Romney blasts Santorum for robocalling Democrats in open MI primary

posted at 1:20 pm on February 28, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Is courting Democrats in an open primary “outrageous,” or simply good politics? Rick Santorum’s campaign funded robocalls to get Michigan Democrats to come to the state’s open primary today, attacking Romney as “Massachusetts Mitt” and slamming Romney for opposing the auto bailout — which, as Chris Cillizza points out, Santorum also opposed:

Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign is actively seeking the support of Democrats in Tuesday’s Michigan primary, running a robocall that sounds oddly like one that would be run by an organized labor group.

“Michigan Democrats can vote in the Republican primary on Tuesday,” the narrator says in a copy of the automated call to Democratic voters that was initially obtained by Talking Points Memo. “Why is it so important? (Mitt) Romney supported the bailout for his Wall Street billionaire buddies, but opposed the auto bailout. That was a slap in the face to every Michigan worker. And we’re not going to let Romney get away with it.”

Then the ad closes with: “This call is supported by hard-working Democratic men and women and paid for by Rick Santorum for President.” …

It’s also an odd message considering that Santorum also opposed the auto bailout. Santorum has tried to differentiate himself on the issue by noting that he has a blanket no-bailout policy, while Romney supported the Wall Street bailout but not the auto bailout.

The Romney campaign responded last night with an e-mailed statement calling the robocalls “outrageous,” and that it proves that Santorum has “moved beyond just ‘taking one for the team;’ he is now willing to wear the other team’s jersey if he thinks it will get him more votes.”  Romney himself made TV appearances today condemning Santorum for “teaming up with the Obama people” and calling it “a new low in this campaign.” But this seems way over the top, even if you’re inclined to share some of Romney’s outrage:

Flanked by volunteers at his campaign headquarters, Romney conceded that — as recent polls suggest — Santorum might win and pointed to the Santorum robo-calls encouraging Democratic crossover voters to turn out in the open primary.
“I think the hardest thing about predicting what’s going to happen today is whether Senator Santorum’s effort to call Democrat households and tell them to come out and vote against Mitt Romney is going to be successful or not. I think Republicans have to recognize there’s a real effort to kidnap our primary process. And if we want Republicans to nominate the Republican who takes on Barack Obama, I need Republicans to get out and vote and say no to the dirty tricks of a desperate campaign,” the former Massachusetts governor said.

Romney encouraged volunteers working the phones to get Republicans to turn out for him instead. “We want this to be a process where Republicans choose our Republican nominee. We don’t want the Democrats to choose who they think is the easiest person to run against,” he added.

However, Michigan’s primary is open, which means that Democrats will make up some percentage of the vote.  In the 2008 primary, they comprised 7% of the vote despite the fact that Democrats had their own primary at the same time.  Democrats might be inclined to turn out in the same amount or more this time — so why not court them?  Kevin McCullough reminds the Romney campaign that the idea is to get Democrats to vote for Republicans at some point:

He’s expressing this morning his “outrage” and “disgust” at a concept that signals something very important to anyone watching the race from a general election perspective.

Earth to Mitt, Earth to Mitt: There are not enough pure Republican voters in the country for you to win a general election. Reaching out to Democrats isn’t only the savvy thing to do from a campaign strategy in the primary, it also makes a heck of a lot of sense in laying the groundwork for disaffected Democrats and Independents in the general election.

Mitt’s team feels sucker-punched because they have had almost no forethought on the Michigan race almost from the get-go. They weren’t paying attention when they lost Iowa. They weren’t paying attention when they lost Minnesota. They weren’t paying attention when they lost Missouri. They’re not paying attention now that they may lost Michigan, or that they are running a huge risk in possible losing Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

The Team Romney scorched-earth, spend big, and no-one-challenge-us, mentality has not brought about an especially strong argument for why people should vote for their candidate.

The Boss Emeritus writes that Santorum is playing by the open-primary rules, and that Romney needs to toughen up:

Inconvenient truth: There’s nothing “dirty” and there’s no “trick” in playing by the rules set by the states. Seventeen states have open primaries. (Think the rules should be changed? Go for it. But not in the middle of the game.) One of those 17 states with open primaries is Massachusetts. And among the many voters who have crossed over to influence the outcome of an open primary is…Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney’s longtime argument is that he, not Santorum, is best equipped to appeal to the very Reagan Democrats that Rick Santorum is wooing.

Yet, in the state he considers his “home state” and where he has desperately outspent Santorum by 3-to-1, tonight’s outcome is “too close to call.”

If Romney can’t put away Santorum and can’t handle a run-of-the-mill robocall, how is he going to handle Team Obama’s Chicago goons and the Democrat deacons of truly dirty tricks?

Even the normally Romney-sympathetic Jennifer Rubin at the Washington Post mostly agrees:

Aside from some strategic ambiguity as to the origin of the ad, there is nothing legally or even politically wrong with going after Democratic votes. The primary is not limited to registered Republicans. Just as GOP candidates in New Hampshire appealed to independent voters who were allowed to vote in that contest, it is perfectly acceptable to try to maximize a candidate’s votes by corralling Democrats. If the GOP wants a closed primary, it can have one.

That said, it’s rather embarrassing to be caught snuggling up to pro-union Democrats since Santorum characterizes himself to Romney’sright. The robocalls are either trying to confuse voters that Santorum supported the auto bailout (which he did not), or an admission that Santorum is perceived as the weaker candidate (Democrats, come vote for me to help you in November!). It sure does muddy his message, which is that he’s the one with the bolder contrasts to go up against Obama.

This is an inside-baseball story that is not likely to influence actual voters today (other than to inform some Democrats that the ad is from Santorum and not actual Democrats). Moreover, the number of mischief-making voters who are really going to bother to vote, I imagine, is quite small.

The impact of the story, if any, is to give Romney an excuse if he loses in Michigan and to muddle Santorum’s message. In his anxiousness to try to pull in a few Democratic voters, Santorum has undercut his own self-description as the most Republican of the Republican candidates and conveyed a certain desperation.

It has that kind of sense to me, too.  The ad doesn’t cross over into the kind of class-warfare attacks leveled by Romney and Newt Gingrich at each other a few weeks ago, and pointing out that Romney supported the Wall Street bailout while opposing the auto bailout doesn’t reach that level of Occupy rhetoric — even if it is a bit hypocritical, considering Santorum’s opposition to the auto bailout, too.  It’s hardly “outrageous” or a dirty trick, though, and it’s certainly not “kidnapping” a primary that’s already open to Democratic voters. Until Santorum’s rise, I doubt that the Romney team saw an open primary as a bad thing, anyway.

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Romney actually once voted for a Democrat.

liberal4life on February 28, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Again, True Conservatives: consistency matters.

You are the folks who savaged McCain for making GOP primary appeals to unaffiliated voters in open states.

So which is it? Are Democrats hijacking our primary process, or was McCain’s tactic the right one?

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

“Politics” will always trump professionalism and honor.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Pot saw kettle and said looks how black you are.

Kettle looked back at pot and said have you looked in the mirror lately?

Pot said I don’t own a mirror.

kettle says that makes sense

liberal4life on February 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Robo calling dems is absolutely in poor taste. But you know what more in poor taste? Romney trying to run as a conservative.

bloghooligan on February 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

It’s not wrong to campaign with democrat voters.

It’s wrong to do it parroting democrat/OWS talking points, bashing the conservative position on the auto bailout as the wrong one.

How hard is this to understand?

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Until Santorum’s rise, I doubt that the Romney team saw an open primary as a bad thing, anyway.

I agree. Complaining about this this makes Romney (and most Mittbots, I might add)out to be petulant whiners and hypocrites.

Norwegian on February 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

The truth is the Auto Worker Union have ordered their members to go out and vote for Santorum. Rush is always telling us THEY will tell us who they are afraid of… too bad our side is so far in the tank for Santorum they refuse to report it! Santorum and the Democrats are on the same side!!! Isn’t this great news!!!

BobScuba on February 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Pathetic defenses.

Its not just that Santorum needs Democrats to beat Romney. Its that he is using a liberal message.

That sanctimonious phony has been campaigning against bailouts for months. Now, he makes a robocal to Dems blasting Romney for opposing the auto bailout.

What a pathetic lot the Romney Haters have become. Malkin is losing her grip on reality.

swamp_yankee on February 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

This is just Richard (Dick) Santorum admitting that Romney is more popular among real Republicans. And that he, Richard (Dick) knows he, Richard (Dick) is the weaker candidate.

LOL!!!!!

I can understand why Democrats would want to do this to our party. They want us to lose. I just don’t condone Republicans encouraging this in a Republican Primary.

Gunlock Bill on February 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

As voters in Florida go to polls, Mitt Romney tells Newt Gingrich not to ‘whine’

With voters already going to the polls, Mitt Romney this morning defended his use of negative campaign ads as a way to gain traction against Newt Gingrich, saying he will not hesitate to fire when fired upon and that the former House speaker had no reason to “whine” about the ads.

flyfisher on February 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

mitt, I have to say, don’t act like bho if you don’t get your way! We already have one in the wh that whines and whines daily. I am sick of bho and getting really sick of your whines!
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letget on February 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Santorum is NOT demonstrating any strength with Reagan Democrats. In fact, just the opposite. He is demonstrating his strength with Michael Moore Democrats. This should speak volumes for you folks hanging in there for St. Santa.

rhombus on February 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

So which is it? Are Democrats hijacking our primary process, or was McCain’s tactic the right one?

It was wrong for McCain to do it, because he’s a RINO.

It’s okay for Santorum to do it, because he’s a true conservative. And when you’re trying to accomplish the higher goal of destroying Romney (which, let’s face it, is more important than defeating Obama in November — it’s about empowerment!), ‘by any means necessary’ is a perfectly acceptable strategy.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I hope this doesn’t mean Santorum would misrepresent anything just to win. I had pretty high hopes for him, what with his high moral code and all.

a capella on February 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Romney himself voted for Paul Tsongas in the 1992 Democratic Presidential primary.

Norwegian on February 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Can’t wait to hear Ed cry tonight.
Same guy who decries negative ads against his angel Santorum now says someone else needs to toughen up, classic. The shilling you’ve done for sweatervest is pathetic.

Zaggs on February 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Santorum is scum. Voting for the notRomney will produce the notRomney Barak Obama.

aloysiusmiller on February 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Is Santorum wrong to campaign for votes from MI Democrats?

No.

Is Santorum wrong to campaign on slamming Romney for opposing the auto-bailout and having rich friends?

Yes.

Ed, you should make a poll with the correct question.

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I love how Ed acts like Santorum is genuinely trying to bring Democrats over to voting for him.

thphilli on February 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Rombots hardest hit. Apparently negative campaigning at any cost is not enough to get people to eat a Mitt sandwich.

WhatNot on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Boy I miss Rick Perry.

That is all.

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ed your missing the point, its perfectly fine to campaign and ask democrats to vote for you. What is gross about the call is the fact that the call is Santorum attacking him from the left by saying Romney didnt support the auto bailout ,implying that he Santorum did, which is totally false. If Romney did this, the conservative press would freak out and you know it. Can you imagine if the same call with the same message was used to attack Santorum? Hotair and the rest would be going nuts, Malkin included.

nswider on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

It’s unethical to misrepresent his own position on the auto-bailout to court the democrat vote. That is straight out of the David Axelrod playbook. Perhaps you need an additional poll, asking your readers if they support that BS…

gaius on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Inconvenient question for Romney (which so far hasn’t been asked). If he’s against soliciting Dems in the primary, does he reject the votes of any Democrat choosing him in the primary?

EMD on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

This is just Richard (Dick) Santorum admitting that Romney is more popular among real Republicans. And that he, Richard (Dick) knows he, Richard (Dick) is the weaker candidate.

Look, the fact that Romney is actually winning by seven or eight percent among actual Republicans in Michigan just means that those Republicans aren’t REAL Republicans. They’re RINOs. Their vote is less than worthless if it returns the wrong (i.e. Romney) result. By getting Democrats (whether liberals or not, who cares?) to swing the outcome to Santorum, Rick is just helping get the larger message of “anybody but Romney” out there by any means necessary.

Again, if Rick is being a little underhanded here, then it’s in service of the greater and more noble goal of destroying Romney.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

If Romney can’t put away Santorum and can’t handle a run-of-the-mill robocall, how is he going to handle Team Obama’s Chicago goons and the Democrat deacons of truly dirty tricks?

This!!

I think Romney is just PO’ed that he and his team didn’t think to try and court potential disaffected Democrats.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

You are the folks who savaged McCain for making GOP primary appeals to unaffiliated voters in open states.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

LOL … No I didn’t.

Melodrama much?

Need a cryin’ towel?

Look man – your boy has outspent everyone else COMBINED to the tune of 20 to 1 … and YOU can’t deal with a few dimmocritic votes?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HondaV65 on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Inconvenient question for Romney (which so far hasn’t been asked). If he’s against soliciting Dems in the primary, does he reject the votes of any Democrat choosing him in the primary?

EMD on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Why wouldn’t Romney simply saying “I welcome Democrat voters in the primary, but I find outrageous pandering to them by parroting liberal talking-points as Senator Santorum does”?

Would that answer satisfy you?

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Is courting Democrats in an open primary “outrageous,” or simply good politics?

Do conservatives now think its Kosher to misrepresent your own position on the issues, all in the name of “good politics”? If so, I’m sooooo glad I’m still a libertarian.

gaius on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

With voters already going to the polls, Mitt Romney this morning defended his use of negative campaign ads as a way to gain traction against Newt Gingrich, saying he will not hesitate to fire when fired upon and that the former House speaker had no reason to “whine” about the ads.

You have a problem with factually based ads that hurt one candidate while espousing the virtues of another?

antisense on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I love how Ed acts like Santorum is genuinely trying to bring Democrats over to voting for him.

thphilli on February 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Democrats outnumber Republicans by over 1 MILLION in Pennsylvania. Santorum HAD to attract many socially conservative Democrats in 1994 and 2000 when he won his senate races.

A key result tonight will how Democrats in the the Upper Peninsula of MI (social conservative) vote tonight. If Santorum carries them, it will proof positive that he can win Reagan Democrats; while Romney cannot.

Norwegian on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

A bit hypocritical?? Come on, Ed, if this were Romney, your keyboard would be bursting into flames with the fury of your typing.

My only consolation is that I’m pretty sure that Santorum will be hoisted on his own petard, and that it will be soon.

Priscilla on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I miss Perry also!
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letget on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Stop whining Newt Romney!

portlandon on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Its only OK when Romney does it.

El_Terrible on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

You’re tears are like ice cream to me.

HondaV65 on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Look, the fact that Romney is actually winning by seven or eight percent among actual Republicans in Michigan just means that those Republicans aren’t REAL Republicans. They’re RINOs. Their vote is less than worthless if it returns the wrong (i.e. Romney) result. By getting Democrats (whether liberals or not, who cares?) to swing the outcome to Santorum, Rick is just helping get the larger message of “anybody but Romney” out there by any means necessary.

Again, if Rick is being a little underhanded here, then it’s in service of the greater and more noble goal of destroying Romney.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PMLOL. I thought high moral codes weren’t based on convenience or situation. Are you saying situational ethics are the way to go?

a capella on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Pot saw kettle and said looks how black you are.

Kettle looked back at pot and said have you looked in the mirror lately?

Pot said I don’t own a mirror.

kettle says that makes sense

liberal4life on February 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Hmmmm. If conservatives use the old pot/kettle axiom, we get called racist.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

The Romney campaign responded last night with an e-mailed statement calling the robocalls “outrageous,” and that it proves that Santorum has “moved beyond just ‘taking one for the team;’ he is now willing to wear the other team’s jersey if he thinks it will get him more votes.

coming from the head RINO himself, that is just too rich….

ted c on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

My only consolation is that I’m pretty sure that Santorum will be hoisted on his own petard, and that it will be soon.

Priscilla on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

It won’t be any sooner than Super Tuesday, Prissy. Until then, it will still be mathematically possible for any of the three legit players to seal the deal.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I miss Perry also!
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letget on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

This is definitely the wrong Rick still in the race.

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Of course Romney is talking about it.Number one it can be used as an excuse if he loses and number 2 it can be used against Santorum in the future. why not talk about it.

gerry-mittbot-thinks Ed is biased-lol

gerrym51 on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

This!!

I think Romney is just PO’ed that he and his team didn’t think to try and court potential disaffected Democrats.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I suspect the crazy would be singing a very different tune if it was Romney running ads saying “vote for me, Santorum opposes the bailout and has rich friends!”.

Can anyone imagine Ed’s post in that case?

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Again, if Rick is being a little underhanded here, then it’s in service of the greater and more noble goal of destroying Romney.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Wait, whut?

I thought conservatives lived and died by principles…? That sounds like a rationalization from the Left.

John the Libertarian on February 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

If Romney can’t put away Santorum and can’t handle a run-of-the-mill robocall, how is he going to handle Team Obama’s Chicago goons and the Democrat deacons of truly dirty tricks?

The dude has a Death Star.

WashJeff on February 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

DEMOCRATS FOR RICK SANTORUM… IN THE GOP PRIMARY

If anyone, besides Santorum, thinks that the democrats are voting for Santorum because of his economic plan they need to have their brain exampined. The proof is in the pudding. MoveOn.org, the Unions, and Obama‘s campaign have sunk millions into Michigan to stop Romney in his ’home state.’

This is evidence that the Democrats want Santorum to be the candidate because he would be the easiest to beat. Why else was Santorum at 2% for the whole race until the last two weeks. Then when his history came out and his poor debate performance happened his numbers tanked.

ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE OBAMA ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

Top_Down on February 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Ed, you should make a poll with the correct question.

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Then post the correct question on your blog

flyfisher on February 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Please pass that bottle of Dramamine. And the jug of Mittens kool-aid.

platypus on February 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Santorum has joined with the Auto Union Leadership on this… Is that OK with you Ed?

BobScuba on February 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

LOL … No I didn’t.

HondaV65 on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

“Oh my God! The media is picking our nominee for us!”

“Oh my God! The Democrats are picking our nominee for us!”

If you’re going to lie, be slicker about it, champ.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Can’t wait to hear Ed cry tonight.

Zaggs on February 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Come on, Ed, if this were Romney, your keyboard would be bursting into flames with the fury of your typing.

Priscilla on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Can anyone imagine Ed’s post in that case?

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Petulant whining has become a trademark for Mittbots.

If HotAir is so horrible, why don’t you just go over to Frum’s Forum? You are sure to find more like-minded bots over there.

Norwegian on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

outrageous = mad that they didn’t think of it

Dusty on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Of course Romney is talking about it.Number one it can be used as an excuse if he loses and number 2 it can be used against Santorum in the future. why not talk about it.

gerry-mittbot-thinks Ed is biased-lol

gerrym51

Actually all the Santy fans have done their best to make it seem like an upset calling Michigan Romney’s home state though no one else thinks that.
Ed went off the deep end earlier today when he tried to claim a lifeness article said Romney was lying about Rick supporting Title X and planned parenthood. Santorum said he voted for Title X, lifenews article said Santorum voted for Title X, but that now supposedly Santy is against it. Doesn’t change the fact Romney was correct. It was an inconvenient truth to Ed.

Zaggs on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Should Romney get the nomination, will he be outraged when the Obamathugocrats robocall Republicans urging them to crossover and vote to re-elect His Greatness?

Mittsie says he can’t even make incendiary comments about the Thug-in-Chief to get the base riled up. Well, hey, Mitt, I’d like to know that you can and will do whatever it takes to kick this Prezuhdunce and poor excuse of an American to the curb in November. Your opponents are showing me that they can. Stop the whining and focus on the Whiner-in-Chief.

stukinIL4now on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

On one had, Morrissey, a Santorum supporting (he has endorsed him), is avoiding the obvious ploy of Democrats voting in this Michigan primary, that they see their guy, Obama, as beating Santorum, and as Romney being the tougher out. This should be a part of the analysis.

On the other, open primaries are open primaries. If Rick wants to appeal to Democrats to win Michigan, so be it. Romney is doing what he should do…call it out and bring attention to it. And it’s a great excuse if he loses Michigan and the number of voting Democrats is enough to argue it made a difference in the outcome. So no crying in politics.

Besides, I think this is a bad move for Santorum. He already smells of Big Labor. He’s struggled to explain his right to work votes. Unions leadership are causing all kinds of problems with Republicans these days (Ohio, Wisconsin) and are now seen as the enemy by the GOP voters. So the narrative of him being married to Union Leadership is going to be an effective argument against him going forward for both Newt and Mitt. In fact, both have been hitting him with it as of late and expect it to increase after the robocalls.

cd98 on February 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I’m impressed.

lea on February 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Hmmmm. If conservatives use the old pot/kettle axiom, we get called racist.

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Well blame Reagan and Nixon for their southern White strategy

liberal4life on February 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Again, if Rick is being a little underhanded here, then it’s in service of the greater and more noble goal of destroying Romney.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Do you work with Peter Gleick by any chance?

gaius on February 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Boy I miss Rick Perry.

That is all.

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Nobody else does.

kurtd on February 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Disgusting. Snyder has turned a huge deficit into a surplus in a year and a half in Michigan. We wouldn’t want Romney to do that, would we? This party and the conservative movement is lost. I used to think I could vote for Santorum, but not now EVER. He’s nothing but a slime bag politician that has never worked in the real world.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

I’m going to say this outright. True Conservatives are selling their souls to the devil in order to break Mitt Romney.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

I thought high moral codes weren’t based on convenience or situation. Are you saying situational ethics are the way to go?

Whatever it takes. There’s nothing situational about the ethical realization that Mitt Romney must be stopped by any means necessary. All other considerations — whether they be dirty tricks, attacks, distortions of his words, whatever — are acceptable so long as they tend to promote this one overriding moral imperative.

Again: it far better to lose against Obama with Santorum than to win in November with Romney. Because at least we will be in charge of the party, even if only in defeat. In fact, another defeat might even be preferable if only to purge the last few remaining RINOs and glibertarians from the ranks of the Republican Party, so we can run on a truly ideologically robust platform of pure, undiluted Christian conservatism.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

A wise man can change his mind,..a fool never does. But, I suppose a wise man can also misrepresent himself in order to gain an advantage. So, does Ricky’s high moral standard allow waivers for campaigns? In sports, you play the way you practice.

a capella on February 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

A key result tonight will how Democrats in the the Upper Peninsula of MI (social conservative) vote tonight. If Santorum carries them, it will proof positive that he can win Reagan Democrats; while Romney cannot.

Norwegian on February 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM

You are high. No democrats are voting for Santorum because they like him. They are voting for him because he is unelectable and they know it. I mean seriously what kind of sheltered life do you live where you haven’t read about unions, the DNC and Michael Moore all explicitly talking about doing this?

thphilli on February 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Disgusting. Snyder has turned a huge deficit into a surplus in a year and a half in Michigan.

Snyder’s record in Michigan isn’t even remotely relevant. I find it far more telling that he endorsed RINO Romney, which proves that he’s the enemy and just one more guy we need to defeat and purge from the movement.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Something something…bean bag…something something Romney said when he blasted Gingrich in IA and FL.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on February 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Disgusting. Snyder has turned a huge deficit into a surplus in a year and a half in Michigan. We wouldn’t want Romney to do that, would we? This party and the conservative movement is lost. I used to think I could vote for Santorum, but not now EVER. He’s nothing but a slime bag politician that has never worked in the real world.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Prediction: Scott Walker will lose in Michigan because of these “tru conservatives” class warfare and pro-unions rhetoric.

joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

The ad doesn’t cross over into the kind of class-warfare attacks leveled by Romney and Newt Gingrich at each other a few weeks ago, and pointing out that Romney supported the Wall Street bailout while opposing the auto bailout doesn’t reach that level of Occupy rhetoric — even if it is a bit hypocritical, considering Santorum’s opposition to the auto bailout, too. It’s hardly “outrageous” or a dirty trick, though, and it’s certainly not “kidnapping” a primary that’s already open to Democratic voters.

Right, because talking about Romney’s “billionaire” Wall Street cronies isn’t class warfare, at all. /

changer1701 on February 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Its only OK when Romney does it.

El_Terrible on February 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Yep. Mitt thought he had Michigan in the bag and got caught with his pants down.

What’s that they say about karma?

JPeterman on February 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM

romneycare blasting santorium for reaching out to democrats, apart from being good strategy, romneycare as usual is a hypocrite, he VOTED in the 1992 democratic primary in Massachusetts.

Do you know who romneycare voted for in 1992, leftist democratic senator paul tsongas. further he gave monies to tsongas 7 democrats for congress.

Romneycare didn’t become a republican until 1994 running against ted kenndey to get his name raised. see he figured with so few republicans in the state he could start at the top all offices would be open to him. as a democrat in massachusetts with all pols serving for life he had limited opportunities.

romneycare is an opportunist. He is scum. he is a democrat pretending to be republican.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/27/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-ive-never-voted-democrat-when-the/

Danielvito on February 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Here’s an idea: HOW ABOUT WE HAVE CLOSED FRAKIN’ PRIMARIES?!?!?!?!

Darksean on February 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Go Team Santorum!!! 2012

multiuseless on February 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

The Democrats voting for Santorum in the primary are doing so because they know Obama will beat Santorum in a landslide in November-pulling all the senate and congressional seats with him.

Alma on February 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM

The ONLY reason a dem will vote for santorum is becuase they know he is unelectable like the rest of us conservatives. When mr. sweatervest appeals for dem votes, he is not trying to win, he is demonstrating that he will lose.

aniptofar on February 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Inconvenient question for Romney (which so far hasn’t been asked). If he’s against soliciting Dems in the primary, does he reject the votes of any Democrat choosing him in the primary?

EMD on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

If Santorum is attracting Democratic voters that would vote for Santorum over Barack Obama, full speed ahead.

If Santorum is attracting Democratic voters who want Santorum to get the nomination because they think Santorum is easier to defeat in November, not so great. I really don’t think Michael Moore is out there encouraging Democrats to vote for Santorum in the primary because he wants Santorum to become president. Moore thinks that if Santorum wins the nomination, Axelrod will just have to send off a billion dollars worth of ads showing Santorum’s more extreme socially conservative positions (birth control is wrong, homosexuality is equivalent to bestiality, we should model our laws on Catholic doctrine) and it will be an Obama landslide. If Santorum is the nominee, I will vote for him, in part because I don’t think there is much he could do as president to promote the extremes of his social agenda. Many others may not feel the same.

talkingpoints on February 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Snyder’s record in Michigan isn’t even remotely relevant. I find it far more telling that he endorsed RINO Romney, which proves that he’s the enemy and just one more guy we need to defeat and purge from the movement.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

OK… the fact that Snyder has turned around the government in Michigan… and endorsed Romney because he thinks he can do the same in Washington… isn’t relevant? What the heck kind of movement do you want? Because it sure isn’t a conservative one.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

So what you’re saying is, you have people on the right, the left, and in the middle eager to defeat Romney?

El_Terrible on February 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Snyder’s record in Michigan isn’t even remotely relevant. I find it far more telling that he endorsed RINO Romney, which proves that he’s the enemy and just one more guy we need to defeat and purge from the movement.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I hope you are “bishing” because if you are serious…

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM

I’m going to say this outright. True Conservatives are selling their souls to the devil in order to break Mitt Romney.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Not the DEVIL! I though only theocrats brought him up.

BakerAllie on February 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Prediction: Scott Walker will lose in Michigan because of these “tru conservatives” class warfare and pro-unions rhetoric.
joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Walker’s Wisconsin

gracie on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

The Some of the Democrats voting for Santorum in the primary are doing so because they know think Obama will beat Santorum in a landslide in November-pulling all the senate and congressional seats with him.

Alma on February 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Fixed that for you.

ITguy on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

It’s one thing to make public appeals to Democrats to vote for you based on your positions or ideology. It’s quite another to try and move under the radar and call all Democrats to come out and vote in a Republican primary just to cause mischief. Motivation is important here and Santorum’s motivation has nothing to do with the November General election. He simply wants to eke out a victory at all costs. With the unions begging their workers in Flint (along with Michael Moore) to vote for Santorum, what other evidence do you need on this site to show you that Santorum would be the weaker candidate in November. All of the polling in Michigan shows that a majority of Republicans are voting for Romney. The sooner this primary business is over, the better for the party. Just think about it, if there is a contested convention in late August and the candidate is not revealed until that time, how is that candidate going to run an election taking into account early voting which starts in some states in early October?. The party better think about moving the convention up to mid July if there is a contested convention.Otherwise, there will be no chance to defeat Obama.

jake22 on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Disgusting. Snyder has turned a huge deficit into a surplus in a year and a half in Michigan. We wouldn’t want Romney to do that, would we? This party and the conservative movement is lost. I used to think I could vote for Santorum, but not now EVER. He’s nothing but a slime bag politician that has never worked in the real world.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

You are correct. Santorum is now ripping on the Republican governor of Michigan who has done a great job in spite of opposition from the Democrats in that state. I hope the real Republican and conservative voters in Michigan can see how badly Santorum wants the most liberal elements in Michigan to come in and crash the Republican primary. Santorum is asking these voters to use him like a cheap whore. They can use him now and then kick him to the curb in November. Fine with him. I have had my problems with Santorum but this is the tipping point. The “man” is a piece of s**t.

kurtd on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

OK… the fact that Snyder has turned around the government in Michigan… and endorsed Romney because he thinks he can do the same in Washington… isn’t relevant? What the heck kind of movement do you want? Because it sure isn’t a conservative one.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Yeah not getting the reasoning there either.

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Boy I miss Rick Perry.

That is all.

gophergirl on February 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Amen to that. I’d much rather see Perry still in this.

Sekhmet on February 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Kinda hard to teach kids or anyone for that matter about moral conduct, right from wrong etc when anyone condones this skullduggery..

Right now as a republican I’m disgusted by this whole thing and see the only winner being Obama.

My wife was and is likley gonna be right, only the republicans of today could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in such an obvious way..

theblacksheepwasright on February 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I thought we needed the Reagan dems Romney bots?

Flapjackmaka on February 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

It has that kind of sense to me, too. The ad doesn’t cross over into the kind of class-warfare attacks leveled by Romney and Newt Gingrich at each other a few weeks ago and pointing out that Romney supported the Wall Street bailout while opposing the auto bailout doesn’t reach that level of Occupy rhetoric …,

Really, Ed? To begin with, Mitt went after Newt for his connection to Fannie and Freddie. That was about being linked to a corrupt organization, and had nothing to do with “class warfare”. But more to the point, you don’t think using sentences like “Romney supported the bailout for his Wall Street billionaire buddies” isn’t “class warfare??? How about referring to “a slap in the face to Michigan workers” and “hard working” Democrats? How do you categorize that?

This entire call is about “class warfare”!

PS: Sanctimonious whiner, Rick Santorum, now calling Romney a “bully” who “whines”.

Buy Danish on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

The point is that many Democrats are voting for the bigot Rick Santorum, not because they like the man, but because they know he would be easy for Obama to beat.

That is why this whole thing is a farce.

Santorum knows it, the unions encouraging Dems to vote for Santorum know it, Obama’s campaign knows it.

Now Rick Santorum is using blatantly misleading robocalls to try to get Democrats to vote for him.

This was a very bad, sleazy move by Rick Santorum.

A Vote for the bigot Rick Santorum in the Primary = A Vote for Obama’s Reelection

bluegill on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Here’s an idea: HOW ABOUT WE HAVE CLOSED FRAKIN’ PRIMARIES?!?!?!?!

Darksean on February 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

That’s what I can’t understand. Why do these 17 states keep their primaries open in the first place?

Bitter Clinger on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Disgusting. Snyder has turned a huge deficit into a surplus in a year and a half in Michigan. We wouldn’t want Romney to do that, would we? This party and the conservative movement is lost. I used to think I could vote for Santorum, but not now EVER. He’s nothing but a slime bag politician that has never worked in the real world.

PKinMI on February 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Notice how he’s not trying to win Dems over for the general, as some are laughingly claiming? That robocall script explicitly tells Dems they can still vote for Obama if they want…right now, though, it’s all about stopping Mitt Romney. Pathetic.

changer1701 on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

One thing that’s likely to be a nice result of this, is that we’ll finally have the primaries be closed like they should have been years ago.

You are the folks who savaged McCain for making GOP primary appeals to unaffiliated voters in open states.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Romney and McCain reaching out to Independents and Democrats = moderate candidates with broad appeal

Santorum reaching out to Independents and Democrats = a filthy evil trick!

I’m going to say this outright. True Conservatives are selling their souls to the devil in order to break Mitt Romney.

KingGold on February 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Santorum reaching out to Independents and Democrats = selling one’s soul to the devil!

I guess you’ll just have to vote Democrat or Ron Paul then, if the Republicans are just too extreme for you.

Doomberg on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

OK… the fact that Snyder has turned around the government in Michigan… and endorsed Romney because he thinks he can do the same in Washington… isn’t relevant? What the heck kind of movement do you want? Because it sure isn’t a conservative one.

I want one where True Conservatives call the shots, not you RINO glibertarian northeasterners. Some parts of this country just need to be ceded to the liberals if we can’t win with real conservative values. Michigan is clearly one of them. As I said before: I don’t care what Snyder’s supposed “record” is, all I know is that he chose sides against conservatism by failing to back Santorum and taking up for the indefensible Romney instead. Same thing goes for Christie: if it takes a Romney supporter to drag that state up from the muck, then it frankly wasn’t worth saving in the first place.

Esoteric on February 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Prediction: Scott Walker will lose in Michigan because of these “tru conservatives” class warfare and pro-unions rhetoric.
joana on February 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM

What a dope you are. Walker is from Wisconsin.

JPeterman on February 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

But more to the point, you don’t think using sentences like “Romney supported the bailout for his Wall Street billionaire buddies” isn’t “class warfare??? How about referring to “a slap in the face to Michigan workers” and “hard working” Democrats? How do you categorize that?

This entire call is about “class warfare”!

PS: Sanctimonious whiner, Rick Santorum, now calling Romney a “bully” who “whines”.

Buy Danish

Nope. because he is writing against Romney. Hence anything is fair game.

Zaggs on February 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

“Why is it so important? (Mitt) Romney supported the bailout for his Wall Street billionaire buddies, but opposed the auto bailout. That was a slap in the face to every Michigan worker. And we’re not going to let Romney get away with it.”

Michelle Bachmann’s Herman Cain’s Rick Perry’s Newt Gingrich’s

Rick Santorum

Because you really can attract the support of leftist garbage, by acting like leftist garbage.

I swear there’s this cadre of Poli Sci retards all named Steve Schmidt, finding new employment with the next flavor of the month, after running the campaign of the last flavor of the month into the ground. Let us know how sucking up to the GM union vote plays out for ya, Rick ole boy.

MNHawk on February 28, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Romney actually once voted for a Democrat.

liberal4life on February 28, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Reagan himself was a Democrat until late in life and probably voted for many Democrats before he was a Republican.

Big Deal…

SauerKraut537 on February 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM

This entire call is about “class warfare”!

PS: Sanctimonious whiner, Rick Santorum, now calling Romney a “bully” who “whines”.

Buy Danish on February 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Yes, and it is part of a pattern on Rick Santorum’s part. It goes along with how Santorum dishonestly claimed that he had to pay twice as much in taxes as the rich Mitt Romney.

bluegill on February 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM

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