Rasmussen national poll puts Romney up 16 over Santorum

posted at 11:35 am on March 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Two weeks ago, Rick Santorum rode a three-state sweep to a 12-point lead in Rasmussen’s last national survey of likely Republican-primary voters.  Two days after Mitt Romney won a two-state sweep, Rasmussen’s latest poll shows him with a 16-point lead over Santorum and a lot of momentum:

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, coming off his primary wins in Arizona and Michigan, has jumped to a 16-point lead over Rick Santorum in the battle for the Republican presidential nomination.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters shows Romney with 40% support to 24% for the former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania. This is Romney’s biggest lead to date and the highest level of support any GOP candidate has earned in regular surveying of the race. Two weeks ago, it was Santorum 39%, Romney 27%.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich earns 16% support, closely followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul at 12%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided. The new findings mark virtually no change in national support for Gingrich and Paul.

The internals are just about what one would expect.  There is, interestingly, no real gender gap; the 16-point margin occurs among men and women alike.  Santorum wins among “very conservative” voters, but only barely outside the margin of error now at six points (39/33).  Romney has a 15-point lead among Republicans, and an 18-point lead among independents. Romney now edges Santorum by four among Tea Party voters (34/30) and by 25 among non-supporters of the Tea Party.  Although Santorum still has a double-digit lead among evangelicals (38/28), Romney wins Protestants by 19 points and Catholics by 27 points.

The continuing presence of Newt Gingrich as an option doesn’t have much impact on this dynamic.  In a hypothetical two-man race, Romney beats Santorum by twelve with a majority at 50/38.  Santorum is still seen very favorably by likely voters at 63/32, but Romney’s favorables now exceed Santorum’s, 71/25.  Romney does even better with Republicans, 74/23, as does Santorum with a 66/28.

The momentum shift comes at the worst possible time for Santorum.  He’s claiming that a tie in delegate allocations in Michigan should give him some credit for a victory in the state, but so far voters seem to be shifting towards the popular-vote winner.  With only five days between now and Super Tuesday, Santorum will be facing stiff headwinds in his attempt to keep Romney from re-establishing his inevitability argument and pushing Republicans to get on the bandwagon to bring the contested primaries to an end.  In response, Santorum can point to the whipsaw volatility in the polling over the last few weeks to show that it’s not over until someone gets a majority, but in order to maintain that argument, Santorum has to win some primaries, and soon.


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Santorum lost the Catholic vote in Michigan… put a fork in him… he’s done!

BobScuba on March 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Romentum !

FlaMurph on March 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

It’s been a crazy volatile cycle. I’ve never seen or heard of any previous election cycle like this.

AngusMc on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Thank God, the nightmare is over. The Religious Right has lost. The adults are back in charge.

Cordell on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Heartache

milcus on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Ed Morrisey in full panic mode!

Crefonso on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I haven’t seen this many twists and turns since riding The Beast at King’s Island.

Oof.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Flip-flopping electorate hates flip-floppers.

aquaviva on March 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Thank God, Crap, the nightmare is over. The Religious Right has lost. The adults liberal RINOs are back in charge.

Cordell on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

FIFY

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Ol Rick needs some more Michael Moore and Daily Kos fans to vote for him.

crash72 on March 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Yup, two days after AZ and MI, when the ABR movement hasn’t had a chance to recover, let’s take a poll right now! ///

Sekhmet on March 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Its a new month and the church lady is last month’s flavor.

cool breeze on March 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM

For those who look at stock trends, you will know what I mean when I say that we are seeing Mitt hit higher highs and higher lows. This is a screaming BUY signal!

MJBrutus on March 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Quick, before the Huckabee debate, where Newt might make a comeback, take that poll NOW! ///

Sekhmet on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Romney will lose OH
In November Michigan will go Obama.

social-justice on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Okay, Ed, and others, I’m ready. We need to get this thing moving. I don’t really like Willard that much, but I’ll do it. I’ll try to like him and support him and I’ll certainly vote for him. He needs to work for it though. Let’s start moving on.

ted c on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Santorum lost the Catholic vote in Michigan… put a fork in him… he’s done!

BobScuba on March 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

The Michael Moore robo-call stunt also justly tore away support from the Sanctimonious One. Call him Tartuffe or Seth Pecksniff, he’s a hypocrite either way.

ebrown2 on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Yeah, I think it’s over for the not Romney’s. They have been give every chance. The process did work though. There was a complete vetting of all the candidates.

rubberneck on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

If santorum had pulled it out in michigan it would be a different story but he did that dem robo call which has now turned people off and he just couldnt get there.

ldbgcoleman on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Here comes Newt.

MarkCasper on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Ohio is huge for both next week.

If Mitt wins it’s over.

If not, the nightmare continues.

aquaviva on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Santorum’s tantrum about JFK’s speech on separation of church and state cost him, and will continue to cost him. Can’t unring that bell.

a capella on March 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Romney will lose OH

You’re referring to Super Tuesday, right? Because Mitt is still losing at this moment to Rick. That actually matters more than Michigan because Ohio is a “stigma” state… the GOP can’t win the White House without Ohio, but the Dems can win without it.

In November Michigan will go Obama.

social-justice on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

And chances are Wisconsin will go to the Dems as well. That’s why the unions and Sgt. Ed Schultz are pressing for Gov. Walker’s recall.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I said over 2 months ago.i do not trust Rasmussen or any other poll now.To much swing in all of then .After Fla Rasmussen had Romney up about 13% or 14% over Santorum yet Santorum went on to win three states the next week and then Rasmussen had Santorum up 13% over Romney now Romney wins 2 states and he,s up way over Santorum.Don,t trust any poll now way to much swing in all of them.

logman1 on March 1, 2012 at 11:46 AM

That much change in 2 weeks??? Nothing is set here, folks. We’ll all have a clearer picture after Super Tuesday. But this doesn’t look good for ANYBODY- except Obama.

michaelo on March 1, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Santorum lost the Catholic vote in Michigan… put a fork in him… he’s done!

BobScuba on March 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

even Catholics believe in marital sex.

hanzblinx on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Here comes Newt.

MarkCasper on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I wouldn’t mind seeing it come down to Newt vs. Mitt. Newt would be much better than Rick. My money’s still on Mitt to win it, though.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Well, I’m in for Santorum or Gingrich. Can’t stand Romney – nor many of his supporters on this blog from the way they have conducted themselves the last few months. In any event, should Romney buy the nomination I’ll only vote for him if he has a constitutional conservative on the ticket with him. He puts a squish like himself on there, and I’m doing a write-in and voting for conservatives down-ticket–and after that, I am officially taking myself out of the republican party. I’ve had enough of it.

KickandSwimMom on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

28-point swing in the gap in two weeks.

At this point, I think the media are just playing ping pong for the fun of it.

logis on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Santorum lost the Catholic vote in Michigan… put a fork in him… he’s done!

BobScuba on March 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM

That’s not a good sign for Santorum. Dude’s not a dumb guy. I think the shift toward social issues was a strategic move to appeal to a specific bloc of GOP voters, similar to what Huckster tried back in 2008. But it backfired spectacularly on him. Now he’s stuck trying to backtrack and focus primarily on economic issues, but it may be too late unless he can recover in time for Super Tuesday.

Doughboy on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Let the dismemberment begin.

Bishop on March 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM

The Michael Moore robo-call stunt also justly tore away support from the Sanctimonious One. Call him Tartuffe or Seth Pecksniff, he’s a hypocrite either way.

ebrown2 on March 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I agree. What was he thinking? He’s now clearly the guy that Democrats want to nominate. How is that helpful to him in the primaries?

He’s made his bed, now he has to lie in it.

rogaineguy on March 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Santorum’s tantrum about JFK’s speech on separation of church and state cost him, and will continue to cost him. Can’t unring that bell.

a capella on March 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM

It was foolish. I understand the distinction that Santorum was trying to make but attacking JFK? Come on. Even Republicans like JFK for cutting taxes and reminding us that a high tide floats all boats.

rhombus on March 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

And chances are Wisconsin will go to the Dems as well. That’s why the unions and Sgt. Ed Schultz are pressing for Gov. Walker’s recall.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:45 AM

In Ohio too may working class folks. Exit polls have shown working class lower income folks DO NOT go for Romney. I don’t see how he wins this state

social-justice on March 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Newt told Romney to quit if he lost his home state of MI.

Newt, who has lived in McLean VA for 34 years, must quit if he loses VA.

crash72 on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Brokered convention is looking better and better every day. Till then, hail seatwarmer Romney (I’m not happy about it).

nobar on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I have personally seen and shot Willard’s Reminchester 30-06 Shotgun at some Elkoose. Fine gun and the man can easily shoot his limit of elkoose before noon if they aren’t flying too high. He will make a great middle of the road Conservative.

trs on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Wow, imagine that. A horrendous candidate that was basically unknown to most people 2 weeks ago has now, in two weeks, made clear JUST how unfit he is for this race, let alone the actual race for President.

deadrody on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Santorum vomited when he read the news?

profitsbeard on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

michaelo on March 1, 2012 at 11:46 AM

At this point, whomever wins the GOP nod will win the White House. Even Mitt, whom I consider the second-to-least electable out of the four, could beat Obama now… and that’s with Mitt’s repeated Dan Quayle lapses in judgement.

That’s why the primary is taking as long as it is. The November general election may end up being totally incidental. Like a boring Super Bowl after two thrilling conference championships two weeks earlier.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Yeah, I think it’s over for the not Romney’s. They have been give every chance. The process did work though. There was a complete vetting of all the candidates.

rubberneck on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

The desire and will to find the anti-Romney was there. But the right candidate never surfaced. The best shot we really had was Perry and his campaign was a disaster. Even Cain lasted longer at the top of the polls than he did.

If Mittens goes on to win the Presidency and does a respectable job in office, no harm done. But if he loses or wins but turns out to be another Dubya, then there are gonna be a lot of conservative Republicans out there who passed on 2012 who will forever being kicking themselves.

Doughboy on March 1, 2012 at 11:52 AM

It must have killed Ed Morrissey to write this one!

Natebo on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 AM

That’s why the primary is taking as long as it is.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Nonsense. It is taking as long as it is because of proportional distribution of delegates and Super PACs.

MJBrutus on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Santorum would be a nightmare for the Republican party in the general election, fairly or unfairly.

teri_b on March 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

I think it’s over for the not Romney’s. . . The process did work though. There was a complete vetting of all the candidates.

There was a complete smearing of all the candidates, by Willard.

Emperor Norton on March 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

In Ohio too may working class folks. Exit polls have shown working class lower income folks DO NOT go for Romney. I don’t see how he wins this state

social-justice on March 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Remember that Issue 3, which basically issued a statement of disapproval against Obamacare, carried every single one of Ohio’s 88 counties by a 2-1 margin. Even liberal strongholds like Cuyahoga County and Lorain County (the latter where I hail from).

Good luck to Mitt getting THAT vote, especially with Romneycare hanging over his neck by his own volition.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM

MJBrutus on March 1, 2012 at 11:53 AM

And certain influential “leaders” who pushed the anti-establishment trope.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Remember that Issue 3, which basically issued a statement of disapproval against Obamacare, carried every single one of Ohio’s 88 counties by a 2-1 margin. Even liberal strongholds like Cuyahoga County and Lorain County (the latter where I hail from).

Good luck to Mitt getting THAT vote, especially with Romneycare hanging over his neck by his own volition.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Look I get the whole Romneycare = Obamacare thing. But the truth of the matter is the opposite. Romney repeatedly stands by the fact that if a STATE wants to pursue such a bill, that is their prerogative. But it should not be done at the federal level.

The simplest thing for Mitt to do, short of repudiating Romneycare, which he clearly is not going to, is to fully state that if a repeal bill makes it to his desk, he’ll sign it.

That should be the end of that issue. Period.

deadrody on March 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

10,000 bucks says Romney takes Ohio by 5. People want this primary over.

BettyRuth on March 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

teri_b on March 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

If that is the case, blame should be applied to the GOP on all angles for failing to give him support or defense. It doesn’t help that the Establishment side has a vested interest in Mitt.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Ouch! Hard punch to the sweater vest….

Bradky on March 1, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Total morale crusher.
Also since 12 points meant Romney should drop out. Should Santorum drop out now?

Zaggs on March 1, 2012 at 12:00 PM

************** Coronation Of Mittens *****************************
(sarc)

canopfor on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

The simplest thing for Mitt to do, short of repudiating Romneycare, which he clearly is not going to, is to fully state that if a repeal bill makes it to his desk, he’ll sign it.

That should be the end of that issue. Period.

deadrody on March 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

He’s going to fix the “bad things” in it. We’ve already had Kinsley gaffes from his supporters saying that legislative repeal is a practical impossibility.

ebrown2 on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

The robocall nonsense combined with Democrats coming out and admitting they REALLY want to run against Santorum has pushed Romney to the top by a wide margin.

This thing will be wrapped up after Super Tuesday and we can finally focus on Obama instead of a circular firing squad.

BradTank on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again . Romney is the perfect candidate for obama to run his class warfare campaign against . He’ll just use milquetoasts own dumb statements backed up by the suck up media .

rudee on March 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM

There was a complete smearing of all the candidates, by Willard.

Which is totally unfair, because nothing like that is going to happen in the general election. What sense does it make to have the GOP nomination hinge on who can best defend himself from dishonest attacks?

Fabozz on March 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Turn out the lights; the party’s over.

technopeasant on March 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM

“Santorum would be a nightmare for the Republican party in the general election, fairly or unfairly.”

That’s true. But it’s also true that Santorum could get the votes of working class whties, which Romney cannot do vs Obama. And if you think Romney can win without the Religious Right, you are fooling yourselves. The social conservatives are the lifeblood of the party. They do the grass roots volunteering, and nobody generates less enthusiasm on the ground than Mitt.

gumbyandpokey on March 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yeah, I think it’s over for the not Romney’s. They have been give every chance. The process did work though. There was a complete vetting of all the candidates.

rubberneck on March 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I tend to agree. Romney has proven to be the least worst of these miserable candidates.

lorien1973 on March 1, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I have personally seen and shot Willard’s Reminchester 30-06 Shotgun at some Elkoose. Fine gun and the man can easily shoot his limit of elkoose before noon if they aren’t flying too high. He will make a great middle of the road Conservative.

trs on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Speaking as a person who owns nine hand guns and eight long guns, and who must also -as a professional requirement- annually qualify with three weapons, two of which are fully automatic, I find the notion that someone must be a shooter and/or hunter to qualify as a conservative completely ridiculous.

M240H on March 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

There was a complete smearing of all the candidates, by Willard.

Emperor Norton on March 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

C’mon, Bachmann wasn’t smeared by Romney. She was a lightweight to begin with and flamed out when she went after Perry on the Gardasil issue. Speaking of Perry, is it Mittens’ fault that he accused GOP voters of not having a heart or couldn’t remember the Department of Energy? And unless the Romney camp was behind the leak to Politico over Herman Cain’s extramarital exploits or caused him to forget about the “right of return” or Obama’s policy in Libya, I don’t see how he was responsible for the collapse of that candidacy.

Which brings us to Newt and Santorum. Now there’s no doubt Romney(along with Ron Paul) spent millions on negative ads attacking Gingrich in Iowa and then Florida. But here’s what you have to ask yourself. Did Romney or the SuperPACs lie? Think about what Newt got attacked for. His resignation from the House Speakership(which did happen), his support of the individual mandate(which was true up until a couple years ago), and his $1.6 million payout from Freddie(which he did receive). Blame Newt for his shoddy record, not the candidate who bothered to point it out.

Santorum? It wasn’t the negative ads that did him in. It was the excessive focus on social issues. I said over the last few weeks that I had no problem with him addressing those topics and I respected him for not shying away, but you have to find that right balance. And you certainly have to be careful to not go to far as he may have done with the JFK remark. It also helps to have your surrogates on a tight leash so you don’t end up with aspirin jokes or a campaign spokeswoman accidentally referring to Obama’s Islamic beliefs.

Doughboy on March 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I find it hard that newt and Paul will stick around til convention….super Tuesday is do or die time for Rick, newt and Ron

cmsinaz on March 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Well, I’m in for Santorum or Gingrich. Can’t stand Romney – nor many of his supporters on this blog from the way they have conducted themselves the last few months. In any event, should Romney buy the nomination I’ll only vote for him if he has a constitutional conservative on the ticket with him. He puts a squish like himself on there, and I’m doing a write-in and voting for conservatives down-ticket–and after that, I am officially taking myself out of the republican party. I’ve had enough of it.

KickandSwimMom on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Very well put, KSM. These are my thoughts exactly.

Just Sayin on March 1, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Look I get the whole Romneycare = Obamacare thing. But the truth of the matter is the opposite. Romney repeatedly stands by the fact that if a STATE wants to pursue such a bill, that is their prerogative. But it should not be done at the federal level.

The simplest thing for Mitt to do, short of repudiating Romneycare, which he clearly is not going to, is to fully state that if a repeal bill makes it to his desk, he’ll sign it.

That should be the end of that issue. Period.

deadrody on March 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

And ONLY repeal Obamacare in total. No modifications or “keeping certain elements” of the law. Pledge to scrap the damn thing. Mitt would get a solid plurality of the November vote if he did that.

But, alas, I am not holding my breath. And his failure to have made such a pledge a long time ago only makes Mitt’s road a whole lot more difficult to travel, when it should never have been the case.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Thank God, the nightmare is over. The Religious Right has lost.

Cordell on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Weird.

faraway on March 1, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Santorum did it to himself with the robo-call stunt, where he pulled a twofer: he implicitly lied about his position on the auto bailouts and actively colluded with the far-Left, including UAW President Bob King and socialist crapweasel Michael Moore, to undermine a fellow Republican in a Republican primary. Santorum sold out his reputation as an honest, honorable, stand-up guy for nothing.

And based on his thoughtless, idiotic remarks about JFK’s church-and-state speech, it looks like Santorum is going to keep doing it to himself. He has a genuine knack for alienating the daylights out of potential supporters.

troyriser_gopftw on March 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Thank God, the nightmare is over. The Religious Right has lost. The adults are back in charge.

Cordell on March 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Hey Sport, the adults will be back in charge when Newt is recognized as the the only logical choice. If Newt can make some rapid gains, then maybe Mittens will run 3rd party to the left of Obozo.

NOMOBO on March 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Well, I’m in for Santorum or Gingrich. Can’t stand Romney – nor many of his supporters on this blog from the way they have conducted themselves the last few months. In any event, should Romney buy the nomination I’ll only vote for him if he has a constitutional conservative on the ticket with him. He puts a squish like himself on there, and I’m doing a write-in and voting for conservatives down-ticket–and after that, I am officially taking myself out of the republican party. I’ve had enough of it.

KickandSwimMom on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

I understand your sentiments. The more I see of Romney and his supporters, the more I hope I’m not forced to vote for him.

I also understand the impatience of many people to get this whole primary over with, especially those who are supporting Romney. I do like the fact that I actually got to vote, before the candidate was already decided on, this election cycle. The way this primary process is held is deeply flawed. There should be a way to reform it so that a handful of states don’t get to decide on the nominee before the rest of the states even get a vote.

JannyMae on March 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM

even Catholics believe in marital sex.

hanzblinx on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Not to mention birth control and female/male sterilization procedures. Not all couples want or can afford to support 8 kids.

cam2 on March 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The simplest thing for Mitt to do, short of repudiating Romneycare, which he clearly is not going to, is to fully state that if a repeal bill makes it to his desk, he’ll sign it.

That should be the end of that issue. Period.

deadrody on March 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM

He has said it repeatedly. Yet some are content to cover their ears and pretend it never happened.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 12:13 PM

The robocall nonsense combined with Democrats coming out and admitting they REALLY want to run against Santorum has pushed Romney to the top by a wide margin.

Have any proof to support such a wild theory?

This thing will be wrapped up after Super Tuesday and we can finally focus on Obama instead of a circular firing squad.

BradTank on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Willing to place a bet on that? Ohio is now a gambling state. Lol.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:13 PM

He’s going to fix the “bad things” in it. We’ve already had Kinsley gaffes from his supporters saying that legislative repeal is a practical impossibility.

ebrown2 on March 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM

The sad thing is, a legislative repeal pretty much is going to go nowhere. Unless Republicans win a super-majority in the Senate and perhaps even increase their representation in the House. Even THEN I’d call it a long-shot.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Correction Ed…Romney won the last four states that voted: Maine, Arizona, Michigan and Wyoming.

Elizabetty on March 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Doughboy on March 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Well said.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Speaking as a person who owns nine hand guns and eight long guns, and who must also -as a professional requirement- annually qualify with three weapons, two of which are fully automatic, I find the notion that someone must be a shooter and/or hunter to qualify as a conservative completely ridiculous.

M240H on March 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Yep. It’s one of the litmus tests necessary so the correct label can be attached. Sometimes it can even be subdivided further, such as gunowners who don’t hunt(bad) and gunowners who do(good). There are also a few other required tests. Absolute purity is very important.:)

a capella on March 1, 2012 at 12:16 PM

He has said it repeatedly. Yet some are content to cover their ears and pretend it never happened.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 12:13 PM

It would be news, because he’s never said it explicitly.

Where’s the video of him saying as such? Measly textual posts on websites do not count.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM

O/T,

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canopfor on March 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM

That’s not a good sign for Santorum. Dude’s not a dumb guy. I think the shift toward social issues was a strategic move to appeal to a specific bloc of GOP voters, similar to what Huckster tried back in 2008. But it backfired spectacularly on him. Now he’s stuck trying to backtrack and focus primarily on economic issues, but it may be too late unless he can recover in time for Super Tuesday.

Doughboy on March 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Want to know why? Because, as someone like Ace has pointed out, whenever Santorum does talk about social issues, it’s with excessive negativity. He’s the equivalent of a hellfire-and-brimstone preacher, all “this is what is going to cast you into the pit of fire.” Coupled with a healthy dose of moral judgment upon those who don’t view things as myopically as he does.

No one wants to be lectured to by a dour and severe judgmental a**hole.

Well, actually, apparently a good number of “very conservative” voters do, but those of us with a libertarian bent, which is what I thought the conservative movement was moving more towards, do not.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Romney now edges Santorum by four among Tea Party voters

I wonder how much Santorum’s dance with the far left in the Michigan robocall debacle factors into his freefall.

whatcat on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Doesn’t matter. Romney does not have my vote. He’s no better than Obama because he has no core beliefs and will cave. The Senate will squash him.

lea on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Doesn’t matter. Romney does not have my vote. He’s no better than Obama because he has no core beliefs and will cave. The Senate will squash him.

lea on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

As long as a squish like Mitch McConnell heads the Senate Republicans, don’t expect much from them.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM

O/T,

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canopfor on March 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM

No one wants to be lectured to by a dour and severe judgmental a**hole.
Well, actually, apparently a good number of “very conservative” voters do, but those of us with a libertarian bent, which is what I thought the conservative movement was moving more towards, do not.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Heh. I’ve always had a little problem with that.

a capella on March 1, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Not all couples want or can afford to support 8 kids.

cam2 on March 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM

“sometimes you just gotta take one (or eight) for the team” – Rick explaining childbearing to his wife

hanzblinx on March 1, 2012 at 12:22 PM

With Breitbart’s passing and this poll result:

THIS IS THE DAY THAT AMERICA DIED.

Four more years of Obama is assured. Mediocre Mitt is way overmatched by the superstar Messiah.

It’s like a 15 round heavyweight championship of the world.

Obama will keep Romney at bay with his jab. Romney will not be capable or have the will to knock “the champ” out.

Obama will get in more punches (demagoguery) and at the end of the fight Obama will win in a split decision (close election).

Why will the election by close?

The state of the economy and disaffection of white voters for Obama.

Why will Obama win?

Low turnout from white conservative voters + 3rd party vote.

technopeasant on March 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM

The sad thing is, a legislative repeal pretty much is going to go nowhere. Unless Republicans win a super-majority in the Senate and perhaps even increase their representation in the House. Even THEN I’d call it a long-shot.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Absolutely right. Even a successful repeal would leave us with an out-of-control medical system that is rapidly outstripping anyone’s and everyone’s ability to pay for it.

Something has to be done. Tort reform and HSAs, even if you could pass them, aren’t nearly enough to fix the problems.

cool breeze on March 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM

It would be news, because he’s never said it explicitly.

Where’s the video of him saying as such? Measly textual posts on websites do not count.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Yes, he has. Many times. Here’s just one example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyjnzJtQPD8

The discussion on Obamacare begins at the 1:11 point.

Syzygy on March 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM

No one wants to be lectured to by a dour and severe judgmental a**hole.
Well, actually, apparently a good number of “very conservative” voters do, but those of us with a libertarian bent, which is what I thought the conservative movement was moving more towards, do not.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I can’t help but think of Micheal Savage. And after a while, Savage’s show began a significant decline under similar pretenses. It’s nowhere as popular as it was in 2003 or so.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM

No one wants to be lectured to by a dour and severe judgmental a**hole.
Well, actually, apparently a good number of “very conservative” voters do, but those of us with a libertarian bent, which is what I thought the conservative movement was moving more towards, do not.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Heh. I’ve always had a little problem with that.

a capella on March 1, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Aside from all that, voters often tend to gravitate more toward the happy warrior than the morose, grumpy types.

whatcat on March 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM

There was a complete smearing of all the candidates, by Willard.

Emperor Norton on March 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Oh you are right. Romney was never attacked or smeared throughout this process. /sarc

rubberneck on March 1, 2012 at 12:28 PM

I have personally seen and shot Willard’s Reminchester 30-06 Shotgun at some Elkoose. Fine gun and the man can easily shoot his limit of elkoose before noon if they aren’t flying too high. He will make a great middle of the road Conservative.

trs on March 1, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Speaking as a person who owns nine hand guns and eight long guns, and who must also -as a professional requirement- annually qualify with three weapons, two of which are fully automatic, I find the notion that someone must be a shooter and/or hunter to qualify as a conservative completely ridiculous.

M240H on March 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM

M240H…
As i said awhile ago and over and over…the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Tea Party was taken over and now a conservative, at least on HA, must meet certain standards to BE a conservative. Never understood the litmus test.

I knew if Romney took MI AND AZ that people will want to end this quickly and I would look besides, OH, that Romney may surprise in GA as well.

g2825m on March 1, 2012 at 12:35 PM

The Michael Moore robo-call stunt also justly tore away support from the Sanctimonious One.

Bingo.

Santorum’s Robo-Call to Democrats offended the very voters he appeals to: ultra-conservative evangelicals, the ideological purists. That was really stupid of Santorum. Can’t undo it now.

The wiser analysts are giving Romney a good chance to pull off a victory in Ohio. Larry Sabato, interviewed on Fox earlier today: Romney can win Ohio.

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson at RedState has jumped off the cliff and is flailing about in delirious desperation for Newt Gingrich again. It’s pathetic to see him so desperate to reclaim credibility after pronouncing just a few weeks ago that “Newt Gingrich will be the nominee for the GOP.”

Come to grips with reality. The only candidate who is viable for the general election against Obama is Mitt Romney. You can hate him all you like; but if you want Obama out, you will come to grips with reality and give up this ideological purist crap. Elections are won and lost by the vast middle, not the minority of extremists at either end of the spectrum. I am heartened by the fact that GOP voters are rejecting the politics of division, culture wars, and class wars, and coming round to the reasonable, rational decision to support the best candidate against Obama this year. That isn’t Newt, or Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul. It’s Mitt Romney–who has the experience, the organization, and the backing to take it to Obama.

mountainaires on March 1, 2012 at 12:35 PM

The sad thing is, a legislative repeal pretty much is going to go nowhere. Unless Republicans win a super-majority in the Senate and perhaps even increase their representation in the House. Even THEN I’d call it a long-shot.

Vyce on March 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

It would be news, because he’s never said it explicitly.

Where’s the video of him saying as such? Measly textual posts on websites do not count.

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I know it will be tough. But remember: the individual mandate was going nowhere in Massachusetts either, until Romney fought for it. He aggressively lobbied House Dems to adopt it, and he succeeded. He even convinced Kennedy to support it. (Of course, the Senate rejected both the individual mandate and the employer mandate, but that’s another story.) And he aggressively lobbied for final passage.

So I think the question goes beyond whether Romney would commit to signing a repeal bill if it lands on his desk. The question we should be asking is, Will Romney use every tool he has at his disposal to fight for full and complete repeal of the ObamaCare monstrosity, or will he just sit back and wait? Will he be willing to expend any political capital on this fight?

Just Sayin on March 1, 2012 at 12:36 PM

The Sanctimonious Meltdown is in progress. Pass the popcorn.

Foxhound on March 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Here is another question about the Southern States voting in Super Tuesday…why SHOULD Romney struggle there? Are they not concerned about the economy, jobs, unemployment lines, and living on food stamps? Or is the reason Romney MAY struggle there is because of the underlying reason he is Mormon and so there is a religious test? hence why people think he will not poll so well. So is it fair to say the South is bigoted?

I’m not trying to be flip here. I am seriously asking? I used to live in TN and KY for a little while so I know of the Mormon bias. Is this why he will not do well? And if so what does that say about our country, the south, our party?

g2825m on March 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Santorum made a huge mistake by not repudiating Micheal Moore and the Democratic shenanigans in Michigan. Instead he embraced them. I realize he felt he needed these votes but it turned off many Republicans and there was a definite backlash. The Democrats are not done with this and are planning the same thing in Ohio and here in Illinois there is already an effort underway to recruit Dems to vote in our primary for Santorum. Romney would be smart to exploit this further. It is a win/win for him.

kurtd on March 1, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Foxhound on March 1, 2012 at 12;37 PM

THE SANCTIMONIOUS MELTDOWN IS IN PROGRESS. PASS THE POPCORN.

Ye of a small mind. The United States of America died today with the release of this poll and the death of Breitbart.

A Romney coronation= 4 more years of Obama and no way that Obamacare will ever be repealed ever.

Today really is the first day of the real transformation of America from a capitalist to a socialist country.

Obama doesn’t need to care what policies he now enacts. Romney’s nomination assures him that he will be re-elected.

technopeasant on March 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM

rational decision to support the best candidate against Obama this year. That isn’t Newt, or Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul. It’s Mitt Romney–who has the experience, the organization, and the backing to take it to Obama.

mountainaires on March 1, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Mtn…
I have been wondering why some are backing candidates who pick and choose which States to even compete in! I mean if you CANNOT even compete in every state during YOUR primary that is a HUGE CLUE that you are not ready for prime time and yet people are running back and forth between RS and NG. These guys CANNOT compete in every state as they do not have the organization as you stated above.

Romney is not this boogeyman everyone thinks he is AND as I read some posts here and in the past I KNOW FOR A FACT that some just go along with the False talking points about Romney. Check his website out! He hammers Obama there and posts ALL of his speeches, videos, etc where people keep asking “IF he would only say he would repeal Obamacare, or if he would only say this or that…” It is ALL there on the site! :o)

g2825m on March 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM

technopeasant on March 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Or, Mitt wins the White House in spite of everything, but is so weak and unimpressive that he loses to Hillary in 2016 whilst the GOP implodes yet again.

Either way, it was a nice country while it lasted… :\

Myron Falwell on March 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

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