Rush: If we’re gonna pay for birth control, we want something in return

posted at 6:35 pm on March 1, 2012 by Tina Korbe

When Rush Limbaugh called Georgetown law student and so-called contraception activist Sandra Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute,” he immediately took heat for it. What’d the legendary radio host do in response? He didn’t back down, that’s for sure.

Today, Rush sought to clarify his comments, but stood by his fundamental premise: Women who take money for sex are prostitutes, so women who take money for contraception for sex aren’t far behind.

He even went one step further, suggesting that the hard-working Americans who will have to pay higher insurance premiums to finance law students’ sex lives should be able to verify that their dollars-for-contraception are put to good use:

“If we’re going to have to pay for this — then we want something in return, Ms. Fluke,” Limbaugh said. “And that would be the videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we’re getting for our money.”

Limbaugh attempted to clarify his comments and explain the rationale for his derisive labeling of Fluke.

“Now what did I say?” Limbaugh asked. “I said if we’re paying for this, it makes these women sluts, prostitutes. What else could it be? We are buying it.”

Rush’s comments are intentionally provocative, but they also underscore the point that women and men who aren’t sexually active rarely have a need for contraception. Others have made the point he’s making — that if we’re gonna pay for birth control, we want something in return — in a less over-the-top way by pointing out that, if we’re going to pay for our neighbor’s birth control, then we should have a say in our neighbor’s sex life. How does that newly-coined saying go? “If you don’t want Uncle Sam in your bedroom, don’t ask Uncle Sam to pay for what goes down in your bedroom.”

Again, contraception is not a necessity and fertility is not a disease. As plenty of folks have pointed out, contraception is, in fact, impossible to “insure,” as it’s impossible to “insure” against an expense that a person knows for a fact he or she will incur. In that case, it’s just an expense — and the person who’s gonna incur it should budget for it.


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less like a child’s NyQuil and more like a 12pack.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:49 PM

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I’m making no judgment on that, and don’t pretend to speak for the troops. I’m suggesting that the concept of Rush as some sort of courageous voice in the wilderness is nauseating, compared to people who actually risk something, and who do so at much lower wages.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I can name countless liberal “hero” icons that have not served.

And they sure don’t suffer the media like conservatives do to express their opinions. If conservative talkers aren’t civilian heroes in my book, progressive talkers are cowards.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM

But i assure everyone on this board that the vast majority of Americans do not ,in heart and personal experience
, believe that most drug store contraception is healthcare. They just don’t want it banned. In my neck of America contraception is more like a 12pack then a child’s nyquil.

Sorry about the grammar. I just learned to write recently so…/

off to sleep

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Spot on. Good night!

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM

A thyroid is necessary to live, sex not so much

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Hey now, let’s not get crazy here.

BDavis on March 1, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Why would any adult, working woman want her employer involved in the purchase of her birth control

mbs on March 1, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Why would you want an employer involved in the purchase of your diabetes medication, since it may be a sign of your sloth and gluttony, which some employers find offensive in the first place?

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I was going to be polite, until I read the Breitbart tweets on Ted Kennedy’s death. I’m sure he’d want me to adopt the same level of solemnity and respect he himself embraced.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM

What’s the connection? Did Breitbart abandon any young girls to drown?

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Liberal begging BS.

What do you freaking earn for yourself? What do you have that you didn’t pull straight out of our pockets.

Why are you so pathetically incapable of taking care of yourselves?

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I can name countless liberal “hero” icons that have not served.

And they sure don’t suffer the media like conservatives do to express their opinions. If conservative talkers aren’t civilian heroes in my book, progressive talkers are cowards.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Yeah. Rush and Sarah are suffering. With their millions. Because they’re threatened with — what exactly? Some blogger saying something mean?

They brand themselves by baiting liberals and earn vast sums with their brands. Every bit of outrage aimed in their direction is money in the bank, and they know it. (There’s no actual other explanation for the recent Rush “slut” comments, unless he really is the syphilitic fascist that some suspect). It’s not courage, it’s marketing, and you’ve bought into it.

urban elitist on March 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Fluke said that she wanted the birth control to have p0lenty of sex, and couldn’t be botheed with having to make it fit into her budget. She didn’t say a word about any “serious conditions” that she had, aside from a rather voracious appetite.

ghostwriter on March 2, 2012 at 12:02 AM

urban elitist on March 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I guess you don’t pay attention to the news. Note the name she was called.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was…

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

TitularHead on March 2, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Here’s another.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Why would you want an employer involved in the purchase of your diabetes medication, since it may be a sign of your sloth and gluttony, which some employers find offensive in the first place?

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Find me the name or policy of ANY religious organization that prohibits the pill for treating endometriosis……….

WryTrvllr on March 2, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Did you ever have someone move next to you to write a book? Creepy stalker.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Why would you want an employer involved in the purchase of your diabetes medication, since it may be a sign of your sloth and gluttony, which some employers find offensive in the first place?

It’s kinda funny how the media brands these people….

WryTrvllr on March 2, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Both Limbaugh and Hannity receive death threats via e-mail every day.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Find me the name or policy of ANY religious organization that prohibits the pill for treating endometriosis……….

WryTrvllr on March 2, 2012 at 12:09 AM

The bill doesn’t provide for any discretion to doctors in writing birth control prescriptions. It gives employers an option to ban categories of medication and treatment so long as the employer indicates that it’s based any arbitrary ‘moral’ objection.

If your employer decides that it’s time to teach a lesson to overweight employees, it could decide to ban all diabetes treatment based on their morale objections to obesity.

There’s a good reason for the cardinal rule of equal protection under the law.

She didn’t say a word about any “serious conditions” that she had, aside from a rather voracious appetite

How do you know that it’s any different from any other woman or other man?

bayam on March 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM

urban elitist on March 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Both Limbaugh and Hannity receive death threats via e-mail every day.
hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 12:12 AM

.
In addition to Sarah, Glenn, Rick S., Mitt, Steven Crowder, Michelle “Boss Emeritus”, Ann Coulter . . . . . . list goes on.
Andrew Breitbart used to get death threats . . . . . . : (

listens2glenn on March 2, 2012 at 12:47 AM

The bill doesn’t provide for any discretion to doctors in writing birth control prescriptions. It gives employers an option to ban categories of medication and treatment so long as the employer indicates that it’s based any arbitrary ‘moral’ objection.

If your employer decides that it’s time to teach a lesson to overweight employees, it could decide to ban all diabetes treatment based on their morale objections to obesity.

There’s a good reason for the cardinal rule of equal protection under the law.

Nifty. So I presume you are referring to the amendment that just died in the Senate? But I am just waiting on which establishment refused women the pill to treat their endometriosis.

WryTrvllr on March 2, 2012 at 12:55 AM

In addition to Sarah, Glenn, Rick S., Mitt, Steven Crowder, Michelle “Boss Emeritus”, Ann Coulter . . . . . . list goes on.
Andrew Breitbart used to get death threats . . . . . . : (

listens2glenn on March 2, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Let us also pause to recall the smoke billowing from Sarah Palin’s firebombed church. Commenters like urban elitist have remarkably selective memories.

Nom de Boom on March 2, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Rush Limbaugh is a fat-ass and a pompous (expletive deleted). Why anyone listens to the man is beyond me.
mountainaires on March 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM

We do it to piss-off people like yourself.
And it WORKS! : )

listens2glenn on March 2, 2012 at 1:08 AM

listens2glenn on March 2, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Let us also pause to recall the smoke billowing from Sarah Palin’s firebombed church. Commenters like urban elitist have remarkably selective memories.
Nom de Boom on March 2, 2012 at 1:03 AM

.
Worse than that.
Commenters like urban elitist are cheering the perpetrators on.

listens2glenn on March 2, 2012 at 1:09 AM

The bill doesn’t provide for any discretion to doctors in writing birth control prescriptions. It gives employers an option to ban categories of medication and treatment so long as the employer indicates that it’s based any arbitrary ‘moral’ objection.

If your employer decides that it’s time to teach a lesson to overweight employees, it could decide to ban all diabetes treatment based on their morale objections to obesity.

There’s a good reason for the cardinal rule of equal protection under the law.

http://workrights.us/?p=474
read it carefully bayam

WryTrvllr on March 2, 2012 at 1:11 AM

In all of this argument, the young woman at the center allegedly requires “contraception” because of a medical problem, to wit: ovarian cysts which have already cost her one ovary. It happens.

In that case, she doesn’t need “contraception”, she needs hormonal treatment, which is an off-label use of the pill. She does need the pill, but not for contraception.

If she got up and talked about not being able to afford hormonal management for ovarian cysts which have already cost her one of her ovaries, she’d get a very different, much more sympathetic response from most people. Maybe not free pills, no, but sympathy. Not so if what she wants is sex without consequences.

chotii on March 2, 2012 at 2:39 AM

Like Jane Goodall studying the language of primates.

I just don’t understand your comments.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

funny, you seem to understand well my last comment. I think you are also a primate like me.

nathor on March 2, 2012 at 5:32 AM

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

That would be a medical problem – which is covered under my BC/BS.

Just one more example of libprogs inventing another crisis (which can only be solved by GovernmentMan!)

Squiggy on March 2, 2012 at 5:59 AM

I was laughing my head off yesterday when Rush said post the sex video.
For goodness sakes Ms. Pigolsi, you went Georgetown (a college that cost $48k a yrs) to get a sex crazed women to beg us to buy her birth control. You people have either no shame or no brains.
Maybe she’d like me to buy the wine & movies too?

mmcnamer1 on March 2, 2012 at 6:32 AM

Medical problems constitute only an infinitesimal percentage of those requiring “birth control”. The real problem appears to be the left’s obsession with constant and sustained fruitless breeding. The solution is for them to stop fornicating like a bunch of sex starved rats . . . but if the insist then let them buy their own damn birth control.

rplat on March 2, 2012 at 6:49 AM

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

funny, you seem to understand well my last comment. I think you are also a primate like me.

nathor on March 2, 2012 at 5:32 AM

Some have smatterings of coherency.

hawkdriver on March 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM

Yahoo News / aka Associated Propaganda aka AP

Spins this story as left as they can……DUH

Message from Possum Holler for Santorum campaign!!!!!

ATTACK THE PRESS, Flyover Country loathes the liars!!

PappyD61 on March 2, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

retweeted by @AndrewBreitbart

Good Lt on March 2, 2012 at 8:13 AM

No doubt that Rubber Man Hussein will defend the cause up to the breaking point and even up the ante so that free abortions are offered if pregnancy occurs due to a defective condom.

Annar on March 2, 2012 at 8:34 AM

The amount of loathsome misogyny on this topic is shocking, even for a conservative blog! Calling women “sluts?” Really, is it 1950? We cheer when men screw as many girls in college as possible. No one is telling a man to keep his legs closed to prevent pregnancies. All the responsibility is on women, all of the scorn is on women. Now I’m in a long distance relationship, so its been a while, but I’m pretty sure it takes two to tango. Unless he is supremely drunk, a man can not unknowingly place his penis inside of a woman without a condom on. Which means that TWO people are engaging in ‘unsafe sex.’

I have a great idea. You want the government to start paying for birth control? The minute single women get organized and stop having sex with men (no messing around either, no kissing, no anything) on the condition that birth control become free it will happen.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I have a great idea. You want the government to start paying for birth control? The minute single women get organized and stop having sex with men (no messing around either, no kissing, no anything) on the condition that birth control become free it will happen.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I have a great idea too. STFU idiot.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 8:49 AM

She puts the ho in hoya.

Fuquay Steve on March 2, 2012 at 8:55 AM

I have a great idea. You want the government to start paying for birth control? The minute single women get organized and stop having sex with men (no messing around either, no kissing, no anything) on the condition that birth control become free it will happen.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 8:39 AM

So tell us. Why does that Poli Sci dingbat do just that? Why does she keep putting out for you cheap leftist b@stards who are too cheap to even spring for birth control? What is it about some women who seem to attract the lowest common denominator of males, in her case, leftist males?

Do tell, chumplett.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 8:57 AM

She puts the ho in hoya.

Fuquay Steve on March 2, 2012 at 8:55 AM

As I said, looking at the pictures of her, Mizz Fluke is having all the sex she can now because she’s going to look like Elena Kagan within 5 years. Let’s just say she won’t be able to have sex in the back of the car without busting the springs.

wildcat72 on March 2, 2012 at 8:58 AM

So tell us. Why does that Poli Sci dingbat do just that? Why does she keep putting out for you cheap leftist b@stards who are too cheap to even spring for birth control? What is it about some women who seem to attract the lowest common denominator of males, in her case, leftist males?

Do tell, chumplett.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Cornfed RAGE! Focus on your liberty!. It’s all about liberty, dontchaknow!

KeninCT on March 2, 2012 at 9:00 AM

So tell us. Why does that Poli Sci dingbat do just that? Why does she keep putting out for you cheap leftist b@stards who are too cheap to even spring for birth control?

It is not my, or anyone’s place to diagnose her motives for engaging in sexual activity. The other really ugly under current here is conservative men’s all encompassing constant need to know every little detail of women’s sex lives and to even be privy to every inch of their bodies. From the desire to see sex tapes of any woman on government paid birth control to the sick TV ultrasound requirements, you all really want the right to explore any woman’s body at any time.

For men who receive insurance coverage for ED, are they required to film and document every boner to the world? Explain why they have the desire to achieve consistent turgid-ness? Must they go before Congress and Rush Limbaugh and confess why they can’t just be satisfied pleasuring their partner orally or with some sort of toy? No, none of those questions are asked because men have an absolute right to sexual pleasure and fun and women need to feel ashamed and dirty. This whole contraception battle is showing the country the true colors of the right when it comes to women. You all are going to be slaughtered on the female vote in November, so please keep it up. Call young succesful women with careers “sluts” it’s going to go far.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 9:04 AM

(There’s no actual other explanation for the recent Rush “slut” comments, unless he really is the syphilitic fascist that some suspect). It’s not courage, it’s marketing, and you’ve bought into it.

urban elitist on March 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM

And you’re too much of a Pu$$y, as an individual and as a movement, to just take on Rush’s words. The trash you associated with thought it would be keen to take some dingbat out of her Poli Sci studies, and to use her as an unwitting dupe of a prop. It backfired. It backfired as big time as a political prop has backfired.

And you’re just not man enough to admit it. In fact, you’re probably the kind of man our little prop is putting out for right now. Too cheap to spring for some pills.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Call young succesful women with careers “sluts” it’s going to go far.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 9:04 AM

A). It’s a bit, dumb@$$. I don’t think Rush really wants to see that scag in action. I sure wouldn’t.

B). She has no career. She’s a Poli Sci graduate student, with a part time job as a Democrat prop. That is no career.

C) Demanding money for sex makes one a whore. Telling the entire country how much sex you want to have, and how much money you’re demanding to have that sex makes you a whore. Own it.

Even after 20+ years, Rush still has it, apparently. Such a shame, a large group of women who are incapable of choosing their religion, their job, or even going to the store and buying some pills, can let Rush get to them so.

Unless Rush is right…and they know it.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Why would any adult, working woman want her employer involved in the purchase of her birth control
mbs on March 1, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Why would you want an employer involved in the purchase of your diabetes medication, since it may be a sign of your sloth and gluttony, which some employers find offensive in the first place?
In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.
bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Why is it the legal responsibility for employers/organization and fellow citizens to provide anything to you?
The state has the obligation and authority to force organizations and citizens to pay for the arbitrarily chosen “essentials” in life?
Where does this end? What products can I get the government to force you to buy for me?

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Mizz Fluke is having all the sex she can now because she’s going to look like Elena Kagan within 5 years.

Dude! Calling her a whore is one thing but that’s just harsh.

LMAO!

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 9:11 AM

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 9:04 AM

You are missing the entire point. She’s free to have as much sex as she wants but it’s ridiculous that she wants us to fund it. Her demands are completely absurd and you’re going to see a lot of absurd things said to highlight it.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Cornfed RAGE! Focus on your liberty!. It’s all about liberty, dontchaknow!

KeninCT on March 2, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Ah, the pu$$y who is all hat no cattle is up early. Still see your a one note record, and are still too much of a pu$$y to ever engage.

Which is why I’ve always stated how much it must suck to be a leftist.

Let’s see, I’m not living on a coast, I like liberty, and Sarah Palin. You’s a smart one, boy.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Here’s the deal. I’ll pay for liberals to have protected sex if they will buy me guns and ammo.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Ah, the pu$$y who is all hat no cattle is up early. Still see your a one note record, and are still too much of a pu$$y to ever engage.

Which is why I’ve always stated how much it must suck to be a leftist.

Let’s see, I’m not living on a coast, I like liberty, and Sarah Palin. You’s a smart one, boy.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Liberty, Sarah Palin and Amber Waves of Grain! Add a couple of flags and an eagle and you’ve got a new Fox show intro!

KeninCT on March 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Fluke has inspired me. I’m going to appear before Congress and cry that I’m going broke because of all the guns you aren’t buying for me and that it violates my 2nd amendment rights.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Once again I will restate a premise I put forward.

These liberals tell us they are progressive, more intelligent, and more tolerant, yet they impugn anyone who disagrees with them as the champion and chase the most base of animal/human behaviour.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Fluke has inspired me. I’m going to appear before Congress and cry that I’m going broke because of all the guns you aren’t buying for me and that it violates my 2nd amendment rights.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Yeah, I DEMAND my class III license!

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Why are you so pathetically incapable of taking care of yourselves?

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM

#1: I’m presently on level 127 of the online, multiplayer role-playing game “Age of Conan” and I’m on the verge of acquiring the magic feather in the Dark Forest of Yawn that will enable me to hookup with females (I’m pretty sure they are females) in the on-line taverns,

#2: I tried to leverage my grant funded, community college AA degree in Political Science (minor in Tasmanian underwater basket weaving) into a lucrative consulting job but ended up selling shoes at the mall for minimum wage,

#3: I spent all my allowance money, that mommy gave me for taking out the garbage, on pimple medication.

oldfiveanddimer on March 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM

The amount of loathsome misogyny on this topic is shocking, even for a conservative blog! Calling women “sluts?” Really, is it 1950? We cheer when men screw as many girls in college as possible. No one is telling a man to keep his legs closed to prevent pregnancies. All the responsibility is on women, all of the scorn is on women. Now I’m in a long distance relationship, so its been a while, but I’m pretty sure it takes two to tango. Unless he is supremely drunk, a man can not unknowingly place his penis inside of a woman without a condom on. Which means that TWO people are engaging in ‘unsafe sex.’

I have a great idea. You want the government to start paying for birth control? The minute single women get organized and stop having sex with men (no messing around either, no kissing, no anything) on the condition that birth control become free it will happen.

libfreeordie on March 2, 2012 at 8:39 AM

To an extent I agree with you on some of your points, but also (to an extent) I agree with Rush Limbaugh on this issue too.

As a Christian, I recognize that God ordains sex for marriage only, so I cannot agree with young women who want funding for birth control, if the reason they want it is to have as much unrestrained sex as they want at anytime with anyone.

There might still be some people today who harbor double standards about gender and sex (i.e., they think it’s nifty for a man to sleep around, but if a woman does it, she’s a “slut”), but I don’t think that is as true anymore as it once was.

It seems to me that promiscuity is encouraged, cheered, and expected for both males and females these days, in the media, entertainment, and by every day people.

People who abstain from sex for moral reasons are treated as though there is something wrong with them, or as though they are a “loser.” (I sadly even see this attitude among some conservatives at times.)

I am empathetic with the point Rush was trying to make, but I do think that referring to the young woman as a “slut” and using a porn movie analogy (that she she should release movies of herself engaging in sex if tax payers cover her birth control) was over the top and inappropriate.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

It’ called “BIRTH CONTROL” it’s not called Midol.

Dr Evil on March 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

It’ called “BIRTH CONTROL” it’s not called Midol.

Dr Evil on March 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Dr Evil, I’m a conservative female, a devout Christian, who had a doctor recommend I take birth control pills for problems I was having with my period – and I was not sleeping around. Sometimes women do in fact need birth control pills for reasons not having to do with sex or preventing pregnancy.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Dr Evil, I’m a conservative female, a devout Christian, who had a doctor recommend I take birth control pills for problems I was having with my period – and I was not sleeping around. Sometimes women do in fact need birth control pills for reasons not having to do with sex or preventing pregnancy.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Coolio chica, they are available to purchase for a modest sum in myriad loci.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM

My first post did not go through, so I’ll try again.

I am empathetic to a degree with Rush’s points, but I do think that calling a woman a “slut” and demanding she make porn movies to make up for birth control funding is inappropriate.

I do think there is still a lop-sided amount of responsibility placed on females to prevent pregnancy. People these days want zero restraint on sex, but everyone still expects the woman to make sure no pregnancy occurs.

I do disagree a little with the liberal above who was saying there’s a double standard in place, that men are applauded for being promiscuous while women who do it are called sluts – some people might feel that way,true, but these days, both males and females are encouraged to have casual sex.

These days, people (regardless of gender) who abstain from sex for moral reasons are the ones who are often ridiculed, (and sometimes I am sad to say, by other conservatives), but especially in popular entertainment where virginity or sexual purity is treated like a disease.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Coolio chica, they are available to purchase for a modest sum in myriad loci.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Don’t tell me “to chill” – that is condescending.

I was not asking anyone to pay for anything.

I don’t use them.

But a doctor said due to my medical problems, I might want to consider them.

I don’t think I have a problem with women getting funding for the pills if it’s for a genuine health issue, but if it’s only to have unrestrained sex with their boyfriend, no.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

What strikes me as funny about this whole discussion(pardon the pun), is watching the talking heads from the left arguing how free contraception is absolutely necessary for women’s health and is their right. It’s almost as if they got marching orders to prop up the meme of the day from the regime. The young lady in question has made a complete laughing stock out of herself and the butt (sorry) of too many jokes. There was a time, sadly gone by, when this subject was not discussed in public discourse.

Kissmygrits on March 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Did Rush run out of anti-Romney tidbits or something?

claudius on March 2, 2012 at 10:10 AM

My first post did not go through, so I’ll try again.
I am empathetic to a degree with Rush’s points, but I do think that calling a woman a “slut” and demanding she make porn movies to make up for birth control funding is inappropriate.
I do think there is still a lop-sided amount of responsibility placed on females to prevent pregnancy. People these days want zero restraint on sex, but everyone still expects the woman to make sure no pregnancy occurs.
I do disagree a little with the liberal above who was saying there’s a double standard in place, that men are applauded for being promiscuous while women who do it are called sluts – some people might feel that way,true, but these days, both males and females are encouraged to have casual sex.
These days, people (regardless of gender) who abstain from sex for moral reasons are the ones who are often ridiculed, (and sometimes I am sad to say, by other conservatives), but especially in popular entertainment where virginity or sexual purity is treated like a disease.
TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Rush actually spent several minutes asking who these guys are and why Fluke isn’t demanding they pay instead of going before Congress and demanding all of us pay for it.

Rush’s comments are absurd on purpose. It gets lots of attention and makes liberals head explode. I believe Rush does this primarily to point out how absurd Fluke is.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Rush’s comments are absurd on purpose. It gets lots of attention and makes liberals head explode. I believe Rush does this primarily to point out how absurd Fluke is.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I still think Rush handled it wrong. As a female (and a Christian conservative) I found his comments offensive. I’ve listened to Rush for years, but I don’t always agree with how he chooses to handle things.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Why would you want an employer involved in the purchase of your diabetes medication, since it may be a sign of your sloth and gluttony, which some employers find offensive in the first place?

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

You are an ill informed moron of the first degree.

NOMOBO on March 2, 2012 at 10:16 AM

I find it more offensive that Fluke wants to fundamentally change the relationship between citizen and state and make me pay for her to have whatever arbitrary things the state bureaucrats deem she has a “right” to than Rush calling her a slut.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM

I still think Rush handled it wrong. As a female (and a Christian conservative) I found his comments offensive. I’ve listened to Rush for years, but I don’t always agree with how he chooses to handle things.

TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Your absolute moral authority card has been rebuked. chillate chica!

Rush used to perform caller abortions, and now he calls a slut a slut.

Some two bit coed whore went before the highest rep house in the land and demanded free rubbers. And now we have reprobate losers claiming all sorts of absolute moral authority in challenging the one guy on radio that is advocating against all this liberal BS.

I’m not buying it Tigerpaw. I’ve been listening to Rush for damn near 20 years. I am a conservative Christian guy. Rush was right on in illustrating the absurdity of this floozie’s premise by going to the logical outworking of her worldview.

It was hilarious. It is hilarious.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Rush’s comments are absurd on purpose. It gets lots of attention and makes liberals head explode. I believe Rush does this primarily to point out how absurd Fluke is.
gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM
I still think Rush handled it wrong. As a female (and a Christian conservative) I found his comments offensive. I’ve listened to Rush for years, but I don’t always agree with how he chooses to handle things.
TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Sure I can see people being offended by Rush’s statements but I find it a sad commentary on our citizenry that a radio hosts comments are more offensive than a citizen going before Congress and demanding the redistribution of wealth using the force of the state to satisfy her sexual urges or any other medical needs she has.

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Everybody missed the headfake. Why do only Catholics get an ‘exemption’? What about those of us who just don’t want to pay higher government mandated premiums to cover other peoples ‘choices’.

DANEgerus on March 2, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Why don’t we need to buy food for Ms. Fluke? And shelter? And transportation?

gwelf on March 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Not only does Fluke want to be responsible for her actions in the bedroom now she doesn’t want to be responsible for the words coming out of her mouth.

She gave the figures and if it adds up to 3 or 4 times a day then you have to expect people to call a spade a spade.

Wagthatdog on March 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM

I enjoy playing video games, but as you know, the cost can exceed $3,000 over several years and i’m going broke paying for video games.

Can someone please pay for them?

Wagthatdog on March 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Rush in a tee shirt and silk boxer shorts, sweating, breathing raggedly, bathed in the bluish glow of his laptop screen. Young, fit men and women, but most assuredly men, cavort in an endless loop in the videos his hard-earned tax dollars have provided him when exchanged for birth control. His young wife asleep upstairs or perhaps out once again visiting her chronically sick aunt, whom Rush has never met. The fumbling, the hysteria and the final, inescapable shame.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM

rush should keep riding this issue. and hopefully some conservative female pundits should weigh in?

what did rev wright say about bill clinton, “he’s been riding us dirty?” how much more welfare can a broke country afford?

Dr. Demento on March 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM

I still think Rush handled it wrong. As a female (and a Christian conservative) I found his comments offensive. I’ve listened to Rush for years, but I don’t always agree with how he chooses to handle things.
TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Rush took leftist gobbledygook and reduced it to base English. It sounded crude because at it’s base, what that woman was saying was crude. It may be offensive to some because leftism is offensive…at it’s core.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Your deflection still doesn’t mean the woman called herself a whore, chump.

Why is it, trash like yourself just can’t own up to what you believe? If you believe what this woman is saying, man up and defend it. Don’t be such a leftist pu$$y, because your fantasies of Rush in a sweaty t-shirt bathed in the light of your PC isn’t going to deflect from what this woman said.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 10:46 AM

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM

All you have done is confess your own state.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM

All you have done is confess your own state.

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Hey, I didn’t ask for the videos. Your fearless leader did.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Why is it, trash like yourself just can’t own up to what you believe? If you believe what this woman is saying, man up and defend it. Don’t be such a leftist pu$$y, because your fantasies of Rush in a sweaty t-shirt bathed in the light of your PC isn’t going to deflect from what this woman said.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 10:46 AM

In my state, men don’t call young ladies names.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM

LMFAO, you are a leftist reprobate. I don’t give a GODDAMN what you think or confess. You are completely reprobate. And you make me complete :)

tom daschle concerned on March 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM

In my state, men don’t call young ladies names.

“Whore” is in the Bible, genius.

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Just wanted to pass along my latest blog post – I went extra heavy on the snark:

Pay to Play (or, No, I Don’t Want to Subsidize Your Sex Life) http://wp.me/p1ipEz-1kp

You want to be able to have consequence-free sex, and you want ME to pay for it with higher insurance rates? OK, fine – I’ll make you a deal:

I’ll pay for your drunken weekends with whichever guy straps on the beer goggles at last call, but in return I expect you to keep your piehole shut when you have to pay higher insurance rates for MY lifestyle choices.

And boy, howdy, am I going to stick it to you BUT GOOD.

You just THINK you’ve been screwed by all of those Frat Boys, but it is nothing compared to the rogering you are going to get from me.

I am going to start living a life of indulgent luxury – I’m going to plop my fat ass on my couch and watch television all day long – no exercise for me. I’m going to eat the fattiest, greasiest foods that I can find – there isn’t going to be a vegetable in sight. I don’t drink, smoke, or use drugs, but I am thinking about taking them up – just so I can run up your insurance premiums.

You see Ms. Fluke, you have as much as admitted that no one has to take personal responsibility for their actions. No, you sat in front of a national audience and said that each of us has to pay for whatever other people in the rest of the country decide they want to do.

And if you don’t want them telling you what you can or cannot do with YOUR body, then you sure as heck don’t get to tell them what they can or cannot do with theirs.

There’s more (with pictures!) – I hope you enjoy it!

TeresainFortWorth on March 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I still think Rush handled it wrong. As a female (and a Christian conservative) I found his comments offensive. I’ve listened to Rush for years, but I don’t always agree with how he chooses to handle things.
TigerPaw on March 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Really – that’s as much as you’re offended?
The folks here who like and defended it…they are nincompoops.
Just let them be…no helping ‘em.
But you don’t defend it – but go with he ‘handled it wrong’?
His rant was so sleazy and mean spirited – not to mention stupid and ignorant. Does the guy even understand how BC works?
Maybe he’s confusing his taking one (little blue) pill every single time he has sex with how The Pill works as an ongoing cycle – even if you’re only going have sex once.
But he knows that – it just didn’t fit with his yuk yuk snickering porno narrative….about an actual person.
You think he even really cares about the issue at all?
And you – a woman and a ‘Christian’ – feel he ‘handled it wrong’.
I bet you’d feel stronger about it than that – if you really thought about it – and didn’t have to be so cautious about upsetting your fellow ‘conservatives’.

Read this great take down and illumination of this episode:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2012/03/most-bizarrely-offensive-shit-rush.html

verbaluce on March 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Who is she sleeping with that she has to buy the rubbers? Must be a liberal occupy protester. But what are they protesting while they are occupying her?

meci on March 2, 2012 at 11:23 AM

LMFAO, you are a leftist reprobate. I don’t give a GODDAMN what you think or confess. You are completely reprobate. And you make me complete :)

In my state, men don’t take the name of God in vain.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM

So, what kind of BC costs $1000 per year ??
Does that include the cost(s) of a, um, ‘D&C’ or two ???

pambi on March 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM

“Whore” is in the Bible, genius.

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Yeah, but coveting porn videos isn’t.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM

verbaluce on March 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM

You can pay for Madame Fluke’s hobby if you want. She oughta be easy enough to find nowadays, having made herself into a celebrity fornicator.

It seems like she’d make it worth your while to look her up too, especially if you told her that you were bringing the prophylactics.

Wanting me to pay for it however, or talk nice about it, is moral imbecility.

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Yeah, but coveting porn videos isn’t.
plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Then stop doing it.

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Do I hafta have sex in order to be eligible for free contraceptives? Can’t I use the Trojans on the spout of my wine vat to keep the pressure constant during the ‘yeasting process’?

dahni on March 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Then stop doing it.

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

You have apparently mistaken me for a four-times married, morbidly obese junkie, better known as the leader of the Republican Party. I won’t be able to blog much longer. Rush’s show is coming on soon and I want to hear him lecture on traditional family values.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

If a woman WANTS to take the pill…. NO ONE IS STANDING IN HER WAY!

There is not a single state that does not have a planned parenthood office or affiliate (like free clinics) they can get their free or low cost pills, condoms and abortions in one stop. If it is a true hardship they can write to the manufacturer and see if they have a low cost or free program too.

The fact is this…. We can’t pay for everything, nor should we be forced to pay for everything.There is some burden that personal responsibility has to kick in and let the individual make those really hard choices like… Starbucks $6.00 cup of coffee a day or more or Birth control pill at $5.00 to 12.00 a month…..Hum? Birth control IS a personal decision just like going to and paying for college, buying a car, taking a vacation, getting your next best I-Phone or I-pad etc…

Really…. THIS has become tiresome. Are my fellow woman going to make THIS the main topic of life altering decisions… wait till they find out that in places like Greece they can’t even get aspirin because of austerity measures. Do they have a clue that in America there are shortages of many life saving drugs….. not associated to menstrual cycles. Not agreeing with Rush or defending his comments but my thought is she made herself a target!

ActinUpinTexas on March 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM

In my state, men don’t call young ladies names.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM

In my state, men called that getting lucky. Although it usually cost us some beers and some food. It wasn’t given away that cheaply.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

You have apparently mistaken me for a four-times married, morbidly obese junkie, better known as the leader of the Republican Party. I won’t be able to blog much longer. Rush’s show is coming on soon and I want to hear him lecture on traditional family values.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Oh, sport. You really have proven that women who get up in public and beg for $3,000 to have sex, really aren’t whores.

Make that be a lesson to you children out there, when someday an elected leftist asks you to be their pawn.

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Akzed on March 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Tina –
Congrats on all the recent success at Hot Air etc.. I think you’ll have a show at Fox in the not too distant future (I don’t mean that as snark).
But please maybe think harder about what you trigger in folks by just just auto-defending or trying to ‘contextualize’ cr*p like this from Limbaugh. You just end up legitimatizing some real bad stuff.
You want ‘Akzed’ as a pal…you want him/her to like you?
It’s just worth it.
You can do/be better – and still talk about issues you care about and have strong feelings about.
You can question Feminism or challenge someone like Sandra Fluke without serving red meat like this to folks. Maybe even go so far as to call Rush out – firmly.
Good luck to you.

verbaluce on March 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM

whore (hôr, hr)

n.

1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.

intr.v. whored, whor·ing, whores

1. To associate or have sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations.
3. To compromise one’s principles for personal gain.

Just copy/pastin’

MNHawk on March 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Fluke is complaining that she has to take responsibility for having sex and that’s not right says she. The rest of us have to take it. Bah-there are several kinds of slut and this gal is at least two of them.

jeanie on March 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Oh, sport. You really have proven that women who get up in public and beg for $3,000 to have sex, really aren’t whores.

Make that be a lesson to you children out there, when someday an elected leftist asks you to be their pawn.

I think what I’ve shown is that you will vigorously defend a middle aged man’s attack on a young woman’s moral character, despite the fact that that middle-aged man is himself a cesspool of self-indulgent moral failings- – including gluttony, drug addiction, and multiple divorce.

plewis on March 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM

verbaluce on March 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I’ve got some preparation h for that butthurt if you need it. Pu$$y.

gryphon202 on March 2, 2012 at 12:03 PM

In many cases women need birth control- to address PMS irregularities, endometriosis, other serious conditions- as part of routine healthcare. This is why the AMA and other medical groups strongly oppose these types of restrictions on their ability to care for their patients.

bayam on March 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

What types of restrictions? Forcing people to pay for stuff they want?

I’ve got a cavity. If my employer won’t pay to have it filled, have I lost the ability to fix it? Of course not. Not getting something handed to you is not the same as being unable to get something.

hawksruleva on March 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

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