Santorum: A conservative will beat Obama, but a moderate will lose

posted at 12:45 pm on March 2, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Hmm. Wonder who the “conservative” is and who the “moderate” is in this scenario. In Washington state last night, Rick Santorum recounted the last 30 years of presidential election history, pointing out that, when Republicans run as moderates, they invariably lose, but, when they run as conservatives, they have greater success:

“We want a conservative nominee because that’s our best chance of winning. Look at the races in the last 30 years [in which] we nominated a moderate — [John] McCain, [Bob] Dole, Gerald Ford,” Santorum said Thursday night in Washington state, according to CNN. “When George [H.W.] Bush ran for reelection back in 1992, after raising taxes and increasing spending. They all ran as moderates. We all lost.” …

“Every time we’ve run as a conservative, we’ve won,” Santorum said. “Why? Because Americans want a choice. If it’s a difference between somebody, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, you know what, this country is going to probably … stick with the person they know. We need to have a sharp contrast. Someone who paints a very different vision for America.”

Santorum has staked his candidacy on the idea that he is the true conservative in a race of counterfeits (incidentally, “counterfeit” is also the term Ron Paul has used to brand Santorum). His impeccable credentials on social issues make that claim particularly believable, especially to casual observers, but is he actually more conservative than Romney? It could be that Romney is extremely — you might even say severely — conservative in a less obvious sense, as E.J. Dionne Jr. argues:

There is a terrible bias in the mainstream media that judges “moderation” almost entirely in relation to positions on social issues such as abortion or gay marriage. The media love these issues because they often involve sex, which everyone likes to read about, and do not demand elaborate explanations, charts or tables.

Go right on social issues, and the extremist charge can’t be far behind. But the media rarely peg an extreme economic conservative as “extreme” because doing so requires tedious math-laden paragraphs. Besides, people in pinstriped suits who are driven by money don’t seem “extreme.”

So here’s a counterintuitive argument: These primaries have damaged the Republican candidates’ images in the short run. But in the long run, they may yet help Romney — if he prevails — because by comparison with Santorum and Newt Gingrich, he seems “moderate,” and his supporters are more “moderate” than the voters backing the other guys. And Romney has been on so many sides of so many issues that pundits can arbitrarily imagine their own Romney.

My friend and colleague Matt Miller wrote recently that “everyone knows Romney is basically a pragmatic centrist.” No, “everyone” does not know this. The evidence from his tax plan, in fact, is that he’s an extremist for the privileged.

When it comes to his plans for the economy and entitlement reform, in other words, Romney is not a pragmatic centrist. The solutions he intends to implement when it comes to tax reform, for example, come entirely from the right side of the aisle; he wants to enact an across-the-board, 20 percent rate cut for every American, abolish the alternative minimum tax and the death tax, and reduce the corporate tax rate to 25 percent. All of this doesn’t necessarily make him more conservative than Rick Santorum, but it does make him more conservative than Obama.

All of which is to say: Rick Santorum’s point has relevance not only now while the primary process is ongoing and Republican voters still have the chance to choose the candidate they think actually is most conservative. His point also has relevance for the general election, no matter who becomes the GOP nominee. Mitt Romney has moved significantly to the right in his rhetoric during the primary and his tendency will probably be to move back to the center during the general election. That might be good strategy on an issue or two (immigration, perhaps), but, in general, Romney — if he does become the nominee — should run as the conservative he’s purported to be in the primary, not as the moderate Obama and the MSM are counting on him to be in the general.

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omney cannot beat Obama. And he is not now and never has been a fiscal conservative.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/exclusive-in-02-romney-touted-d-c-connections-federal-funds/

fight like a girl on March 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Romney can argue both sides of the issue so convincingly, this is a special talent, but unfortunately will not get him my vote.

evergreenland on March 2, 2012 at 3:40 PM

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apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM

LOL troll is LOL.

MadisonConservative on March 2, 2012 at 3:49 PM

My ability to make you smile doesn’t get the respect it deserves

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:57 PM

MadisonConservative + NotCoach + Resist We Much = devil worshipping scum

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Ahhahahaha…Well! Ring around the rosy a pocket full of — spears. Thought you’d be pretty foxy, didn’t ya? The garlic! The silver bullet! The stake through the heart!

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! You cursed brat!

Look what you’ve done!! I’m melting, meeeelllllltttttting.

Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world.

Who would have thought that some little twerp like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness with your wholly (sic) H20 and mean, mean, meanie words.

OHHHHHHH!!! NO!!! I’m going…ohhhhhhh..ohhhhhhhhhhhhh….

Resist We Much on March 2, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Do you overreact much?

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM

“They”? I see one poster going off the deep end. Most devote Christians use sugar and want people to find the truth in their own hearts because they understand the Christian doctrine of free will. Don’t lump apocalypse in with all Christians.

NotCoach on March 2, 2012 at 3:52 PM

That’s right. Don’t EVER lump me in with people you identify as Christian. Our churches are filled with people who know about God, but they don’t know God, and, so, when someone comes along to express disgust and say, “JC” or “OMG(od)” or fails to give the name “God” or “Jesus” capitals, and they don’t percieve that as blasphemy or misusing the name of the God who gave them life, there faith is no faith, and so it should be because they’re not saved. They’re false converts that sit among the body of Christ. The goats among the sheep. The foolish virgins among the wise. They, uh, they have tears among the weep. Bad fish among the good and they’ll be sorted out on judgment day. So thank you for not lumping in with those false converts. Peace.

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM

MadisonConservative + NotCoach + Resist We Much = devil worshipping scum

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Do you overreact much?

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM</blockquote

You're just ADORABLE.

MadisonConservative on March 2, 2012 at 4:42 PM

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM

I think I know what church you belong to.

MadisonConservative on March 2, 2012 at 4:44 PM

He may not be a real conservative in your opinion – I happen to think he is and the most conservative of this bunch. Plus your argument of his “passions” is exactly why the republican party keeps getting in trouble, but not why you state. Yes, it is the economy, but there are plenty of other fronts we need to be fighting because the liberals are making plenty of inroads. So far, Romney is pretty much a 1-note candidate with the economy. And that’s fine except the democrats are already trumping him on that much as they did with McCain when the meltdown occured and he tried to be the economic hero back then. We need a well-rounded conservative or we’re going down the same road as 2008. People need someone they can vote for that will start pushing the democrats back on ALL fronts. Otherwise, their agenda just keeps getting stronger and stronger as we see today.

mozalf on March 2, 2012 at 3:23 PM

The way you solve the culture war is to get elected. The way you get elected is by focusing on the economy. Social conservatives don’t get this. They think by chasing after guys like Gary Bauer or Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum they’ll solve the culture problem. In fact all they’ll do is keep losing.

writeblock on March 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Funny how few religious conservatives ever cite the parable of the unjust steward. In it Christ urges the Children of the Light to learn from the Children of Darkness. In other words, they were to learn from the worldly how to be wise as serpents to achieve their goals. It’s not enough to have high principles and impeccable morals. You have to win elections. And in this cycle you do this by talking about the economy, not by lecturing people on morals.

writeblock on March 2, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Tina is confused about what defines a “CONSERVATIVE” apparently.

Santorum isn’t “conservative” except on social issues.

Santorum supports UNIONS/LABOR; he opposed National Right to Work.

Santorum supports the National Endowment of the Arts.

Santorum supported Medicare Part D–an entitlement program.

Santorum supported No Child Left Behind–a big government EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.

Santorum supported Big-Government Subsidies to Failed Energy Projects in PA–his own Solyndra.

Santorum supported Pro-Choice Arlen Specter against Conservative Pat Toomey in PA.


Rick Santorum along with then Republican Arlen Specter, neither of whom ever held a job in the private sector nor built a business and employed people or earned a profit were, also, promoters of providing private businesses with $100 million dollars of taxpayer money for what turns out to be a failed business idea and a failed model.

http://articles.philly.com/2006-07-21/news/25405074_1_waste-coal-diesel-fuel-foreign-oil

http://www.votesmart.org/public-statement/203321/senator-santorum-in-schuylkill-county-to-discuss-nations-first-coal-to-liquid-plant-with-department-of-defense-official-and-local-officials

http://www.ultracleanfuels.com/articles/spector_01132003.html

Rick Santorum has his own “Solyndra.”

http://thelibertyblog.org/2012/01/22/rick-santorums-negatives-part-14-political-venture-capitalist-crony-corporatist-and-george-bernard-shaw/

And, Oh, this is good:

Number 7: Rick Santorum’s votes for Felons

http://thelibertyblog.org/2012/01/19/rick-santorums-negatives-part-7-votes-for-felons/

mountainaires on March 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Scripture will NEVER die you New Age Agnostic Rino fanboy

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I just saw half of you Romney-bashing nutballs over in the birth certificate thread, going on about how you think Obama’s birth certificate was forged.

Now I know what kind of loony nutballs we’re dealing with here.

Anyway, the fact is that Rick Santorum is an unelectable loser.

Anyone who goes vote Rick Santorum in the primary is only voting to help Obama’s reelection chances, since Rick Santorum would be SO EASY for Obama to beat.

bluegill on March 2, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Scripture will NEVER die you New Age Agnostic Rino fanboy

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Fortunately, you will. And the sooner the better.

MelonCollie on March 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Fortunately, you will. And the sooner the better.

MelonCollie on March 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Say anything like that to anybody again, and I will report you.

MadisonConservative on March 2, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Scripture will NEVER die you New Age Agnostic Rino fanboy

apocalypse on March 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Fortunately, you will. And the sooner the better.

MelonCollie on March 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Bravely spoken. However, despite your wishes my death is God’s decision, not yours, and I don’t fear death. I have asked God for forgiveness. I trust in Jesus Christ as my Savior. He blotted out my sins. He gave me everlasting life. You too can live forever if you’ll obey the Gospel. God cannot lie and this is His promise: “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13). That means you get saved from death YOUR greatest fear. You FEAR death don’t you! Now God can release you from the fear of death and the power of death too. He can take you out of a futile lifestyle. You don’t realize it, but you are WAITING to die. You can have a good time. You can travel. Eat good food, but you’re waiting to die. I don’t know when death is gonna come, but God will give you everlasting life and it’s not just a belief, it’s experiential. So what you’ve got to do is think about these things today. Weigh it up and say, “Do I wanna go to HELL and be given JUDGMENT for my sins or will I trust in Jesus?” It’s what God says in His Word. So keep that in mind next time you wish death upon someone. A Christian does not fear death, but YOU are either in heaven or hell when you stand before God, when you stand before the JUDGE. Choose carefully. Thank you.

apocalypse on March 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Fortunately, you will. And the sooner the better.

MelonCollie on March 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Say anything like that to anybody again, and I will report you.

MadisonConservative on March 2, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Much respect to MadisonConservative for not tolerating anything that makes reference to wishing others death (there are eternal consequences of death)

apocalypse on March 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

When was the last time a “True Conservative” won POTUS ? You want to bypass the Bushes and go to Reagan 30 years ago ?
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Ricky you have to win the 53% ‘ers- and they aint all Goldwater fans.

FlaMurph on March 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM

When was the last time the Republicans nominated a “True Conservative?”

didymus on March 3, 2012 at 9:06 PM

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