PPP, Survey USA point to Romney win in today’s WA caucuses

posted at 10:30 am on March 3, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Another Saturday, another non-binding caucus to provide some bragging rights over momentum ahead of a primary — in this case, a whole lot of primaries.  The state of Washington holds its GOP caucus today to not allocate delegates to the Republican presidential candidates, but the state has still attracted attention from the campaigns.  A couple of weeks ago Rick Santorum seemed headed for another caucus victory, but two polls in the last two days show Mitt Romney pulling ahead.

First, PPP reports a shift in momentum but only a small difference between Santorum and Romney:

Momentum has swung strongly in Mitt Romney’s direction among Washington Republicans over the last two weeks. He now leads in the state with 37% to 32% for Rick Santorum, 16% for Ron Paul, and 13% for Newt Gingrich. That represents a reversal from PPP’s previous poll which found Santorum in the driver’s seat with 38% to Romney’s 27%. The large shift in Washington reflects what has happened in the race nationally over that period of time.

Two weeks ago Santorum’s net favorability was 46 points better than Romney’s in Washington.  Now it’s only 11 points better. Santorum’s popularity has declined, going from +51 (69/18) to just +29 (60/31). Meanwhile Romney is on the up swing, going from only +5 (47/42) to +18 (55/37). …

In the places he’s been successful Santorum has dominated the race with three core groups: Evangelicals, Tea Partiers, and those describing themselves as ‘very conservative.’ He’s winning all those groups in Washington, but not by nearly the margin he needs to. He’s only up 41-30 with Evangelicals, 41-34 with Tea Party identifiers, and 38-35 with those self labeling as ‘very conservative.’

Among voters who say they will ‘definitely’ caucus on Saturday Romney’s advantage is only 35-32. His overall advantage is larger because he’s up 40-30 with those who will ‘probably’ caucus, but those folks may or may not end up showing.

PPP also considers the Mormon vote a key in Washington, as it will comprise 14% of the likely turnout today.  Still, even with that advantage (almost two-thirds of those support Romney), Romney’s lead is at the margin of error. Turnout will matter most, if PPP’s analysis proves correct, although Romney’s organization should give him an edge in that department, too.

Survey USA polled Republicans only, as compared to PPP’s mix of 79% Republicans, 17% indies, and 4% Democrats, which is more appropriate for the open caucus taking place today (Washington does not have party affiliations on their voter registration).  In PPP’s poll, Romney has a seven-point advantage among Republicans, but in Survey USA’s poll, it goes to double digits:

Washington State Republicans by 5:1 say economic issues are more important to them than social issues, say Mitt Romney is the best Republican to tackle the nation’s economy, and as a result, see Mitt Romney overwhelmingly as the Republican best able to defeat Barack Obama in November, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for KING-TV in Seattle on the eve of the state caucuses.

This was a strangely-constructed poll, though.  It doesn’t sample likely caucus goers, and it also includes Barack Obama on its list of candidates as a general-election question.  (He gets 6% of the vote.)  Romney wins handily on the question of being the best to take on Obama (50/18 over Santorum) and best on the economy (41/20 over Gingrich).  Santorum, on the other hand, has a double-digit lead in being able to identify with “ordinary people” (36/23 over Romney).  Romney narrowly wins on trustworthiness, 32/26 over Santorum, a result that actually increases to 33/17 among Tea Party members.

This looks like Romney is poised for a win today that will give him a psychological boost going into Super Tuesday, but nothing more significant — except perhaps the opportunity to deny Santorum a psychological boost.


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KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Yeah! America is on pins and needles waiting to find out who will be declared the President of Dixie!

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM

It’s Washington for heavans sake! Wait till the south!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM

I thought Santorum was supposed to win this easily. If Romney pulls off the upset, then he’s poised to do very well on Tuesday. Which means this primary will be effectively over very soon.

Doughboy on March 3, 2012 at 10:34 AM

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Wow! How did you do that?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Romney has won. Let’s all just deal with it. Ohio will be the final nail in.the coffin.

MaxMBJ on March 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Wow! How did you do that?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM

If I told you, then everyone would be doing it :-)

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:37 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM

That’s odd – your reply is time-stamped a minute before the comment you were responding to, lol.

whatcat on March 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Bluegill and joana will be here five minutes ago!…There’s a picture of Romney and Santy!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

This looks like Romney is poised for a win today that will give him a psychological boost going into Super Tuesday, but nothing more significant — except perhaps the opportunity to deny Santorum a psychological boost

money quote…

nuff said

y’all have a fabulous day!!!

cmsinaz on March 3, 2012 at 10:41 AM

There’s been a number of clairvoyant people here the last couple of days!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Why do states even have non-binding caucuses? What’s the point?

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

The state of Washington holds its GOP caucus today to not allocate delegates to the Republican presidential candidates

Um, why in heck are states having cauci to not allocate delegates?

We need to focus on MJBrutus’ time traveling. Psst, what are the numbers for next week’s lottery, I’ll split the winnings 50-50.

rbj on March 3, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Sanitarium and Gingrich to some extent have both been successful at draining resources from Romney’s coffers that would have been better spent against….That guy who is our president.

I will say that there is nothing wrong with a good fight because it means your party aren’t a bunch of trolls for the king like the dems. That being said they need to understand when it is time to move on.

tomas on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

PPP polls had Willard ahead of Santorum by 40 to 26 in Colorado two days before the primary, but Willard lost.

Emperor Norton on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

That’s odd – your reply is time-stamped a minute before the comment you were responding to, lol.

whatcat on March 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Yeh it has been doing that since last night. I think HA has a bug.

CW on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Bluegill and joana will be here five minutes ago!…There’s a picture of Romney and Santy!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

They are still applying Alinsky to the slut thread.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

tomas on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Yep.

But, since neither Sanctorum nor Gingrich is willing to admit defeat….

Go, Newt!! Keep taking votes away from Sanctorum!

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Teats for everyone.

PappyD61 on March 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Is that a mandate?

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

republican voters are TEATERS that want their turn at the Federal sow just like the Entitlement demographic in the Democrat party.

Romney is a Big Gov loving, Romneycare producing, Bush Squish that all signs point to will be just like Obama……but with Magic underwear and bigger hair.

They even have wives that have the same charms and social skills.

OBAMAROMNEYCARE 2012!!!
Teats for everyone.

PappyD61 on March 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

CW on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Skeptic!

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Romney’s own words…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2XkKK1mio4


He admits he’s a Progressive
.

PappyD61 on March 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

It’s the red matter.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

they need to understand when it is time to move on.

tomas on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Romney haters should console themself with this knowledge: Either 1) Romney will be defeated in which case they can say “told you do” about moderates despite two Bushes, Nixon and Eisenhour having been elected as moderates. Or, 2) If Romey becomes President Romney, they’ll have the pleasure of seeing him absolutely ripped to shreds by an outraged left who saw the first African American president kicked out of office by a right-wing zealot (which is how he’ll be portrayed). So either way, they win by losing…again.

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I’m going back to Gingrich…again….

thedevilinside on March 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

PPP polls had Willard ahead of Santorum by 40 to 26 in Colorado two days before the primary, but Willard lost.

Emperor Norton on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

In all seriousness, how does anyone expect accurate polling from a caucus?

HA’s fascination with a suspect polling organization like PPP amazes me.

bw222 on March 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM

HA’s fascination with a suspect polling organization like PPP amazes me.

bw222 on March 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Tell me more lies, baby. You’re the best. Nobody is as good as you. ;-)

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Very true. Even though Romney is viewed as a moderate or even a liberal by many of us, he will be portrayed as an extremist by the media and the “race card” will be played daily.

No lie is too big for people like George Stephenopolous, who is really no different than Joseph Goebbels.

bw222 on March 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM

So either way, they win by losing…again.

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Sounds like Santo, who’s strategy worked to perfection when he won MI by losing it.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

I found out last night that of the five people in my household in the Michigan primary, two kids went for Romney, one for Ron Paul…(ages 22,20 and 18)…wife for Santy and a Newt. Romney won in my household. That’s what I get for encouraging them to vote!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Sounds like Santo, who’s strategy worked to perfection when he won MI by losing it.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM

And had amazing surprise victories where he won no delegates. Yet now, when those non-delegate wins are above the Mason-Dixon line… nothing to see here, move along. It means nothing. It’s just hype.

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:59 AM

PPP polls had Willard ahead of Santorum by 40 to 26 in Colorado two days before the primary, but Willard lost.
Emperor Norton on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

And there was the PPP one-day 10 point shift to Santy in Mich just before it’s primary. I think Romney will do well, but PPP isn’t a polling co. that’d you’d wanna bet the farm on. ARG is another poller not too get too excited about.

whatcat on March 3, 2012 at 11:02 AM

They are still applying Alinsky to the slut thread.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I saw them on the movie review thread!
I peed my pants AND spewed coffee on my screen I was so surprised!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Turns out that what Republicans — and most independents — want most of all is to beat Obama. Good news for Romney. Bad news for Obama.

Rational Thought on March 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Tell me more lies, baby. You’re the best. Nobody is as good as you. ;-)
rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM

You’re telling me you don’t believe the Tom Jenson and company at PPP have an agenda? They are not affiliated with the Democratic Party and the official pollster at the Daily Kos for no reason.

bw222 on March 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Amazing how the socialist romneycare can buy a nomination right in front of our eyes. He IS the most liberal GOP candidate in my lifetime, yet the romneycare news network, AKA Fox news and the other establishment outlets ignore romneycare’s signature achievement in government his HC mandate that requires people to buy insurance. Pure socialism!

Honestly, this will go down in the history books as the end of the republican party!

Danielvito on March 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Yeh it has been doing that since last night. I think HA has a bug.

CW on March 3, 2012 at 10:45 AM

The liberals are messing with the North Pole again.

Rovin on March 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM

You’re telling me you don’t believe the Tom Jenson and company at PPP have an agenda?

Not me.

rhombus on March 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I saw them on the movie review thread!
I peed my pants AND spewed coffee on my screen I was so surprised!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM

They could not help themselves.

God help us when we have to pay for liberal porn costs.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Honestly, this will go down in the history books as the end of the republican party!

Danielvito on March 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Speaking of… Will Sandra Fluke be available for the “Won and Done” festival? The Kielbasa Queen is scheduled to do an Anthony Weiner Comeback Tour.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM

In the Western US where people have Mormon neighbors and co-workers and don’t have the phobia that people back East have, Romney will do pretty well.

crosspatch on March 3, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I just don’t understand the mentality of people who say “Romney will be just like Obama”. For Chrissakes, Bill Clinton was nothing like Obama, Carter was nothing like Obama, Hillary Clinton would have been nothing like Obama, Kerry, Dukakis and Mondale would have been nothing like Obama.

Are you people really that clueless to not be able to tell the difference between a typical Liberal with Socialist leanings, who nonetheless, is afraid of alienating a Center/Right electorate, and a hardcore radical who is willing to purposely take the country down and risk getting thrown out of office in the process?

ardenenoch on March 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

ardenenoch on March 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Romneycare AND obamacare are both hardcore radical sociolism. If you don’t see the difference I can’t help you.

Just because romneycare has an R after his name doesn’t change the fact his signature achievement is huge government socialism!

Danielvito on March 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM

ardenenoch on March 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

According to Jodi, they do have something in common ardenenoch.

Rovin on March 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Isn’t that wonderful and nonpartisan James Carville also involved with PPP?

jb34461 on March 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Danielvito on March 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Polly wanna cracker?

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM

13% for Newt. This PROVES he’s electable!!

NickDeringer on March 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I just don’t understand the mentality of people who say “Romney will be just like Obama”.

ardenenoch on March 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

They’re just repeating what their master, George Soros, told them.

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 11:46 AM

I live in Washington state and I’m off to caucus for Ron Paul. Catch you all later.

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Even if he wins – and I will vote for him – I will never stop calling him mittens.

best. nickname. ever.

DHChron on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

We need to revamp our election process. Included on all ballots in the general we need an option to vote for each candidate, but we also need a spot to vote to expel the current president even if it takes a year longer to find a non communist replacement that isn’t a wishy washy flip flopping moron.

If we can go 4 years without a budget we can certainly go a year or so without a president trying to crush this country. NO president would be better than the current moronic socialist, and nothing on the GOP side looks much better.

Wolfmoon on March 3, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I just don’t understand the mentality of people who say “Romney will be just like Obama”.

ardenenoch on March 3, 2012 at 11:24 AM

They’re just repeating what their master, George Soros, told them.

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Nobody needs Soreass to tell them that mittens is a loser. People say (including me) that he’s no better than zero because it’s the perception people have of mittens. He isn’t going to undo what 0bama has done, he’s only going to tweak it. Even worse if the house doesn’t get it’s sh_t together and we don’t get a flip in the senate. Mittens will do nothing, except maybe make a nice fluffy bed for HIS cronies to lay in.

Wolfmoon on March 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Romney and Paul win over the people who overwhelmingly voted Obama into office in 2008? HMMMM.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Hhmmm, on March 1st Ed said Santorum was poised to win Washington. Yet no mention of that in this article. I wonder why (ok I dont really wonder)?

Zaggs on March 3, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Romney and Paul win over the people who overwhelmingly voted Obama into office in 2008? HMMMM.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM

You mean like Santorum robo calling Democrats in Michigan recently to vote for him? I’m starting to think many of the self proclaimed “very conservative” really just mean “very ignorant”.

scotash on March 3, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Just call Gov. Romney the winner of everything and get it over with.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Amatuerish mistakes by Santorum, such as failing to get himself on the ballot in Ohio do not inspire much confidence.

EconomicNeocon on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

People say (including me) that he’s no better than zero because it’s the perception people have of mittens.

Wolfmoon on March 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

And that’s the perception that the Left wants you to have.

Others (myself included) have the opposition perception.

Time will tell which perception prevails.

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

PPP also considers the Mormon vote a key in Washington

Man, those Mormons are like the loaves and fishes. In every poll or primary that Romney leads, those pesky Mormons just multiply. They’re everywhere I tell ya.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Just call Gov. Romney the winner of everything and get it over with.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Now you’re talking!

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Just call Gov. Romney the winner of everything and get it over with.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Just call Gov. RomneyObama the winner of everything and get it over with.

Same outcome.

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Probably.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Romney is gaining momentum. Let’s see if what happens in Ohio and the South affects that. Should be interesting.

Philly on March 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Of course you believe the left’s perception of Santorum. How is that different?

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM

live in Washington state and I’m off to caucus for Ron Paul. Catch you all later.

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I’m happy for you. You’ve been waiting for this day. I say this sincerely. You a a good staunch supporter of your candidate.

bluealice on March 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Amatuerish mistakes by Santorum, such as failing to get himself on the ballot in Ohio do not inspire much confidence.

EconomicNeocon on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Econ, I did not know this. Very interesting. Thanks for the linky.

Philly on March 3, 2012 at 12:56 PM

fight like a girl on March 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM

What do I believe? That Santorum is political poison because he only has appeal to the far right, and that his big government voting record is contrary to his claim to be fiscally conservative.

My understanding is that the left believes he’s a theocrat who wants to impose his religious views on the country.

Syzygy on March 3, 2012 at 1:01 PM

This looks like Romney is poised for a win today that will give him a psychological boost going into Super Tuesday, but nothing more significant — except perhaps the opportunity to deny Santorum a psychological boost

Right, why would an actual caucus with actual delegates be significant? OTOH, when Santorum won three events with a total of ZERO delegates at stake, it started his big surge. You remember Santorum’s big surge, don’t you? It was a couple of weeks before his big plunge (now in progress).

If this cycle has accomplished anything positive, it is exposing so many bloggers as untrustworthy hacks.

As old media fades (newspaper ad revenue is lower than it was five years ago, and that wasn’t a good year), new media must be vetted and tested. Those who are willing to distort the truth will fall by the wayside.

Adjoran on March 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

You’re telling me you don’t believe the Tom Jenson and company at PPP have an agenda? They are not affiliated with the Democratic Party and the official pollster at the Daily Kos for no reason.

bw222 on March 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

They have a clear agenda and, quite frankly, they don’t make much of an effort to deny that’s the case. It shows in some questions they make and in what they decide to poll – we’re still waiting to find how the democrats polled in that (in)famous question about interracial marriage, for example – as well as quite evidently in their analysis.

I don’t see any reason to believe they cook books, fabricate polling results or have practices that deviate from the prevailing industry standards with regards to public polls though (unlike former Kos’ pollster R2K).

joana on March 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Adjoran on March 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I’ve had my own issues with Ed’s analysis, but in this case, he’s right. Here is the process for WA state:

1. At Precinct Caucuses, registered voters elect delegates to County Conventions. That’s today.

2. At County Conventions, delegates elect delegates to the State Convention.

3. At the State Convention, delegates elect delegates to the Republican National Convention.

This is the most convoluted waste of time that can possibly be imagined, tailor made to be manipulated by (1) insiders and (2) fanatics. Normal voters need not apply; reading anything at all into today’s results would be a real stretch.

HTL on March 3, 2012 at 1:28 PM

You mean like Santorum robo calling Democrats in Michigan recently to vote for him? I’m starting to think many of the self proclaimed “very conservative” really just mean “very ignorant”.

scotash on March 3, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Huh? I am stating that Romney and Paul appeal to a wide base of people, not just TruCons. A Romney/Rand Paul ticket would win.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 1:30 PM

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

:

iwasbornwithit on March 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

That was supposed to be :)

iwasbornwithit on March 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

RomneyCare was never hardcore liberal socialism. At worst, it was an attempt to combine government “benevolence” with ideas of personal responsibility and freedom. Obama has torn the mask and is making it clear that his version of government benevolence is not benevolent at all. By coming out for a outright repeal of ObamaCare (which he has done, though belatedly), it seems that Romney has abandoned that particular attempt as unworkable.

If Romney gets the nomination, the hard left will shift tactics and try to paint him as a rightwing extremist nutcase, in which case Republicans may find themseves pointing to RomneyCare as contrasted with ObamaCare as a responsible moderate position.

Confutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I’m going to my first county meeting for RP in MO on Monday. Cant’ wait!

iwasbornwithit on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Just call Gov. Romney the winner of everything and get it over with.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Heck, I did that in August of last yer, back before the time when most of H/A was sniffing around Herman Cain.

MJBrutus on March 3, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Romney will most likely be nominee but I dont think he’ll make it to the white house. For one, being in the white house is his ambition and it shows in a bad way. Even though the economy sucks, the guy is on record saying it is better (this was sometime before Florida). Americans are susceptible to class warfare, and romney isnt really good at handling the attacks. Kerry lost in the end because partly because of his flip floping image. Romney is worse and Axelrod and the media will use it. Obama already has about 230 EVs locked for him, I dont think Romney can sell to independents looking at his numbers now before the media and obama have gone full swing at him.

Flapjackmaka on March 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

This looks like Romney is poised for a win today that will give him a psychological boost going into Super Tuesday, but nothing more significant — except perhaps the opportunity to deny Santorum a psychological boost

Right, why would an actual caucus with actual delegates be significant? OTOH, when Santorum won three events with a total of ZERO delegates at stake, it started his big surge. You remember Santorum’s big surge, don’t you? It was a couple of weeks before his big plunge (now in progress).

If this cycle has accomplished anything positive, it is exposing so many bloggers as untrustworthy hacks.

As old media fades (newspaper ad revenue is lower than it was five years ago, and that wasn’t a good year), new media must be vetted and tested. Those who are willing to distort the truth will fall by the wayside.

Adjoran on March 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Exactly, Adjoran!

When Romney wins Caucuses such as Maine, Wyoming, etc there was HARDLY any mention of it here on HA BUT when Santorum took three Caucus States that Romney admitted he did LITTLE advertising in, HA was ALL over what a HUGE win. And people want to say that Romney has the media on his side?

I hope this ends quickly on Tuesday!

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

g2825m on March 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I’m in agreement as well. This primary season has put a bit of a bad taste in my mouth when I check out the articles on HA.

luckedout26 on March 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I’m back from caucusing in Washington state, (in a red part of the state), and although I felt pretty certain this would be a Santorum area locally, it turns out Ron Paul actually won by a strong margin, then Romney second and Santorum third. Newt only got one vote.

Here’s to hoping the rest of the state feels the same.

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

FloatingRock on March 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Awesome!

iwasbornwithit on March 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM

purely anecdotal, but my precinct – 2 Newt and 2 Paul.

Everyone got to be either a delegate or an alternate to the county convention.

rw on March 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Flapjackmaka on March 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Not corralling independents would come as quite a shock since his whole campaign has been geared towards them.

Cindy Munford on March 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

The important thing to remember is that even with better organization and tons more money, Mitt can not pull away from Rick.

Consider Newt’s 13%. When Newt finally realizes that he is not going to win (maybe after Super Tuesday) and pulls out, where would his supports gravitate to. I know it is not to Ron. And I would bet a large sum of money that most will not go for Mitt. Gee — that leaves Rick and gives him a 10 point or so lead on Mitt.

The game is not over yet! This is the part that gets interesting. Remember the story of the tortoise and the hare.

bartbeast on March 3, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I think I’m done now with this election. I must be in the minority to want a conservative. Good luck with your candidate.

lea on March 3, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Ed Morrissey, there should be a separate post for Mitt Romney’s big win in WA tonight.

Romney came roaring back and won in a knockout!!

GO MITT!!

Mitt Romney is the man who can and will beat Barack Obama.

Voters know that Mitt Romney is the best candidate, by far.

bluegill on March 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Voters don’t want an unelectable bigot like Rick Santorum.

Most of us knew all along that, the more voters learned about Rick Santorum, the more they wouldn’t want to vote for him.

Theocrat bigot Rick Santorum is a loser and yesterday’s news.

Rick Santorum hasn’t been able to win a single primary that wasn’t merely a beauty contest.

IT IS TIME FOR SANTORUM TO DROP OUT!

At least Newt Gingrich has won the South Carolina primary.

Democrats are cheering on Rick Santorum because they know that Santorum would be so easy for Barack Obama to beat.

A Vote for Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Barack Obama’s Reelection.

bluegill on March 3, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Why are caucus states which are non binding not at the end of the line instead of being up front? Is it to give the Rockefeller Republican candidate momentum?

I was called a ‘bigot’ today on my own website because I don’t support Romney and it must be because I don’t like Mormons. I don’t like a liberal Republican who as late as 2009 was advocating the Obama use Romneycare as a model on mandates for Obamacare not to mention all the flipflops. Calling Romney very much of a conservative didn’t help after calling some people on the internet and me a bigot. That’s not the way to win support for your candidate. I have been told to sit down and shutup if I am not supporting Romney. No wonder more of us are seeing Romney as Obama lite — same tactics. Declaring this momentous victory from a caucus where you get no delegates. FL GOP still needs to proportion delegates according to the rules the RNC sellout chair won’t make them do.

So now we have Mormons throwing out the bigot card if you don’t support Romney. I have been called a bigot on my site by the Dems for going after Obama and now Mormons for going after Romney. What a bunch of thin skinned supporters on both sides that cannot stand it when the truth is posted.

PhiKapMom on March 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

PhiKapMom on March 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I hope you realize Santorum was pro choice. That makes Santorum a flip flopper right?

I’m calling bologna on your statement. You haven’t even bothered to vet Santorum so I don’t trust your judgement or your claim.

scotash on March 4, 2012 at 4:07 AM

This is the most convoluted waste of time that can possibly be imagined, tailor made to be manipulated by (1) insiders and (2) fanatics.

This is precisely true. It’s the way union elections worked for a long time, and still do, to some extent. My father fought against Communists in the labor unions in the 1930s and 1940s. Bypassing the will of the workers between local elections and the election of national union leaders was the way the Communists did it, or tried to.

On the other hand…

Caucuses, and to a lesser extent, primaries, will always be enriched in the party base, True Believers, cranks, and others whose views do not resemble those of general election voters. If you let caucuses purely determine your nominee, you will get a nominee at the extreme end of your party, who may be unelectable in the general.

So, I have mixed feelings. :P

Bartrams Garden on March 4, 2012 at 11:32 AM