Rush: If we’re gonna pay for birth control, we want something in return

posted at 6:35 pm on March 1, 2012 by Tina Korbe

When Rush Limbaugh called Georgetown law student and so-called contraception activist Sandra Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute,” he immediately took heat for it. What’d the legendary radio host do in response? He didn’t back down, that’s for sure.

Today, Rush sought to clarify his comments, but stood by his fundamental premise: Women who take money for sex are prostitutes, so women who take money for contraception for sex aren’t far behind.

He even went one step further, suggesting that the hard-working Americans who will have to pay higher insurance premiums to finance law students’ sex lives should be able to verify that their dollars-for-contraception are put to good use:

“If we’re going to have to pay for this — then we want something in return, Ms. Fluke,” Limbaugh said. “And that would be the videos of all this sex posted online so we can see what we’re getting for our money.”

Limbaugh attempted to clarify his comments and explain the rationale for his derisive labeling of Fluke.

“Now what did I say?” Limbaugh asked. “I said if we’re paying for this, it makes these women sluts, prostitutes. What else could it be? We are buying it.”

Rush’s comments are intentionally provocative, but they also underscore the point that women and men who aren’t sexually active rarely have a need for contraception. Others have made the point he’s making — that if we’re gonna pay for birth control, we want something in return — in a less over-the-top way by pointing out that, if we’re going to pay for our neighbor’s birth control, then we should have a say in our neighbor’s sex life. How does that newly-coined saying go? “If you don’t want Uncle Sam in your bedroom, don’t ask Uncle Sam to pay for what goes down in your bedroom.”

Again, contraception is not a necessity and fertility is not a disease. As plenty of folks have pointed out, contraception is, in fact, impossible to “insure,” as it’s impossible to “insure” against an expense that a person knows for a fact he or she will incur. In that case, it’s just an expense — and the person who’s gonna incur it should budget for it.


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Rush has a security scanner at his house? that’s kind of funny.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM

cane_loader on March 1, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Since you’ve been ‘there’: are these TSA dillbags armed..?

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Rush has a security scanner at his house? that’s kind of funny.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM

That’s funny to you?

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

I’m sorry but Rush went over the line with this crusade.Regardless of the fact that I agree taxpayers should’nt pay for contraception, It was crude and ugly and made him sound like a freak zealot. I was very disappointed in him. He could have handled it better, and I think it reflected badly on the GOP.

BettyRuth on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Do only promiscuous women take birth control?

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

“Why would any adult, working woman want her employer involved in the purchase of her birth control?
mbs on March 1, 2012 at 9:36 PM”

Because a doctors prescribed medication, no matter if it’s depression medication, Viagra, STD medication, Dermatologist creams, baldness prevention or Birth Control, is all insanely expensive without an insurance copay.

The employer isn’t directly involved. There is a patient doctor privilege of privacy.

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:41 PM

BettyRuth on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

OH NO!!!!! Reflect badly on the GOP???????? Exactly what position does Rush hold in the grand old party?

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:41 PM

I used to almost be able to see the “wink wink”, when Rush was going on about something, but he just sounds mean and nasty, now, IMO. And I have listened to him for almost 18 years, and I listen every day (though maybe not for much longer). He has changed and not for the better, in my eyes.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 8:35 PM

You haven’t listened to him for 18 years. Stop lying. You would have never gotten through the feminazi days if you’re this overly sensitive. Rush is much more laid back now.

jan3 on March 1, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Perhaps the Limbaughs just pay for their own birth control.

Quite a concept, isn’t it?

AZCoyote on March 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Are people still allowed to do that?! I thought Obama decreed something about birth control.

WhatNot on March 1, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Do only promiscuous women take birth control?

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Lots of women use birth-control.

Only a certain kind want others to pay for it.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:43 PM

I used to almost be able to see the “wink wink”, when Rush was going on about something, but he just sounds mean and nasty, now, IMO. And I have listened to him for almost 18 years, and I listen every day (though maybe not for much longer). He has changed and not for the better, in my eyes.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 8:35 PM

You haven’t listened to him for 18 years. Stop lying. You would have never gotten through the feminazi days if you’re this overly sensitive. Rush is much more laid back now.

jan3 on March 1, 2012 at 9:42 PM

~~~~~~~~

No, he’s not more laid-back, now, he’s crude and obnoxious. He doesn’t even sound like he’s having fun anymore, which he definitely was during the feminazi days. And yes, I have been a faithful listener for 18 years…

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Being a faithful listener of someone you find crude and obnoxious for eighteen years says more about you than Rush.

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Do only promiscuous women take birth control?

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Lots of women use birth-control.

Only a certain kind want others to pay for it.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Beat me too it. Besides if the women was in a functional monoagamous relationship then her boyfriend could help her spring for the 20 dollars a month for birthcontrol. Or better yet, he could buy the condoms!

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Lots of women use birth-control. Only a certain kind want others to pay for it.
TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Absurd. Of all the trivial things insurance providers pay for, birth control is one of the least trivial.

And uh… hate to break it to you, but no sex work providers are involving their John’s in supplying the preventative measures they’re taking to avoid pregnancy.

What’s next? Denying women thyroid medications?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Cindy- what I meant was that Rush gets SO much media attention, and every word he says is repeated ad nauseum by them. Even during today’s show Rush played bits from the floor ripping him on this- and regardless of him simply being an “entertainer”, whatever he says is immediately attributed to Republicans- as if we all get together and O.K. The information. The media portrays him as our party head, and I thought he was over the top today. He could have made his point just as strongly without going in the gutter. He spent almost his entire show on it,

BettyRuth on March 1, 2012 at 9:51 PM

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Being a faithful listener of someone you find crude and obnoxious for eighteen years says more about you than Rush.

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:46 PM

~~~~~~~

Cindy, as I’ve said in my post, I see Rush CHANGING. He was not a crude and obnoxious jerk for 18 years, but the past couple of years, he has gotten bitter and humorless. I haven’t wanted to give up on him, but it’s getting close to the point for me.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Beat me too it. Besides if the women was in a functional monoagamous relationship then her boyfriend could help her spring for the 20 dollars a month for birthcontrol. Or better yet, he could buy the condoms!

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Gosh. Would you stop berating all the guys. What is it with all you feminists??? \s

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

~~~~~~~
Cindy, as I’ve said in my post, I see Rush CHANGING. He was not a crude and obnoxious jerk
for 18 years, but the past couple of years, he has gotten bitter and humorless. I haven’t wanted
to give up on him, but it’s getting close to the point for me.
ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I guess you don’t remember caller abortions.

tom daschle concerned on March 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Absurd. Of all the trivial things insurance providers pay for, birth control is one of the least trivial.

And uh… hate to break it to you, but no sex work providers are involving their John’s in supplying the preventative measures they’re taking to avoid pregnancy.

What’s next? Denying women thyroid medications?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Now that was assinine. Someone paying no taxes on their “services” deserves taxpayer funded preventatives????

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM

He’s just going to alienate women in the mushy middle like myself by sounding like a perv.

magicbeans on March 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM

He sounds like a perv when Fluke is voluntarily testifying in front of Congressmen and the entire world by now, about details of her sex life? Give me a break. Why the hell does she think her sex life is worthy of anyone’s interest but her own? She is an exhibitionist. At least in the movies and on TV and in porn the actors aren’t displaying their own sex lives. Hey maybe she and Anthony Weiner ought to exchange twitter addresses.

txmomof6 on March 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM

What’s next? Denying women thyroid medications?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Nobody is denying women birth control.. We are saying that they have to pay for it out of their own pocket.

A thyroid is necessary to live, sex not so much

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 9:55 PM

It’s an interesting point – Fluke wants us to pay for her lifestyle choices, but the fact is once Obamacare is in full effect we will all be paying for all sorts of lifestyle choices.

A great deal of the diseases we are treating are caused by lifestyle and if people would modify their lifestyle the can get off meds and avoid costly procedures/tests/surgeries.

Obamacare, like most liberal plans will discourage personal responsibility in healthy choices, it will in fact make us a more obese and sickly country.

batterup on March 1, 2012 at 9:55 PM

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Sometimes I can’t tell whether liberals are truly thick-headed, or just pretending.

“Insurance companies” don’t give anything for free. We pay it, and we shouldn’t have to pay for these Georgetown co-eds to be having sex.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Because a doctors prescribed medication, no matter if it’s depression medication, Viagra, STD medication, Dermatologist creams, baldness prevention or Birth Control, is all insanely expensive without an insurance copay.

The employer isn’t directly involved. There is a patient doctor privilege of privacy.

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:41 PM

You are wrong. Birth control pills are ridiculously cheap. $9 per month at Target. Condoms are even cheaper. And yes, in self-insured companies, the employer is directly involved. And with insurance policies, the employer is still paying for it.

mbs on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Cindy, as I’ve said in my post, I see Rush CHANGING. He was not a crude and obnoxious jerk for 18 years, but the past couple of years, he has gotten bitter and humorless. I haven’t wanted to give up on him, but it’s getting close to the point for me.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Not a crude or obnoxious jerk? Really? You must not have been listening to him in the 1990′s when he did “caller abortions.” You must not have paid attention when he published his “undeniable truths of life” which included the assertion that feminism was expressly founded to give unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society. The outrage has always been there. Apparently you’ve been oblivious to it, but it’s been there.

gryphon202 on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Obama says that women should be provided birth control regardless of the financial ability to pay, how many years before he starts accusing these same women of stealing from the poor? Why in the world should the government mandate that a company provide a product or service for “free”? Shouldn’t that be between them and the company they are contracting with?

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Sometimes I can’t tell whether liberals are truly thick-headed, or just pretending

No, it is even more scarier. They are true believers. The think something is considered “a right” that it must be paid for by someone else. No individual responisbility only what is good for the collective.

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

I think Rush is onto something here…

… but the thought of seeing a sex tape of Debbie Wasserperson Whatever makes my genitals want to run screaming into the night!

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM

One problem with this whole situation that’s not getting nearly enough play (if you ask me) is the default position everyone — or at least among the left — has that men just don’t exist in these situations.

Men don’t exist to help pay for the birth control; men don’t exist to father the children; men don’t exist to aid in affording things like a house or a car or a life.

Now, granted, I haven’t spent a lot of time prying into my friends’ sex lives, but what little information I do have indicates that men paying for condoms has been standard practice. If you ask me, this is just one more way for government to replace men with the state. There’s a lot of power in that, after all.

TouchingTophet on March 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Sometimes I can’t tell whether liberals are truly thick-headed, or just pretending.

“Insurance companies” don’t give anything for free. We pay it, and we shouldn’t have to pay for these Georgetown co-eds to be having sex.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Right the first time.

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I’m sure Rush appreciates you not giving up on him……have you corresponded with him to let him know how you feel?

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Absurd. Of all the trivial things insurance providers pay for, birth control is one of the least trivial.

And uh… hate to break it to you, but no sex work providers are involving their John’s in supplying the preventative measures they’re taking to avoid pregnancy.

What’s next? Denying women thyroid medications?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

And what happened to “all costs get passed on the the consumer.”??

Oh. I am sooo sorry.

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 10:00 PM

If you ask me, this is just one more way for government to replace men with the state. There’s a lot of power in that, after all.

TouchingTophet on March 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Spot on!

melle1228 on March 1, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Since you’ve been ‘there’: are these TSA dillbags armed..?

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 9:38 PM

The ones I saw weren’t, but they were backed by armed men who seemed to be armed federal marshals or something. I didn’t a good read on exactly their affiliation.

cane_loader on March 1, 2012 at 10:01 PM

~~~~~~~
Cindy, as I’ve said in my post, I see Rush CHANGING. He was not a crude and obnoxious jerk
for 18 years, but the past couple of years, he has gotten bitter and humorless. I haven’t wanted
to give up on him, but it’s getting close to the point for me.
ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I guess you don’t remember caller abortions.

tom daschle concerned on March 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM

~~~~~~~~~

I certainly do…never bothered me, because there was a playfulness about him back then…I also loved when he’d play the song with the NOW woman in the background screaming about being in your face. Rush has gotten ugly and bitter, and I hope the old Rush returns…if you disagree, that’s fine with me. I’m just voicing my opinion, and I feel strongly that this stuff doesn’t help…the contraception issue is a strong one, but now it’s going to be all about prostitutes and sex tapes.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 10:02 PM

I certainly do…never bothered me, because there was a playfulness about him back then…I also loved when he’d play the song with the NOW woman in the background screaming about being in your face. Rush has gotten ugly and bitter, and I hope the old Rush returns…if you disagree, that’s fine with me. I’m just voicing my opinion, and I feel strongly that this stuff doesn’t help…the contraception issue is a strong one, but now it’s going to be all about prostitutes and sex tapes.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Funny. Me thinks the libs have gotten uglier too.

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Because a doctors prescribed medication, no matter if it’s depression medication, Viagra, STD medication, Dermatologist creams, baldness prevention or Birth Control, is all insanely expensive without an insurance copay.

contrarytopopularbelief

Ummmmm….no. Birth control pills can be purchased at Walmart for $9(maybe less)a month. Hundreds of other prescription meds can be purchased there for $4 a month. And plenty of other pharmacys offer similar pricing.

xblade on March 1, 2012 at 10:06 PM

And another thing, birth control is a woman’s viagra.

What a lie. A decreased sex drive is one of the well known side effects of almost all birth control pills, which really makes you wonder even more whose side these libtards are on–they really think that a pill that decreases a woman’s desire for sex, yet enables her to have it without the consequence of a baby is all about WOMEN’s rights? What exactly do women get out of birth control? The ability to be boned more, but enjoy it less? Sounds like MEN get more out of it than women.

Studies have also shown that the artificial hormones in birth control change what kinds of men women are attracted to–i.e. she may have been attracted to you before she went on the pill, but after she’s pumped full of chemicals you just might not be her type any more. Oh what a wonder pill!

Oral contraceptives are about the worst “solution” to unplanned pregnancy ever–the woman pays for it, the woman ingests hormones that fool her body into thinking she’s pregnant (oh what joy that is, please do not deny me my right to experience the physical side effects of pregnancy only WITHOUT that pesky baby!), they make you nauseous sometimes to the point of vomiting, if you skip one single day you start to bleed the next day and have to use backup contraception the rest of your cycle, it can decrease your natural lubrication (HUGE downside, might as well wrap your penis in sandpaper and no, KY is not a satisfactory substitute), it often causes weight gain…really, this is what these people are fighting for? The solution to unwanted pregnancy is to only have sex with men whose children you are willing to bear–end of story.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste

Polynath on March 1, 2012 at 10:07 PM

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I’m sure Rush appreciates you not giving up on him……have you corresponded with him to let him know how you feel?

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 9:59 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wow…you really seem to be taking my opinion of Rush personally. I’m sure Rush wouldn’t be bothered too much by what I think, or would he care to correspond with me, if I had the inclination to try. Sorry my feelings on how he has conducted himself lately seems to bug you.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

You’re mistaking pregnancy, and controlling an ovulation cycle with a “service”.

I’m sad so many here confuse intercourse with a transaction, but it’s no shock that those who do, default to thinking of sex as a trade.

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Oh. My mistake. What’s a “John”?

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Now that was assinine. Someone paying no taxes on their “services” deserves taxpayer funded preventatives????
WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 9:54 PM

You’re mistaking pregnancy, and controlling an ovulation cycle with a “service”.

I’m sad so many here confuse intercourse with a transaction, but it’s no shock that those who do, default to thinking of sex as a trade.

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

wow. how’d that happen?

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM

What does make her a whore is that she’s expecting to have her expenses paid for getting laid — in a sense, being paid for it…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 9:35 PM

ummm… no. That’s a rotten analogy. I’m not a prude. I’m not particularly bothered by the fact that he called her a slut. It’s much more bothersome to me that he went for the cheap shot and entertainment value, rather than giving her (and Nancy) the take-down that she richly deserved.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM

cane_loader on March 1, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Yep. Goons in the airports, now goons on the highways. The excuse the proggies used in the airports was “flying is a privilege, blah-blah”. Now the highways too. Next the sidewalk outside your home. Using the sidewalk is a privilege!

The TSA Is Coming To A Highway Near You

slickwillie2001 on March 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM

If these women want to have sex 20 times a day go for it.Just don,t ask me to pay for your pills.PS when i was in school we had a name for women like this and it sure was not a nice lady.Here a novel idea .Tell all the men you have a relation with to pony up money for the pills or at least buy a condom .

logman1 on March 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

You are wrong. Birth control pills are ridiculously cheap. $9 per month at Target. Condoms are even cheaper. And yes, in self-insured companies, the employer is directly involved. And with insurance policies, the employer is still paying for it.

mbs on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Let me teach you about the world.
1) Target’s birth control is subsidized. It’s not market rate.
2) Condoms do not have the same reliability or other hormonal benefits as the pill.
3) Your employed doesn’t have a clue if you’re on the pill or erectile dysfunction medicine.

Speaking of which….what’s up with fixating on one and not the other?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

The same ones who want us to pay for their sexual choices also celebrate killing the offspring of these “choices” as a precious right.

What a perverted doctrine they cherish.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Let me teach you about the world.
1) Target’s birth control is subsidized. It’s not market rate.
2) Condoms do not have the same reliability or other hormonal benefits as the pill.
3) Your employed doesn’t have a clue if you’re on the pill or erectile dysfunction medicine.

Speaking of which….what’s up with fixating on one and not the other?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

1) Don’t know. But if it is subsidized, why all the fuss.

2) benefits…like pulmonary emboli, strokes, and breast cancer? Nice

3) who cares. won’t change anyway.

be real

WryTrvllr on March 1, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Not a crude or obnoxious jerk? Really? You must not have been listening to him in the 1990′s when he did “caller abortions.” You must not have paid attention when he published his “undeniable truths of life” which included the assertion that feminism was expressly founded to give unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society. The outrage has always been there. Apparently you’ve been oblivious to it, but it’s been there.

gryphon202 on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

No, he was funny and entertaining then. I agree with those who say that he sounds bitter and mean nowadays.

The “seething liberal” voice he does sounds more and more like “seething Rush”.

DaveS on March 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Just teasing, your views are, I am sure, shared by many.

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Let me teach you about the world.
1) Target’s birth control is subsidized. It’s not market rate.
2) Condoms do not have the same reliability or other hormonal benefits as the pill.
3) Your employed doesn’t have a clue if you’re on the pill or erectile dysfunction medicine.

Speaking of which….what’s up with fixating on one and not the other?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Subsidized by whom?

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Not a crude or obnoxious jerk? Really? You must not have been listening to him in the 1990′s when he did “caller abortions.” You must not have paid attention when he published his “undeniable truths of life” which included the assertion that feminism was expressly founded to give unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society. The outrage has always been there. Apparently you’ve been oblivious to it, but it’s been there.

gryphon202 on March 1, 2012 at 9:57 PM

So, you’ve always been outrageously outraged?

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:28 PM

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Sorry: I’m sticking by it…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Sorry: I’m sticking by it…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:28 PM

As you wish. Nevertheless, objectively speaking, it isn’t a good analogy.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Perhaps the Limbaughs just pay for their own birth control.

Quite a concept, isn’t it?

AZCoyote on March 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I think just seeing Rush naked would be birth control enough.

I know I’m late, but, kind of a new low for Rush, no? His housekeeper not scoring him the right meds any more?

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:30 PM

cane_loader on March 1, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Thanks for the info, man…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Listen to them.

They try to destroy people like Palin, Rush and Andrew Breitbart.

Now they’re concerned because of our lack of cheer as we take on evil.

What a sad, pathetic, lot. And I mean that with pure joy.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Wow…you really seem to be taking my opinion of Rush personally. I’m sure Rush wouldn’t be bothered too much by what I think, or would he care to correspond with me, if I had the inclination to try. Sorry my feelings on how he has conducted himself lately seems to bug you.

ellifint on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Yeah, I thought her comments to you were kind of odd- Rush is quite the conservative icon, but he has gone over the edge on this contraception thing- like I said, he’s not wrong in theory, but he’s let his, I don’t know, hatred? bitterness? judgeyness? get the better of him on this. I think he’s actually enormously pissed that Newt and Santorum have let him down- or that not all conservatives are buying what they’re selling. I don’t know-

BettyRuth on March 1, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Listen to them.

They try to destroy people like Palin, Rush and Andrew Breitbart.

Now they’re concerned because of our lack of cheer as we take on evil.

What a sad, pathetic, lot. And I mean that with pure joy.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Soo, Rush can’t be criticized for the manner in which he makes his public commentary? He’s always right?

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Soo, Rush can’t be criticized for the manner in which he makes his public commentary? He’s always right?

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Are you kidding me? He’s been criticized and maligned as much as any living American. He’s still standing too. God bless him and others willing to take the arrows.

Men and women like Limbaugh, Palin and Breitbart are far too few. The country could use thousands more with steel like that.

Right all the time? Nope, check the audit.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Please explain how style and correctness are correlated. And do NOT say it’s a bad analogy… ;-)

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Please explain how style and correctness are correlated. And do NOT say it’s a bad analogy… ;-)

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I don’t understand your question.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM

3) Your employed doesn’t have a clue if you’re on the pill or erectile dysfunction medicine.

Speaking of which….what’s up with fixating on one and not the other?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I got news for you. If your insurance pays a bill they damn sure know what it’s for. Your EOB lists it. I’ve been called several times by contracted employer health services asking about certain medical procedures I’ve had. The doctor did not relay the information to them but they had access through the insurance records. If you think your medical records are sacred you’re sadly mistaken.

Oldnuke on March 1, 2012 at 10:48 PM

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I’m not going to interpret your post for you. I quoted it: track back. It’s a PITA doing this on an iPhone…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Absurd. Of all the trivial things insurance providers pay for, birth control is one of the least trivial.

And uh… hate to break it to you, but no sex work providers are involving their John’s in supplying the preventative measures they’re taking to avoid pregnancy.

What’s next? Denying women thyroid medications?

contrarytopopularbelief on March 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Welllll, here’s a full case of stupid.

1. Finally, a leftist who admits that they believe pregnancy is a disease. Only whack jobs like a leftwad would believe this.

2. Ok, so since you disagree with Sandra Fluke being a prostitute perhaps we should call her pimp, Obama and ask about her status as House Madam especially because she asked for contraceptives for all of her “girls”.

3. A definition for your edification and enjoyment:

(prŏs’tĭ-tū’shən, -tyū’-)
n.
The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
The act or an instance of offering or devoting one’s talent to an unworthy use or cause.

Considering it’s Georgetown law, this sounds accurate.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Are you kidding me? He’s been criticized and maligned as much as any living American. He’s still standing too. God bless him and others willing to take the arrows.

Men and women like Limbaugh, Palin and Breitbart are far too few. The country could use thousands more with steel like that.

Right all the time? Nope, check the audit.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM

It must suck to take arrows for the tiny fee of millions of dollars a year. Coal miners and firefighters are brave professionals who deal with real risk. Limbaugh and Palin are shills from a long tradition of demagogues. Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was, was the only emotionally (if in ho other way) hoinest one of the three.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Are you kidding me? He’s been criticized and maligned as much as any living American. He’s still standing too. God bless him and others willing to take the arrows.

Men and women like Limbaugh, Palin and Breitbart are far too few. The country could use thousands more with steel like that.

Right all the time? Nope, check the audit.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 10:40 P

I’m not maligning him. I’m simply pointing out that in this particular case, his commentary is a little off the mark (even though he is fundamentally on the right side of the issue). I think that it is okay to be offensive in your commentary, but only if the underlying point is correct. This particular instance just feels like Rush is trying to piss people off, just for the sake of pissing off people.

For example, I thought that his remarks about feminism are shocking but appropriate, because his point is correct if somewhat exaggerated. On the other hand, calling Fluke a whore, and saying that she wants to be paid for sleeping around is over the top. Fluke doesn’t want to be paid for sleeping with people. She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

It must suck to take arrows for the tiny fee of millions of dollars a year. Coal miners and firefighters are brave professionals who deal with real risk. Limbaugh and Palin are shills from a long tradition of demagogues. Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was, was the only emotionally (if in ho other way) hoinest one of the three.

What the heck does “emotionally honest” mean (to say nothing of “emotionally hoinest”)?

TouchingTophet on March 1, 2012 at 10:58 PM

t must suck to take arrows for the tiny fee of millions of dollars a year. Coal miners and firefighters are brave professionals who deal with real risk. Limbaugh and Palin are shills from a long tradition of demagogues. Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was, was the only emotionally (if in ho other way) hoinest one of the three.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

It must be tough for you to be so morally superior to the rest of us.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:59 PM

For example, I thought that his remarks about feminism are shocking but appropriate, because his point is correct if somewhat exaggerated. On the other hand, calling Fluke a whore, and saying that she wants to be paid for sleeping around is over the top. Fluke doesn’t want to be paid for sleeping with people. She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.
ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Otherwise stated, she wants the expense covered…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

I think just seeing Rush naked would be birth control enough.

I know I’m late, but, kind of a new low for Rush, no? His housekeeper not scoring him the right meds any more?

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Does Rush Limbaugh know you have these OCD “feelings” for him ? OCD people often have thoughts of the unattainable for themselves.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Coal miners and firefighters are brave professionals who deal with real risk.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

How many coal miners do you know?

Oldnuke on March 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Wow, how did you know I was talking about you?

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Otherwise stated, she wants the expense covered…

affenhauer on March 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Oy. That isn’t the same thing as being paid, or wanting to be paid for the act. She wants consequence-free sex. Like I said earlier, this makes her a spooled brat, not a prostitute. (Although if she has as much sex as she claims, then she is a slut:)

Now, that I think about it: Rush saying that he wants some kind of evidence/corroboration that she really as much sex as she claims is a really good, wholly appropriate (and shocking) way of making his point: It stands to reason that she should submit her “receipts” considering that she wants to be reimbursed for her expenses. But the prostitute thing is inappropriate.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Fluke doesn’t want to be paid for sleeping with people. She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

She’s a Georgetown co-ed that wants us to pay for her sex.

A spade is a spade.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 11:10 PM

She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.
ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Ok, so what you’re saying is that Sandra Fluke wants permission to be a whore (prostitute) and prostitute herself? I say this because by definition a whore is:

(prŏs’tĭ-tū’shən, -tyū’-)
n.
The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
The act or an instance of offering or devoting one’s talent to an unworthy use or cause.

She at least fits the second part of the definition. Still, if she has to ask the government for “protection”, it makes one wonder what kind of men she’s dating.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Fluke doesn’t want to be paid for sleeping with people. She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

She’s a Georgetown co-ed that wants us to pay for her sex.

A spade is a spade.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 11:10 PM

I agree.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM

She wants free birth control. These aren’t the same thing, and no amount of spin can make them the same thing.
ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Hey GW ,always like your writing . buuut…

Either way we are paying for her to have sex. She’s not buying the pills for decorations.

Rush also called her a sl*t because she(or her friend) claimed she was going bankrupt from all her sex. A guy would be a sl*t too. And anyone who has a lot of sex and asks for money to do it is a sl… sorry, that’s the way we’ve seen it for um… a few thousand years.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM

She wants free birth control.

it’s not free. We are paying.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Ok, so what you’re saying is that Sandra Fluke wants permission to be a whore (prostitute) and prostitute herself? I say this because by definition a whore is:

(prŏs’tĭ-tū’shən, -tyū’-)
n.
The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
The act or an instance of offering or devoting one’s talent to an unworthy use or cause.

She at least fits the second part of the definition. Still, if she has to ask the government for “protection”, it makes one wonder what kind of men she’s dating.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Please. The second part of the definition is not why Rush called her a prostitute. And the first part of the definition doesn’t apply.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Coal miners and firefighters are brave professionals who deal with real risk.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

You wouldn’t know a coal miner from a long wall. Fireman are notorious arsonists. They create risks for others, not themselves.

On the other hand, the police must be chopped liver in your book.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM

it’s not free. We are paying.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I know. She’s childish for not understanding or caring about that.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Fireman are notorious arsonists

Please tell me that you’re joking.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Please. The second part of the definition is not why Rush called her a prostitute. And the first part of the definition doesn’t apply.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

This sort of tacit denial is actually agreement by you. Of course she’s a prostitute. She’s asking to be compensated by way of free contraceptives paid for by a third party to have sex. What’s the matter , do her boyfriends think so little of her and her friends that they can’t come up with the pocket change for “rain gear?”

Contraceptives cost as little as $ 9.00 bucks a month, and that’s if she has sex two times a day. She must be a little minx if she needs 3k over the course of a law school career. Do the math.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Please tell me that you’re joking.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Check the stats on it for yourself, Junior.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Hey GW ,always like your writing . buuut…

Either way we are paying for her to have sex. She’s not buying the pills for decorations.

Rush also called her a sl*t because she(or her friend) claimed she was going bankrupt from all her sex. A guy would be a sl*t too. And anyone who has a lot of sex and asks for money to do it is a sl… sorry, that’s the way we’ve seen it for um… a few thousand years.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I think that Rush could have made his point much more smartly by inquiring whether the government should now be required to subsidize her drinking, and other forms of recreation and entertainment. That’s really what she wants: Taxpayer-funded parties with no responsibility. Maybe the government also could arrange to have someone take her exams for her as well. Just follow the libs’ reasoning to its ridiculous conclusion.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I know. She’s childish for not understanding or caring about that.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Ok I get you. She might not be slut. She made it her business to be the face of this latst slutstification of the economy that Obama is overseeing.

Clint Eastwood was a bad horseman but we all knew him first as a cowboy.

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

This sort of tacit denial is actually agreement by you. Of course she’s a prostitute. She’s asking to be compensated by way of free contraceptives paid for by a third party to have sex. What’s the matter , do her boyfriends think so little of her and her friends that they can’t come up with the pocket change for “rain gear?”

Contraceptives cost as little as $ 9.00 bucks a month, and that’s if she has sex two times a day. She must be a little minx if she needs 3k over the course of a law school career. Do the math.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Is it opposite day? You presented the definition of the term, and she doesn’t fit the definition. Words have meaning. Twisting their meanings just to make some convoluted point hardly seems productive.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

You wouldn’t know a coal miner from a long wall. Fireman are notorious arsonists. They create risks for others, not themselves.

On the other hand, the police must be chopped liver in your book.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I actually had lunch with a good friend who’s a cop the other day.

My point was that calling Palin or Limbaugh “brave” for spouting nonsense at a thousand dollars an hour is absurd compared to people who actually risk something and earn a whol lot less.

Troops in Afghanistan are brave. Limbaugh is a bully.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Check the stats on it for yourself, Junior.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I’ll be happy to do so, if you’ll point the way. But I’m not going to wear myself out trying to corroborate a point that you tired to make.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Please. The second part of the definition is not why Rush called her a prostitute. And the first part of the definition doesn’t apply.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Of course it applies. She’s asking to be compensated for an unworthy cause and she wants taxpayers to pay for it.

Rush doesn’t get to determine the definition of a prostitute. He does get to fit the action within the context. And she fits the first and second in anyone’s book, especially since in the second instance, she’s a liberal. Surely, you’re not saying that a liberal cause ( in this case prostitution practiced by Georgetown law schools students) is worthy? Are you ?

I tend to think Rush would agree.

“Now what did I say?” Limbaugh asked. “I said if we’re paying for this, it makes these women sluts, prostitutes. What else could it be? We are buying it.”

Nothing like confirmation from Rush’s own unambiguous statement,is there ?

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 7:37 PM

eh, for someone that replied to so many of my posts, I find this comment surprising.

nathor on March 1, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Like Jane Goodall studying the language of primates.

I just don’t understand your comments.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Breitbart, loathsome scumbag that he was

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 10:53 PM

We know what you are and why you’re here.

TitularHead on March 1, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Troops in Afghanistan are brave. Limbaugh is a bully.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Troops in Afghanistan I knew liked Rush Limbaugh. Not everyone can serve. Seems like everyone wants to speak for them though. You don’t.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Of course it applies. She’s asking to be compensated for an unworthy cause and she wants taxpayers to pay for it.

Rush doesn’t get to determine the definition of a prostitute. He does get to fit the action within the context. And she fits the first and second in anyone’s book, especially since in the second instance, she’s a liberal. Surely, you’re not saying that a liberal cause ( in this case prostitution practiced by Georgetown law schools students) is worthy? Are you ?

I tend to think Rush would agree.

“Now what did I say?” Limbaugh asked. “I said if we’re paying for this, it makes these women sluts, prostitutes. What else could it be? We are buying it.”

Nothing like confirmation from Rush’s own unambiguous statement,is there ?

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

You can keep repeating yourself if you like, but repetition won’t make your point any more correct or valid.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Troops in Afghanistan I knew liked Rush Limbaugh. Not everyone can serve. Seems like everyone wants to speak for them though. You don’t.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I’m making no judgment on that, and don’t pretend to speak for the troops. I’m suggesting that the concept of Rush as some sort of courageous voice in the wilderness is nauseating, compared to people who actually risk something, and who do so at much lower wages.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I actually had lunch with a good friend who’s a cop the other day.

My point was that calling Palin or Limbaugh “brave” for spouting nonsense at a thousand dollars an hour is absurd compared to people who actually risk something and earn a whol lot less.

Troops in Afghanistan are brave. Limbaugh is a bully.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

You just trashed a man that died not 24 hours ago. You’re hardly in a position to lecture us on bravery. If you want to take on supercilious airs, you probably shouldn’t waste your cred taking cheap shots.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM

I actually had lunch with a good friend who’s a cop the other day.

My point was that calling Palin or Limbaugh “brave” for spouting nonsense at a thousand dollars an hour is absurd compared to people who actually risk something and earn a whol lot less.

Troops in Afghanistan are brave. Limbaugh is a bully.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Funny you didn’t mention that luncheon date originally. But, I digress. So let’s see if I have this straight. You are comparing Rush and Sarah professions/speaking engagements to cops and troops in Afghanistan?

On Earth, this is what’s known as a non sequitur. You must hail from the Planet Uranus because your comparison is absurd. Anyone with any amount of sense KNOWS this.

But of course in your case, we must consider the source.

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM

I think that Rush could have made his point much more smartly by inquiring whether the government should now be required to subsidize her drinking, and other forms of recreation and entertainment. ..ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I think your message should be what Romney, Santorum and Gingrich need to push now. Rush is doing what he does best. He’s getting the issue out there. The 3 wise men and their party are struggling to even find your simple message. That’s because phrasing it your way hasn’t been polled.

But i assure everyone on this board that the vast majority of Americans do not ,in heart and personal experience
, believe that most drug store contraception is healthcare. They just don’t want it banned. In my neck of America contraception is more like a 12pack then a child’s nyquil.

Sorry about the grammar. I just learned to write recently so…/

off to sleep

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM

DevilsPrinciple on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM

I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I was reacting to the opinion expressed by some that Rush and Sarah are somehow courageous and suggesting that this was — compared to people who actually do risk something on a regular basis — laughable.

You just trashed a man that died not 24 hours ago. You’re hardly in a position to lecture us on bravery. If you want to take on supercilious airs, you probably shouldn’t waste your cred taking cheap shots.

ghostwriter on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM

I was going to be polite, until I read the Breitbart tweets on Ted Kennedy’s death. I’m sure he’d want me to adopt the same level of solemnity and respect he himself embraced.

urban elitist on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM

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