Sandra Fluke on “The View”: Rush’s apology “changes nothing”

posted at 2:37 pm on March 5, 2012 by Tina Korbe

While Laura Ingraham waits for an encouraging call from the president to compensate for MSNBC’s Ed Schultz calling her a “slut,” “reproductive justice” activist Sandra Fluke rejects Rush Limbaugh’s sincere expression of regret for calling her the same:

The Georgetown law student who drew an apology from Rush Limbaugh this weekend after the conservative radio host called her a “slut” on his show said that his public apology wasn’t sufficient during an appearance on ABC’s “The View” today.

“I don’t think that a statement like this issued, saying that his choice of words was not the best, changes anything, and especially when that statement is issued when he’s under significant pressure from his sponsors who have begun to pull their support,” said the 30-year-old student, Sandra Fluke. …

Fluke said she has not heard from Limbaugh personally but added that she’s not hoping to speak with him.

“The statements he’s made about me over the air are personal enough, so I’d rather not have a personal phone call with him,” Fluke said.

Fluke has the luxury to reject his apology in large part because she has the support not only of the president himself, but of big-name advertisers who have exerted bully-like pressure on Limbaugh. (Even The View’s Whoopi Goldberg said she found the speed with which they were willing to abandon the radio host to be disturbing!)

At this point, while it’s plausible that Rush apologized solely because he’s losing sponsors (as Fluke suggested), it’s also plausible that he has genuinely repented of his word choice. Limbaugh not only said he was sorry with a statement online, but he also opened his show today — his first on-air appearance since advertisers began to pull their support for his program — with a repeat apology, in which he made it clear that he violated his own personal broadcasting standards. In fact, he took a full 30 minutes to explain the entire episode to his listeners, including an explanation for why his advertisers left him (h/t The Right Scoop):

Ed said this weekend he thinks Rush was right to apologize, but I’m not so sure. He was wrong to use the word “slut” in the first place — it’s just a disgusting word that’s better left unsaid and Rush’s use of it conveniently played into the leftist narrative that conservative men are misogynistic (i.e. it was both tasteless and strategically stupid of Rush to say it) — but his apology makes it seem as though he did something wrong by expressing his opinion about a legitimate subject of national commentary.

Folks have made the argument that Rush’s “personal attack” was somehow different than similar name-calling directed to the likes of Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann. The argument typically goes something like this: Sarah Palin et. al. are public figures, while Sandra Fluke is a private citizen. But, in this instance, Fluke isn’t exactly a “private citizen.” She’s a seasoned activist who introduced the subject of Georgetown law students’ sex lives to the national debate about the Obama administration’s religious-liberty-violating contraception mandate.

Indeed, her unwillingness to accept Rush’s apology underscores that she’s far from a naive private individual who unexpectedly found herself at the center of a national controversy; she made it clear by her remarks on The View that she’s prepared to stoke this controversy as long as she derives a benefit from it. As long as advertisers continue to withdraw support for Limbaugh and the left continues to rally around Ms. Fluke, she’ll milk his remarks for all they’re worth.

The answer: Let’s stop giving Fluke the benefit of this controversy. Let’s keep the focus where it belongs and patiently continue to correct the misimpression (a.k.a. lie) that conservatives want to ban contraception. Nobody wants to ban contraception, but the Obama administration does want to force religious employers who object to contraception on religious grounds to pay for employee health insurance that includes coverage for contraception. It’s to that mandate that conservatives are politically opposed. Some conservatives are also personally opposed to contraception and to sexual promiscuity — but they’re not seeking to change the culture through the government. It’s progressives who prescribe government solutions to cultural ills and, in the process, jeopardize important freedoms.


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Fluke is a lesbian who used to fight for insurance to cover sex changes. I’m going to like to see how the demorats are going to handle this!

vietvet68 on March 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Trust me, every single act of slut shaming is just a frustrated, desperate attempt on behalf of men to regain some semblance of control over the other sex.

ernesto on March 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I guess you don’t know many women. Women call someone who has the appearance of being sexually promiscuous, a slut. Heck, women call other women sluts all the timefor all kinds of reasons. This isn’t a gender issue at all. I bet Ms. FLuke would have no trouble using the word.
So if Fluke had called some woman a slut on television or the radio, you would be okay with that?

Deanna on March 5, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Levin just mentioned this:

[B]irth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if “gender reassignment” surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance.

more here: http://theothermccain.com/

bluefox on March 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM

whatcat on March 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

There is no evidence she is any of these things: Slut, STD strumpet, or abortion mill.

She is all of the above inasmuch as you wish her to be; to fill some sick fantasy of yours.

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Let’s recap. The woman is 30 in college. That’s a major red flag right there. And she’s still acting like it’s rush week freshman year 12 years ago? No, not buying. This lawyer in waiting is a paid political hack. She can bite the big one, but then again she already has on numerous occasions.

The country is being led like a bell cow by lawyers, people lacking all common sense. The path they are putting us on is economically unsustainable. Their theater is overwhelming normal political balance of power. There’s no way conservatives can compete. Conservatives in the US are truly a minority party today. The millenials have tilted the balance heavily in favor of liberalism. You better get your schools straightened out if you want the country back.

pc on March 5, 2012 at 8:09 PM

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Yeah, but would say that there is evidence that she is a MOOCHER?
One who is about to get her LOOTER’s License?

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 8:09 PM

You don’t speak for me or anyone else, only yourself. What are you, some kind of control freak, or something? People express their anger and frustration and disdain and their OPINIONS in different ways. Not every comment has to be parsed and thorough and without emotion.

You don’t like what people are saying here, then why don’t you find yourself another place to comment?

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Right, just don’t cry about the Liberal media painting you as rednecks, throwbacks, and anti-women. There is a logical “thinking man’s” assessment to be had here, to which Rush spoke to today. Despite hearing his show, you decide to carry on in the same foolish line he has since apologized for. Why? It seems you can’t disagree with her without somehow hating her. You have a hate-on for someone you do not know, nor will ever meet.

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM

For someone who is just a “private citizen” as the claim goes, she sure has been a busy little bee buzzing around the talk show circuit. Wow I wonder how she managed to orchestrate all those appearances………….Interesting

FLUKE’S TV APPEARANCES

• Ed Schultz’s show Thursday March 1
• Today Show Friday March 2
• Andrea Mitchell’s show Friday, March 2
• CBS News Friday, March 2
• CNN—Dana Bash interview March 2
• Hardball- MSNBC March 2
• “The View” today

Karla1953 on March 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Take the term “birth control” out of the picture. If someone got in front of Congress and said they needed a government-subsidized $3000 worth of diet pills or Beano to make it through the year, every shock jock on the planet would get at least a month’s worth of laughs out of it.

If she had said her Pill expenses were $300 (assuming $25/month in pills, which is a bit much)instead of $3000 (what, are the pills gold-plated?), nobody would wonder if her battery-operated-boyfriend required a diesel engine.

Sekhmet on March 5, 2012 at 8:16 PM

You can’t deal with a moocher. They are completely self entitled… until the check comes.

aniptofar on March 5, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Fock Fluke!…oh wait!
Everybody has! (except that dude troll that has to blow up his dates, whatever!)

KOOLAID2 on March 5, 2012 at 8:18 PM

The whore’s just mad because she’s a man-faced slut that nobody wants to so much as touch… let alone #*&^…

Rush just hit to close to home for the homely hooker and her club nose and butch hair-cut. It only stings when it’s true…

SilverDeth on March 5, 2012 at 8:27 PM

[B]irth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if “gender reassignment” surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.

The title of the article . . . is “Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons” and was published in the Journal’s 2011 Annual Review.

Remember, as Byron York previously reported, Fluke was rejected as a last-minute substitute witness at a Feb. 16 committee hearing because staffers for Chairman Issa were unable to discover Fluke’s claim to expertise relevant to the subject of the hearing. This law school journal article is the sort of thing that might have been discovered about Fluke’s background, had the Democrats who put Fluke forward as a witness done so with the usual 72-hour advance notice. Here’s one brief quote from the article:

Transgender persons wishing to undergo the gender reassignment process frequently face heterosexist employer health insurance policies that label the surgery as cosmetic or medically unnecessary and therefore uncovered.

Now, imagine Fluke trying to defend this language about “heterosexist” policies in a public hearing, with Republican members of the committee questioning her about whether religious institutions (or private businesses, or taxpayers) should also be required to foot the bill for “gender reassignment.”

Congratulations, America: You’ve been scammed!

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Why are we still giving this lowlife attention?
I love the media!

KOOLAID2 on March 5, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Baba Wawa is understandably sensitive about someone being called a slut, having tried to bang her way through the Senate starting with her jungle fever fling with a married man and then going after the ex-Mr. Mrs. Richard Burton once she gave Crazy Al his first crack at network newslady tail in between.

Chickyraptor on March 5, 2012 at 8:32 PM

No, Rush went too far and I am not making excuses for him.

Terrye on March 5, 2012 at 5:15 PM

You are wrong. He called it like it was. The whore is a slut, and and lying liberal troll tool slut at that. Anything that happens to her is fair game.

They started this blood sport with the way they behave towards people like Malkin, Palin, and others. Fine with me. I am all game for escalating this crap as far as it needs to go, and not stopping till the rubble gets bounced 2 or 3 times over.

Enough of this pussy-footing around.

They bring a knife…

SilverDeth on March 5, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Yeah, but would say that there is evidence that she is a MOOCHER?
One who is about to get her LOOTER’s License?

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Oh yeah, I don’t like her telling me what I have to pay for. Of course she is arguing for more govn’t freebies. I just do not like the low road Rush and many have taken here. So quick to judge, when no one knows what really happened. By going the slut route Rush walked into a easily foreseeable Democrat trap. The optics look bad, the media eats it up, and the only people who lose are Republicans all over the country trying to get into orifice.

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Well how many condoms would a girl have to go through per day to reach $3000?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Durex-Condom-Variety-Pack-48-Condoms-3-Vibrating-Rings/10910692

At WalMart you can get a 48 pack for $25. $3000/25 = 120 packages of 48 condoms!! 120 x 48 = 5760 condoms in one year! 5760/365 = 15.78 per day!!!!

Sorry… but Rush was right if she is going through 16 condoms a day! No apology was needed.

jeffn21 on March 5, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Will Obama Super PAC Return Misogynist Bill Maher’s Million-Dollar Donation?

Former White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, the man who runs Obama’s super PAC, did not reply when asked if he will be returning Maher’s $1 million donation.

crickets…

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 8:44 PM

I meant to add that according to the math, she is giving Wilt Chamberlain a run for his money.

jeffn21 on March 5, 2012 at 8:44 PM

jeffn21 on March 5, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Perhaps she buys them by the yard

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 8:45 PM

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Thank you for the answer.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Person

What, a new type of person?

L = lesbian, check
G = Gay, check (although not sure why the L is not a subset of the G)
B = bisexual person, check
T = transgender, check
Q = ????

I guess I am behind the times here. What the heck is a Q person?

karenhasfreedom on March 5, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Wow I wonder how she managed to orchestrate all those appearances………….Interesting

I too smell a turd…Gloria Alldread anyone?

Twana on March 5, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Ok, I’ll say it….she is most definately a “SLUT”.

Winebabe on March 5, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Yes Sandra, it changes nothing.

You still are slut, political prostitute, libtard activist, and a liar.

Yep, nothing has changed.

Robert Jensen on March 5, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Oh, and Sandra, you still need a shave.

Robert Jensen on March 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM

MS. Fluke is NO ‘fluke’. By that, I mean, she is 30 years old, in WOMEN’S STUDIES. She is a militant FEMINIST, of the worst sort, and, unfortunately, there is nothing unique about her. She is the product of the program of WOMEN’S STUDIES and apparently adheres rigidly to that doctrine as do the many women on campuses across the country engaged in a similar program. She simply follows what she is told is the proper response. She engages in very little personal research or critical thought. Look at the image that she presents to the world. its proof positive. She looks exactly like the other ‘womyn’ who are engaged in similar studies across the nation. As per her tutorial in Feminist Studies, she seeks to force all women into the mold that SHE and the other Progressive self appointed Feminists think is appropriate.

I’d like to ask at this point: Who asked them?

That course demanded for all women being, of course, highly subjective and based entirely on their own personal experience and degree of understanding of the world, or, conversely yet inevitably, lack thereof. These women set themselves up as the arbiters of all that is ‘feminine’ and yet, have sacrificed nearly every feminine prerogative in drafting that template. Their lives are scripted by the doctrine to which they adhere and they are the perpetual ‘victims’ of a world ‘dominated by men’. These Feminists don’t even stop to consider that the rights of all women include a woman’s right to disagree with them on these very issues.

Ms. Fluke seeks empowerment. I think its excruciatingly ironic that her sole means of achieving that ‘empowerment’ or ‘real equality with men’ is apparently through her reproductive organs and processes since this is sum total of her argument for her ‘right’ to contraceptives provided at taxpayer expense by the federal government. I don’t see her demanding free contraception for men.

Where women used to be working toward the admirable goal of equal opportunity in the workplace and equal rights, now, apparently, the entire movement comes down to who is paying for the ‘right’ of some women to engage in sexual behavior without the fear of pregnancy, or, if an unwanted pregnancy should result, access to abortion on demand at any given stage of the pregnancy and an unlimited number of times…no questions ALLOWED.

It reminds me of an old cigarette ad: You’ve come a long way… Baby.

But begs the question: What have you become along the way?

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 9:04 PM

@Tina Korbe

While Laura Ingraham waits for an encouraging call from the president to compensate for MSNBC’s Ed Schultz calling her a “slut,”

Still playing the Laura Ingraham card Tina?
You forgot to mention that;
*Schultz made his comments once, in the span of about 12 seconds. Limbaugh trashed Fluke over a span of three days.
*Schultz took himself off the air for a week. Have you seen any signs that Limbaugh will do the same?
*Schultz never demanded that Ingraham post a sex video on the internet.

He was wrong to use the word “slut” in the first place — it’s just a disgusting word that’s better left unsaid and Rush’s use of it conveniently played into the leftist narrative that conservative men are misogynistic (i.e. it was both tasteless and strategically stupid of Rush to say it)

Funny Tina, you couldn’t bring yourself to say that a day or two ago when it would have actually mattered. You waited until Rush fell on his sword to finally figure out that he was trying to “slut shame” Fluke.

Not exactly a profile in courage, you.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Fluke is an attention whore, at least.

profitsbeard on March 5, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I guess I am behind the times here. What the heck is a Q person?

karenhasfreedom on March 5, 2012 at 8:54 PM

“Questioning”

Not. Kidding.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Transgender persons wishing to undergo the gender reassignment process frequently face heterosexist employer health insurance policies that label the surgery as cosmetic or medically unnecessary and therefore uncovered.

Now, imagine Fluke trying to defend this language about “heterosexist” policies in a public hearing, with Republican members of the committee questioning her about whether religious institutions (or private businesses, or taxpayers) should also be required to foot the bill for “gender reassignment.”

Congratulations, America: You’ve been scammed!

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Next time we have a discussion at HA about why companies would rather expand in China than in the USA, remember all this crap. It’s about way more than salaries.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 9:22 PM

chumpThreads:

WHERE is your outrage over BILL MAHER? Surely you’ve not missed his misogynistic rant that has been going on for… YEARS. His tirade makes Limbaugh’s ‘slut’ comment pale by comparison… EASILY. His offenses have been obscene and oft repeated. How is it that your indignation is so very selective?

Limbaugh’s remarks were offensive and he should have apologized. He has done so. Where is Maher’s apology AND YOUR CONDEMNATION OF HIS VILE CONDUCT?

“Physician….heal thyself.”

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Trust me, every single act of slut shaming is just a frustrated, desperate attempt on behalf of men to regain some semblance of control over the other sex.

ernesto on March 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Well, Ernie, I am a woman and I called her a slut.

Tell Bert “Hi!” for us.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:25 PM

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 9:22 PM

What’s next? Small-boob-complex so breast augmentation is a medical necessity? Balding-Derangement-Syndrome so insurance companies can be forced to provide hairplugs “free of charge” – The National Plugs Biden Act?

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:29 PM

My kids don’t pay for the insurance provided by their school, they get a Waiver, and supply their own.

Don’t cha know it? GEORGETOWN Law School has the same policy, you get your own insurance, as long as it is better than their policy, you don’t have to buy their crappy insurance and go before Congress to complain about it. By now, her friends should know they should get different insurance, unless they are really not smart enough to get into law school.

http://studentaffairs.georgetown.edu/insurance/

A journalist could ask her why they buy that insurance instead of providing their own. Probably, because they WANT to make an issue of it.

Fleuries on March 5, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I don’t see her demanding free contraception for men.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 9:04 PM

If you actually bothered to listen to Fluke’s testimony you would have seen that the context of her argument overwhelmingly concerned women suffering from diagnosed reproductive issues (such as ovarian cysts) that have been prescribed some form of contraceptive to treat, and that such treatment is not covered by the health insurance plans they already pay for.

Oh wait, hang on, you do actually realise that contraceptives are quite regularly prescribed to women for reasons other than avoiding an unwanted pregnancy, no? Oh, you didn’t?

Either did Rush.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Over the past few days, I have been reading “Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control” by E. Michael Jones. I’m only a fraction of the way through it but this quote struck me as being especially valid:

“We are persuaded that lust, being a product of the penchants, is not to be stifled or legislated against, but that is, rather, a matter of arranging for the means whereby passion may be satisfied in peace. We must hence undertake to introduce order into this sphere of affairs, and to establish all the security necessary so that, when need sends the citizen near the objects of lust, he can give himself over to doing them with all that his passions demand, without ever being hampered by anything, for there is no moment in the life of man when liberty in its whole amplitude is so important to him.”

Here we see the genius of this attack from the Left. They have used the entitlement society as justification for distribution of birth control, knowing that any effort to impede a vice will be held in the utmost contempt by those withing to practice it and will been seen by these same people as the greatest assault on human liberty in the history of mankind.

Woe! to our nation…

Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:33 PM

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:31 PM

The contraception mandate would have NO effect on Ms Fluke or any other STUDENT at any other university. Obamacare and the conception mandate apply to employers and employees.

She was and is irrelevant.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:34 PM

chumpThreads:

WHERE is your outrage over BILL MAHER? Surely you’ve not missed his misogynistic rant that has been going on for… YEARS. His tirade makes Limbaugh’s ‘slut’ comment pale by comparison… EASILY. His offenses have been obscene and oft repeated. How is it that your indignation is so very selective?

Limbaugh’s remarks were offensive and he should have apologized. He has done so. Where is Maher’s apology AND YOUR CONDEMNATION OF HIS VILE CONDUCT?

“Physician….heal thyself.”

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Three days. THREE DAYS he slagged a woman who did nothing more than express her opinion at a Congressional hearing. Yeah Maher crosses the line on occassion, and he should be called out on it. But he has never done ANYTHING to compare to Limbaugh’s total assault on Sandra Fluke.

“They do it too” doesn’t save you in this situation, jack. It just makes you look small.

Rush Limbaugh should have read Cal Thomas’ column and his apology to Rachel Maddow. THAT’S how an apology is offered.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 9:39 PM

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Oh wait, hang on, you do actually realise that if that was what this was REALLY about, ObaMao would have just mandated insurance companies to provide them for just those specific circumstances? Oh,you didn’t?

And has anyone heard the one about the idiot who flunked English and doesn’t know how to form a determiner in the negative?

Neither has bileduct

Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:43 PM

chumpThreads is a Trig Troofer. nuff said.

SparkPlug on March 5, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Oh,you didn’t?

And has anyone heard the one about the idiot who …
Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:43 PM

… didn’t know that words are separated by spaces?

Yeah, grammar and spelling flames are fun!

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:49 PM

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:49 PM

The differences between a lame thumb and a lame brain are vast.

Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:52 PM

chumpThreads is a Trig Troofer. nuff said.

SparkPlug on March 5, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Poisoning the well, SparkPlug? Seriously?

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The differences between a lame thumb and a lame brain are vast.

Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:52 PM

There’s no reason to bring Sarah Palin into this.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

She won’t accept his apology, what a crybaby. What does she expect him to do? grovel at her feet or something?

Dollayo on March 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

So now we know why she never made it to the WNBA.

Glenn Jericho on March 5, 2012 at 9:57 PM

She won’t accept his apology, what a crybaby. What does she expect him to do? grovel at her feet or something?

Dollayo on March 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Why should she accept Limpball’s non-apology apology?

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I’m getting fired up by all this..from the silence of the media to tell who Sandra Fluke really is to the dropping of the advertisers…We need to defend Rush..he is our warrior, his choice of words , though accurate, was poor and he admitted it..His apology isn’t enough for the hypocrites on the other side! They want him gone for the airwaves, make no mistake about it. We have to fight for freedom, fight for our fellow conservative

sadsushi on March 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM

She won’t accept his apology, what a crybaby. What does she expect him to do? grovel at her feet or something?

Dollayo on March 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM

He should spend the first hour tomorrow reading her law review article about how insurance companies should pay for sex change operations.

Some d-y-n-o-m-i-t-e quotes in there.

All of a sudden those x-burbs mums are going to be saying, “Whoa, Sandy! You do NOT speak for us!”

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Why should she accept Limpball’s non-apology apology?

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I could’ve said the same thing about Ed Schultz or Alan Grayson’s apologies.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I’m getting fired up by … dropping of the advertisers.

sadsushi on March 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Why? Isn’t that how the free market self-regulates?

Hot Air readers are opposed to free markets now… Interesting.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Hey BILEDUCT:
Those contraceptive YOU’RE talking about are sold at Walmart for $9/month. The pill IS the prescribed medication for the ovarian cysts that you’re discussing. Further, that remark about her unfortunate friend that FLUKE made was only ONE SMALL PART of her testimony and the rest of the transcript of that testimony deals almost entirely with the cost of contraception used as birth control. READ IT.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I love Rush and love him even more today. He makes my day.

Everything he said about the issue was correct. The apology reads like a statement carefully vetted by lawyers, probably to pre empt lawsuit, even a nuisance suit. Who has the time

IMHO the lady in question is what the word implies, because she shamelessly complained about her need for the taxpayer to shell out 3000 dollars so she could have the type of sex that requires prescription birth control. Her three thousand dollar figure tells me she is either a liar, or a fool, since the number is outrageous.

The fact she does not mention the sex partner or demand the authorities extract some funds from him for their frolics tells me she is a dead beat. Welfare moms go after the guy to fork up

If Rush goes away, I go with him

entagor on March 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Hey Chump, I wanna apologize for getting my numbers wrong the other day when I got you mad for telling you that O’bama got 61% of the high school dropout vote, according to the CNN exit poll. I also mentioned that MSNBC said he got 70% of their votes, but they scrubbed the results.

I just checked CNN again. O’bama in fact got 63% of the high school dropout vote nationwide.

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 10:27 PM

CHUMPTHREADS:
Maher has unleashed this vitriol for YEARS and he’s unleashed the C-word against Palin, he called her a “Dumb t–t” and he has repeatedly referred to women with whom he disagrees as ‘bimbos’. I think his rant outpaces Limbaugh and, as I said, Limbaugh was wrong, and he realized it and he apologized.

Again… where’s your outrage for the egregious and vile obscenities coming out of Maher? Maher actually refused to apologize when he was called on his behavior. He said he didn’t have to because he is “on cable”. So… I guess that the line is as long as its on cable its acceptable to call women the C-word…. and a “Dumn Tw-t’.. and bimbos… all you like, but if you’re on syndicated radio… you’re obliged to apologize if you give offense and observe the rules of decorum.

Nice double standard you’ve set up. Now, do yourself a favor and go look up ‘hypocrite’ in the dictionary.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

She won’t accept his apology, what a crybaby. What does she expect him to do? grovel at her feet or something?

Dollayo on March 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM

It was a crap apology, so why should she let him off the hook?

Right now, Sandra Fluke owns Rush Limbaugh. He thought he had found an easy victim and is now stunned to see the situation reversed.

Perhaps if he offers a real apology, Ms. Fluke will have mercy on him.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

You can talk about Bill Maher all night long, pal.
It’s not going to help Limbaugh hold on to his advertisers and it’s not going to help the Republican Party in November.

Massive, massive FAIL by Limbaugh.
Bonus: The dittoheads don’t know when to stop digging!

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Hey BILEDUCT:
Those contraceptive YOU’RE talking about are sold at Walmart for $9/month.

Walmart does sell a generic Ortho Cyclen and Ortho Tricyclen for $9, you are correct. Do you think every woman is prescribed the same pill?

I guess that’s why there’s only one type of anti-depressant then, right?

The pill IS the prescribed medication for the ovarian cysts that you’re discussing.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Absolutely it is. And insurers are insisting that women pay for it out of their own pockets.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:37 PM

You can talk about Bill Maher all night long, pal.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Of course they will…

“He did it first!!!! Nerrr nerrr!”

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:39 PM

it’s not going to help the Republican Party in November.

$5 gas will.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Hey BILEDUCT:
Those contraceptive YOU’RE talking about are sold at Walmart for $9/month. The pill IS the prescribed medication for the ovarian cysts that you’re discussing. Further, that remark about her unfortunate friend that FLUKE made was only ONE SMALL PART of her testimony and the rest of the transcript of that testimony deals almost entirely with the cost of contraception used as birth control. READ IT.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Yes, Walmart do have two generic versions of the pill for $9,. however, just as with anti-depressants, these are not for everyone and not every woman is prescribed the same medication. You will find that there are other varities out there that cost a lot more, in some cases upwards of $60 a month.

Taken over a three year timeframe (which is the timeframe Fluke was talking about) it’s not exactly hard to see where the $3000 figure comes from.

As for listening to the entire testimony or reading the transcript – been there, done that. Can you please encourage a few people on your side to do the same? Thanks for that.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

$5 gas will.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Maybe.
If the President is successful in hanging the blame for high gas prices around the necks of oil speculators, where it belongs, the possible damage might not be manageable.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

The contraception mandate would have NO effect on Ms Fluke or any other STUDENT at any other university. Obamacare and the conception mandate apply to employers and employees.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Really?

Then why is the Ave Maria University suing the Obama administration over it then?

They apparently believe the mandate violates their core beliefs, though they are strangely silent on the matter of having sex with children.

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM

CHUMPTHREADS:

DOES Maher speak the Democrats? Does Maher, in any capacity represent the Democratic Party?

Limbaugh does not represent the GOP. Rush Limbaugh is a radio personality. Period. He is a conservative talk show host on the radio. He is in no way a representative of the GOP nor is he a political entity.

I give the American people a great deal more credit for having common sense and the capacity for reason than you do, since you suggested that the GOP will suffer for the actions of Rush Limbaugh in the general election. Most people are capable of drawing the distinction between a radio host and a candidate for political office.

Those who would use the kind of reasoning to inform their vote would never have voted for anyone in the GOP to begin with, and I suggest to you that many of those people wouldn’t even have made it off the couch to go vote in any case.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Bileduct:

” ….Walmart DO have…” Try to acquire a better command of the language.

Further, if a woman has a medically covered need for those prescriptions to which you’ve alluded, MOST insurance companies already cover them. If the women of a particular student body at any given university are foolish enough to settle for an insurance plan that doesn’t cover the same prescriptions that MOST insurers routinely cover… I’d suggest that they need to take that up with the university in question OR transfer to a university that has a better insurance plan.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

If the President is successful in hanging the blame for high gas prices around the necks of oil speculators, where it belongs, the possible damage might not be manageable.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Good luck with that. History proves otherwise.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 11:13 PM

You know who really deserves an sincere apology from Rush, and many people here?

Genuine sluts and prostitutes.

Both give value for value. In the case of sluts, they and their partners get pleasure. Even trade. No one loses.
Prostitutes give pleasure for money, No one loses. Everyone gets what they wanted.

Fluke is a MOOCHER and will soon get her LOOTER License from one of the most expensive law schools in the world. She gives no value at all to those who she wishes to take money from.

Once again we have let the leftists shape the argument and make it about personalities, let them make it about gender , race or something / anything besides what it really is about: expanding government power , and expanding government theft from the Producers.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 11:16 PM

You can talk about Bill Maher all night long, pal.
It’s not going to help Limbaugh hold on to his advertisers and it’s not going to help the Republican Party in November.

Massive, massive FAIL by Limbaugh.
Bonus: The dittoheads don’t know when to stop digging!

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Tell us about the advertisers that dumped Maher just before his show got dumped by ABC in 2002.

One of them was Sears.

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM

$5 gas will.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Maybe.

If the President is successful in hanging the blame for high gas prices around the necks of oil speculators, where it belongs, the possible damage might not be manageable.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:52 PM

1. Did you Blame Bush for “high” gas prices in 2006 and 2008?

2. Has gas ever been $5 a gallon here on the US Mainland?

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 11:25 PM

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

They have the right to drop their advertising and we have the right not to use their products, what’s more free market than that?

Cindy Munford on March 5, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Tell us about the advertisers that dumped Maher just before his show got dumped by ABC in 2002.

One of them was Sears.

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM

So Del are you admitting that this type of outrage isn’t selective towards the right, unlike what the majority of commenters here would have us believe?

bileduct on March 5, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I guess I am behind the times here. What the heck is a Q person?

karenhasfreedom on March 5, 2012 at 8:54 PM

“Questioning”

Not. Kidding.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Are you serious? I thought the go to word for “questioning” was “curious”.

Too funny. And I have NEVER heard of a questioning person end up straight. I always have gotten the impression that “questioning” was just dipping their toes in the gay world until they got ready to “come out” so to speak.

You learn something new every day. And I am going to go HERE: I have also never heard of a straight woman major in women’s studies.

And regarding insurance companies FORCING the co-eds to buy their medically necessary pills for their ovarian cyst treatments. Peeps, the insurance companies don’t force anyone to do anything.

Insurance companies offer what used to be a plethora of choices of group plans to employers and administrators of “affinity groups” which is what a student plan would be considered. The administrators of the group plans pick the plan that works for their budget and what they want to offer as an employee benefit.

I say “USED TO” because I noticed when my group plan came up this past year, I got to choose between the grandfathered NON Obamacare plan (the most expensive), or just a couple of Obamacare qualified plans. And each of those plans, the Rx is a rider and the Rx rider is offered with and without prescriptions for contraceptives.

So an employer can CHOOSE whether or not to even offer Rx in addition to hospitalization and major medical expense type of policies, or keep costs down and not have an Rx plan included. If they choose to offer the Rx, then they can also choose whether or not the whole contraceptive thing is included.

None of the policies I chose from this fall included fertility treatment, sex change stuff, ELECTIVE surgeries, that sort of thing.

The employer chooses the co-pays for the policy costs each month. The employer can decide what % the employee has to pay toward their OWN coverage and also the employer can choose whether or not to partially or fully cover the cost of dependents and spouses.

Do you peeps have ANY IDEA how expensive these policies are for your employers? A family plan with kids is between $1400 and $2000 depending upon what options you include in my neck of the woods.

It is almost cheaper to offer mortgage payment benefits and leave health care expenses to the employees for them to pay for on their own.

Seriously.

And here is the other thing Ms. Fluke may not know as she tries to force gender re-assignment as a mandatory coverage:

Group policies are usually renewed and repriced based on that group’s experience with claims and costs the prior fiscal year. These gender reassignment surgeries are horrifically expensive. So basically if these were included, for each reassignment surgery, that would cost shift over hundred thousand dollars per year back onto the employer, DIRECTLY.

So if a small employer of say 50 employees had a policy that mandated gender reassignment, it would cost him/her over $2K or MORE extra per year per employee into infinity.

If these kind of things get mandated in the future, assuming Obamacare gets overturned so the employer is still in the driver’s seat for insurance benefits, would ANY employer ever offer any person a job that the employer may THINK is gay on the off chance there might be huge insurance costs down the road? Think about it. This is also a reason why so many overweight people are not offered jobs, it is all about the cost of insurance, if qualifications are equal between candidates for hire.

Liberals never consider the consequences of their demanding temper tantrums.

karenhasfreedom on March 5, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Bileduct:

” ….Walmart DO have…” Try to acquire a better command of the language.

thatsafactjack on March 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Wow.

I tell ya what, here’s a sentence without a full stop at the end to really make your head explode

bileduct on March 6, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Trust me,

ernesto on March 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Lost all credibility in two words or less…..

viking01 on March 6, 2012 at 12:22 AM

It was a crap apology, so why should she let him off the hook?

Right now, Sandra Fluke owns Rush Limbaugh. He thought he had found an easy victim and is now stunned to see the situation reversed.

Perhaps if he offers a real apology, Ms. Fluke will have mercy on him.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

LOL yeah, that’ll happen at about the same time 0bamessiah learns what it means to be President of the country rather than one of His faction only.

You don’t believe Rush is sincere – how could you know that he truly isn’t? “graciousness” and “kindness” are the words of a foreign language people on your side don’t know, and don’t care to learn. You people are so emotionally stunted, and so blind to your own double-standards and hatred, you are not capable of understanding how someone like him thinks and operates, which you demonstrate in one manner by believing he’s “stunned”, and that he’s ‘owned’ by her – thanks for that bit of humor! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on March 6, 2012 at 12:25 AM

What I’m wondering is how many months ago DNC shill Baba Wawa staged this plant’s appearance in collusion with the Obama administration’s planned anti-Catholic attack agenda regardless of what Limbaugh’s comment would have or not have been.

(Not a Catholic but I respect their religious freedoms and rights not to be harassed by degenerate TOTUS and his presstitutes.)

viking01 on March 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Left overplaying this will prove to be
a very large unforced error.

30 million regular listeners?
Another 20 million know and like the man?
Hornet’s nest.

Ms Fluke best beware.
If she has decided this herself, okay.
But if she is being pushed? Used?

Uglier is likely.
************
Should be fun.

PaleoRider on March 6, 2012 at 12:57 AM

It was a crap apology, so why should she let him off the hook?

Right now, Sandra Fluke owns Rush Limbaugh. He thought he had found an easy victim and is now stunned to see the situation reversed.

Perhaps if he offers a real apology, Ms. Fluke will have mercy on him.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Are you kidding me? What hook?? Rush is not on the hook for anything. He has hundreds of companies dying to advertise on his radio program, more than he has spots to fill. She doesn’t have to accept his apology just as Rush didn’t have to give this lefty any kind of apology. Oh, and if Fluke owns Rush why can’t she buy her own damn birth control like everyone else? I mean, the woman is already on a scholarship paying for her education but she still can’t come up with money to satisfy her own sexual hobbies? The truth is Rush can buy and sell this sponge a million times over and still have change for a cup of coffee. However, I do agree that this sad woman is a victim. In fact, she seems like a perpetual victim. She is a victim of her own entitlement mentality and that is just like being a slave. If she wants anything more from Rush in the way of an apology she shouldn’t hold her breath.

Dollayo on March 6, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Netanyahu: Israel ‘reserves right’ to strike Iran…
Tornado death toll at 39…
Suicide bomber kills two at US base in Afghanistan…
POLICE: Black teenagers light 13-year-old on fire; ‘You get what you deserve, white boy’…

Need I cut and paste more? Our elected elite in Washington have their priorities screwed up. The world is going to pot and we’re here discussing free contraception? Shouldn’t this piss every taxpaying citizen off? If you think Sandra Fluke is right, then by all means, cut her check and mail it to her. Nobody’s stopping you.

racquetballer on March 6, 2012 at 1:30 AM

So?

Christien on March 6, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Shave that daddgumm mustache, Flook!!

Sherman1864 on March 6, 2012 at 1:45 AM

I am fine with paying for Ms Flukes pills, condoms whatever. And now that, that has been taken care of. I want Ms Fluke, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and all the left to pay for all of my ammunition. Since they have recreational sex, I have recreational shooting, and want all of my ammunition I burn up to be paid for. Shooting relaxes me, it helps my blood pressure to go down and makes my mental state much better. I suggest all you rednecks also ask for the gubermint to pay for your ammunition. It will make you feel better nothing like a dead center bullseye first thing in the morning. If the left can be absurd so can we.

stormridercx4 on March 6, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Calling Fluke a slut is an insult to all sluts. (I’m sure someone already said that, right?)

tbear44 on March 6, 2012 at 2:13 AM

It was a crap apology, so why should she let him off the hook?

Right now, Sandra Fluke owns Rush Limbaugh. He thought he had found an easy victim and is now stunned to see the situation reversed.

Perhaps if he offers a real apology, Ms. Fluke will have mercy on him.

chumpThreads on March 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM

oh puhleeease..

Rush said all that needed said, if lil miss political act-T-vist hack wants to whine it wasn’t good enough, she should just admit, that no apology, ever, will ever BE good enough..

Because you crush the 1st Amendment shills aren’t gonna let this go.. it hides what you really want, which is to stomp on religious principles that you don’t like.. a very bigoted stance, but very typically liberal.

A Catholic Hospital gave me my life back, after they repaired my cervical spine, that kind of expertise will never be matched by that abomination Obamacare..

I see doctors all the time,.. and the patients are almost uniformly against this moronic plan.. the waiting rooms are full of folks talking about it, and how it’ll screw things up..

but Obama knows best… and will force everyone to play his game, or he’ll crush you, send his internet truthers out to shill and lie for him, distorting the truth so badly, folks might actually believe the BS you shovel..

mark81150 on March 6, 2012 at 3:20 AM

You’re seeing what happens. Because you’re not rewarding “decency”, you’re rewarding indecency in the name of civility.

I intend to coarsen. I want stark contrasts drawn. I want polarization. I want “moderates” to pick a side. I will not quietly accept socialism so as not to upset anyone. I am not tolerant of our impending and increasing slavery.

We’re at a fork in the road. There is no middle path. Time to choose. And there is no time to whine about the people explaining this to you.

-Pablo says March 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm

SilverDeth on March 6, 2012 at 4:44 AM

Sandra Fluke on “The View”: Rush’s apology “changes nothing”
Mar 5, 2012 2:

Perhaps if Rush offered to be her sugar daddy for a year. That seems more her style.

ray on March 6, 2012 at 7:30 AM

http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance

Sandra Fluke isn’t just arguing that taxpayers and private insurance must cover contraceptives; she’s arguing they must also cover sex changes.

mountainaires on March 6, 2012 at 7:59 AM

karenhasfreedom on March 5, 2012 at 11:57 PM

The new acronym is: LQBTQQI

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, and Intersex.

FdUp might be simpler.

Resist We Much on March 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM

There is no evidence she is any of these things: Slut, STD strumpet, or abortion mill.

She is all of the above inasmuch as you wish her to be; to fill some sick fantasy of yours.

antisense on March 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

She says she is spending $1000 a year on contraception. Condoms are 40 cents a pop, which strongly implies she is doing it at least six times a day, assuming that none of the guys every bring their own, and as much as twice that, if she’s talking about it as an average per student cost. (One condoms is used by two people per act.)

There are porn stars who felt they had a problem when three to four times a day wasn’t enough to quench them.

More over, guys can’t keep up with that rate. Typical recharge time is around 0.5 hours, which would require dedicating between three to six hours every day to the act. In order to get up to those kind of numbers on a daily basis, without the six hour daily layover, she would have to be using multiple partners, and not just a couple, and as the partner count rises, the probability of STD contact rises significantly.

In order to maintain the numbers she is claiming she of necessity must be sleeping with far more people, far more frequently than is safe or healthy for her. The numbers are cold and uncaring, but they do not lie.

Voyager on March 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM

I feel a limerick coming on:

There once was a lady named Fluck…

Galtian on March 6, 2012 at 8:23 AM

“It changes nothing”is correct! Madam Fluke remains the laughing stock of the nation. She represents the sleazy youth of this nation that place a supreme importance on their genitalia. To the extent that they’ll elect politicians that will pass legislation to protect their private parts and their rights to flaunt them anywhere/anytime. Darvin Dowdy

Darvin Dowdy on March 6, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Why hasn’t anyone made this point = BIRTH CONTROL PILLS DO NOT PROTECT AGAINST STD’S – casual sex, especially on college campuses, should never rely on birth control pills or IUDs. BC pills should only be used by married women or women with a long-term known partner. Why hasn’t anyone spoken out to say that all this media talk about birth control pills may very well lead to more women catching STDs? An unwanted pregnancy can still be solved with an abortion but STDs are deadly. If anything, why hasn’t Ms. Fluke been attacked for endorsing unprotected sex by claiming that BC pills/IUDs or other forms of chemical birth control are the answer to stopping pregnancies?

BabysCatz on March 6, 2012 at 8:42 AM

More over, guys can’t keep up with that rate. Typical recharge time is around 0.5 hours, which would require dedicating between three to six hours every day to the act. In order to get up to those kind of numbers on a daily basis, without the six hour daily layover, she would have to be using multiple partners, and not just a couple, and as the partner count rises, the probability of STD contact rises significantly.

In order to maintain the numbers she is claiming she of necessity must be sleeping with far more people, far more frequently than is safe or healthy for her. The numbers are cold and uncaring, but they do not lie.

Voyager on March 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM

She is not talking about condoms, she is talking about the birth control pill taken monthly to control periods. Also, I really do not want to know how you came up with this “recharge” number. Congratulations.

antisense on March 6, 2012 at 9:12 AM

People are missing that Ms. Fluke has made an impressive legal argument for a suit with far reaching effect. Not for the birth control nonsense, that’s just stupid. But that as a law student, she has been taught so poorly and ineptly at this law school that she can maintain with a straight face that a person is legally entitled to demand free goods and services from another. Her very first Property Law class in law school should have taught her better. She has presented a perfect case for suing the law school for gross negligence in her complete lack of legal education.

Stephen L. Hall on March 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Limbaugh is Right Folks

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=202968

mountainaires on March 6, 2012 at 9:39 AM

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