Obama in personal phone call to Sandra Fluke: Your parents should be proud

posted at 3:40 pm on March 2, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The president clearly thinks it’s advantageous to keep conservatives preoccupied with his contraception mandate because he sure ensures the topic stays in the spotlight. Today, he did that with a rare personal phone call to Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student who earlier this week testified in support of the mandate by saying that she and her peers are “going broke” to buy birth control.

In response to Fluke’s congressional testimony, radio host Rush Limbaugh called the Georgetown coed a “slut” and a “prostitute.” With those comments, he touched off a larger controversy. The DCCC and Emily’s List raised funds off Rush’s comments, while Congressional Democrats immediately demanded that Republican leadership disavow his words. House Speaker John Boehner did so tepidly, calmly calling Limbaugh’s remarks “inappropriate,” while also condemning any attempt to use his provocative rhetoric as a fundraising tool.

Today, Obama decided to weigh in, as well, calling Fluke to praise and encourage her and to say her parents should be proud of her activism.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said, “The president called Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke because he wanted to offer his support, express his disappointment, that she was the subject of an inappropriate personal attack and thank her for exercising her rights as a citizen to speak out on public policy.”

Carney said they spoke “for several minutes. It was a good conversation. Like a lot of people said the personal attacks directed her way are inappropriate. The fact that political discourse has become debased in many ways is bad enough. It’s worse when directed at a private citizen simply expressing her views on a matter of public policy.”

Asked what Obama thought about Limbaugh’s comments, Carney said, “They were reprehensible. They were disappointing. It is reprehensible that those kinds of personal and crude attacks could be leveled at someone like this young law school student who was simply expressing her opinion on a matter of public policy and doing it with a great deal of poise.”

Fluke also relayed the substance of the call to MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. (Incidentally, Fluke might not be the wide-eyed, 23-year-old she purports to be; sounds like she had the intention to raise this issue before she ever enrolled at Georgetown.)

(Also, note that, according to the lower third in the video, conservative backlash to the contraception mandate amounts to a “War on Women’s Health.” How far we’ve come from the first days after the mandate, when conservatives more successfully framed the issue as Obama’s “War on Religious Freedom.”)

Rush brushed aside the president’s phone call.

Amid his reaction though, Rush makes a great point. He says that he has been asked why he was so insulting to Fluke. He responded by making the point that his whole “free contraception” movement, on top of the “rich aren’t paying their fair share” movement is highly insulting to him. He likened it to a woman he didn’t know knocking on his door asking for money for contraception because she wanted to go and have sex with 3 guys that evening. Rush explains:

“Where is it written that when all of a sudden if you want something and don’t have the money for it, somebody else has to pay for it. I think the whole notion of being insulted here – there are a lot of us insulted by this whole idea that is growing throughout the Obama administration, that the people who make this country work are somehow doing their fair share, not paying their fair share, that we have to be punished even more. Here’s the latest example of it.”

Of course he ends the segment by suggesting, tongue-in-cheek, that he is waiting for Bill Clinton to call Sandra Fluke to see if she’s OK. Ha!

Dare I suggest that, somewhere along the line, this has gotten a bit — to borrow a word from Ron Paul — “silly“? Don’t misunderstand me: The contraception mandate is very, very serious. As conservatives have said from Day One, it represents an unconscionable assault on religious freedom. Similarly, sexual morality is a very serious issue. But this has become nothing more than a top-my-trauma contest, in which both sides attempt to make it sound as though they’ve been more seriously insulted than the other side.

Let’s not forget who started all of this. Nobody ever threatened to take away anybody’s contraception. Nobody (except George Stephanopoulous) was even talking about contraception until the administration reiterated its mandate to religiously-affiliated employers to provide insurance coverage that covers contraception against their religious beliefs.

The president knew what he was doing when he made the contraception mandate the first detail of Obamacare to be truly “felt.” He was willing to risk that it would rouse religious leaders because he knew it would rouse those who would perceive opposition to the mandate as a threat to consequence-free sex. It’s not — with or without the mandate, any two consenting adults are free to have sex and with contraception as much as they can afford – but don’t tell Sandra Fluke that. To her and to others like her, sex is apparently not consequence-free unless it’s also flat-out “free” for the folks having it.

The best bet for conservatives is to try — somehow — to rise above this fray and to espouse a higher, better way. That necessarily entails advocating conscience protections for religious employers and patiently, repeatedly explaining that contraception is widely accessible and affordable, but not a medical necessity. It might also entail (and I duck as I write this) the willingness to love women (and men!) by inviting them to lives as something other than moochers who can’t see past their own desires for instant gratification. “Hey, kids, try a life of personal responsibility and earned success! You might like it!”


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In the end it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. So stop hyperventilating and try to focus on the issues.

Dee2008 on March 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

We can’t focus on the issues, because Rush made it all about himself. Nobody is talking about the issues, we’re all talking about Rush Limbaugh. That’s a huge distraction.

Gelsomina on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

They’re not. The taxes I pay are. Look. You want to throw out a barb equating a military pension to welfare again? Be my guest. Just don’t act like you didn’t, again. Because you know it’s a stupid comparison, again. And then back down from your point, again. You want to make a statement, have the testicockles to make it.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

You sound offended, Jim! Lighten up. Post office, military – it’s the same check.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

A woman goes in front of congress and pleads for birth control to be provided for her. Sorry, but she brought all this criticism upon herself.

Rose on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

“Never was so much owed by so many.” – Winston Churchill, 1940

“Never has so much free stuff been demanded by so many to be paid for by so few.” – Resist We Much, 2012

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM

For the commentator who disagree with my post about Ace of Spades, give me some specific examples of when the underbloggers on his website disagree with Ace on anything. I’m assuming he pays them to post there, and thus don’t want to upset the guy who pay them by disagreeing with him.

In my view, Ace is a very strident pundit, and kind of a blowhard. Just b/c you used to be a liberal doesn’t mean you are more persausive in your arguments. If this Ace guy was being honest, he’d probably admit it was at least partly due to Rush that he moved away from liberalism. He got Rush’s arguments either directly or indirectly from other conservatives who listened to Rush, and thus, he moved to the right.

Dr. Tesla on March 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM

You sound offended, Jim! Lighten up. Post office, military – it’s the same check.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

You’re a despicable little Troll.

kingsjester on March 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Ace also asserted he coulld tell a Fluke is a slut joke that is actually funny if he wanted to, while asserting Rush’s joke wasn’t funny. Let’s hear the joke, Ace. If you are so witty, put it out there and let us decide if it’s funny. Anybody can claim to be great at humor. but if you are blogging in obscurity for the most part, it may be b/c you are not really that witty or funny.

Dr. Tesla on March 3, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Had Rush simply and correctly called the professional student a leech and a mooch, this would be a whole different debate.

MidniteRambler on March 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I have to agree, even though I understand the point Rush is making and believe technically speaking his point is sound. I’d like to see him walk this back, just a tad, and go with the leech and mooch argument as you so aptly put it.

lynncgb on March 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

I wish the word troll could be banned on here. Some people are obsessed that word. Expand the vocab.

Dr. Tesla on March 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Oh, Rush will apologize on Monday morning. He’ll say something along the lines of:

Rational Thought on March 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM

“I am sorry that I called Madam Fluke a slut.
She is just looking out for the interest of her colleagues attending The Best Little University of GeorgeTown.
Yes…her parents should be proud”

Electrongod on March 3, 2012 at 12:01 PM

A woman goes in front of congress and pleads for birth control to be provided for her. Sorry, but she brought all this criticism upon herself.

Rose on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

It’s only just begun. Wait until the leaks begin. Who prepped her for her testimony. Who paid her way. How was her timing so perfect for support of Barry’s mandate. Who supported her scholarship application to Georgetown. The drips and dribbles will begin soon.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:01 PM

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

You sound offended, Jim! Lighten up. Post office, military – it’s the same check.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Not offended. Embarrassed for you really. Afraid or incapable of carrying your point to it’s logical conclusion. You certainly have managed to avoid answering why liberals are incapable of providing for themselves though. Why do they need the government so much. They can’t survive it seems, without it.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

You’re a despicable little Troll.

kingsjester on March 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Better. You’ve got the steak knives, now go for the Eldorado!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Why do they need the government so much. They can’t survive it seems, without it.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Ah, the irony!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Not offended. Embarrassed for you really. Afraid or incapable of carrying your point to it’s logical conclusion. You certainly have managed to avoid answering why liberals are incapable of providing for themselves though. Why do they need the government so much. They can’t survive it seems, without it.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Liberals want the government to pay for everything because they want the government to control everything.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Rational Thought on March 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Is that you Rush?

lynncgb on March 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Dr. Tesla on March 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Tesla meet “Ken”
“Ken” meet Tesla

You two just retreat to a corner and discuss among yourselves.

The adults will be at the big table.

kingsjester on March 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Why do they need the government so much. They can’t survive it seems, without it.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Ah, the irony!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Why ironic?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

It’s Christian Sharia law that started this, btw.

urban elitist on March 3, 2012 at 7:52 AM

Grandmother, what a big, fat, red herring you have!

Really, in predominantly Christian countries, the government is executing women in soccer stadiums or stoning them for having been raped? Who knew?

Shari’a LAW is not only religious law. It is the law imposed by the government upon everyone in some Muslim countries.

I believe that it has been several centuries since the Catholic Church has wielded such power. I know that it has been around 450 years since Bloody Mary was burning Protestants at Tyburn.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BE A CATHOLIC.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO ATTEND A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PAY CHURCH TAXES (as is the case in European countries like Sweden).

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO WORK FOR ANY RELIGIOUS ORGANISATION.

Stop trying to force the Catholic Church (and other religions) and its adherents to change its central tenets to accommodate your want of the day.

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

You’re a despicable little Troll.

kingsjester on March 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Ken may meet a Seal some day. Would Ken be as venturesome as Jessie Ventura? Would Ken ever have the guts to tell a military person to their face that their career was the same as delivering the mail?

My guess is my daughter, after she gets over this third back surgery from an injury suffered while maintaining aircraft during the first dust-up in the desert, would dropkick his a$$ to a red state.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Why ironic?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I am guessing he will make some sort of remark about how military people wouldn’t have work if not for the government employing them.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I wish the word troll could be banned on here. Some people are obsessed that word. Expand the vocab.

Dr. Tesla on March 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Ok. How about “Fluckin’ Troll”?

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:12 PM

So, is it the fact that she uses birth control that makes her “promiscuous” or the fact that she wants the government to pay for it?

Someone help me figure this out. I know women who use birth control, and I’m trying to determine whether they’re all sluts, or just the ones who don’t pay for the Pill.

YYZ on March 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Why don’t you try reading the transcript of Rush’s actual remarks? That would answer your question, assuming, of course that you would actually COMPREHEND what he said.

JannyMae on March 3, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Ken may meet a Seal some day. Would Ken be as venturesome as Jessie Ventura? Would Ken ever have the guts to tell a military person to their face that their career was the same as delivering the mail?

My guess is my daughter, after she gets over this third back surgery from an injury suffered while maintaining aircraft during the first dust-up in the desert, would dropkick his a$$ to a red state.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Hey, we’ve all got a job. It’s a bit childish to think that what anyone does puts them in some way someone else.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

…what anyone does puts them in some way someone else.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Incoherency is your trademark. Carry on.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Sex is a government provided right? Ha…

ray on March 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM

…what anyone does puts them in some way someone else.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Resist We Much!!!

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Why ironic?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I am guessing he will make some sort of remark about how military people wouldn’t have work if not for the government employing them.

antisense on March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I’m guessing he won’t because he’s afraid. Innuendo is better. Funny though. As if it would bother someone what it thinks of their pension.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

The president clearly thinks it’s advantageous to keep conservatives preoccupied with his contraception mandate because he sure ensures the topic stays in the spotlight. -Tina Korbe

So it was President Obama who prompted Rush Limbaugh to slag a woman in public, to an audience of millions, for three days running? Is that the spotlight you’re talking about?

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

I’m guessing he won’t because he’s afraid. Innuendo is better. Funny though. As if it would bother someone what it thinks of their pension.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

What can I say, Jim – you’re a very intimidating fellow!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Someone help me figure this out. I know women who use birth control, and I’m trying to determine whether they’re all sluts, or just the ones who don’t pay for the Pill.

YYZ on March 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

And you pay for all their birth control, right?

Make sure you contribute to Sandra Fluke’s slutfund and jamboree @SandraFluke.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM

I was listening to Rush at the time when he made his comments. He didn’t call Sandra Fluke a “slut” and “prostitute” because she was having so much sex that she was going broke… His argument was, if a woman wants somebody else to PAY for her to have sex, doesn’t that make her a slut and a prostitute?

I haven’t heard an answer to that question yet.

JohnD13 on March 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM

That’s right.

Also, early on in his show, before he said much about Fluke, Rush said that what he was about to say was going to make the uproar over his “phony soldier” flap with Harry Reid pale by comparison. As I recall, he also said some people had advised him against getting into it at all.

This suggests to me that what Rush said, including his choice of words, was no “unforced error”. Far from it. It was a calculated judgment thought out in advance. Rush set out to attract as much enemy fire as he possibly could, in order to put the national spotlight on the matter. And of course he would not have done that if he were not very certain that he was going to win, just as he ended up winning the “phony soldier” flap with Harry Reid.

I’m betting the Bamster’s going to rue the day he allowed himself to get sucked into Rush’s web.

petefrt on March 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM

My guess is my daughter, after she gets over this third back surgery from an injury suffered while maintaining aircraft during the first dust-up …

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Hope that goes well for her and God Bless her.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM

It’s only just begun. Wait until the leaks begin. Who prepped her for her testimony. Who paid her way. How was her timing so perfect for support of Barry’s mandate. Who supported her scholarship application to Georgetown. The drips and dribbles will begin soon.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Heh, and dollar to donut says Rush had this info in his back pocket before he opened his show.

Over at JWF, manofaiki on 2/02/12 at 9:39 pm said:

At first she was just a ’23 year old coed’. Then she was a ’23 year old coed who also happened to be a ‘reproductive rights activist’. Then she was a ’23 year old coed who also happened to be a ‘reproductive rights activist’ who carefully investigated Georgetown’s policies and decided to enroll specifically to fight the University over contraception insurance.

And now? The ’23 year old coed’ who also happened to be a ‘reproductive rights activist’ who carefully investigated Georgetown’s policies and decided to enroll specifically to fight the University over contraception insurance turns out to be………….30 years old.

Street theater like this used to be so much more effective before there was an internet that people knew how to use. It’s getting harder all the time to keep the narrative simple, and effective, and getting the results you want before people figure out they’ve been had.

petefrt on March 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Shouldn’t be. It’s just my words here. Are you afraid of words?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Not in the least, Jim! You ask a lot of questions! I admire your intellectual curiosity. Just add that to the list, I guess!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM

So it was President Obama who prompted Rush Limbaugh to call a slut, a slut…

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

What part of slut are you having trouble with?

The publicaly subsidized sexual habit she wants us to pay for, or her public testimony about it on Capitol Hill before a bunch of old white men who already receive publicaly subsidized Viagra?

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

What can I say, Jim – you’re a very intimidating fellow!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Shouldn’t be. It’s just my words here. Are you afraid of words?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Not in the least, Jim! You ask a lot of questions! I admire your intellectual curiosity. Just add that to the list, I guess!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Well, you always seem to want to start a conversation with me. Seems you’re the one who’s “curious”. Brave and willing to stand by what you say, not so much.

But again, why do you have so much trouble breaking this dependancy on the government?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:45 PM

But again, why do you have so much trouble breaking this dependancy on the government?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:45 PM

I can see that, despite your MANY admirable qualities, you never learned to think for yourself. It’s understandable.

Bloated drug addicts shouldn’t tell you what to think. See, it’s cheaper to pay for contraception on the front end than pay for unwanted pregnancies on the back end. It’s business, Jim. I don’t expect you to understand.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

I’m betting the Bamster’s going to rue the day he allowed himself to get sucked into Rush’s web.

petefrt on March 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Definitely. Rush should start Monday’s show with all the people who have NOT had a personal call from the President of the United States. All the military heros, flood victims, tornado victims, Intel scholarship winners and on and on.

Instead, Obama chooses to personally call a 30 year old liberal activist and tells her “her parents should be proud?” At 30? Seriously?

monalisa on March 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

See, it’s cheaper to pay for contraception on the front end than pay for unwanted pregnancies on the back end. It’s business, Jim. I don’t expect you to understand.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

People that want to use birth control are already using it. Plus, insurance companies would already be paying for contraception if it was that cost effective.

Take Catholic women for example … the left says 98% of them already use birth control. The reason for forcing insurance companies to now foot the bill escapes me. Perhaps you know.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Funny answer. What do bloated drug addicts have to do with otherwise intelligent people being unable to figure out how to pay for their own contraceptives? As far as not understanding basic business, I do understand that the activities I like that don’t reconcile themselves within the budget, take a back seat to things my family actually needs. It’s not much more complicated than that unless you’re trying to rationalize how to get someone else to pay for things for you.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Shouldn’t be. It’s just my words here. Are you afraid of words?

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Well, Ken did say the other day he was afraid of Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum, so yes … he might be afraid of words too.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Whaddaya bet Ms. FluckyDuck investigated Georgetown’s BC policies shortly before Stephy posed the BC question to the GOP at the debate ??
Hey, jus sayin.

pambi on March 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Hope that goes well for her and God Bless her.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Thanks. She’s getting around OK again, but I remember her disappointment when it ended her plans for a naval career. But a lot gave up more.

Someone like KeninCT would never understand anyway.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 1:27 PM

See, it’s cheaper to pay for contraception on the front end than pay for unwanted pregnancies on the back end.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

How’s that working out for Social Security and Medicare?

Fact: There were 159.4 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1940.

Fact: There were 16.5 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1950.

Fact: There were 5.1 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1960.

Fact: There were 3.7 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1970.

Fact: There were 3.2 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1980.

Fact: There were 3.4 workers for each Social Security recipient in 1990.

Fact: There were 3.4 workers for each Social Security recipient in 2000.

Fact: There were 3.3 workers for each Social Security recipient in 2005.

Fact: There were only 1.75 full-time private-sector workers in the United States in 2010 for each person receiving benefits from Social Security, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Social Security Board of Trustees?

How’s it working out for Europe?

I’ll tell you. We call it:

Suicide-by-demographics.

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Indeed.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 1:33 PM

President Obama won the Moderates and Liberals last time around. You do the math.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 10:56 AM

And according to the network your Hero Rachel Maddow works at, he also set a new record by winning 70% of the votes of high school dropouts. That Inconvenient Truth was so damning that MSDNC actually scrubbed their 2008 exit polls from their website, with help from their Leftist friends at Google.

However, you can still find CNN’s 2008 exit polling, which likewise showed O’bama handily winning the high school dropout vote. They had him winning 61%.

You must be so proud of that achievement. It had never happened before.

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

How’s it working out for Europe?

I’ll tell you. We call it:

Suicide-by-demographics.

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Hmmmmmmmm … maybe that’s why the Dutch are now using mobile euthanasia vans.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:39 PM

So it was President Obama who prompted Rush Limbaugh to call a slut, a slut…

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

That’s a deliberate misquote. I wrote no such thing. Are you really so intellectually dishonest?

What part of slut are you having trouble with?

*snip*

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Neither you nor Limbaugh nor anyone else on this thread have any basis for calling the woman a slut. Zero. You don’t know her and you don’t know anything about her personal life other than she uses birth control.

As with the compulsory ultrasound laws, “slut shaming” a woman is a form of ritual humiliation intended to shut her up and keep her in line. The unrestrained gusto with which Hot Airians have indulged in such practice is really quite disappointing.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Neither you nor Limbaugh nor anyone else on this thread have any basis for calling the woman a slut. Zero. You don’t know her and you don’t know anything about her personal life other than she uses birth control.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM

I’m sorry, she put herself on a public stage declaring that sex is so important to her and her fellow female classmates that the burden of buying their own birth control is just too much and they want others to pay for it.

Plus, the left glorifies sex and encourages it. I see no reason for Fluke to be offended. She was called what the left encourages women to be anyway.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Facts to liberals: They are like the silver bullet, the wooden stake, the necklace of garlic, the Cross and sunlight.

Just a bunch of “Fluken’ Trolls”, they are. And dumb, too.

But hey, then again, maybe we should give them all the birth control pills and condoms they can use, and encourage frequent use. In three generations they will be on the endangered species list.

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Neither you nor Limbaugh nor anyone else on this thread have any basis for calling the woman a slut. Zero. You don’t know her and you don’t know anything about her personal life other than she uses birth control.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM

What would Bill Maher call her if she was a conservative?

Yoop on March 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

And according to the network your Hero Rachel Maddow works at, he also set a new record by winning 70% of the votes of high school dropouts. That Inconvenient Truth was so damning that MSDNC actually scrubbed their 2008 exit polls from their website, with help from their Leftist friends at Google.

However, you can still find CNN’s 2008 exit polling, which likewise showed O’bama handily winning the high school dropout vote. They had him winning 61%.

You must be so proud of that achievement. It had never happened before.

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

So what’s your point? High school dropouts shouldn’t be allowed to vote?

With all due respect (and by that I mean none) you are without question one of the most grasping, ignorant and least relevant people who comment here.

I think I put you on “ignore” previously, but I’m now cranking it up to “in perpetuity throughout the universe forever” ignore.

And please don’t respond. I want to ignore you just as you are.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

I’m sorry

The only part of your comment for which there can be no dispute.

she put herself on a public stage declaring that sex is so important to her and her fellow female classmates that the burden of buying their own birth control is just too much and they want others to pay for it.

Plus, the left glorifies sex and encourages it. I see no reason for Fluke to be offended. She was called what the left encourages women to be anyway.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM

See? I told you so.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Neither you nor Limbaugh nor anyone else on this thread have any basis for calling the woman a slut. Zero. You don’t know her and you don’t know anything about her personal life other than she uses birth control.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Did anyone hold a gun to her head and force her to go public?

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM

See? I told you so.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM

You haven’t told me anything. Of course, that’s nothing new.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM

When did whores and liberals get so thin skinned? If you don’t like public ridicule, go back to the cell that spawned you!

In related events, Proud Georgetown Woman: Sandra Fluke Does Not Speak For Me

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM

See? I told you so.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM

LOLOLOL. The title of Rush’s book !
LOLOLOL.

pambi on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

LOLOLOL. The title of Rush’s book !
LOLOLOL.

pambi on March 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I know. That’s exactly why I said it.
My, you are easily amused!

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

So what’s your point? High school dropouts shouldn’t be allowed to vote?

With all due respect (and by that I mean none) you are without question one of the most grasping, ignorant and least relevant people who comment here.

I think I put you on “ignore” previously, but I’m now cranking it up to “in perpetuity throughout the universe forever” ignore.

And please don’t respond. I want to ignore you just as you are.

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

LOL, Saul Alinsky taught you well. A+

Your squealing like a stuck pig, which I have bolded, proves that I just scored a direct hit. You can’t refute any of the facts I cite, so admit it by calling me names. That’s Elite Leftism 101, and it’s an utter joke.

Before the 2008 election, you Democrats kept strutting about and pounding your chests telling us how “smart” O’bama was. This despite the fact that we’ve never seen any of his academic paper trail. I even saw one article at the time crowing over how O’bama was “winning the High IQ Vote”.

And after O’bama was elected in 2008, your side of the aisle orgasmed over stuff like this (which I found on CBS):

When comparing the vote-by-state with the states with the highest percentage of advanced degrees, the top 16 states were all Obama states.

After that 2008 election, all of those exit polling numbers were freely available out there, and that is how I found the MSNBC exit polling showing that O’bama set a new record with 70% of the high school dropout vote. But the Democrat media never told us about that particular exit polling result, because it didn’t fit their Template. Telling us that O’bama won the votes of advanced degree holders did fit their Template, so they ran with it.

The fact that MSNBC later scrubbed those results proves just how damning they were to your side. And that irrefutable fact is why you’re reduced to sputtering and calling me names, simply because you have absolutely no credible response. As I said, Saul Alinsky taught you very well.

BTW, Hot Gas doesn’t have an “ignore” feature, so you’re stuck with me. Now back to Oz with you.

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM

More for Chumpy…from October of 2008:

McCain losing the high-IQ vote

Chistopher Buckley, the son of William F Buckley, Jr, is voting for Obama, because Obama is smarter than McCain and Palin.

“I’ve read Obama’s books, and they are first-rate. He is that rara avis, the politician who writes his own books. Imagine. He is also a lefty. I am not. I am a small-government conservative who clings tenaciously and old-fashionedly to the idea that one ought to have balanced budgets. On abortion, gay marriage, et al, I’m libertarian. I believe with my sage and epigrammatic friend P.J. O’Rourke that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take it all away.

But having a first-class temperament and a first-class intellect, President Obama will (I pray, secularly) surely understand that traditional left-politics aren’t going to get us out of this pit we’ve dug for ourselves.”

Del Dolemonte on March 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Of all the people Obama could have called; wounded vets, hospice nurses, EMT’s, etc., he calls the one who most reminds him of his mother.

Too bad grandma and grandpa did not pay for Stanley’s birth control. It would have saved a lot of lives and a lot of the debt we all must pay for.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Nice shooting Del. You got 5 in the 5x ring!

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM

chumpThreads on March 3, 2012 at 2:18 PM

You betcha !
Most on the right actually HAVE a sense of humor.

pambi on March 3, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Of all the people Obama could have called; wounded vets, hospice nurses, EMT’s, etc., he calls the one who most reminds him of his mother.

Too bad grandma and grandpa did not pay for Stanley’s birth control. It would have saved a lot of lives and a lot of the debt we all must pay for.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Well said, liberty-lover! Sounds like the fiber is kicking in. Keep up the good work!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Well said, liberty-lover! Sounds like the fiber is kicking in. Keep up the good work!

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 2:37 PMWhat sound alerts you that fiber is kicking in? You a fiber expert or something?

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 2:37

So, when do you testify to Congress on your KY and Preperation H costs and our need to subsidize your lifestyle?

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

So, when do you testify to Congress on your KY and Preperation H costs and our need to subsidize your lifestyle?

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Now, now. Perhaps you need a nap.

KeninCT on March 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

All this talk of subsidized sexual addictions has whet ken’s appetite.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

All this talk of subsidized sexual addictions has whet ken’s appetite.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Never come between Kenin and his hand.

What a mullet circa 1984, “varied” books, and a love of chick flicks has joined together, let no one put asunder.

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

All this talk of subsidized sexual addictions has whet ken’s appetite.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I wish it’d whet his brain. He needs new one liners. I suggest Google.

darwin on March 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Resist We Much on March 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

ken sure is acting “left out”.

I refuse to pay for his anal lube.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Bet Rush’s staff is working over time this weekend to put together a montage of awful things that have been said about conservative women. Can’t wait till Jake Tapper asks that bespectacled buffoon masquerading as Obama’s communications director if the president will be returning Bill Maher’s million bucks since he called Sarah Palin a c*nt and the president is — apparently — opposed to that kind of “incendiary” rhetoric. Or he’ll ask if the president will at least be calling Sarah Palin to commiserate. And don’t think Tapper won’t ask, either. He will. The hypocrisy is just too, too thick to let it pass.

Rational Thought on March 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

That’s the idea though, right? We’re to the point where we subsidize every aspect of a liberal’s needs in life because they claim they can’t manage it without the government kicking in some coin. Now we’re being asked to subsidize their leisure time too.

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Of all the people Obama could have called; wounded vets, hospice nurses, EMT’s, etc., he calls the one who most reminds him of his mother.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Ouch, that’s gotta leave a mark.

petefrt on March 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I still don’t understand why liberals are so utterly incapable of providing things for themselves. Are you embarrassed that you’re so helpless?
hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Nope, they are professional slaves but are ashamed by the autonomous

That effin beotch would serve us better if she jumped in front of a train

Look at me! I’m subserviant! Yay me, I’m a slave and I want people to provide for me

I myself, would rather be dead than an expert dependent

Not libs though, it’s their calling. They are hardly separate from beasts but then again can beasts can survive on their own

I hate the weaklings

Sonosam on March 3, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Ugh. Another try.

Of all the people Obama could have called; wounded vets, hospice nurses, EMT’s, etc., he calls the one who most reminds him of his mother.

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

petefrt on March 3, 2012 at 4:06 PM

hawkdriver on March 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

It seems just like that!

Dear Ms. Fluke,

Ask not what your country can do for you.

Ask what you can do for your country.

Affectionately,

President John F. Kennedy

P.S. Would you like to swimming with me sometime?

Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Her parents should be proud!!!!!!! What is this world coming to? Her parents should be mortified that they raised a little tramp.

sheesh on March 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM

urban elitist on March 3, 2012 at 7:24 AM

Still here. Still breathing heavily over sex. Weird. Deeply, deeply weird.

Nom de Boom on March 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Her parents should be proud!!!!!!! What is this world coming to? Her parents should be mortified that they raised a little tramp.

sheesh on March 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM
If this were my daughter, I’d wanna hide.

newportmike on March 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM

So, when do you testify to Congress on your KY and Preperation H costs and our need to subsidize your lifestyle?
Roy Rogers on March 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Don’t be silly.
Crisco is so cheap that even a basement dweller can afford it, Although the ones who live on the dole may have to step down to the store brand.

LegendHasIt on March 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

I wonder what Camille Paglia would have to say on this. “Leaving sex to the feminists is like letting your dog vacation at the taxidermist.”

NaCly dog on March 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Obama acted stupidly.

CatchAll on March 4, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Sorry didn’t read through all 16 pages but had to post:

Turns out the girl was lying and was not a student and her case is biased by the left, go figure.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sandra-fluke-a-fake-victim-of-georgetowns-policy-on-contraceptives/

landowner on March 5, 2012 at 10:42 AM

I have slowly been coming to the conclusion that Rush may cause the downfall of the Republican party, not that it would be missed at this point,

I say this as someone who agrees with Rush more than I disagree, but as much as he says he is not creating mind numbed robots, I think he is creating mind numbed robots.

Rush is usually effective at illustrating the absurd, by being more absurd, I get that, it seems to me that the problem is every ditto head thinks they can do the same thing. Rush can drive home a point in a one sided conversation with parody, humor, absurd observations, and it affirms what his listeners already believe, but does nothing to advance an idea, inspire thought or teach people why small gubament is better than big gubament.

Again, I AGREE with Rush more than I disagree with him, but I have seen many examples of ditto heads in action, that initially made me stop listening to his show and have led me to the conclusion that Rush is now more damaging to conservatism than helpful.

Two much abbreviated ditto head moments that contributed to my thinking:

I was sitting in a barber shop waiting for a hair cut, the news was on, ditto head watching news trying to do his best to “illustrate the absurd” and prove that the national media is biased, he thought he was funny, nobody else did, he left and some one said they may vote D in the next election just to ruin the guy’s day.

In line at the post office, ditto head being helped doesn’t like that he had to wait in line, that there was no sense of urgency from the lady at the counter, spurts out something to the effect of the only reason you femi nazis want socialized medicine is so there will be more union jobs.

Both time the ditto heads thought they were making a point by being funny, but lost the any credibility and effectively the argument.

The EIB school (or whatever he calls it) only offers affirmation to those who already have a conservative bent, I am not sure that is what the country needs.

And now instead of discussing the real issue at hand, gubament mandates, we have spent five days, 16 pages, and whatever else distracted, because Rush was trying to affirm his listeners instead of advance conservative, small gubament ideas.

dutch love on March 6, 2012 at 1:40 AM

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