put me fast to sleep how boring he is. Does he think he is in a Board Room?

Not one attack on Obama. Not a single one

Steveangell on March 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM

??? Go back to bed. You didn’t watch the video.

Buttercup on March 7, 2012 at 4:18 PM

But I have a question for you ABRs with your mantra -”Romney Sucks” – If he does suck and your guy STILL doesn’t get close to the votes Romney has gotten (sans St. Newt in GA) WHAT does that make your then ? Negative Sucks ? C’mon if you can’t beat the front runner- and he sucks- then your guy sucks worse, severely worse.

FlaMurph on March 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Something I’ve noticed about you pro-Romney’s, explaining something over and over has absolutely no effect. You just ignore it and stick to your same talking points. I’m not saying that in a mean way, I’m just saying it is pointless to even discuss this anymore. No matter what Romney says or does, no one is allowed to question it without being called names. Please don’t make the focus of this comment that other people do it too. That is not the point of your question. Anonymous internet name calling doesn’t hurt my feelings in the least, but it doesn’t help your cause, yet you can’t stop yourselves from doing it. So it makes me wonder what it is you people really want.

I agree with northdallasthirty who said what you really want is to rid the republican party of evangelicals, conservatives, TEA party supporters, pretty much everyone but the moderate/liberal members of the party. As far as I’m concerned, you are going to get your wish. If Romney is the nominee, I am changing my party registration to independent. I feel completely absolved of any responsibility for what happens in November because of the many times I have been insulted and told that independents and moderates are more important than me. You make the assumption that we have no place else to go, which is just as insulting as the way democrats treat black people. I think the fact that you are willing to bet the farm on that makes you all very unrealistic, but that’s just me. Could turn out that you are right, in which case you’ll get your way in the end anyway, Romney will win without a lot of the people who helped make 2010 a banner year for republicans. Good luck with that.

Night Owl on March 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Of course nor Mitt. Obama can’t do anything precisely except destroy the country. While you at it Mitt why don’t you come up with some more excuses for his sorry ass? Mr Electable, what a pathetic joke.

bgibbs1000 on March 7, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Well, well, well. Romney acting every bit as progressive as Obama.

I’m shocked!

newtopia on March 7, 2012 at 4:22 PM

So now that gas prices, Obamacare and the Economy are off the table, just what exactly is Romney running against Obama on?

newtopia on March 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

So what about today’s marketplace? Economists are concerned because Americans have already dropped consumption but yet the price keeps rising.

This is one of my biggest beefs with Democrats–they introduce artificial forces into the marketplace so the market doesn’t follow normal trends, much like damming a river(flow of capital) from the center outwards. The water will always go somewhere, but no one can predict where. I have always believed that some of it gets siphoned off into the pockets of the engineers while they are busy “helping us” by solving the problems they have created.

rwenger43 on March 7, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I agree with you about the mistake of trying to control markets. That’s what Hayek is all about.

Here’s the EIA 2012 outlook for crude oil prices with a reason for the high prices: “Supply disruptions in the Middle East and Africa contributed to a significant increase in world crude oil prices during February.”

Here is another one. It’s much more complicated and globally affected than we hear from the candidates. It doesn’t fit an a 30 second soundbite.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Lol, Mittbots as they are called don’t seem to realize no matter who wins the primary, they will be compared to Satan himself.

Mitt, the dog torturer, the guy that likes to fire people, the vulture capitalist, evil rich white guy, the twisted mormon who probably has an extra wife stashed somewhere, breeder x 14.

Get used to the sound bites people, the crap storm that will rain down on the Republican candidate has just begun.

Africanus on March 7, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Another inconvenient truth. Hey, in addition to $2.50 a gallon gas I want fifty cent cigs and thirtfive cent bread.

plewis on March 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM

McCain 2.0.
If Mitt screeches “fight with me!”, the trifecta of limpd*ck candidacy will be complete.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on March 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Good point. Something else to ponder: Since The United States has more untapped oil reserves than the entire Middle East if the president were to aggressively pursue tapping those reserves, wouldn’t we be completely unaffected by anything going on in the ME? Iran could close the Straight of Hormuz and we could just point and laugh, hell the entire ME could be waging nuclear war against each other and we’d be fine. To say nothing of the jobs and wealth that would be created here.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Now that’s just crazy talk! Have you noticed how the pro-Romney people took what Newt said about the moon program completely out of context and turned it into a running joke to show what a whack-job Newt is? The hand wringing now would be funny if the freakin country wasn’t at stake this election.

For anyone who is also really tired of the Romney shills, I did a little research the other day when I was bored. I went through all the non election stories. I found that in any thread on Hot Air that day that wasn’t about the election, there were a total of five comments from the usual suspects. They don’t comment on those threads because that is not why they are here. They don’t care about policy, the country, current events, or anything except coming on these Romney threads to defend him from anyone who says anything not complimentary of Romney.

Night Owl on March 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM

WTF, I did not think there could be a worse campaigner than McCain. Move over John, it’s Mitt’s turn to prop-up Obama.

HellCat on March 7, 2012 at 4:35 PM

O/T: I haven’t heard much about Breitbart the past few days as far as has there been a funeral or memorial service. Anyone know?

silvernana on March 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Did something happen?

KeninCT on March 7, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I AM ANDREW BREIBART!A Hollywood writer tells of his experiences in the entertainment-socialism complex in the wake of Breitbart’s loss.

Mutnodjmet on March 7, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Willard McRomDole 2012!!!

angryed on March 7, 2012 at 4:42 PM

HA has apparently been taken over by an ABR crowd who apparently would rather lose the next election than support our eventual nominee, Mitt Romney. Breitbart will condemn you all from his grave. You have no business being part of the conservative movement, if you have joined forces with the enemy.

NuclearPhysicist on March 7, 2012 at 4:43 PM

No, some blogs are accurately reporting a hilarious gaffe that makes Romney look like the liberal weakling he is. The conservative blogs don’t need to “take out” Romney. He’s busy doing that to himself.

You’re attempting to give credence to a comment taken out of context. Romney made it clear there’s plenty a president can do that affects the price, though he doesn’t set the price at the pump directly. He’s not engaging in soundbites here but actually explaining in some depth what the problem is and how to resolve it. Not that any of you Romney-haters want to hear this. You’d rather take his remarks out of context to score cheap points.

You do apparently appreciate his ability to kick a$$ when it’s necessary since you complained about this enough when he came down hard on your guys. So it’s totally absurd and illogical to think he won’t do the same running against Obama. In fact he’s doing this already, attacking Obama over the pipeline issue, over energy prices, over his jobs policies, over his crony capitalism. You just haven’t been paying attention. But it’s one reason he just won OH.

writeblock on March 7, 2012 at 4:43 PM

We need to get behind Romney and quit eating our own!

mariee on March 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Indeed. How dare the peasants question the wisdom of their lords?

angryed on March 7, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Did any of you actual watch the entire interview? I thought what he said was good, try watching and listening. We need to get behind Romney and quit eating our own!

mariee on March 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Good point. Something else to ponder: Since The United States has more untapped oil reserves than the entire Middle East if the president were to aggressively pursue tapping those reserves, wouldn’t we be completely unaffected by anything going on in the ME? Iran could close the Straight of Hormuz and we could just point and laugh, hell the entire ME could be waging nuclear war against each other and we’d be fine. To say nothing of the jobs and wealth that would be created here.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM

I don’t think so. If the ME goes down, the EU goes down, and if the EU goes down, the US goes down.

That sounds as if I wouldn’t think that tapping the US reserves is a good idea. I actually think that it is the most important issue for the future and the best thing the US can do.

What I try to say is that things are much more complicated and globally interconnected than they seem.

And the US President can only influence gas prices indirectly and to a certain degree. He (or hopefully she) can’t control them completely.

Gelsomina on March 7, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Who has injured Romney more? The Democrats, or TruPopulists?

antisense on March 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

or Mitten’s TruBelievers?

I have been told I’m a moron, an idiot, a child, slow, uneducated, a redneck and yesterday wasinformed that I was some sort of sub-human species (I guess I’m on the same level as Brigham Young put black people–and none of us are getting into the celestial kingdom except to clean toilets)

I already have a president who despised me. I would be as stupid as Romney claims if I voted for another one.

Portia46 on March 7, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Sounds a lot like McCain never saying anything bad about/against his opponent in 2008…oh yea, that was Obumbo too! What are these creeps afraid of…?

aposematic on March 7, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Did any of you actual watch the entire interview? I thought what he said was good, try watching and listening. We need to get behind Romney and quit eating our own!

mariee on March 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Oh, you mean canibalism is something reserved for only Romney? Does he take Santorum with A1 and Gingrich with plain old ketchup?

Portia46 on March 7, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Precisely, at what price will it goes up to at the pump ,and goes down to in either one of your scenarios? Keep it to the nearest cent.

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Oh, I see, he means “precisely” now? Not that he has a very serious affect…yes, by your scenario, the president does not go around and reset all of the pumps, he does not climb the ladder and change all of the billboards, he doesn’t reprogram the electronic displays with the new prices….you see, he just establishes the climate of if the prices will go up or go down. He establishes the policy that affects the prices, but you are right, he doesn’t actually go into the gas stations and change the prices…sheeesh, where did we get these new posters?

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

“Are you happy with high gasoline prices in part because this administration hasn’t been willing to take in energy from other places across America?”
-Mitt Romney, CNBC interview March 7, 2012

Tina, you need to retract your article here and apologize.

I don’t believe you did it on purpose, but you have completely mislead your readers today.

scotash on March 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

For anyone who is also really tired of the Romney shills, I did a little research the other day when I was bored. I went through all the non election stories. I found that in any thread on Hot Air that day that wasn’t about the election, there were a total of five comments from the usual suspects. They don’t comment on those threads because that is not why they are here. They don’t care about policy, the country, current events, or anything except coming on these Romney threads to defend him from anyone who says anything not complimentary of Romney.

Night Owl on March 7, 2012 at 4:33 PM

I think there are a few like Jailbreak and Bluegill who are actually Obama people dispatched here to make people hate Romney.

I saw your comment above about leaving the party. I’ll vote for anyone to get Obama out but if Mitt is the nominee and we lose, I’m hoping a strong conservative third party will rise up with Palin, Walker, or someone of similar intergrity and backbone as the standard bearer. I don’t think we’ll survive in our current form under a 2nd Obama term, but one silver lining will be the forever shattering of the myth that you need a moderate to win. If the GOP can’t win this presidential election against the worst president in history, then they are finished.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Tina, you need to retract your article here and apologize.

I don’t believe you did it on purpose, but you have completely mislead your readers today.

scotash on March 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

What you have shown is why Mitt is not taken seriously…he says he wants the president to do something about the prices…than he says the president can’t do anything about the prices…gee, where has he done this before?
Abortion
Gun Laws
RomneyCare
Bail outs
TARP
Cap and Trade
And about everything else…
Thanks for pointing out what most of us know…He will say one thing one time, and the opposite another just to garner votes…and you saps keep lapping it up…

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Aren’t these high gas prices Bush’s fault?

nazo311 on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM

And Joana and others are Mitt sponsored and not serious posters but paid shills…the RNC had them here last year (Manlyrush was one), and I am sure the DNC have them, as well as the “raw raw” RNC and certainly Mitt pacs.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Romney stating an incredibly obvious fact that apparently has driven a few people into a wild frothing frenzy

Ok, Hun. Good luck winning the election on honsety with Romney! LMAO. He just destroyed a big hanging fruit

Flapjackmaka on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Precisely, he said precisely, not2bright.

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Tina, you need to retract your article here and apologize.

I don’t believe you did it on purpose, but you have completely mislead your readers today.

scotash on March 7, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Tina, PULEESE no apologies. One more apology this week and I’ll vomit. Your readers are bright enough to realize that the “president doesn’t control gas prices” is just another line in the new movie It’s a Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, Mitt World. It will be joining the other Romney gems “I like firing people”, “I know guys who own NASCAR teams”, “Ann has a couple of Caddies”….

Portia46 on March 7, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Sounds a lot like McCain never saying anything bad about/against his opponent in 2008…oh yea, that was Obumbo too! What are these creeps afraid of…?

aposematic on March 7, 2012 at 4:47 PM

That worked for McCain…
Mitt has said more nasty things about Newt and Santorum, and Perry, than he has ever said about Obama…conservatives make him very uneasy, and makes Wall Street and lobbyists uneasy.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:59 PM

And Joana and others are Mitt sponsored and not serious posters but paid shills…the RNC had them here last year (Manlyrush was one), and I am sure the DNC have them, as well as the “raw raw” RNC and certainly Mitt pacs.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Yeah, I get a similar vibe from Joana. She seems very RNC. It’s easy to pick the hardcore Mitt types out in a crowd. They hate Rush and Palin and always shoehorn some non sequitur comment about Christine O’Donnell or Sharon Angle into their posts.

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM

This thread is an example of journalistic malpractice. I’m about ready to boycott Hot Air over this one…

As the saying goes: Tina is entitled to her own opinions, but not her own facts.

Buy Danish on March 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Precisely, he said precisely, not2bright.

galtani on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Look pal, you want to start calling names…you a guy who is supporting someone with the ambition of someday being God and having his own world, precisely when does he want that world.
He made a stupid comment, using the word “precisely” is his “out” as I suggested.
That is what Mitt does, he has an “out”…just like he states he never supported abortion (even after saying it on video), because he never said he supported it…just that he respects the laws and would never change them… but it just depends on what “is” is…get it now chump?

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 5:05 PM

This thread is an example of journalistic malpractice. I’m about ready to boycott Hot Air over this one…

Buy Danish on March 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Well… Bye.

sharrukin on March 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

And Joana and others are Mitt sponsored and not serious posters but paid shills…the RNC had them here last year (Manlyrush was one), and I am sure the DNC have them, as well as the “raw raw” RNC and certainly Mitt pacs.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Most of them are Mormons.

Portia46 on March 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Kataklysmic on March 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Csdeven is a Mitt fan from years ago, she is legit, although she sometime is a he, sometimes has kids and sometimes not, and sometimes has a husband and sometimes not, and sometimes a Mormon, and sometimes not…but she is a Mitt fan and consistent.
Joana, bluegill (I actually have him/her pegged as a lonely person with this being the only way to get attention), jailbreak, and others will not be around after the elections.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM

This thread is an example of journalistic malpractice. I’m about ready to boycott Hot Air over this one…

As the saying goes: Tina is entitled to her own opinions, but not her own facts.

Buy Danish on March 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Goody. I have always advocated you leaving. Nice of you to take my advice.

eva3071 on March 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Most of them are Mormons.

Portia46 on March 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Doesn’t matter, but wouldn’t surprise me, but others like Dr. Ballard are Mormon but not paid shills…I was referring to the ones on the payola…which is funny because some of the most ardent and loyal (like csdeven) don’t get paid, while others come on, say the same thing and make money off of their gig.
Someone is getting played…while someone is getting paid.

right2bright on March 7, 2012 at 5:11 PM

It’s the night of the long knives when it comes to his GOP opponents, but the kid gloves for Obama.

Good luck with that.

Jingo95 on March 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM

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