Kirsten Powers on Rush and Sandra Fluke: Where’s the outrage at misogynistic liberal men?

posted at 4:57 pm on March 5, 2012 by Allahpundit

If you missed her widely linked Daily Beast item this weekend, read it now. Then read Treacher’s long look back at Our Moral Superiors’ most morally superior moments. The most interesting bit here is when Megyn Kelly asks whether she thinks liberals are genuinely offended by Rush but debilitated by a blind spot about their own side or whether they’re affecting outrageous outrage to put points on the partisan scoreboard. KP thinks it’s the former; I think the truth is in between. They are genuinely offended — not by the rhetoric, though, but by conservative opposition to abortion and support for prioritizing religious conscience above contraception coverage. That’s what makes Rush “anti-woman”; the “slut” name-calling is, supposedly, a window onto that deeper animus. Because Maher and Olbermann and Taibbi are, ahem, “pro-woman” on policy, they can be as personally nasty as they want and it’s not a window onto anything. The quintessential example of this is of course Ted Kennedy, whose career stands for the proposition that you can allegedly assault women and even leave a woman to die and be reelected for eternity so long as you vote the right way.

That is to say, for all of the left’s bleeding-heart smugness about “good intentions,” they’re remarkably bottom-line on this: So long as you support abortion and the rest of their packet on social issues, your actual intent when calling a woman a “mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick” is irrelevant. It’s an irrebuttable presumption of feminism, a de facto “get out of misogyny free” card. As a thought experiment, imagine, say, Maher suddenly declaring himself pro-life (that’s a mighty tough experiment, I know) and then calling a woman a “c*nt.” Think there’d be a response from the left then? I wonder, in fact, to what extent KP’s sensitivity to this is shaped by the fact that she’s pro-life herself. Must get tiresome for her to be accused of being a “self-hating woman” or whatever while left-wing heroes go around accusing their female critics of looking like pre-op transsexuals.

Apropos of nothing, my favorite comment on the endless Rush/Fluke saga comes from the Political Math guy, who points to this petition at the White House website calling on Panetta to drop Rush from Armed Forces Radio and quips, “Liberals have ‘moral objection’ to Rush, don’t want tax money paying him #SelfAwarenessFail”. Exit question via Guy Benson: Since we’re now all about organizations distancing themselves from media types who use “slut” rhetoric, when does Obama’s Super PAC plan on forfeiting Bill Maher’s $1 million donation?



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Your comment was simply over the line.

hawkdriver on March 5, 2012 at 6:31 PM

You’re right, and it was quite bigoted. I demand an apology in the name of non bigoted Americans everywhere.

Mimzey on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

i have a better question: why do you think going back to the tax rates of the Clinton years would make us Venezuela?

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 6:57 PM

OK, you can have the Clinton tax rates, but
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I want the Clinton spending levels. The FY 2001 budget was $1.9 trillion. Obama’s FY 2012 would be $3.8 trillion.

Deal? If not, then S T F U about your Clinton tax rates.*

* BTW, the top tax rates will be higher on 01.01.13 than they were under Clinton…automatically. With the Obamacare taxes entered in, the top rate will be 43.4%.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Sacramento on March 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

You didn’t see Newt’s response, did you…?

Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I wasn’t. but I think it’s perfectly fine to mock Robertson and Malloy

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

But you didn’t mention Malloy. Someone ELSE brought up Malloy, AFTER you mentioned Robertson. And you equated Robertson with all of us, as if we agreed with him. You mocked us.

You’re being very dishonest liberal right now.

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I find it ironic that Liberals, who claim to be the most tolerant among us, are actually the least tolerant of all.

kingsjester on March 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM

And you don’t wonder the same? You come on a thread about the “insensitivity” of a Conservative pundit and then mock other Americans who have died in violent weather? Because of their faith you think it’s funny and fair?

Can anyone explain this to me?

hawkdriver on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

for the last time I was mocking Pat Robertson!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM

….. the UN said no and we went around them. ……..
DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Yeah, that’s proof of his Conservatism right there. Looking to the UN as the authority.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Liberals don’t give a darn about women.

Schadenfreude on March 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM

No kidding … look how they treated Palin, the epitome of women’s lib.

A mother, a wife, a governor, an author, a commentator, a speaker and a businesswoman yet they hate her guts.

darwin on March 5, 2012 at 7:10 PM

And look how they treated Monica Lewinsky…here’s a case where an incumbent (Democrat) male President engaged in adultery with a female workplace subordinate, in the workplace, and then asked her to commit perjury, a felony crime.

NOW gave him a pass.

And then of course there was Paula “Trailer Trash” Jones…

Nope, no hypocrisy here, folks…

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM

I bet all those girls raped at the Occupy movement camps and told not to report the crime to the police could feel all that liberal love for women.

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Exit question via Guy Benson: Since we’re now all about organizations distancing themselves from media types who use “slut” rhetoric, when does Obama’s Super PAC plan on forfeiting Bill Maher’s $1 million donation?

Indeed, and when will Obama repudiate Maher’s comments? Sauce for the goose…

Owen Glendower on March 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

I bet all those girls raped at the Occupy movement camps and told not to report the crime to the police could feel all that liberal love for women.

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM

I would submit that they actually did ‘feel’ exactly how liberal’s love. Liberals use the suffering of others to make themselves feel good. Now respect, that is a completely different subject.

Bunsin2 on March 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

How is the “apology not accepted” by Fluke any different from the Afghan whackjob “apology not accepted”?

Sacramento on March 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Good point there, they are equally unreasonable.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM

not really the thread for it but yes it was. the UN said no and we went around them. do you think that war was worth losing thousands of americans? maiming tens of thousands? killing tens of thousands of civilians? costing us a trillion dolla

What was illegal about it? The UN has Had no say in anything.
Bush should have gone right in after Sadham violated the ceasefire agreement. He violated it for a decade before any action was taken. Once an agreement is reached..such as the ceasefire..and it is broken, no other justification is needed to resume the hot war.

Do you think we went there to “steal the oil”?

Mimzey on March 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

But you can not claim that such a law has anything remotely to do with “liberty.” If you say that it’s wrong for the government to require insurance companies to provide contraception coverage, but it’s right for the government to probe vaginas, you are a hypocrite of the first order.

Drew Lowell on March 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

What a distortion.

If a woman wants an abortion, she has to undergo exams anyway. They are MEDICALLY NECESSARY before the “procedure.” She has a choice in the matter, too. She can wait longer for her abortion, and have an abdominal ultrasound instead. educate yourself <—-LINK

There is also a difference between a state law and a federally mandated health insurance law, but I doubt you'd see the difference there.

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

liberal4life on March 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM
Quit whining.
I’m a woman too.
I’m not a victim. You are.
Guess women on the right are made out of better, tougher stuff.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

not really the thread for it but yes it was. the UN said no and we went around them.

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:01 PM

LMFAO! No treaty trumps the US Constitution, cf., 354 U.S. 1 (1957). Congress gave Bush authority under the AUMF and I say that as one, who opposed the war. Before you start prattling about the need for a “declaration of war,” just know that the hew-n-cry is one of Ron Paul’s revisionist history thingies like JFK calling Krushchev on his shoe-phone to end the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, who btw is called the “Father of the Constitution” for a reason, probably had a better grasp on the intent of the Founders as it pertains to the clause in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which requires that must “declare war.” According to Dr Paul, both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are illegal because Congress never declared war on either country. Further, he maintains that Korea and Vietnam were unconstitutional because there were no formal declarations of war. The fact of the matter is that neither the Constitution nor Federal law stipulate the form in which a declaration of war from Congress must take. So, it is sort of strange that there were no DECLARATIONS of WAR for the First Barbary War, which occurred during Jefferson’s Presidency, and the Second Barbary War, which occurred during Madison’s administration. In both cases (like both Afghanistan and Iraq), Congress granted prior AUTHORISATION to the President to wage war for both.

Were those “illegal” wars? Were Jefferson and Madison “war criminals,” too? Did they commit impeachable offences? Not according to the minutes from the Constitutional Convention.

“Mr. MADISON and Mr. GERRY moved to insert ‘declare,’ striking out ‘make’ war, leaving to the executive the power to repel sudden attacks.”

- Minutes from the Constitutional Convention, 17 August 1789

Madison reported that in the Federal Convention of 1787, the phrase “make war” was changed to “declare war” in order to leave to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks, but not to commence war without the explicit approval of Congress.

The Barbary Wars aren’t the only pre-Korean War examples of “non-declared” wars either. The Indian Wars lasted 46 years and were fought against the Apache Nation without a declaration of war and never more than a 90 day respite in all of the time. The Philippine-American War of 1898-1903 was “authorised,” but never formally “declared.”

The Framers’ entire purpose by substituting “declare” for “make” was to prevent the Executive from waging war without authorisation and unilaterally.

One can disagree as to whether or not we should have gone to either Afghanistan or Iraq, but neither was an illegal or unconstitutional war.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

But you didn’t mention Malloy. Someone ELSE brought up Malloy, AFTER you mentioned Robertson. And you equated Robertson with all of us, as if we agreed with him. You mocked us.

You’re being very dishonest liberal right now.

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

you are mistaken

Funny that this doesn’t bother the left:
Liberal radio host says God is smashing Bible-thumping tornado victims into little grease spots

whatcat on March 5, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Funny that this doesn’t bother the left:
Liberal radio host says God is smashing Bible-thumping tornado victims into little grease spots

whatcat on March 5, 2012 at 6:11 PM

yeah it’s sad they didn’t pray enough to keep the twisters away. oops I am channeling Pat Robertson there sorry about that (and you wonder why you guys get mocked)

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

for the last time I was mocking Pat Robertson!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM

So just so I understand, it’s ok to revel in the death of a small child during a tragic storm in order to make fun of those ‘Christians’.

Yep that’s some sensitivity there.

Bunsin2 on March 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I find it ironic that Liberals, who claim to be the most tolerant among us, are actually the least tolerant of all.

kingsjester on March 5, 2012 at 7:16 PM
+ 100.

When a conservative learns that I have Asperger’s-nothing changes.
When a Liberal learns that I have Asperger’s-their behavior turns patronizing.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

What was illegal about it? The UN has Had no say in anything.
Bush should have gone right in after Sadham violated the ceasefire agreement. He violated it for a decade before any action was taken. Once an agreement is reached..such as the ceasefire..and it is broken, no other justification is needed to resume the hot war.

Do you think we went there to “steal the oil”?

Mimzey on March 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

The UN did have something to say about how we went around the Security Council: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm

as for stealing the oil, no, because we don’t have their oil. no we were there to get Cheney and his defense contractor buddies rich and to have W’s revenge on Saddam for trying to kill his daddy

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

One can disagree as to whether or not we should have gone to either Afghanistan or Iraq, but neither was an illegal or unconstitutional war.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Clinton had his Tomohawks, and Obama has his Drones.

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Wow Kirsten. I thought the raises we’re given in January. Jeez.

Uppereastside on March 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

this convo has gone off the rails and i have to go I will be happy to debate Iraq/Afghanistan some other time (and I bet we would find plenty of areas of agreement) y’all have a good night

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

BOOOOSH SHI’ITE!!!!!

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Guess women on the right are made out of better, tougher stuff.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

No “guessing” about it.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Sears is done with Rush too. Soon he will be reduced to selling survival seeds

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I am a Dittohead and I didn’t know they were Rush’s sponsors. But oh well…that’s what you get for calling trash, trash. And I am being really nice. I avoided the show today like a plague and I dunno if I will listen the rest of the week till this crap dies down.

ProudPalinFan on March 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM

No treaty trumps the US Constitution, cf., Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957).

Fixed.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM

yeah it’s sad they didn’t pray enough to keep the twisters away. oops I am channeling Pat Robertson there sorry about that (and you wonder why you guys get mocked)

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

So, okay, somebody brought up Malloy first, but not by name.

You are the one who brought up Pat Robertson and equated him with us, right? You were mocking only Robertson, though. Not Malloy.

Make up your mind. Did you, or did you not, have a problem with what Malloy said? I’m confused by your tap-dancing.

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Others have most likely plowed this ground… But, how does a woman spend $3,000 in 3 years on contraception? From my experience, an IUD cost around $1,000 installed, and it lasted well over 3 years before it was removed so we could have another baby. I read recently that several of the big box stores are offering birth control pills for under $10 a month. For the law students at Georgetown, ten bucks a month for 36 months is a little short of $3k. In still looking for a way to spend $3k on contraception I found that one can buy 4,500 condoms of a well known brand online for that amount. 4,500 condoms in 3 years! Georgetown Law co-ed parents must be proud.

WestTexasBirdDog on March 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM

as for stealing the oil, no, because we don’t have their oil. no we were there to get Cheney and his defense contractor buddies rich and to have W’s revenge on Saddam for trying to kill his daddy

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Translation:

Halliburton!!!!!!!!!1@!!!!!!@!!!!

Bush lied!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!

Typical….

JannyMae on March 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM

as for stealing the oil, no, because we don’t have their oil. no we were there to get Cheney and his defense contractor buddies rich and to have W’s revenge on Saddam for trying to kill his daddy

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Hypocrisy Alert! Clinton, Kerry, Gore & Other Democrats Call for War Against Saddam’s Iraq

Here’s what Maerose Prizzi had to say:

“I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. … Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons.”

- Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D, CA) Addressing the US House of Representatives, 10 October 2002 Congressional Record, p. H7777

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM

So just so I understand, it’s ok to revel in the death of a small child during a tragic storm in order to make fun of those ‘Christians’.

Yep that’s some sensitivity there.

Bunsin2 on March 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

*sigh* ok I have to go but to clear this up for the last time this is the comment I was responding to and my reply:

Funny that this doesn’t bother the left:
Liberal radio host says God is smashing Bible-thumping tornado victims into little grease spots

whatcat on March 5, 2012 at 6:11 PM

yeah it’s sad they didn’t pray enough to keep the twisters away. oops I am channeling Pat Robertson there sorry about that (and you wonder why you guys get mocked)

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM

I was mocking ROBERTSON and uber-christians not the victims! but as Letterman said if you don’t get the joke it’s not your fault it’s my fault so I’m sorry I ever wrote it. The tornado is a true tragedy and for those of you saddened/affected by it take a look at this and tell me which side really cares about protecting people from these kinds of tragedies!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

of course we have compassion for the victims it’s heartbreaking just as most of us are very sad for the family of Andrew Breitbart. do you seriously think we like to see bad things happen to fellow Americans? the mocking is clearly of Pat Robertson and his ilk not the victims

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

My, that’s big of you. Such magnanimity.

squint on March 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Yep… It’s called CYA!

dominigan on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

I was mocking ROBERTSON and uber-christians not the victims

WTH is an uber-Christian-someone who really, really, really believes in Jesus??

melle1228 on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

A bit off topic here, but Levin has been taken off of our Clear Channel radio station here in Cleveland Ohio. He was ripped off of a Toledo Ohio station. Beck is gone at FOX, and now Rush is under attack for one faux pau exactly the same as we get from Bill Mayer and other libs with no apologies. Interestingly I found a site showing that Ron Paul’s supporters have made it their mission to get rid of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Levin. Then, the fact that Bain Capital, Romney’s company owns Clear Channel, which airs Limbaugh, Hannity, and Levin. I feel that we are being raped by both sides now. Whoever doesn’t kiss Romney’s or Paul’s rear end gets the shaft. We can’t let these conservative bastions on radio be cut. Write to Clear Channel and say enough is enough. Is it any wonder that Ron Paul and Romney are in bed together?

oneconcernedcitizen on March 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Ok, now I posted too quick. Your post showed up just before mine. Obviously we all have been quick to comment and slow to think. Sorry about that.

dominigan on March 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM

The tornado is a true tragedy and for those of you saddened/affected by it take a look at this and tell me which side really cares about protecting people from these kinds of tragedies!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Libs killed DDT resulting in the subsequent deaths of millions from malaria.

We win…

spinach.chin on March 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM

[B]irth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if “gender reassignment” surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
The title of the article . . . is “Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons” and was published in the Journal’s 2011 Annual Review.

Remember, as Byron York previously reported, Fluke was rejected as a last-minute substitute witness at a Feb. 16 committee hearing because staffers for Chairman Issa were unable to discover Fluke’s claim to expertise relevant to the subject of the hearing. This law school journal article is the sort of thing that might have been discovered about Fluke’s background, had the Democrats who put Fluke forward as a witness done so with the usual 72-hour advance notice. Here’s one brief quote from the article:

Transgender persons wishing to undergo the gender reassignment process frequently face heterosexist employer health insurance policies that label the surgery as cosmetic or medically unnecessary and therefore uncovered.

Now, imagine Fluke trying to defend this language about “heterosexist” policies in a public hearing, with Republican members of the committee questioning her about whether religious institutions (or private businesses, or taxpayers) should also be required to foot the bill for “gender reassignment.”

Congratulations, America: You’ve been scammed!

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:56 PM

The tornado is a true tragedy and for those of you saddened/affected by it take a look at this and tell me which side really cares about protecting people from these kinds of tragedies!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Oh please… Spare us the whining about “caring”. Good intentions aren’t enough; everybody has good intentions. You also have to have good ideas.

ghostwriter on March 5, 2012 at 8:00 PM

fluke-ishima 2012 has blown up because Rush has simply helped these activists advance their agenda.

While there is a huge case to be made for equal or greater rudeness on the left, there is absolutely no value and purpose for folks on the right to not simply, clearly and cleanly admit that what Rush said was inappropriate as well as inaccurate.

Two easy ways to think about this:

1. How far would Rush have to go before it would be universally condemned and no one even attempted to defend him or point out how poorly the other side behaves? If he called Fluke a f’ing b_tch, would that be enough? Is anyone here really saying it’s ok to call a woman a slut and a prostitute with no evidence?

2. Birth control pills, administered in a variety of forms (shot, nova ring, etc.) can cost around $75/month. Over three years of law school, that’s $2700. Add in an appointment or two for the prescription and $3000 might be high, but nothing ridiculous. If Fluke was simply talking about taking the pill, that says nothing about how many sexual partners she has or how often she has sex. No one anywhere has accused her of accepting money for sex. Rush might have had a bigger point he wanted to make, but he picked two inappropriate names to call someone, especially since he has no evidence for either of them. Nothing in Fluke’s testimony says anything about sex for money or the frequency or ease with which she engages in sex.

If you want to promote conservatism and all of the values supposedly associated with it, standing up for someone who calls people inappropriate names with no evidence will not get it done. Neither will saying to the left, “you do it too but worse.”

If folks are so clear that it’s inappropriate when Maher or Pelosi or whoever else calls someone rude names, take a deep breath, and simply admit, Rush made a stupid mistake. He didn’t know what he was talking about in relation to those two names he used, he was trying to be provocative and he screwed up.

If conservatives want to be able to focus on critical issues facing the US right now, there has to be the simple ability to admit when the message gets off track and be even clearer when the message is totally inappropriate.

Rickoxo on March 5, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Again, if you are going to go in front of Congress, and tell God, the world, and everybody else you need $3,000 worth of birth control to make it through the year, I’m sorry, but that’s comedy right there.

Substitute Beano for birth control. Saying I need some Beano to make it through an appearance on TV is one thing. Say you need $3000 worth of Beano to make it through the year, and SOMEBODY’s gonna make comments involving corks and eating too much Mexican food.

Sekhmet on March 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

apocalypse on March 5, 2012 at 5:11 PM

It’s spelled ‘Barbara’.
It’s not difficult to spell…and it may or may not also be my name-which may/may not be why I’m correcting you.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 5, 2012 at 8:05 PM

This law school journal article is the sort of thing that might have been discovered about Fluke’s background, had the Democrats who put Fluke forward as a witness done so with the usual 72-hour advance notice. Here’s one brief quote from the article:

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Which explains why this professional activist was presented as “23 year old ordinary coed” by her supporters and the MSM.

29Victor on March 5, 2012 at 8:12 PM

The tornado is a true tragedy and for those of you saddened/affected by it take a look at this and tell me which side really cares about protecting people from these kinds of tragedies!

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Oh say can you see, the concern troll in thee?

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 8:22 PM

29Victor on March 5, 2012 at 8:12 PM

The more that I learn about her history and associations, the more that it is beginning to appear that she is a lesbian — I’m not basing this on the hair, the comfortable shoes or the ‘stache.

While it is true that birth control pills can be used to regulate menstrual cycles — used them myself for that reason at one point — most people think “pregnancy prevention” when they hear “contraception.” If it were to emerge that she is a lesbian, I think that a whole lot of her martyrdom-sheen would wear off quickly…not because she is gay, but because people would feel misled. I’m not saying that they would be right. It’s just the way that it is.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

If it were to emerge that she is a lesbian, I think that a whole lot of her martyrdom-sheen

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

West Wing in her future???

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM

on March 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM
Quit whining.
I’m a woman too.
I’m not a victim. You are.
Guess women on the right are made out of better, tougher stuff.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

We have WOMEN!
They have s l u t s, t h i n g s, o b j e c t s, d e p e n d a n t s, e t c.

KOOLAID2 on March 5, 2012 at 8:43 PM

most people think “pregnancy prevention” when they hear “contraception.”

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Well, that is kinda what it means! :-)

I concur…which is why you heard Levin goading them into a lawsuit tonight. And Hoyer was encoraging it today. Levin and Landmark Legal with a chance to depo this chick…are you kidding me?

PLEASE make this happen!

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Levin’s point tonight was prescient. That the administration chooses to try and avail everyone in the US to birth control free of charge and not insulin for diabetics or chantix for smokers or drugs for cancer patients, not diet pills for obese…but birth control. That is what to stay on here. Their priorities are so effing far out of whack it bears repeating until we’re blue in the face.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

West Wing in her future???

Roy Rogers on March 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM

But, of course. She is so good at #Whining.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:53 PM

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 8:47 PM

She is a public figure under Sullivan and was before she testified.

I am begging them…with sprinkles and cherries and stuff.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Fluke is a Moocher, who is soon to get her Looters License from Georgetown Law.

Moochers just take a share of what the Looters steal from the public.. The public looses.

How old will she be when she does graduate ? Remember she started college at 11 yrs old??????

tomyj1 on March 5, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I am begging them…with sprinkles and cherries and stuff.
Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 8:55 PM

A zero risk case (cannot lose) where you get a shot at deposing and discovery. It’d be like Christmas morn.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 9:05 PM

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 9:05 PM

It would be a beautiful thing. I would take the case pro bono.

Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Report: Iran held nuclear test in N. Korea

German press says Tehran, Pyongyang collaborated on possibly more than one nuclear test in early 2010

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4198453,00.html

golembythehudson on March 5, 2012 at 9:11 PM

obama knew about those nuke tests for almost a year

golembythehudson on March 5, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Levin’s point tonight was prescient. That the administration chooses to try and avail everyone in the US to birth control free of charge and not insulin for diabetics or chantix for smokers or drugs for cancer patients, not diet pills for obese…but birth control. That is what to stay on here. Their priorities are so effing far out of whack it bears repeating until we’re blue in the face.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Further, the conditions you listed requiring drug treatment are real health problems. On the other hand, the desire for birth control pills or devices is driven purely by a lifestyle choice.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM

KirPow on Hannity right nowza.

ted c on March 5, 2012 at 9:20 PM

The war on women must stop before it is too late

liberal4life on March 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Too late for what, lefty?

Solaratov on March 5, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Further, the conditions you listed requiring drug treatment are real health problems. On the other hand, the desire for birth control pills or devices is driven purely by a lifestyle choice.
slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Yep. Liberal priorities.

They’re just so effing dirty.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM

So copays or percentages in your drug plan will apply for drugs you have to have to live, but birth control that women simply want must be free.

That’s just nuts.

slickwillie2001 on March 5, 2012 at 9:53 PM

outrage at misogynist liberal men died with the beginning of the bill clinton saga-or more precisely that’s when the hypocritical narrative that the left uses now was firmly, officially put in place. as i recall at the time one feminist author called billy bob out for his predation and abuse of women as well as lamenting hillary-who as part of that wave of 60s feminism should have known better- as his enabler-and that piece was published in the UK not america.

the leftist feminist credo might as well be ‘bros before hos’ because that’s in essence what they have allowed the left to do to their movement. as long as we get abortions we don’t need or require respect and equality under the law.

a man can use as many young women like towels up to an including an alleged rape but as long as he keeps the abortions legal no feminist will utter a word of disapproval. it was at this time feminists sold women out to preserve the right basically of males to have free access to them without the threat of any baby daddy complications. those who think this has anything to do even on the left with a woman’s rights to her own body are deluded-it’s men doling out a ‘right’ here and there to exact votes and support, manipulating women as they have so successfully and tragically manipulated african americans. it is no wonder that the bill clinton presidency oversaw and exploited the fruits of the explosion of racism and recrimination, of racial revenge that started with the arrest of rodney king. the shrapnel from that is still hitting us-it’s still intent on destroying us. and the left still uses it like they use women and abortion to ‘social justice’ and ‘free health care’ rights out of just about everyone.

but i have no delusions about the narratives largely bandied about on the right concerning women either. our society is at base predicated on the superiority of the male over the female. the attitude comes largely from religion but even psychiatry has changed the words about a bit to reflect the same basic ethos. while i am well aware of the hypocrisy of the left, i am on the right because that’s the only path left that contains factions that endorse the constitution, bill of rights and limiting the government’s reach into the lives of the citizens. it’s not because i find no misogyny (no matter how gently paternalistic and devoid of overt hatred) on the right.

mittens on March 5, 2012 at 9:55 PM

It appears that liberal women live up to my opinion of them as child-like, easily manipulated, fragile and weak when confronted with an ill mannered conservative man. When Conservative women are the target of the liberal men we seem to be able to square our shoulders and shake it off.

Just a little social study.

mojowt on March 5, 2012 at 10:17 PM

we were there to get Cheney and his defense contractor buddies rich and to have W’s revenge on Saddam for trying to kill his daddy

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

CBear was much funnier.

1. I assume you are talking about Halliburton? Some Inconvenient Truths about that company:

A. Their subsidiary KBR was in cahoots with Democrat Lyndon Johnson from the late 1930s until he died. He gave Halliburton/KBR numerous no-bid contracts during the Vietnam War.

2. Democrat pResident Bill Clinton gave Halliburton no-bid contracts during his own non UN sanctioned War of Choice in Kosovo.

3. In 2006-2007, Leftist Daddy Warbucks George Soros bought $61 million worth of the company.

4. In 2008, many Halliburton employees, including a Senior VP, donated to the O’bama Campaign.

5. In 2009, pResident O’bama Himself gave Halliburton a No-Bid Contract to help the US get out of Iraq.

Thanks for Playing!

Oh, PS:

It’s absolutely hilarious to see you brain-dead Leftists stupidly flog the tired old meme that the Iraq War was somehow “revenge” for Saddam’s trying to kill a former US President.

Anyone with a functioning brain stem knows that said assassination attempt was one of 12+ reasons cited in the 2002 Authorization. It was vetted, and voted on, and approved as one of the reasons to go into Iraq. For you to laugh this off shows your hatred of America.

G-

Del Dolemonte on March 5, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Bryan Preston had a good analysis of KP

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/05/why-im-not-impressed-with-kirsten-powers-take-on-rush/

Wigglesworth on March 5, 2012 at 10:25 PM

The fluke thing is actually good for GOP. When you have hole cards like $5 gas and an economy 2/3 do not feel good about you want your opponent to get something encouraging on the turn. Gives them a false sense of security. they will waste a month or two on this which will piss people off when gas is 4.50 to 4.75 by Memorial day. Does anyone out there really thinks the average joe gives a crap what anyone says about anyone when he looks in his wallet? If the answers yes, you are a liberal and an idiot.

rik on March 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM

What is this!!

Why didn’t anyone jip Netanyahu’s speech~! ?

wtf

amend2 on March 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM

About the only thing that Rush Limbaugh’s slut comment did was point out the liberal hypocrisy on rhetoric. I’m personally sick of calling liberals out, on comments by Maher, to only have them tell me, “Oh, I didn’t like that at all.” and yet their leadership and the media, which claims to represent them, can remain silent with little or no consequence.

This is what happens when Liberals control the media. What small section of the entire media Conservatives control is minor, compared to what liberals control. They make up the rules, as they go along, and they get away with it because Conservatives refuse to use the same tactics as liberals do.

If they called for a boycott of HBO because of Maher’s comments and kept calling for it day in and day out, like liberals do, perhaps they could accomplish something. The point is Conservatives believe in free speech, liberals don’t. Conservatives don’t like it when Maher calls Laura Ingraham a slut, yet those, who would take away a conservatives free speech for doing the same thing, are silent.

There comes a time when we have to look at what the definition of a free press is and take control of this. As a Conservative, I cancelled my subscription to the Palm Beach Post, after the 2008 election. It was obvious to me, at that time, the media never vetted Obama, never intended to vet Obama, and intended to destroy anything that could possibly inhibit Obama from getting election (Sarah Palin). If we don’t hold them accountable, by cancelling our subscriptions to them, they have the power to continue this. The New York Times has less power today, than they did in 2000. If more conservatives cancelled their subscriptions, they would have even less power. It’s really time for action on many fronts.

bflat879 on March 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM

You didn’t see Newt’s response, did you…?

Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Excellent response.

AshleyTKing on March 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Libs do their dirty work for noble reasons, so they’re never ashamed of calling evil women like Bachmann or Palin pigs, sluts, whores, c–ts, or whatever else is politically motivating to their shame-free constituency and makes them giggle like 9 year olds with their first nudie pix.

They are absolved from all wrongdoing because they act from the purest motives.

Which means you can do anything vile and feel splendid.

Much like the commies used to excuse their depredations for their Utopian ideals.

The class enemies deserve to be excoriated!

profitsbeard on March 5, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Rush is a multimillionaire, with ample means to investigate Fluke and treat her to full “Joe the Plumber” treatment. If he’s unwilling to do that, he simply deserves everything that’s coming his way.

Bottom line is that conservatives simply don’t have the courage of their convictions.

The Resolute Desk on March 5, 2012 at 10:38 PM

They are absolved from all wrongdoing because they act from the purest motives.

They are absolved because they are in favor of abortions for all. Anybody who is against abortions is stoooopid and unsophisticated and deserving of whatever vile and obscene derision that comes their way.

Right Mover on March 5, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Megyn Kelly and Kirsten Powers at the same time.

I couldn’t concentrate on a thing they said.

Lawrence on March 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Louis C.K. to Perform at Radio and TV Correspondents’ Dinner  

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RTCA-Dinner/82277798978

If you use Facebook please comment on their disgusting choice of a speaker. This is the slime ball who attacked Sarah Palin and her family. If you have time please comment over there.

Be Breitbart!

idesign on March 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Bryan Preston had a good analysis of KP

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/05/why-im-not-impressed-with-kirsten-powers-take-on-rush/

Wigglesworth on March 5, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Spot on. She loves playing both sides.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The quintessential example of this is of course Ted Kennedy, whose career stands for the proposition that you can allegedly assault women and even leave a woman to die and be reelected for eternity so long as you vote the right way.

Yeah, that says it all right there.

Of course, they spin it as a tragic accident, make excuses for the “Liberal Lion” and of course bury this crime with a big ? as a headstone epithet. Basically they treat the Kennedys as some kind of a well-meaning yet quirky, yet somehow regal TV family who were just unlucky episode after episode-but definitely were all around swell.

Wonder when Oliver Stone’s going to make a film about Chappaquiddick?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 5, 2012 at 11:13 PM

If Ms. Fluke REALLY cared about the “Powerlessness” of really powerless woman she would be fighting for the rights of all the woman of the third world countries that literally have “ZERO” rights let alone free birth control pills.

Woman in America have been targeted long enough by the left and their ridiculous version of “Woman’s rights” Hey Ms. Fluke stop worrying about Rush he’s not your REAL problem.

ActinUpinTexas on March 5, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Sears? Whatsa sears?

AttaBoyLuther on March 5, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Wigglesworth on March 5, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Thanks, Wigggles.

I miss Bryan. This place has gone steadily downhill since he departed… until recently when is has sunk faster and lower than the Titanic.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Calling a WOMYN a SLUT is BAD, BAD, BAD!
but…
Calling a WOMAM a CUNT is FINE, FINE, FINE!
Resist We Much on March 5, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Caling a woman is slut is perfectly acceptable as long at it is preceded by “right-wing” – then its OK and even cheered.

lonestar1 on March 5, 2012 at 11:49 PM

The war on women must stop before it is too late

liberal4life on March 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM

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It’s already too late for many of them… Those who have already been coerced or guilted into aborting a baby, and the half of those babies who were women…
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RalphyBoy on March 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Rush is a multimillionaire, with ample means to investigate Fluke and treat her to full “Joe the Plumber” treatment. If he’s unwilling to do that, he simply deserves everything that’s coming his way.

Bottom line is that conservatives simply don’t have the courage of their convictions.

Investigate what? To prove what he said about her is “true”?

Rush is not going to go down because this, but he is not stupid. By keeping this story alive he can only cause more trouble for himself and anyone associated with him. Just let it go so we can start talking about gas prices.

legalimmigrant on March 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Bottom line is that conservatives simply don’t have the courage of their convictions.
The Resolute Desk on March 5, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Paint with a broad brush much?

They aren’t conservatives if they don’t have the courage of their convictions.

Although if you had rephrased the statement to say that Leftists do tend to have courage in their convictions.

Much like a mugger who is absolutely certain that they should have what is in their victim’s wallet or purse.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Bottom line is that conservatives simply don’t have the courage of their convictions.
The Resolute Desk on March 5, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Paint with a broad brush much?

They aren’t conservatives if they don’t have the courage of their convictions.

LegendHasIt on March 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM

So you paint with a broad brush after criticizing someone else for painting with a broad brush? WONDERFUL.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2012 at 12:06 AM

gryphon202 on March 6, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Oh, I see where I went wrong.
Not realizing that he meant Republicans, not conservatives.

Mea Culpa

LegendHasIt on March 6, 2012 at 12:08 AM

gryphon202 on March 6, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Oh, I see where I went wrong.
Not realizing that he meant Republicans, not conservatives.

Mea Culpa

LegendHasIt on March 6, 2012 at 12:08 AM

I don’t think being conservative, or more to the point considering oneself conservative, automatically means one has the courage of one’s convictions. If that were the case, we’d all demand our elected representatives follow the constitution to the letter in its original intent under pain of nullification.

gryphon202 on March 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I don’t think being conservative, or more to the point considering oneself conservative, automatically means one has the courage of one’s convictions. If that were the case, we’d all demand our elected representatives follow the constitution to the letter in its original intent under pain of nullification.
gryphon202 on March 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Well, Maybe you are correct in toto, but I disagree…. with the major thesis anyway.

The minor thesis of CONSIDERING ones self conservative, you are sadly correct… Because every day here I see dozens who consider themselves to be conservative, but are not.

LegendHasIt on March 6, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Rush is not going to go down because this, but he is not stupid. By keeping this story alive he can only cause more trouble for himself and anyone associated with him. Just let it go so we can start talking about gas prices.

legalimmigrant on March 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Rush can talk about what Rush wants to talk about. He doesn’t make policy. He doesn’t have the power to tax. He is a private citizen.

To my dying day I will never understand people’s demands on radio talk show hosts. They foist their own insecurities on them and then blame everyone else.

It is remarkable.

tom daschle concerned on March 6, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Sears is done with Rush too. Soon he will be reduced to selling survival seeds

DBear on March 5, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Sears ? LMFAO. Get real. Ed Lampert ran Sears into the ground years ago,especially when he combined them with …wait for it…K~Mart. K~Shart just hasn’t stopped breathing. Yet. Sears looks like they’ll need their own survival seeds. Maybe DBear would like to sponsor an ad on Limbaughs show in Sears stead. Probably be the most “a$$” he ever got in his lifetime.

1/ Thanksgiving Day Massacre: Sears Slaughtered On Collapsing Margins, To Shutter Hundreds Of Stores, Provides Revolver Update. 2011.

2/Egan-Jones Downgrades Sears To Lowest Rating Above Default

NEW YORK (Reuters) – CIT Group Inc will again stop providing loans to suppliers of Sears Holdings Corp after Tuesday as the business lender awaits more information on the retailer’s financial health, two retail sources told Reuters on Monday.

CIT is keeping the operator of Sears department stores and the Kmart discount chain on a tight leash, the sources said, after the company posted 18 straight quarters of sales declines.

Sears is scheduled to report annual results on February 23, when Chairman Edward Lampert typically publishes a letter to shareholders. The hedge fund manager is Sears’ largest shareholder and owns directly and through related entities about 59 percent of the retailer.

CIT and other finance companies, known in the industry as factors, provide short-term loans to manufacturers while they are waiting to be paid by those receiving their goods or services. CIT’s payables represented less than 5 percent of inventories, Sears has said in the past.

If lenders like CIT refuse to finance Sears’ suppliers, it could force the retailer to draw on its line of credit to pay for goods up front. If too many vendors seek prepayment, banks could be pressured and cut back on lines of credit for Sears, making it harder for the company to buy inventory.

CIT, run by Wall Street executive John Thain, had initially halted loans to Sears suppliers in early January, just weeks after the company posted dismal holiday sales numbers and said it would close as many as 120 stores.

It now seems like that was a temporary arrangement.

“People are recognizing that they don’t have to be in harm’s way and really go out on the limb when there is so much other business out there that they would deem to be of real quality,” said one of the sources, who has learned that CIT is not writing any new business for Sears after Tuesday, January 31, 2012.

SEARS.LMFAO. SPHINCTER.

DevilsPrinciple on March 6, 2012 at 3:35 AM

I just wrote Pro Flowers and Carbonite. I can’t cancel the Carbonite as I need it, but told them I wouldn’t be suggesting their services to friends and family anymore as in the past.

As for Pro Flowers, will go back to FTD. Both these companies I found out about specifically from Rush and Mark Levin.

Cripes is this pathetic. I don’t even live in the US and am annoyed by the media coverage just knowing how the US media behaves. It is infantile. I’d rather watch Putin take his shirt off and ride a horse than watch even Fox News miss the point of this entire “faux” controversy.

By the way, Rush may have used the wrong word to describe Fluke originally, but now you can certainly describe her as a “whore”… as in “Sandra Fluke is the newest victimized “whore” for the left getting free trips and airtime for her “cause”.

PS. I’m a woman. I call them like I see them.

Renwaa on March 6, 2012 at 4:32 AM

You’re seeing what happens. Because you’re not rewarding “decency”, you’re rewarding indecency in the name of civility.

I intend to coarsen. I want stark contrasts drawn. I want polarization. I want “moderates” to pick a side. I will not quietly accept socialism so as not to upset anyone. I am not tolerant of our impending and increasing slavery.

We’re at a fork in the road. There is no middle path. Time to choose. And there is no time to whine about the people explaining this to you.

-Pablo says March 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm

SilverDeth on March 6, 2012 at 4:51 AM

I just wrote Pro Flowers and Carbonite. I can’t cancel the Carbonite as I need it, but told them I wouldn’t be suggesting their services to friends and family anymore as in the past.

As for Pro Flowers, will go back to FTD. Both these companies I

found out about specifically from Rush and Mark Levin.

Cripes is this pathetic. I don’t even live in the US and am annoyed by the media coverage just knowing how the US media behaves. It is infantile. I’d rather watch Putin take his shirt off and ride a horse than watch even Fox News miss the point of this entire “faux” controversy.

By the way, Rush may have used the wrong word to describe Fluke originally, but now you can certainly describe her as a “whore”… as in “Sandra Fluke is the newest victimized “whore” for the left getting free trips and airtime for her “cause”.

PS. I’m a woman. I call them like I see them.

Renwaa on March 6, 2012 at 4:32 AM

You most certainly don’t need carbonite. For a faction of the price, you can get an external HD, and not have to worry about them snooping through your data to sell to marketeers. Simply back up your critical files at night.

Also, there are other services available that do the exact same thing as carbonite without data-mining you.

SilverDeth on March 6, 2012 at 4:53 AM

You’re seeing what happens. Because you’re not rewarding “decency”, you’re rewarding indecency in the name of civility.

I intend to coarsen. I want stark contrasts drawn. I want polarization. I want “moderates” to pick a side. I will not quietly accept socialism so as not to upset anyone. I am not tolerant of our impending and increasing slavery.

We’re at a fork in the road. There is no middle path. Time to choose. And there is no time to whine about the people explaining this to you.

-Pablo says March 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm

SilverDeth on March 6, 2012 at 4:51 AM

This strategy will push the moderates to choose the wrong side for the wrong reasons. It doesn’t help things; it makes it worse.

ghostwriter on March 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM

Rush can talk about what Rush wants to talk about. He doesn’t make policy. He doesn’t have the power to tax. He is a private citizen.

To my dying day I will never understand people’s demands on radio talk show hosts. They foist their own insecurities on them and then blame everyone else.

It is remarkable.

tom daschle concerned on March 6, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Rush acted like a jerk, and people from both sides of the aisle criticized him for it. I don’t see what is so hard to understand here.

ghostwriter on March 6, 2012 at 5:59 AM

Spot on. She loves playing both sides.

CycloneCDB on March 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Some might say that she’s calling it down the middle.

ghostwriter on March 6, 2012 at 6:03 AM

This strategy will push the moderates to choose the wrong side for the wrong reasons. It doesn’t help things; it makes it worse.

ghostwriter on March 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM

“Moderates” are whiny poltroons waiting to be led by the nose. What does that make those who actually worry about what moderates do? From what I’ve seen, moderates are mostly liberals too gutless to admit it anyway. Real independents aren’t very moved by this silliness and I expect them to be intelligent enough to see through the BS and choose wisely this November. If you choose to believe poll numbers this far out, independents are streaming away from Turdboy.

swinia sutki on March 6, 2012 at 6:27 AM

This was never about what he said. Liberals have said worse. This is a war…for the soul of our nation.

kingsjester on March 6, 2012 at 6:51 AM

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