Santorum’s Ohio delegate problem

posted at 1:00 pm on March 3, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

As Ed already reported, the race in Ohio is looking like it will come down to the wire between Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. The most recent momentum seems to be on Romney’s side, but Santorum could still pull it out at the 11th hour. But even if Rick Santorum manages to win in the Buckeye state, he may not win win. As it turns out, he could take the popular vote and still lose as many as 25% of the state’s delegates. The reason is that once again a campaign may have failed to field the required ground game needed to dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s.

Even if Rick Santorum wins Ohio on Super Tuesday, he won’t be able to claim all of its delegates. In fact, he is at risk of forfeiting more than one-quarter of them.

In three of the state’s 16 congressional districts, including two that are near Ohio’s border with Pennsylvania, Santorum will lose any delegates he might have won because his campaign failed to meet the state’s eligibility requirements months ago.

Those three districts alone take 9 delegates out of a total of 66 off the table for Santorum.

But it gets worse: Nine more Ohio delegates may also be in jeopardy.

Sources say that in six other congressional districts — the third, fourth, eighth, tenth, twelfth and sixteenth — Santorum submitted fewer names than required to be eligible for all three delegates up-for-grabs in each district.

That means even if he wins in those places, he might not be able to receive the full contingent of delegates.

Santorum, much like Newt, was struggling in the early going with a poorly funded and largely overlooked campaign. The national map for this election is vast and complex, with different rules applying in nearly every state in terms of election laws and requirements. We already saw how Virginia slipped away from everyone except Mitt and Ron Paul for precisely the same reason.

This is one area where experience really counts, and I’m not talking about experience in leadership, legislation or governing. The very act of running a political campaign requires an entirely separate set of skills and talent. Romney has been through this process once from beginning to end and his well funded team knew all the rules. The same can be said for Ron Paul. Santorum and Gingrich lacked that experience and depth of talent on the bench and seem to be paying the price for that lack of preparation over and over again.

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PPP just tweeted that their first night of polling has Romney ahead in Ohio.

Jon0815 on March 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM

I thought campaigns might have learned from the Perry/Gingrich/etc failures on the Virginia ballot. Guess not. Will they blame everyone else except themselves again?

mythicknight on March 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The delegate count, at this point, is meaningless. And if Santorum wins the district, no other candidate gets them either. Santorum would get the delegates at the convention.

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM

This is getting tiresome. Romney as the nominee has been a foregone conclusion since 2009. Go ahead and get it over with so we can see some of that awesome Mitt PAC firepower against Obama. LOL, yeah right.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

The hardest thing for Santorum to learn, it seems, is that campaigns have to offer up the good sound bites, and avoid the bad sound bites. Because, that’s all that most of the public will ever see or hear.

RBMN on March 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

It’s a tie!

Rusty Allen on March 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Will they blame everyone else except themselves again?

mythicknight on March 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The Campaigns: “Why– that sounds like a STUPENDOUS IDEA!” *hits snooze alarm and goes back to sleep.*

The Nerve on March 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The pollsters and establishment shills are in hyper overdrive to give us Romney which guarantees 4 more years of Obama.

See how easy this is to analyze?

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM

You know what Santorum has never had to do? Grapple with the hard decisions that come with leadership.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Neither has Romney. He just did what was politically expedient in his 3 years or so as governor.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Okay I’m scratching my head here… I was just trying to figure out how early Presidential candidates like Lincoln et al could’ve navigated this kind of bureaucratical nightmare of getting delegates in an age of the pony express and I just realized…

The primary system didn’t exist back then. There were no delegates and there were no primaries. All political parties caucused to choose their candidate and then you got yourself on the state ballot for election day itself.

With the gaming of the primary system (so-called open primaries in which I recall my publik school education rambling on about how great they were because you could choose any candidate) and now this debacle (along with the 2008 Democrat debacle)… I think I’d like to see the system abolished and a return to the caucus system. If the Republican party would caucus Romney by choice than it would be far easier to start a competing party (ala Lincoln) and get their candidate nominated.

Primaries have just turned voters into blind consumers of voting for coke or pepsi and absolved them from the effort of actually politicking.

Skywise on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Solution: Vote for Newt in Ohio and TN where he is actually qualified in all congressional districts…

Time for another Newt comeback…

jules on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

You know what Santorum has never had to do? Grapple with the hard decisions that come with leadership.
He’s never had to look at a budget and decide what can stay and what has to be cut or trimmed.
He’s never had to deal with the consequences or the responsibility of making a hard choice in a leadership position. His votes in Congress show that he votes to get along.
We already have someone like that in the White House. Someone who has not the courage or the ability to make the hard decisions.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

You know what Santorum has never had to do? Grapple with the hard decisions that come with leadership.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Neither has Romney. He just did what was politically expedient in his 3 years or so as governor.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Wait a second. This is weird. Am I jumping into the future? LOL

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Anyone care to explain how RS can win the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on March 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

People should vote for Newt if they don’t like Romney. He is at least competent.

Rusty Allen on March 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM

You know what Santorum has never had to do? Grapple with the hard decisions that come with leadership.
He’s never had to look at a budget and decide what can stay and what has to be cut or trimmed.
He’s never had to deal with the consequences or the responsibility of making a hard choice in a leadership position. His votes in Congress show that he votes to get along.
We already have someone like that in the White House. Someone who has not the courage or the ability to make the hard decisions.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

That has nothing to do with campaigning skill. The person you brought up has proven that–Barack Obama.

RBMN on March 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

I big thank you goes out to Newt Gingrich. By staying in the race he guarantees a Romney nomination. Thanks, Newt, for being an egomaniacal con artist and narcissist. Romney couldn’t have done it without you.

NickDeringer on March 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Anyone care to explain how RS can win the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on March 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

He can’t. It was always going to be Romney. It’s his turn. Frankly, I’ll be glad to see it. Time for the moderates to put up or shut up. Show us how to win, mods.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM

There’s more: Santorum only met the requirements to appear on ballot in 4 of the 18 Illinois districts as well.

Romney, Paul and Newt decided to not challenge the lack of signatures, so he’ll be on the ballot. Classy of them, I suppose; I do find it contrary to the interests of the party though. At this level, we can’t allow candidates who can’t organize a campaign properly have a pass. A presidential campaign isn’t the adequate setup for on-the-job training.

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM

This primary race gets more goofy by the day. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Rick. Appearances are everything.

Philly on March 3, 2012 at 1:18 PM

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

You know what Romney has never had to do?
He has never had to be a conservative in government. He has never authored the biggest entitlement reform in history and then got it passed through a hostile senate. He has never run for senator as a pro-life candidate. He has never been against bailouts for Wall Street. He has never advocated for the middle class, the unborn or for the working class.

Mitt has never had the courage to be a conservative when it mattered. His record shows that he goes along with liberal democrats.

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Romney, Paul and Newt decided to not challenge the lack of signatures, so he’ll be on the ballot. Classy of them, I suppose; I do find it contrary to the interests of the party though. At this level, we can’t allow candidates who can’t organize a campaign properly have a pass.

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Can’t have competition for Mitt, either.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Mitt has never had the courage to be a conservative when it mattered.

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:18 PM

BINGO.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Anyone care to explain how RS can win the nomination?
MeatHeadinCA on March 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM
He can’t. It was always going to be Romney. It’s his turn. Frankly, I’ll be glad to see it. Time for the moderates to put up or shut up. Show us how to win, mods.
ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM

I’m at that point. Time for them to pull some weight.

MeatHeadinCA on March 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM

The hardest thing for Santorum to learn, it seems, is that campaigns have to offer up the good sound bites, and avoid the bad sound bites. Because, that’s all that most of the public will ever see or hear.

RBMN on March 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

You just know someone on the Sunday talk shows is going to ask for his opinion of Sandra Fluke’s morals. Will he take the bait?

a capella on March 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I big thank you goes out to Newt Gingrich. By staying in the race he guarantees a Romney nomination. Thanks, Newt, for being an egomaniacal con artist and narcissist. Romney couldn’t have done it without you.

NickDeringer on March 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Conservatives can always count on Newt to throw them under the bus.

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Neither Newt nor Santorum had any hope of winning the nomination…Hence, their failure to meet requirements in all fifty states. They ran to garner attention, speaking invitations and to sell books. In point of fact, they have used the Republican party to pay their bills and enrich themselves. Not sure how the system can be improved but the grifters are a huge distraction. They have done irreparable damage to party unity. Our eventual nominee will arrive on the National stage bloodied and damaged as a result of this ridiculous primary season…They should be ashamed.

Nozzle on March 3, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Maybe this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_si-JVfhI&feature=youtu.be

will help, send to your Ohio friends!

ConcealedKerry on March 3, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Wait a second. This is weird. Am I jumping into the future? LOL

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

You’re just like my husband. He always knows what I’m thinking…LOL

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:22 PM

You know what Santorum has never had to do? Grapple with the hard decisions that come with leadership.
He’s never had to look at a budget and decide what can stay and what has to be cut or trimmed.
He’s never had to deal with the consequences or the responsibility of making a hard choice in a leadership position. His votes in Congress show that he votes to get along.
We already have someone like that in the White House. Someone who has not the courage or the ability to make the hard decisions.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Doing those things might make him want to throw up.

TedInATL on March 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Neither Newt nor Santorum had any hope of winning the nomination…Hence, their failure to meet requirements in all fifty states. They ran to garner attention, speaking invitations and to sell books.

Nozzle on March 3, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Hmmmm…so what’s been Romney’s motivation for the past 6 years? What’s Paul’s motivation?

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM

This is one area where experience really counts, and I’m not talking about experience in leadership, legislation or governing. The very act of running a political campaign requires an entirely separate set of skills and talent. Romney has been through this process once from beginning to end and his well funded team knew all the rules.

But Romney and Paul qualified last cycle, too, right?

I mean, this isn’t some overly complex process that you have to run through a time or two before you get the hang of it. It’s not like Romney is learning from his mistakes in 2008…he didn’t make these amateur-hour mistakes that Santorum is making.

You want to be president? You have to be organized and competent. Period.

Paul and Romney are running more competent organizations than Gingrich and Santorum.

BocaJuniors on March 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Cardinal Sanctimonious does not have enough management ability to put together his Spanish Inquisition.

galtani on March 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Romney, Paul and Newt decided to not challenge the lack of signatures, so he’ll be on the ballot. Classy of them, I suppose; I do find it contrary to the interests of the party though. At this level, we can’t allow candidates who can’t organize a campaign properly have a pass.

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Can’t have competition for Mitt, either.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM

What? Did you read what I wrote? Romney could have Santorum kicked out of the ballot in 14/18 Illinois CDs and decided to not challenge.

Are you really saying Santorum’s pitifully amateur mistakes are Romney’s fault?

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM

He has never advocated for the middle class, the unborn or for the working class.

You’re ill informed about that. He did. Someone here yesterday listed all the things he did to preserve life. You ignored it.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Is the picture heading up the thread taken while Sanctimonious whined about delegate counts from Michigan?

galtani on March 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I’m not crazy about ANY OF THE FOUR we have left to pick from.

but……There is only one option /hope to get a more LIMITED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and that’s Santorum.

The Ohio problem is just a symptom of a campaign dealing with a lot of administrative issues as opposed to a money laden political machine like Mitt has that’s been grinding on for the Presidency since what 2006?

Possum Holler has signs all around for you Rick.

We’re a votin for ya on Tuesday.

PappyD61 on March 3, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Are you really saying Santorum’s pitifully amateur mistakes are Romney’s fault?

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM

No, I’m saying Romney’s so weak you’ll cheer any old way to minimize the competition. Carpet-bombing states with negative ads, disingenuous attacks on the stump, ballot technicalities, whatever.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Are you really saying Santorum’s pitifully amateur mistakes are Romney’s fault?

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM

No, I’m saying Romney’s so weak you’ll cheer any old way to minimize the competition. Carpet-bombing states with negative ads, disingenuous attacks on the stump, ballot technicalities, whatever.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Wait, what? Santorum fails to meet the requirements in 14 out of 16 districts; Romney (and the other candidates, for that matter) allow him to stay on ballot anyway and what you take from this is that Romney is using ballot technicalities to minimize the competition? When in fact he did the exact opposite? Wow.

I’m not even sure what to say about this. Another demonstration that some of the opposition to Romney is completely irrational and has no reasonable basis. It’s mindless anger motivate by God knows what.

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

I thought campaigns might have learned from the Perry/Gingrich/etc failures on the Virginia ballot. Guess not. Will they blame everyone else except themselves again?

mythicknight

You know they will. Just look at Michigan and how they blamed “The Establishment’ for Virginia. Seems Romney and Paul have the major league teams, the rest are playing in the minors.

Zaggs on March 3, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Wait, what? Santorum fails to meet the requirements in 14 out of 16 districts; Romney (and the other candidates, for that matter) allow him to stay on ballot anyway and what you take from this is that Romney is using ballot technicalities to minimize the competition?

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Uh, no. Listen carefully. I’m saying Romney is so weak that you and the rest of the ‘bots always greet stories of the ridiculous ballot technicalities — and the possibility that some rivals may be left off — with glee. I don’t find the fact that Romney has the run-for-president routine down pat to be terribly impressive, to be honest.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM

I’ve been for Santorum but he’s dropping like a rock. But Newt has 3 out of 4 uptick days, and shockingly amazingly if the trends continue Newt will be ahead of Santorum nationally within 3 days: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

If fish or cut bait for Not Romney fans. We need a horse to ride, quick, or we’re stuck with MA Mitt. Consider Newt.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

He’s a 3rd rate candidate being propped up by Romney haters and a superpac.

rubberneck on March 3, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Uh, no. Listen carefully. I’m saying Romney is so weak that you and the rest of the ‘bots always greet stories of the ridiculous ballot technicalities — and the possibility that some rivals may be left off — with glee. I don’t find the fact that Romney has the run-for-president routine down pat to be terribly impressive, to be honest.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Why is this about Romney? Every single candidate made the ballot except Santorum. Every single one gave him a pass. And yet you manage to turn that into a bitter rant on how you hate Romney? Sad.

If Romney is weak, what exactly do you call Santorum? What adjective will you use?

joana on March 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

The outcome has long been a foregone conclusion. I said right after Perry’s 1st or 2nd debate that there was only one candidate in this race. The only question was whether it would be over by the End of Jan or by Super Tuesday. So SC made answer Tuesday.

Mitt has run a brilliant campaign. He has not caved in to the radical nabobs demanding that he pander to them and alienate the rest of America. He has not given in to the so-called SoCons and he will owe them nothing both in the primaries and the general election.

Mitt Romney will be a great President because of his brilliant economic and managerial competence and also because he will not be beholden to special interests on the right or the left. We will have, for the first time in an awfully long time, a POTUS who will be his own man!

Now, let’s talk about Veeps :-)

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

You know what? I just don’t care anymore.

JPeterman on March 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

…and Santorum doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation, cause he’s an unelectable buffoon. He proved that the week prior to Michigan, where he was being gifted a lead. Anyhow, there was a reason he lost his state by a 100 points. You’re seeing it.

rubberneck on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I big thank you goes out to Newt Gingrich. By staying in the race he guarantees a Romney nomination. Thanks, Newt, for being an egomaniacal con artist and narcissist. Romney couldn’t have done it without you.

NickDeringer on March 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Aww, your candidate is so weak he can’t beat someone like Gingirch outright, so you grouse about there having to be [Horrors!] competition? Newt is in this for the long haul. If Santorum and Romney can’t knock him out that speaks to their weakness and his longevity.

Vote Newt!

alwaysfiredup on March 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Santorum doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation, cause he’s an unelectable buffoon. He proved that the week prior to Michigan, where he was being gifted a lead. Anyhow, there was a reason he lost his state by a 100 points. You’re seeing it.

rubberneck on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

There is a reason that, as desperate as they were, the ABR’s chose the likes of MB, Cain and Newt before they ever “discovered” how “deserving” he was of their support.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM

You know what? I just don’t care anymore.

JPeterman on March 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Why care about politics at all when you’ve got the Yam-Yam?!

The Nerve on March 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Frankly, I’ll be glad to see it. Time for the moderates to put up or shut up. Show us how to win, mods.

ddrintn on March 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM

They already did. In 2008. We’re in for a repeat.

riddick on March 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

You know what? I just don’t care anymore.

JPeterman on March 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Not even my party anymore.

trigon on March 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Not even my party anymore.

trigon on March 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

But you can still cry, if you want to.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Can’t wait to see if Sherriff Rick can keep his whines to a minimum tonite w/ Huckabee, AND if they really will chastise anyone of them if they criticize another candidate. I wouldn’t put it past Santorum to have his rants prepared just so he can show what a “tough guy” he is; Criticism be damned!

At the very least I’m sure we’ll get an earful about all the unfair laws about registering in these states that another candidate “Probably bought off anyway”! Wah!

BettyRuth on March 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I’m a little denser than usual.
All these anti-Santy ads showing days after the Michigan primary, on our local stations ……..DUH!!…I’m by the Ohio border, and their listening and viewing audience. (I feel as dumb as a liberal!)

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM

There’s more: Santorum only met the requirements to appear on ballot in 4 of the 18 Illinois districts as well.

Romney, Paul and Newt decided to not challenge the lack of signatures, so he’ll be on the ballot. Classy of them, I suppose; I do find it contrary to the interests of the party though. At this level, we can’t allow candidates who can’t organize a campaign properly have a pass. A presidential campaign isn’t the adequate setup for on-the-job training.

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Very true. Here in my district (Illinois 2) Santorum needed 600 signatures for his delegate slate and only turned in 164. They are also one Alternate Delegate short. The Romney folks decided to drop their challenge even though they would have won it hands down.

There is nobody on earth who can argue that the Santorum folks are ready for an all out national campaign against an incumbent president. Fact is that the Santorum campaign was always meant to be a protest campaign to keep social issues in the debate. He just happened to be the last “not Romney” standing. Right now you can see Republican voters are getting the hint that a long, bloody, divisive, and expensive primary only helps Obama. I don’t know what is going to happen in the Washington caucus today but I have a feeling that Super Tuesday is going to be a long night for the Santorum and Gingrich campaigns. If it is, I hope those two will learn from Romney’s speech to CPAC in 2008. While Romney could have stayed in and been a protest candidate he graciously suspended his campaign to end a bloody primary because he saw he had no viable path to the nomination. Hopefully other candidates will show the same class this year.

kurtd on March 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

He’s a 3rd rate candidate being propped up by Romney haters and a superpac.

rubberneck on March 3, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Romney is a loser being propped up by the establishment, media, and multiple superpacs.

KMav on March 3, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Not even my party anymore.

trigon on March 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

But you can still cry, if you want to.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Thats funny.

kurtd on March 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Why care about politics at all when you’ve got the Yam-Yam?!

The Nerve on March 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

This primary has been flagged for being in a bathroom.

JPeterman on March 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Aww, your candidate is so weak he can’t beat someone like Gingirch outright, so you grouse about there having to be [Horrors!] competition? Newt is in this for the long haul. If Santorum and Romney can’t knock him out that speaks to their weakness and his longevity.

Vote Newt!

alwaysfiredup on March 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Hate to break the news but Romney has already effectively knocked Newt out. The fact that Newt can’t compete in a primary north of the Mason-Dixon line and west of the Mississippi River shows just how weak of a national candidate Gingrich is. MOON COLONY TO NEWT: There are nine other states having primaries on Super Tuesday. You may want to try leaving Georgia and visiting some. OVER AND OUT.

kurtd on March 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Romney brings so many attributes to the table for the general election that skeptics at HA will be astounded by June.

Money, can match Obama dollar for dollar
organization
infrastructure
ground game ready
issues positioning, yes, including health care regardless of how the Supremes rule
Disproportionately strong support from seniors
Proven crossover appeal w moderates, indies, discerning Dems
Eliminates gender gap typical of most GOP nominees
Safe, plausible presidential alternative to Obama
play electoral chess on Blue field, draining Dem resources in MI, CT, NJ, PA, WI, OH, ME, MA, IA, even NY
Like Reagan, will run AGAINST DC
Zero skeletons or baggage – entire election referendum on Obama record
#1 asset – Ann Romney

Just getting list started!

matthew8787 on March 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Not even my party anymore.
trigon on March 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM

But you can still cry, if you want to.
MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

.
Too late; way ahead of you. : (

listens2glenn on March 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

This is one area where experience really counts, and I’m not talking about experience in leadership, legislation or governing. The very act of running a political campaign requires an entirely separate set of skills and talent. Romney has been through this process once from beginning to end and his well funded team knew all the rules. The same can be said for Ron Paul. Santorum and Gingrich lacked that experience and depth of talent on the bench and seem to be paying the price for that lack of preparation over and over again.

I hear what Jazz and others here at HA (Ed, Allah, Tina) are always writing about BUT…BUT…this was NOT an ISSUE for Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Huckabee, Romney, Paul, etc last time and for MANY of them it was their FIRST time running for POTUS. Let’s just call it what it is…POORLY MANAGED CAMPAIGNS and yet we are supposed to elect these SAME “leaders” for the HIGHEST office in the land?

As we say in the military…ROGER THAT!

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I’ve been for Santorum but he’s dropping like a rock. But Newt has 3 out of 4 uptick days, and shockingly amazingly if the trends continue Newt will be ahead of Santorum nationally within 3 days: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

If fish or cut bait for Not Romney fans. We need a horse to ride, quick, or we’re stuck with MA Mitt. Consider Newt.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Rewt for Newt! The smartest, most presidential candidate with the tough solutions we need to get our country on the right track again. He’ll annihilate Obama and the media.

Rick is an amateur socon with big govt tendencies.
Mitt is an establishment puppet; he’ll be nice to Obama.
Ron is great fiscally, but in la la land on foreign policy.

IndeCon on March 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

If it is, I hope those two will learn from Romney’s speech to CPAC in 2008. While Romney could have stayed in and been a protest candidate he graciously suspended his campaign to end a bloody primary because he saw he had no viable path to the nomination. Hopefully other candidates will show the same class this year.

kurtd on March 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

great point…but do you really think this will happen? Both are in bitterness mode right now…especially Gingrich. Santorum does have some legitimate rights to say to Gingrich hey, why do you not drop out and back me. However, RS has hurt himself by allowing the MSM paint the perception that he is a social radical thus scaring away moderates in the R party and Ind’s in the middle.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:13 PM

State Sen. Stacey Campfield, co-chairman of Newt Gingrich’s campaign in Tennessee, announced today he is quitting that position to support Rick Santorum in the Republican presidential race.

JPeterman on March 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

JP…That’s Big News! We’ll see how that affects BOTH campaigns.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

State Sen. Stacey Campfield, co-chairman of Newt Gingrich’s campaign in Tennessee, announced today he is quitting that position to support Rick Santorum in the Republican presidential race.

Doesn’t this guy realize that Santorum isn’t qualified in many TN C. Districts?
Doesn’t this guy realize that Santorum is tending down and Newt trending up (will pass Santorum soon in national polls)
Doesn’t this guy realize that he is catching a falling knife?
What a loser! WOW

jules on March 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Anyone care to explain how RS can win the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on March 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

No need, he can’t. This will become obvious even to his most pious followers in the coming days. Unfortunately it may be too late to stop an eventual catastrophic Willard nomination.

Annar on March 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

“Ground game” means organization — qualifying to get on ballots & to submit delegates properly isn’t exactly rocket science, especially considering Santorum & Newt have law degrees & they served in Congress for many years (Senate & House, respectively), so they know how elections work. This doesn’t boil down to lack of funding, or lack of experience because they didn’t run in 2008 (yes, Romney ran in 2008, but he qualified in all the races that time too), this is plain old incompetence, no matter how anyone wants to spin it.

Dark Star on March 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Way to go Rick. You’re doing a great job suppressing the extra chromosome crowd’s vote all by yourself haha

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

There is a reason that, as desperate as they were, the ABR’s chose the likes of MB, Cain and Newt before they ever “discovered” how “deserving” he was of their support.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Apparently, the UAW, and Michael Moore feel the same way about Santorum

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Romney is a loser being propped up by the establishment, media, and multiple superpacs.

KMav on March 3, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Yes, that would be the very same Mitt Romney who the establishment worked hard to block from getting the nomination so that John McCain could in 2008…

The real problem in this race is that all of our genuinely good, strong conservative leaders are still too “green” to run for President. So, our slate of candidates this year is not so great. But of the candidates actually *in* the race, Romney is heads and tails above the competition. True, that fact speaks more about how weak the competitors are than how strong Romney is (or is not), but it is what it is.

Romney is not ideal, but I think it’s pretty clear he’s the only candidate who can credibly give Obama a run for his money this year. Gingrich and Santorum have both demonstrated they are not ready for the “big time,” whether it’s because they can’t qualify to get on the ballot or because as soon as the spotlight is turned on them, they talk about lunar colonies or try to relitigate the contraception war of 1963.

Outlander on March 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM

In the 2008 race, Romney finished third in each of the upcoming Southern primary states except for Mississippi, which voted after Romney quit the race. He still faces trouble connecting with Southern conservatives, who see him as too moderate, and with evangelicals, who might be troubled by Romney’s Mormon faith.

“I’m a Christian and he’s a Mormon,” said Tamara McGhee, 45, a teacher from Douglasville, Ga., who remains undecided between Gingrich and Santorum. “That may create some bias with me because we have very different religions.”

After Super Tuesday, the Southern campaign moves to Alabama and Mississippi, which hold primaries a week later.

“Super Tuesday, I’m sure, will set the tone for Mississippi and Alabama particularly,” said Henry Barbour, a Republican National Committee member and Romney supporter from Mississippi.

His uncle, former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, has said he won’t endorse until the party picks a nominee.

Most of the Republican statewide elected officials in Mississippi, including U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran, are backing Romney.
Gov. Phil Bryant hasn’t made an endorsement since his initial pick, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, ended his run, although he said he is leaning toward Romney.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPER_TUESDAY_THE_SOUTH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-03-03-09-07-14

That’s sad that SOME in the South have not moved past looking at a person’s religion rather than voting on the “fruits” of that person as the Savior taught if they are truly following religious principles.

If Southerners are concerned about their jobs or getting back to work they’ll want to vote for Romney as he is the only one with both public and private EXECUTIVE experience.

I believe people are NOW starting to see that RS was never up to the challenge to run a NATIONAL campaign AND Gingrich has himself and FORMER workers have admitted that he is NOT an organized person hence the scattered BIG IDEAS he comes up with all the time. A typical trait of people who jump from project to project or idea to idea w/o any organization behind it.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Rewt for Newt!

IndeCon on March 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mitt’s known fatal flaw is he won’t give it to the base. Kind of a lily NEasterner who vowed he won’t say anything incendiary about Obama, or say anything incendiary … “to excite the base.” A double-downed loser. Baseless, and soft on O. 3rd party territory.

Newt is a tough southerner. Sure he may have had some liberal tendencies, but that doesn’t matter now.

We need a level-headed tough guy who’s going to breath spirit into a dispirited base.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Mitt’s known fatal flaw is he won’t give it to the base. Kind of a lily NEasterner who vowed he won’t say anything incendiary about Obama, or say anything incendiary … “to excite the base.” A double-downed loser. Baseless, and soft on O. 3rd party territory.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Anotherjoe…
I think you are BUYING into the Rush spin that HE SAYS Romney means such and such, however, Romney NEVER states it in the way Rush frames it. An example is the whole “slut” comment. Though Romney MAY agree with the premise of Rush’s point (** and I do not know if he does), Romney stated he would NOT have used those words. Thus what Romney means by “I am not going to run around and light my hair on fire” because HA posters want me to. Romney is a smart campaigner.

Romney slaps Obama around ALL the time and uses a lot of Obama’s own type of “educated rhetoric” which I believe annoys Obama. You see, I believe that if one of the other candidates were able to secure the nomination Obama would be able to use “his superior intellect” and his “ultimate Supremeness” against RS or Gingrich, however, against Romney, here is a guy that received a double major at Harvard in both Law and Business and was in the top 5% in both! So Obama knows he cannot try to out “intellect” Romney. Don’t worry Romney will PUNK Obama in debates and on the campaign trail.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

That’s right. We need a guy to ally themselves with the unions, and start making robocalls to Liberals begging for votes. Conservative credential be damned, we all need to take one for the team. We, as Americans don’t have any real right to privacy in our own homes, that’s why we need a true culture warrior who can save us from our hedonistic life styles, and the evil’s of birth control. That’s why I’m voting for Rick Santorum.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Mitt’s known fatal flaw is he won’t give it to the base. Kind of a lily NEasterner who vowed he won’t say anything incendiary about Obama, or say anything incendiary … “to excite the base.” A double-downed loser. Baseless, and soft on O. 3rd party territory.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I think Mitt is playing it smart. He’s using the primaries to build and shape his media narrative to run against Obama in the general. Also, he can’t really run to the right in a primary and “pivot” to the middle, as is customary, because of his reputation as a serial flip-flopper.

Put those two facts together and it yields a clear dominant strategy–run a centrist campaign from the start.

Outlander on March 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I think Michigan was Santorum’s Gettysburg. It’s going to be Romney, more than likely.

Personally I voted for Gingrich after Perry dropped out. I always said that Perry was the only guy who could beat Romney. But people gambled on Santorum and then Gingrich. Now we have Romney. Conservatives split their vote too many ways and screwed themselves.

Ya’ hear, conservatives? We brought this on ourselves.

Note to the “moderates” and social libs here: Maybe you could cool it with the cheap shots at Santorum being “pious”, and “extreme”. He is no more conservative than Reagan was on social issues. He is no more conservative than any observant Catholic.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

BTW, Romney will do fine against Obama. he just needs a solid conservative as his second to unite the party and fire up the base. A Southerner like DeMint would help. But this idea that Romney cant’ win is just silly.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Yes, that would be the very same Mitt Romney who the establishment worked hard to block from getting the nomination so that John McCain could in 2008…

Outlander on March 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM

I believe this is totally untrue. Can you give us any examples where the establishment tried to stop Mitt or prop up McCain in 2008? ANY?

KMav on March 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Wasn’t it polled that like 98% of practicing Catholics use birth control? Rick is way outside the mainstream. Wasn’t it also documented that Reagan never went to church while he was a sitting President as well? You don’t become the governor of California, then the President acting like a Rick Santorum.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Rewt for Newt!

IndeCon on March 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mitt’s known fatal flaw is he won’t give it to the base. Kind of a lily NEasterner who vowed he won’t say anything incendiary about Obama, or say anything incendiary … “to excite the base.” A double-downed loser. Baseless, and soft on O. 3rd party territory.

Newt is a tough southerner. Sure he may have had some liberal tendencies, but that doesn’t matter now.

We need a level-headed tough guy who’s going to breath spirit into a dispirited base.

anotherJoe on March 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I totally agree. Telling the conservative base to sit down, shut up and vote for Mitt has not gone over well. There will be a third conservative party forming for sure.

Newt is tough, and he can tackle the tough job of bringing our country back from the brink.

IndeCon on March 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM

so tired of hearing if romney is the nominee that it guarantees obama’s reelection. based on what, obamao’s stellar presidency? “generic” repub beats obama by 8. romney is as close to generic repub as you can get. obama won many states in 08 that he has no chance of winning this time. many of the traditional red states that voted oblamo went solidly red in the last 2 yrs.

phillysfinest on March 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Romney brings so many attributes to the table for the general election that skeptics at HA will be astounded by June.

Money, can match Obama dollar for dollar
organization
infrastructure
ground game ready
issues positioning, yes, including health care regardless of how the Supremes rule
Disproportionately strong support from seniors
Proven crossover appeal w moderates, indies, discerning Dems
Eliminates gender gap typical of most GOP nominees
Safe, plausible presidential alternative to Obama
play electoral chess on Blue field, draining Dem resources in MI, CT, NJ, PA, WI, OH, ME, MA, IA, even NY
Like Reagan, will run AGAINST DC
Zero skeletons or baggage – entire election referendum on Obama record
#1 asset – Ann Romney

Just getting list started!

matthew8787 on March 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Good, reasonable list. I don’t get the “Romney will lose” arguments here. Romney is Obama’s worst, worst nightmare. A good-looking family man with zero baggage and a successful business background. He just reeks of competence, while Obama just reeks of incompetence. Lots and lots of Obama voters are just itching to vote for someone else, to cleanse themselves of that one, stupid, bone-headed day when they went into the voting booth and handed this guy the reins. Romney is their chance. And they’ll take it. This country is going to have a President Romney in January 2013. Let’s get him there, stop the national bleeding, and if he turns out to be a liberal “compassionate conservative” (and I do NOT believe he will) like so many here think he will, then primary him in 2016. In the mean time, Barack Obama will be on the ash heap of history where he belongs.

Rational Thought on March 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I believe this is totally untrue. Can you give us any examples where the establishment tried to stop Mitt or prop up McCain in 2008? ANY?

KMav on March 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I don’t buy into the theory of an omnipresent “establishment” controlling our primary from behind closed doors. It’s a convenient excuse for Santorum. The fact is he’s just a weak candidate with no money, no organization and no real voter base. He was fortunate to pick up the Gingrich voters after he imploded and now he’s sinking, fast.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 4:04 PM

ttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/exclusive-in-02-romney-touted-d-c-connections-federal-funds/

big thank you goes out to Newt Gingrich. By staying in the race he guarantees a Romney nomination. Thanks, Newt, for being an egomaniacal con artist and narcissist. Romney couldn’t have done it without you.

NickDeringer on March 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Santorum is such a weak candidate his supporters want to clear the feild for him to win, sorry I will never vote for a person that the dems are promoting b/c they know he has no chance against Obama.
Newt is the strongest candidate , he will stay in the race and Santo. should drop out.

evergreenland on March 3, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I think you are BUYING into the Rush spin that HE SAYS Romney means such and such, however, Romney NEVER states it in the way Rush frames it.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Contrary to the popular belief among many Romney supporters on HA, not everyone who does not support Romney listens to Rush, Levin, Hannity or FOX News.

I for instance, have never listened to more than the 10 or 15 minute audios of Rush and Levin that are posted here at HA. I’ve never listened to Hannity’s radio show, at all, and I stopped watching FOX News over a year ago.

Many of us are quite capable of reading or hearing what Romney says and are able to come to our own conclusions.

And since I haven’t had a chance to ask you yet, how about that 500? I was so disappointed when our guy had to drop out with a blown engine. But Montoya certainly made the race a Juan of a kind experience. ;-)

Flora Duh on March 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Wasn’t it polled that like 98% of practicing Catholics use birth control? Rick is way outside the mainstream. Wasn’t it also documented that Reagan never went to church while he was a sitting President as well? You don’t become the governor of California, then the President acting like a Rick Santorum.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

What poll? I don’t but that for a second. And if they don’t, then they are not being an observant Catholic. Remember that Santorum never advocated outlawing contraception, just that he is personally opposed to it on religious grounds. i don’t know how often Reagan went to church, but he was adamantly pro-life, and castigated as an extremist for it.

What I find ironic is just as conservative on paper as Santorum. The difference is that no one takes that seriously because they know he’s full of crap.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Romney is just as conservative as Santorum on paper, that is…

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 4:15 PM

PPP tweet:

“Surprise of the day–Tennessee looking much more competitive. Santorum still up but Mitt and Newt within about 5-7 pts.”

No wonder Santorum is campaigning so hard against Newt! He is going down in TN!!!!

It’s Newt time whether Santorum is ready for it or not…When you lose, you are history (just ask Newt after Florida)

jules on March 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM

On Tuesday, March 6, 391 bound delegates are at stake – 24 in Alaska, 76 in Georgia, 32 in Idaho, 38 in Massachusetts, 63 in Ohio, 40 in Oklahoma, 55 in Tennessee, 17 in Vermont, and 46 in Virginia.

Before any ballots are cast on Super Tuesday, Rick Santorum is already down 64 delegates. Rick Santorum’s campaign did not have the organization to get the necessary signatures to get on the ballot in Virginia – thus giving up 46 bound delegates. His campaign also failed to assemble a full statewide slate of delegates in Ohio – giving up as many as 18. As further evidence of his weak operation, Rick Santorum’s campaign also failed to submit a full delegate slate in Tennessee. In total, Rick Santorum is ineligible for 16% of all bound delegates awarded on Super Tuesday.

In post-Super Tuesday contests, Rick Santorum will not be on the ballot in the District of Columbia, forgoing an additional 16 bound delegates. He also failed to file complete petitions in Illinois, losing delegates in four congressional districts there.

Any one of these issues alone would be a cause for concern, but taken in total they show a campaign that is simply not prepared to take on a Democrat machine that will raise and spend $1 billion dollars. This is the same Obama operation that already has an enormous campaign operation and field staff in place in every target state. http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2012/03/rick-santorums-delegate-debacle

Very true…

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM

What poll? I don’t but that for a second. And if they don’t, then they are not being an observant Catholic. Remember that Santorum never advocated outlawing contraception, just that he is personally opposed to it on religious grounds. i don’t know how often Reagan went to church, but he was adamantly pro-life, and castigated as an extremist for it.

What I find ironic is just as conservative on paper as Santorum. The difference is that no one takes that seriously because they know he’s full of crap.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 4:13 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-claim-that-98-percent-of-catholic-women-use-contraception-a-media-foul/2012/02/16/gIQAkPeqIR_blog.html

It’s actually not that high, but it’s still a majority. That’s why Rick is not anywhere near the mainstream, even among his own religion. Most Republicans today are adamantly pro life. I’m an atheist, but I don’t need a book to tell me that aborting unborn babies is wrong. Reagan also didn’t care about your bedroom activities, and respected privacy rights.

This is what I don’t understand about this whole contraception argument. Contraception, by definition lowers the amount of abortions every year by preventing unwanted or accidental pregnancies. To oppose it, seems like the antithesis of conservatism.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 4:34 PM

C

ontrary to the popular belief among many Romney supporters on HA, not everyone who does not support Romney listens to Rush, Levin, Hannity or FOX News.

I for instance, have never listened to more than the 10 or 15 minute audios of Rush and Levin that are posted here at HA. I’ve never listened to Hannity’s radio show, at all, and I stopped watching FOX News over a year ago.

Many of us are quite capable of reading or hearing what Romney says and are able to come to our own conclusions.

And since I haven’t had a chance to ask you yet, how about that 500? I was so disappointed when our guy had to drop out with a blown engine. But Montoya certainly made the race a Juan of a kind experience. ;-)

Flora Duh on March 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Flora Duh…I like to listen to ALL of them when I am home. They each have their own style.

As far as the 500, I didn’t watch it because of the time zone difference here in AFG…yeah, I read the next day Gordon’s engine blew! Agghhhhhhhhh! Hopefully, we’ll have a good year though!

I hope all is well and I am headed to bed now…

I’ll say my prayers for those tornado victims and hopefully the future ones fail to gain any strength of any destructive force.

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM

In Illinios you needed 600 signaturse per district. Santorum did this in three districts. Even after Iowa all the other camapigns including romney agreed to give santorum a pass and allow him on the ballot for fairness even though the other campaigns spent the resources to get on the ballot. In return for allowing Santorum the chance to get 44 delegates in illinios Santorum has accused Romney of rigging CPAC.

District 1: 348
District 2: 179
District 3: 120
District 4: 143
District 5: 724
District 6: 331
District 7: 516
District 8: 649
District 9: 209
District 10: 193
District 11: 130
District 12: 208
District 13: 94
District 14: 179
District 15: 261
District 16: 252
District 17: 182

Santorum still didn’t turn in the names of 10 delegates in illinios.

In Ohio it took so long to find out the additional delegate problems outside the 3 districts because instead of being sent to the ohio republican party and the ohio sec of state office Santorum’s campaign just sent it to the ohio sec of state’s office.

All Santorum had to do is submit three names per district in ohio for delegates. Two of the districts I believe border pennsylvania and you would have thought he would have known one-three people in those districts to serve as delegates.

Never seen such lack of organization. Santorum has bragged about saying he isn’t a manager. That is very clear.

ryandan on March 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM

OHIO REP. MIKE TURNER: “I think what this shows is just a half-hearted attempt to represent Ohio. He clearly approached getting on the ballot in Ohio haphazardly and many say that this shows that he’s not up to the challenge of the big campaign in November. I would go further and say that running for president is sort of like a competency exam for being president and voters don’t want to pick someone who runs for president or to be their president who’s not even capable of getting on the ballot everywhere. This basic competency test I think goes right to the issue of whether or not he’s put forth the full effort in Ohio to both have a full slate of delegates but to represent our country as he’s failed the basic test here in running his campaign.”

OHIO HAMILTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER GREG HARTMANN: “Yes, thank you. It was mindboggling to me that I heard Senator Santorum did not make the ballot in a number of areas in the state of Ohio. It’s been pretty well documented as Ohio goes, so goes the nation. And for anybody to run for president and not have the organizational ability to do the simplest task of qualifying for the ballot shows really signs of a pattern that’s been established by this campaign and really is really scary that a national candidate is engaged in this kind of campaign. We all know that in the fall, whoever the Republican nominee is will be going against one of the best, most well-oiled political machines we’ve ever seen in politics and I think that this kind of ball drop in this stage of the campaign really is a sign that he’s really not ready for primetime.”
http://mittromney.com/news/press/2012/03/rep-mike-turner-rick-santorums-half-hearted-attempt-represent-ohio

OUCH!

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Doesn’t this guy realize that Santorum isn’t qualified in many TN C. Districts?
Doesn’t this guy realize that Santorum is tending down and Newt trending up (will pass Santorum soon in national polls)
Doesn’t this guy realize that he is catching a falling knife?
What a loser! WOW

jules on March 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

also he’s not on the ballots in Washington DC…

jimver on March 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM

What poll? I don’t but that for a second. And if they don’t, then they are not being an observant Catholic. Remember that Santorum never advocated outlawing contraception, just that he is personally opposed to it on religious grounds. i don’t know how often Reagan went to church, but he was adamantly pro-life, and castigated as an extremist for it.

What I find ironic is just as conservative on paper as Santorum. The difference is that no one takes that seriously because they know he’s full of crap.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 4:13 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-claim-that-98-percent-of-catholic-women-use-contraception-a-media-foul/2012/02/16/gIQAkPeqIR_blog.html

It’s actually not that high, but it’s still a majority. That’s why Rick is not anywhere near the mainstream, even among his own religion. Most Republicans today are adamantly pro life. I’m an atheist, but I don’t need a book to tell me that aborting unborn babies is wrong. Reagan also didn’t care about your bedroom activities, and respected privacy rights.

This is what I don’t understand about this whole contraception argument. Contraception, by definition lowers the amount of abortions every year by preventing unwanted or accidental pregnancies. To oppose it, seems like the antithesis of conservatism.

1984 in real life on March 3, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I don’t know the percentage of Catholics that use BC, but you are probably right that it is the majority. Either way, that makes THEM out of step with the teachings of their faith, not Santorum. On that issue, at least, they are not being observant Catholics. As long as Santorum isn’t trying to outlaw the use of contraception, I don’t see why it matters. Does it matter that as an observant Mormon that Mitt baptizes dead people of other faiths? Not to me. In essence, you are saying that observant Catholics should be disqualified from office.

Santorum doesn’t really care about your bedroom activities either. That’s the media playing you. He isn’t trying to make it illegal to use contraception. Contraception isn’t an issue for protestants and Reagan was a protestant. They do this to any Republican who is pro-life too.

Personally, I am not catholic and have no issue with non abortafacient BC. But to someone who has religious convictions that say otherwise, that’s important to them. My problem is that the national government is doing ANYTHING regarding health care, let alone mandating coverage.

Malachi45 on March 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM

ryandan on March 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Are your numbers correct? You said Santorum only has the required 600 signatures in 3 districts. I only see > 600 in District 5 and 8.

galtani on March 3, 2012 at 5:00 PM

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