Is the idea of “energy independence” an illusion?

posted at 1:55 pm on March 6, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Oil prices remain a concern heading into Spring, and most of the folks we hear from are pretty unhappy. Nobody likes paying more for gas, right? So higher oil prices are bad, yes? It turns out that the reality is a fair bit more complicated than what some of us may think. Recent news has gotten me to thinking in more global terms, and while there may be some positive aspects to this, I’m also quickly coming to the conclusion that the idea of “energy independence” may be an illusion. (More on that in a bit.)

But first, back to one of the opportunities I mentioned. In general, you don’t want to pay more at the pump, but if you talk to some of the financial wizards in the world of economics, every dark cloud has a silver lining. Higher oil prices, it seems, can provide opportunities for investors if the conditions are right. Economist Joe Weisenthal of Business Insider explains:

In its most recent ‘Weekly Kickstart’ note, Goldman Sachs has a page devoted to, what else, oil, and what specifically the firm is saying to clients regarding the potential impact on the economy and investing.

Here are the key bulletpoints, summarized by us:

  • Investors should overweight allocation to energy stocks.
  • The rise in oil prices is consistent with robust, demand. It will slow growth, but it’s not enough for the firm to start chopping its S&P earnings estimate.
  • Global supply/demand is very tight. Inventories have not risen. Saudi Arabia is producing as much oil as it has in 30 years.
  • It matters whether the surge in oil is demand or supply driven. So far it’s demand driven, which is good.
  • When there’s a supply shock, defensive sectors outperform.
  • Energy stocks remain cheap based on historical patterns with the price of oil.

So far, there’s no reason to knock down S&P earnings estimates, in part because some sectors within the index will benefit significantly from higher prices. However, the firm will start cutting in a sustained move higher.

At the link, Joe has a chart of oil prices vs. “cyclical” stocks which should prove informative.

The other aspect of the oil price issue which I mentioned above is a bit more depressing. It deals with the entire concept of American “energy independence” in terms of liquid petroleum based fuel supplies and their effect on both our national security and the price we pay for everything from the gas in your tank to the cost of heating your homes. What we’re learning is that, first of all, we’re actually producing a lot of oil in America right now, augmented by increasing supplies from our partners in Canada. (We can and should be producing a lot more, obviously, and Washington’s current policies need to change in order to make that happen.) Here’s where we stand on that.

But even if we ramp up production significantly, will it really change the conditions here on the home front all that much? We previously looked at a conspiracy theory regarding evil oil companies shipping all of the Keystone XL oil overseas and not letting us use it at home. That’s nonsense, of course, but it does teach us another important lesson. Oil is traded in a global market without distinction as to the nationality of the person writing the checks. While the energy industry provides a huge boost to the United States in terms of GDP, jobs and investment profits, they are not in this game for the purpose of driving down prices at home by flooding the domestic market with product.

Think of it this way: let’s say that our national consumption rate is “x” number of barrels of oil per year. If we (along with Canada) are producing X + one million barrels, you might think that all is well. Prices should be dropping and we can thumb our collective noses at the Saudis, right? Not really.

Even we produce above and beyond our needs, China still produces very little and has a massive thirst for oil. (They’re hardly the only ones, either.) The more we make, the more will be sold around the globe. Producers aren’t going to sell at cut rate prices and sit on millions of barrels waiting for us to order it at home. There will always be a buyer somewhere and prices will be whatever the market will bear. Yes, with a drastically increased production rate we can help swing the global equation a bit, but we’re never going to produce so much that we swamp the global market and drive prices into the dirt.

With that in mind, as I noted above, it may be time to do away with the concept of “energy independence” as a political stalking horse. (And yes, I’m fully aware that I’m one of the people who has been screaming the loudest about needing to achieve this largely mythical state for the last couple of years.) The oil companies are not agencies of the federal government working to fill up our private reserves. They are in business to make money and their customer base covers the globe.


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There is NO such thing as ethical Gore income.

Schadenfreude on May 8, 2013 at 6:02 PM

There is no such thing as an ethical Democrat or other liberal.

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 6:03 PM

What a dingus.

squint on May 8, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Except the kind that I use for my huge mansions and my private jet!

kim roy on May 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM

If it wasn’t for the US importing oil from the mid east, Al Jazeera would never have been able to come up with the $100 million to buy Al’s “current TV.”

But I know, his cultists are too stupid to draw that connection.

Oh, and BISHOP!!

UltimateBob on May 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM

My “go to” guy on ethics.

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Al(zheimer’s) Gore?

22044 on May 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

There’s no such thing as ethical carbon offsets.

unclesmrgol on May 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

I typed too hastily…. should be $500 million, not $100 million.

And no BISHOP for me. :-(

UltimateBob on May 8, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Unless he can make a profit from it.

JellyToast on May 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM

When small men cast long shadows you know the sun is setting.

Ancient Chinese proverb.

Cleombrotus on May 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM

How is it possible that some people still listen to this dingleberry??

Mimzey on May 8, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Wealth is a curse if you didn’t make it fairly, and I think this is a living (although dying) example of that.

22044 on May 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Here’s another f*cking piece of sh1t that can pass on any day now. Hypocritical, fraudulent shyster, rolling around in the ill-gotten gains he’s stolen from taxpayers. B1tch, STFU and vanish already.

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM

There is no such thing as an ethical Al Gore.

VorDaj on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I certainly hope he peddled his fat a$$ from Tennessee to Toronto on a bicycle.

oldleprechaun on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

There is no such thing as an ethical potted plant.

There is no such thing as an ethical reindeer.

There is no such thing as an ethical toilet bowl.

There is no such thing as ethical vodka.

There is no such as ethical beer.

There is no such thing as ethical water.

Need I go on? Al Gore is an ass. He’s so bad, he makes Biden look good.

Pfffft!

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I certainly hope he peddled his fat a$$ from Tennessee to Toronto on a bicycle.

oldleprechaun on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

‘Peddled’, yes.

‘Pedaled’, no.

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Leftist Pig.

pat on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

“I had hoped that Canada would point the way toward a better path, but as yet, it has not,” he said.

It’s starting to feel a little more religious up in hyeh.

Sort of another level of guru. You know — “toga’s next” level.

Axe on May 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Is he talking about the massage oil used by the masseuses he groped?

zap-johnson on May 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Al Gore: “There’s no such thing as ethical oil”

But there sure is such a thing as ethical oil money, right Al?

James on May 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Al Gore: “There’s no such thing as ethical oil”

The only time you’ll see “Al Gore” and the word “ethical” in the same sentence.

GarandFan on May 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Then sell your car, sell your plane, sell your house, Al Gore.

Ride a bike, walk or use a horse for transportation. Move into a home that uses wood to cook and heat. No A/C for those hot TN summers. Oh, and no refrigeration for your food.

INC on May 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Maybe he just needs another chakra released.

Axe on May 8, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Ride a bike, walk or use a horse for transportation. Move into a home that uses wood to cook and heat. No A/C for those hot TN summers. Oh, and no refrigeration for your food.

INC on May 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

That’s for other people. Like the law and everything else.

Axe on May 8, 2013 at 6:20 PM

There’s a conflict in every human heart, between the rational and the irrational, between good and evil. And good does not always triumph.

Sometimes the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. Every man has got a breaking point. You and I have one. Al Gore has reached his.

And very obviously, he has gone insane.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Didn’t he get raised on and then inherit beaucoup Oxy stock?

DanMan on May 8, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Forgive me if this was already mentioned, but just how many private jet flights has the gorgon taken this year alone I wonder, fueled by dirty or even dirtier oil?

parke on May 8, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I Can’t wait ’til the erf takes this vile POS back.

antipc on May 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM

says the azzhat that sold his TV station to a bunch of muslim terrorists for 30 pieces of silver and even threw his ex wife.

acyl72 on May 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

There is no such thing as an ethical Al Gore. As a Tennessean I am always proud to point out to our local liberals that we cost him the election. He couldn’t carry his own state, we knew him.

CTimbo on May 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM

This evil group of Algore sycophants is not insignificant. He feeds off of this unctuous bunch.
And just like Al, they bully everybody in their way.

egmont on May 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM

The transaction also raised eyebrows because Gore, who has for years inveighed against fossil fuels and their role in climate change, sold the network to a company funded in part by oil-rich Qatar.

Let Al Gorezeera tell the Qataris to stop drilling for oil, and they’ll put him on a camel in search of an oasis.

Don’t anybody fill up the Goracle’s private jet with fuel–you wouldn’t want him burning any of that dirty or dirtier oil and polluting the stratosphere. Give him a bicycle and a Fisker Karma, and let him see which one gets him to his destination faster.

Steve Z on May 8, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Manbearpig made over $200 million on carbon credits, global warming, and other hoaxes…

In a more rational time he’d be doing time.

In a more rational time, he’d be just another snake oil salesman run out of town on a rail.

Does AlGore use a computer? If so…it is made of what? Oil is a key component. But, since he is a progressive, one of those educated elites who must make sure that lesser peoples are managed well…he can do whatever he wishes.

But, us, we, the People?

We must conform.

Now…isn’t that what tyranny is all about?

coldwarrior on May 8, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Then sell your car, sell your plane, sell your house, Al Gore.

Ride a bike, walk or use a horse for transportation.

But horse manure releases methane, which absorbs 20 times more infrared than carbon dioxide. He just needs to plug up the horse’s @$$, or shut his mouth, which is really the same thing.

Steve Z on May 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Al is a sleaze.What is good about that is he is their sleaze.

docflash on May 8, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Sick of this fatazz. No more Gore this week.

ExpressoBold on May 8, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Standard Oil saved more whales than Greenpeace ever has.

Lily on May 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM

“There’s no such thing as ethical oil”

- Al Gore

Sooooooo, Fat Al, what does it say about your personal ethics that you sold your television channel to Al Jazeera, which is FUNDED BY ‘UNETHICAL’ OIL, for $500 million petrodollars???

Resist We Much on May 8, 2013 at 6:47 PM

And very obviously, he has gone insane.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM

In the DSM-V it is known as “The Dubya Effect”.

No known treatment.

No known cure.

Bruno Strozek on May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM

INC on May 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

His ex got the TN house he has the one in La Jolla on the beach. He really doesn’t need AC with the sea breeze but I’d bet he has AC anyway. All the libs that ascribe to AGW are hypocrites of the first order. They suckle on the teat of big energy while demanding it be halted.

chemman on May 8, 2013 at 6:52 PM

…what a Di@k!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I certainly hope he peddled his fat a$$ from Tennessee to Toronto on a bicycle.

oldleprechaun on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

‘Peddled’, yes.

‘Pedaled’, no.

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

See, kids… this is why learning your language is so important. It allows you to do cool stuff like that…

JohnGalt23 on May 8, 2013 at 6:59 PM

In retrospect, maybe it’s bad to make fun of the mentally deficient like Algore like we all are.

Oh, who am I kidding? ;)

Myron Falwell on May 8, 2013 at 7:09 PM

If liberals didn’t have sh!t for brains they’d oppose Keystone XL on eminent domain/property rights grounds instead of idiotically trying to argue that we don’t need oil, that every renewable source of energy is inherintly clean, that energy has nothing to do with jobs, and that pumping gas is like slapping mother earth in the face.

abobo on May 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM

“There’s no such thing as ethical oil”

There’s no such thing as Al Gore.

petefrt on May 8, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Didn’t he get raised on and then inherit beaucoup Oxy stock?

DanMan on May 8, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Shhh, must not mention the Gore’s Occidental oil stocks. Wouldn’t be PC.

Hey Al, look over there, –chocolates!!

slickwillie2001 on May 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Here’s another f*cking piece of sh1t that can pass on any day now. Hypocritical, fraudulent shyster, rolling around in the ill-gotten gains he’s stolen from taxpayers. B1tch, STFU and vanish already.

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM

If I understand you correctly, there is not much respect and admiration for former Vice-president manbearpig.

arnold ziffel on May 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

‘Peddled’, yes.

‘Pedaled’, no.

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Mea culpa.

Will you cut me some slack if I write:

“Peddled his fat a$$ to Al Jazeera.?

I was typing too quickly. Mrs. Leprechaun was waiting for me to take her to dinner.

See, kids… this is why learning your language is so important. It allows you to do cool stuff like that…

JohnGalt23 on May 8, 2013 at 6:59 PM

When R.C. Sproul said this country has too many people who are educated beyond their intelligence, I didn’t take it personally. Perhaps I should have…

oldleprechaun on May 8, 2013 at 7:37 PM

And very obviously, he has gone insane.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Yup

Cleombrotus on May 8, 2013 at 7:56 PM

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel, so I’ll pass.

Philly on May 8, 2013 at 8:33 PM

“There’s no such thing as ethical oil. There’s only dirty oil and dirtier oil,” Gore told Canada’s The Globe and Mail during a Tuesday event in Toronto….

Still, Gore put some of the blame on Canada.

“I had hoped that Canada would point the way toward a better path, but as yet, it has not,” he said.

I honestly didn’t think it was possible for AlGore From The Planet Eco to get any stupider. But he did.

The only “better path” that will apparently satisfy Al is us in mud huts and him in a castle. With us toiling in the rice paddies while Al goes by in his palanquin, carried by four eight sixteen big, strapping guys.

And I’m sure he’ll still be throwing a hissy fit because enough of us haven’t starved or frozen to death yet.

Go away, Al.

Just please f**king go away.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 8, 2013 at 8:36 PM

How sweet. A new buzzword for outing Gorephiles – Ethical Oil.

ericdijon on May 8, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Midas on May 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM

And yet he is a highly prized (and paid) member of Apple’s board of directors. Makes me question their judgement.

mad scientist on May 8, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Considering how many lives have been saved and made prosperous under this petroleum economy, I would have to disagree. Oil is not only ethical, it’s a life-sustaining blessing.

John the Libertarian on May 8, 2013 at 8:47 PM

abobo on May 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM

All of the “clean” energy systems and the infrastructure that distributes power are made using “dirty” oil byproducts.

mad scientist on May 8, 2013 at 8:47 PM

How much guilt must that lard ass be carrying?

CW on May 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM

. Many Americans would naturally assume Gore follows the green lifestyle he widely promotes, and they would be wrong. Gore and his wife Tipper, whose children all live elsewhere, reside in a behemoth 20-room mansion outside of Nashville that used nearly 23,000 kilowatt-hours last August, more than twice the annual—yes, annual—energy usage of a typical American home. Gore’s preferred mode of transportation between stops on his international publicity tour is his private jet, which spews out CO2 emissions at the rate of a small army of SUVs. -Harvard Crimson

Walk the talk Al.

CW on May 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Al Gore, you’re washed up, go home.

Axion on May 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM

It’s more ethical than your family’s tobacco fortune, Al “Marlboro-man” Gore.

virgo on May 9, 2013 at 12:41 AM

“I had hoped that Canada would point the way toward a better path, but as yet, it has not,” he said.

Canada is pointing the way to a better path. It’s called China.

The US would be a better market for Canadian oil, but since Obama wets his pants at the thought of making a decision on this, they’re building the line westward.

Go be ethical in your mansion on renewables, instead of grid electricity, you hypocrite.

ss396 on May 9, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Walk the talk Al.

AlGore doesn’t give a rats azz about anyone but himself. He has taken out his brain to play with it and dropped it once too often. If anyone wants to solve the energy problem start with using an electronic fuel injected diesel engine instead of a gasoline engine.

Diesel engines are at least 3 times more energy efficient, last longer and produce MORE TORQUE than gasoline engines. If you don’t believe me do the research for yourself.

73,(Best Regards)

hamradio on May 9, 2013 at 1:03 AM

I didn’t mean to jump down anyone throat with my comment but I get pizzd off by so many mental midgets that exist today because of both political parties. They have destroyed the education system, sold our national and economic sovereignty to the highest bidder, and told us to go to hell. Sadly this process is accelerating exponentially to total disaster for the USA.

hamradio on May 9, 2013 at 1:13 AM

There’s no such thing as ethcial …
… Al Jazeera.
… UN.
… politicians.
… man-bear-pig.
… environmentalists.
… MSM.

kregg on May 9, 2013 at 5:35 AM

I doubt Gore knows much about ehtics.

zoyclem on May 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM

Hmm…ethics…

zoyclem on May 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM

I wasn’t aware that natural resources were required to have ethics, or even had the ability to have them.

Then, on the other hand, there are politicians and activists.

Well, I guess we don’t require ethics of them anymore either. Big Al fits right in.

Chris of Rights on May 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

How about ethical Global Warming, there, Al?

In fact, how about a little Ethics Cleansing?

TimBuk3 on May 9, 2013 at 9:04 AM

I would counter that there is no such thing as an ethical Al Gore.

RebeccaH on May 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM