McCain: Hey, let’s bomb Syria

posted at 6:09 pm on March 5, 2012 by Allahpundit

After a week of Afghans rampaging over burned Korans, a series of Islamist landslides in Egypt’s elections, and now grave desecration at a war cemetery for Allied heroes in Libya, anyone else eager to risk more American lives to help?

“Foreign capitals across the world are looking to the United States to lead, especially now that the situation in Syria has become an armed conflict,” he said. “But what they see is an administration still hedging its bets — on the one hand, insisting that Assad’s fall is inevitable, but on the other, unwilling even to threaten more assertive actions that could make it so.”…

“These people are our allies,” he said. “They want many of the same things we do. They have expanded the boundaries of what everyone thought was possible in Syria. They have earned our respect, and now they need our support to finish what they started. The Syrian people deserve to succeed, and shame on us if we fail to help them.”…

“The benefit for the United States in helping to lead this effort directly is that it would allow us to better empower those Syrian groups that share our interests — those groups that reject al Qaeda and the Iranian regime, and commit to the goal of an inclusive democratic transition, as called for by the Syrian National Council,” he said. “If we stand on the sidelines, others will try to pick winners, and this will not always be to our liking or in our interest.”

The last point is a good one — if Syria’s destined to become a free-for-all, we’d best maximize our influence to stop Bad Things from happening — but I can’t believe he’s still arguing circa 2012 that siding with Middle Easterners against their oppressors earns us “allies.” He does realize that the new boss in Syria after Assad falls is apt to look a lot like the new boss in Egypt now, yes? I sympathize with Maverick’s today-we-are-all-Georgians solidarity with bullied populations, but no one believes this anymore. If you want to intervene, do it to deal Iran a blow, to lock down Assad’s WMDs before they go loose, or to spare innocents from butchery. But don’t do it in the idiotic expectation that you’ll gain a new ally or anyone’s gratitude. Fearless prediction: Post-Assad, Syria will be even more hostile to Israel than it is now. There’s your “gratitude.”

Watch what he says about creating a safe haven in the north of the country for rebels to organize and arm. That possibility has been kicked around for months, but as of two weeks ago Turkey was still cool to the idea. The problem right now, I think, is that not only are people still uncertain about who’s involved with the opposition — the latest faction to call for Assad’s ouster is, er, Hamas — but no one’s really sure if there’s enough of it to sustain itself even if western intervention bought it some breathing room. (Even the Saudis and other Gulf states are hesitating on weapons shipments because of all the question marks.) You know how this story goes by now: Once the U.S. and Europe are in, the only way to avoid losing prestige is to keep at it until Assad is gone, whatever that may mean in terms of deepening our commitment. And as true as that was in Libya, it’ll be ten times as true in Syria, where the battle will quickly become a proxy war between the west and Saudi Arabia on one side and Iran, Hezbollah, and, to some extent, Russia on the other. Once we’re in, we’re in. How lucky do you feel?


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Why hasnt he went away yet?

Politricks on March 5, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Is McCain completely senile?

VorDaj on March 5, 2012 at 6:12 PM

This is what happens when politicians don’t have to pay for their own gas…

Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Let’s not and say we did, John/

JPeterman on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

The frog asked in surprise, “Why did you sting me?”

“Because it’s my nature,” replied the scorpion.

chimney sweep on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Report:
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US Senator John McCain to call for US-led air strikes to halt violence in Syria

Submitted 4 hours ago from thecable.foreignpolicy.com
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/05/mccain_to_call_for_air_strikes_on_syria

canopfor on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

When will this man go away?

He’s useless.

ButterflyDragon on March 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Well we spent all this money on weapons, we might as well use them. Just pick a random, non English speaking country. Any will do./

rndmusrnm on March 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Send Obama in. He single handedly killed Osama, which means he’s Rambo.

Gatekeeper on March 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM

The whole concept of winning hearts and minds in the Islamic world is a bust. How intellectually bankrupt our strategy is can be seen in microcosm in the preposterous practice of handling copies of the Koran with white gloves, as if the Islamic book was something worthy of our respect, and not a “how to” manual of conquest and subjugation of the infidels.

RasThavas on March 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM

I’ll think about it as soon as he shows he’s got enough balls to call Sandra Fluke a slut.

Stoic Patriot on March 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM

All we have to do is call Syria a slut and he’ll be all over us defending them.

Kelligan on March 5, 2012 at 6:20 PM

are there hobbits in syria too?

renalin on March 5, 2012 at 6:21 PM

If you want to intervene, do it to deal Iran a blow, to lock down Assad’s WMDs before they go loose, or to spare innocents from butchery. But don’t do it in the idiotic expectation that you’ll gain a new ally or anyone’s gratitude.

Nailed it.

Kataklysmic on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Anyone still wondering if we aren’t a one party state? My friends.

batterup on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Pretty easy to do, simply have Warmonger George Bush Barack Obama divert the U.S. planes which were bombing Libya and move them to Syrian airspace.

Bishop on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Mostly peaceful grave desecration.

BadgerHawk on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

What makes McCain this stupid?

Aplombed on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

If you want to intervene, do it to deal Iran a blow, to lock down Assad’s WMDs before they go loose, or to spare innocents from butchery. But don’t do it in the idiotic expectation that you’ll gain a new ally or anyone’s gratitude.

I couldn’t agree more. Its unbelievable that McCain would make this argument for intervention after the experience in Iraq, and more recently in Libya. We will be viewed as useful (and well-armed) idiots by the Syrian opposition, not allies. If we want to strike Syria, we might as well cut the head off the snake and go for Iran. Otherwise, the only reason for launching strikes would be to keep chemical weapons from falling into the wrong hands. We should go to war to kill our enemies, not to “protect” the lives of a ragtag band of future al-Qaeda associates.

Lawdawg86 on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

What is wrong with just letting them kill each other and leave us out of it? Who cares about muslim on muslim violence? If there are christians there, maybe we could airlift them out, but leave the savages to themselves.

Night Owl on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

He’s still alive?

EddieC on March 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM

what a horrible idea, McCain has lost his marbles, makes me ill to think we’ve become the airforce of the Muslim Brotherhod, it’s bad enough when Baraka Hussien Obama brings in MB members into his administrationand acts as their muscle, but to have RINO’S licking his boots as well is pathetic

golembythehudson on March 5, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Hey, let’s help create a new calphate!

darwin on March 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM

“my friends…”

Jeddite on March 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM

McCain’s handler’s really shouldn’t let him talk to the media, especially when he is obviously off his meds. He sounds like Obama and the dems when they were supporting the Arab Spring. That really worked out well, didn’t it? Well, didn’t it?

Oracleforhire on March 5, 2012 at 6:33 PM

makes me ill to think we’ve become the airforce of the Muslim Brotherhod

golembythehudson on March 5, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Agreed.

Lawdawg86 on March 5, 2012 at 6:33 PM

It’s the ecomony, not Syria, not the fake “War on Woman”, not Rush, not condems…

… IT IS THE ECONOMY!!!

Why aren’t you talking about that John…?

Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Just a reminder, -Syria has a real air force and a real anti-aircraft infrastructure.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Perhaps if we resolve now to never vote one of his children into public office, John just might get the message and take one for Team McCain. Sure, it’s not fair to his sons, who might be halfway decent guys, but this man must be given the hook, since he clearly intends to stay in office for the rest of his life.

Christien on March 5, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Geesh, bash Rush and get in another war, batting 1000 today.

Cindy Munford on March 5, 2012 at 6:39 PM

For how many decades do we have to keep going down the same path before we begin to recognize the scenery?? I remember celebrating the heroic overthrow of the evil dictator Fulgensio Batiste in Havana,Cuba in 1959, when we helped bring the great freedom fighter Fidel Castro to power. How’d that little trick work out for us, Johnnie???
And to think I busted my a$$ trying to make this bonehead the President of the United States!!!

Lew on March 5, 2012 at 6:40 PM

I think I am for bombing California before taking on Syria!

GFW on March 5, 2012 at 6:41 PM

McCain gives the expression “a day late and a dollar short” a whole new meaning.

This old fart need to retire to the old age home for defunct RINOs and leave the rest of the country the hell alone. Too bad he was captured and tortured. That does not make you presidential material, OR competent to make statements regarding foreign policy.

He’s a used up jerk, same as his putz daughter, megan mcfatty. They need to just.go.away.

He gets NO respect from me, he GAVE us zerobama. For that alone he should be tried for treason.

Wolfmoon on March 5, 2012 at 6:42 PM

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Winner.

Apple tree, Meghan McCain might actually be smarter.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on March 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Shut up McCain.

Fuquay Steve on March 5, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Ba ba ba, bomb Syria,
Ba ba ba, bomb Syria,
Syria-a-a-a,
Bomb Syria-a-a,

mrt721 on March 5, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Uhh sure uhh let’s uhh give uhh Obamuhh uhh uhhnother uhh war uhh.

Gifted Orator Barack Obama Says a Staggering 96 “Uhhs” In Less Than 5 Minutes…

/It’s pronounced “Fluhhk”

Christien on March 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Are they considering The Bigel Option™, too?

Emperor Norton on March 5, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Try reading the Koran first, Senator.

It’s illuminating info.

You unclean infidel.

profitsbeard on March 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Lets just bomb everyone.

Flange on March 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

I’m thinking most people pretty much know McLame has zero credibility now. Oddly, ZERO is what he got us in 2008.

Coincidence? I think not.

Wolfmoon on March 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM

God forbid anyone listens to this idiot… if think that supporting Muslim America haters will gain you favor among these savages punch yourself in the face when you feel your very strongest

apocalypse on March 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

The foolishness of McCain’s neocon foreign policy has sold me on the wisdom of Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Career politician for the past 30 years = EXPIRED

apocalypse on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

apocalypse on March 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Typo. If (you) think supporting Muslim America haters will gain you favor among these savages punch yourself in the face right now

apocalypse on March 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

I remember celebrating the heroic overthrow of the evil dictator Fulgensio Batiste in Havana,Cuba in 1959, when we helped bring the great freedom fighter Fidel Castro to power. How’d that little trick work out for us, Johnnie???

Sad thing is that the U.S. had a chance (albeit small one) to turn Castro towards a pro-U.S. policy when Castro visited the U.S. in 1959. However, Eisenhower chose to play golf instead of meeting with him. Finally V-P Nixon met with him, but that’s definitely not the dude you wanted handling delicate diplomacy.

AngusMc on March 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

This is what you get when a has-been politician has an overload of self-importance and no responsibility.

hachiban on March 5, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Just a reminder, -Syria has a real air force and a real anti-aircraft infrastructure.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 6:38 PM

So did Iraq

Bunsin2 on March 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Yeah…because all those other bombings and invasions of Muslim countries ended up so successful….

These recent experiments in invading, but not wiping out most of the civilization (like in the days of long, long ago), unfortunately just does not work. Pound to rubble then rebuild with the few who is left seems to be the only model that works…unfortunately.

albill on March 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

What makes McCain this stupid?

Aplombed on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Years of exposure to DC

Bunsin2 on March 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Time for this crazy old coot to gather up the Beer Barroness and Miss Piggy and move to the middle of the desert, where they can live happily ever after and we will never hear from any of them again.

bw222 on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Yeah, we picked the winners in Libya and Egypt. How’s that working out for you, John?

Christien on March 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

+125,789

SparkPlug on March 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Mama always said, “Maverick is as Maverick does.”

Left Coast Right Mind on March 5, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Unfortunately neocons still rule the GOP media and there’s no way to stop this sort of thing. Low info voters have no idea how bad neocon foreign policy has failed us or that we are trading the future prosperity of our own children to nation-build our barbarian enemies, who will still brainwash their children to hate us regardless. If only more people understood but NY/DC media isn’t going to volunteer the fact that the neocon foreign policy that they’ve been pushing for years has been a fiasco, and if they did then three of the four candidates wouldn’t have a prayer to get elected.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Why hasnt he went away yet?

Politricks on March 5, 2012 at 6:12 PM

This…

Is McCain completely senile?

VorDaj on March 5, 2012 at 6:12 PM

and this…

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

and this…

When will this man go away?

He’s useless.

ButterflyDragon on March 5, 2012 at 6:18 PM

also this…

All we have to do is call Syria a slut and he’ll be all over us defending them.

Kelligan on March 5, 2012 at 6:20 PM

sprinkle some of this…

What makes McCain this stupid?

Aplombed on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

add this…

What is wrong with just letting them kill each other and leave us out of it? Who cares about muslim on muslim violence? If there are christians there, maybe we could airlift them out, but leave the savages to themselves.

Night Owl on March 5, 2012 at 6:26 PM

extra toppings, this…

Geesh, bash Rush and get in another war, batting 1000 today.

Cindy Munford on March 5, 2012 at 6:39 PM

finish with this…

Seriously…wtf McCain…seriously…

MooCow…out.

MooCowBang on March 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM

The same old primary voters that brought us McCain are going to bring us Romney. The Republican Party hasn’t changed one bit.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM

just what we need, like gas prices aren’t high enough already…

maineconservative on March 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM

the new boss in Syria after Assad falls is apt to look a lot like the new boss in Egypt now,

On the other hand, there’s a huge diffenece American-interests-wise between Mubarak and Assad. An evil bastard that isn’t Iran’s Man in the Arab world would be an improvement, IMHO.

Worth a shooting war… maybe not so much. Still, it wouldn’t be a step down like ine Egypt.

corncat on March 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM

The foolishness of McCain’s neocon foreign policy has sold me on the wisdom of Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

stop pimping ron paul, we don’t need a deranged lunatic for us to understand common sense

golembythehudson on March 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM

The Press just goes out of its way to let us experience this man.
Another way, that they can help JugEars!

KOOLAID2 on March 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Who is this old senile drunk fool?

antisocial on March 5, 2012 at 8:36 PM

It’s ok to dodder. And to be a warmonger, at times. But not an indiscriminate warmonger, like the cheerleading done for Obama’s prop up our enemy Libya mission. Be doddering, or a warmonger, but don’t bring them together, especially as our nominee when even conservatives had had their fill of war. I know… I’m a bit late on this.

anotherJoe on March 5, 2012 at 8:38 PM

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Willing to spill more American blood for a campaign commercial.

What we should do is arm both sides of any conflict in the ME and let them attrit themselves.

This serves two purposes:

1. We can say we helped whoever wins
2. Reduces the number of people who hate our guts

BobMbx on March 5, 2012 at 8:49 PM

McCain’s off his meds again..no wait, he isn’t on meds? hmm he’s just that crazy..you’d think after all those years being kept prisoner he wouldn’t like war too much but man, he sure likes it..

John..you want to know why we don’t want another war with a country that has no good outcome? LIBYA!!!

sadsushi on March 5, 2012 at 8:58 PM

McCOIN…Obama…………McCOIN ………..Obama?

It was the worst of times, it was the best worst of times.

Who does he think he is reaching out to this time? Who does he think is as stupid as he sounds anymore?

“finish the danged girls school”.

BL@KBIRD on March 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM

The foolishness of McCain’s neocon foreign policy has sold me on the wisdom of Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

That’s cruel.

BL@KBIRD on March 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Bomb the sh!t out of them. Carpet bomb them. Bomb them back to the stone age. Who cares? The leadership are Iranian/Russian stooges with interests directly hostile to the US. Why not stay somewhat consistent? The conditions for another Libya are met in Syria but nothing? What does that say about the Libya war? Can we at least say consistent.

Drop some bombs, fly some planes, launch some cruise missles. Blow sh*t up. Let our boys have at it and stay fresh. Thats what the US military lives for. Decimate their armed forces and decapitate the leadership. The people of the ME, they will respect that. Then leave them to their devices. Let the region implode. Only from destruction and death is failure truly cleansed from the landscape.

dip it in cider on March 5, 2012 at 10:01 PM

willing to fight Syria – but gutless against Barack during the 2008 campaign

ArthurMachado on March 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM

John McCain has always been better with his enemies/opponents from a distance. He also like standoff weapons. With them you don’t have to see the destruction up close and personal when you drop bombs and rockets.

belad on March 5, 2012 at 10:03 PM

The foolishness of McCain’s neocon foreign policy has sold me on the wisdom of Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

That’s cruel.

BL@KBIRD on March 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Reality can be that way sometimes.

MelonCollie on March 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM

The foolishness of McCain’s neocon foreign policy has sold me on the wisdom of Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

That’s cruel.

BL@KBIRD on March 5, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Also rather self-defeating. Trading in one crazy old coot for another?

MooCowBang on March 5, 2012 at 10:17 PM

If you wanna know where he broke… itwasn’t in HANOI!It took the U.S. senate to do that. As far as Syria, if it’s muslim-on-muslim…carry on,boys!

SMACKRUNNER on March 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You first Johnny Maverick, mount up flyboy and ride to the sound of the guns.

oryguncon on March 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Well if we bomb everyone in Syria waving a flag, fist, or gun it might turn out well.

Slowburn on March 6, 2012 at 12:42 AM

And one might wonder why the rest of the world thinks US foreign policy is a blunt instrument composed entirely of bombing. Whether Syria deserves it or not, even if Assad is lower than vermin. (He puts me in mind of a silverfish. I nearly gag whenever I see a pic of the chinless butcher.) Get thee a grip, McCain. Time to stop fretting about ‘foreign capitals.’ They DO NOT look to the US for leadership. They look to the US to do their dirty work. That might have been fine when we were a prosperous republic but we’re not anymore and we can’t afford it. It is not in the US best interest to point a thinned-out, demoralized military deeper into the Middle East. Especially when the Rooskis have as much as declared that they’d escalate if we do. There are factors working against modern institution-building and pluralistic democracy in that region. No amount of nation-building will let 21st century ideas get traction as long as Western leaders fail to acknowledge that the 7th century warrior death cult that has a vice grip on those cultures is not a ‘religion of peace.’ They never will do that. So support Israel to the hilt, and let the rest of those sewer countries rot.

Senators. Pfft. Heaven deliver us from the smart people.

curved space on March 6, 2012 at 8:27 AM

There are different reasons for and against an American air-bombing campaign on Assad’s military in Syria.

The overriding one is this: you (Americans, others…) are sitting on top of all these machines, namely fighter jets and munition, with all these capabilities and infrastructure, and a lot of it is just sitting there in its hangar, with the analysts and mechanics and air control people and organizational/logistical people behind all of the Air Force, just sitting, or training, or whatever it is that militaries do whenever they’re not in an active war, where only 10 hours of flight-time away there are killing fields and war crimes being committed – for many months now actually.

So you’re sitting there with all these tools at your disposal to stop the killing of civilians, and you aren’t doing it.

I wonder what that feels like…

AlexB on March 6, 2012 at 9:54 AM

John McCain suggests bombing Syria.

In other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

Film at 11.

Shump on March 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

It would be downright crazy to bomb Syria. Assad is a Baathist Saddam Hussein wannabe, but he has a much weaker army, much less land, and no oil, and the interest to the United States is…?

If Assad is inflaming his own people against him, the pro-Assad Syrian army will be preoccupied with maintaining order in Syria, and will have less resources available to occupy Lebanon and threaten Israel from the north. If we bombed Syria, the entire Syrian people would unite against the United States and Israel.

But if Assad’s army is tied up securing his own country, now might be a good time for Israel to chase Syrian forces out of southern Lebanon, especially those fond of lobbing missiles across the border and blowing up Israeli buses. But let Bibi make up his own mind on this–he doesn’t need the “wisdom” of SmartPower (TM).

Steve Z on March 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Well Johnny Mac – the only bomb I would approve off is the one that makes them glow in the dark for a couple of hundred years. Let’s drop that on them and all others in the region who want to piss us off.

rjulio on March 6, 2012 at 2:26 PM

The McCainiac is an idiot. The people behind the Arab Spring stuff are islamists. They want to consolidate the Maghreb and the Levant under a new Caliphate. So far the Egyptian Field Marshals have held on, and Assad has held on. As long as they do, the consolidation is not possible. If Assad loses, and the Generals fall, then Katy bar the door. The problem will be felt on three continents and the danger level will be very high.

As much as I detest Assad, he needs to win. It kinda feels like rooting for Satan, but a post Assad Syria will be a real trouble spot, and I don’t see Iraq holding out either. McCain needs to shut up and go home before he gets us into more trouble.

Quartermaster on March 6, 2012 at 6:58 PM

McCain is a fool. Syria, while we own them a good beating, is not a problem in the stability of the area so it should be left alone as Lybia should have been left alone.

You want to kick someone McClown? Kick Iran, they are the problem.

Sultanofsham on March 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM