Comments on: Report: Parts of 9/11 victims’ remains ended up in a landfill

By: roux

roux — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:30:58 +0000

So what……

By: zoyclem

zoyclem — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:22:18 +0000

Everything posted at ho[t]air, save for humping robots, has an agenda.

keep the change on February 28, 2012 at 5:15 PM

And you don’t have an agenda?

By: Sonosam

Sonosam — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:56:35 +0000

They should allow the upset family members go to an AF base and launch a missile at a muzzo country of their choice

The apes sure are lucky that the most advanced don’t act like them

They would be extinct

By: Sonosam

Sonosam — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:49:28 +0000

It is unfortunate but I will place the blame on the dirty effing muzzos and their death cult

So I have no problem with aggrieved families burning down a mosk or two, maybe massacring a few

Judging by the actions of the muzzos worldwide they should have no problem with this since it is retaliation for murder which is worse than burning a porno

By: Wine_N_Dine

Wine_N_Dine — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 03:25:05 +0000

I’m much more concerned that we may soon be providing air cover for Al Queda (or however you spell the name of that latent homosexual death cult) then whether or not a tiny bit of my cousin may have ended up in a landfill.

We are bigger than this people. Let the muslims piss and moan about imagined slights to their delicate sensibilities. A huge effort was made to provide dignity to the remains of these people.

By: cmsciulli

cmsciulli — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:14:23 +0000

The Somerset County Coroner denies claims made in the report:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12059/1213205-455.stm

“Mr. Miller oversaw the retrieval, identification, storage and return of all human remains from the Flight 93 crash site in Stonycreek Township near Shanksville on Sept. 11, 2001. All identified remains of passengers and crew were returned to the families, he said, and those that could not be identified were put in three caskets and buried on Sept. 12, 2011 at the Flight 93 National Memorial.”

By: AlexJ

AlexJ — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:49:37 +0000

The mistakes made were unintentional.

The remains were cremated. I assume this means handled with dignity, although the artical doen’t say. Not sure how I feel about this. I think there may be more details we are not privy to.

Just so you know. The remains of my brother,a 6′ white male of east european Jewish heritage were misidentified as a female hispanic, were sent to the county incinerator with the days road kill. We found out 12 years later. His killer walks among us.

It’s OK though. It was unintentional.

By: Scopper

Scopper — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:38:44 +0000

I am all for treating the human remains with respect. But as I have read on Dear Abby many times, funerals (and by extention, the respectful treatment of remains) are for the living. Yes, lets show respect for the dead. Yes, lets spend money to bring our dead soldiers home and bury them with honor. But lets not overblow it either, Tina. My life is sacred. My soul is sacred. But I won’t complain if my remains end up a pile of ash in a landfill. I’ll have better things to be doing in the Afterlife.

By: tjexcite

tjexcite — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:32:25 +0000

In many years to come they will still find bits of bone in many hidden places in NYC that people did not think could have had things in.

At least they got all who died in Iraq back and identified with no forever MIA. They can’t say that about Vietnam.

By: Waggoner

Waggoner — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:28:18 +0000

For weeks after the attacks, workers were combing through the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island, where the material cleared from Ground Zero was taken, for human remains. They found a lot of them, but many remains are probably still there. This story isn’t good news, but what’s really important is the heinous actions that led to the deaths of these people and stopping those who would love to hit us like that again.

By: logis

logis — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:14:37 +0000

Can we riot? I wanna riot. Deafdog on February 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Who doesn't? But no. Turns out that these were only human bodies. So, no. It treating them with disrespect doesn't meet the media standard for justifying murderous rampages.

By: Deanna

Deanna — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:59:52 +0000

While I certainly don’t agree with the idea of putting them in a landfill, I think most people don’t realize what does happen at a cremation.
I know that what is left of an entire body after cremation is very small, usually less than 6 pounds. What is left of the cremated body is some bone fragments which are run through a pulverizer to grind them to ash, the rest has gone up in heat/smoke/vapor into the air. I would assume this was done at the first cremation and then they did the second incineration.
I know people who do cremations and they will admit they can’t guarantee all the remains make it to the funeral because of the size of the particles, and that most likely a very small part of someone’s remains are left in the crematory. But they do the best they can. If they do find anything such as missed metal from a ring they may bury these mixed remains in a cemetery. When the lining bricks are replaced periodically in the crematory though I wonder what is done with those?

By: JannyMae

JannyMae — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:58:30 +0000

Sorry, but I fail to see what is “disgraceful” here.

By: KOOLAID2

KOOLAID2 — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:57:47 +0000

I am not outraged by this, there is no harm meant, nor disrespect.
ted c on February 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM
Yes, this was a very sad mistake but it certainly doesn’t sound as if disrespect was some kind of a driving force behind it.

whatcat on February 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Ditto.

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:55:32 +0000

And probably a few scraps of a Koran or two, also.

Who’s running things so frikkin’ carelessly?

By: Kermit

Kermit — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:52:13 +0000

Blake on February 28, 2012 at 5:45 PM

oceansidecon on February 28, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Every last piece of debris from WTC was mechanically sifted and picked through in a 7 month period of time. At first it was under the jurisdiction and oversight of NY Harbor and Terminal District/State of NY until the Feds started paying the bills then the FBI took over. It was still the same contractor who performed the work, Garner Environmental, Deer Park, TX (they got the work because they had responded to several situations in NYC faster than locals had in the past).

By: ellifint

ellifint — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:51:03 +0000

Don’t think many people are casting aspersions on those who recovered remains…I don’t think those people were the ones who made the decision to throw human remains in landfills. That’s the issue. As Soulglo said above, why not a cemetery?? No one would think that there is any conceivable way, at this point, to identify remains, and further, no one expected every speck to be recovered from the site. We all know how devastating the attacks were on human bodies. Again, there’s a middle ground here, between just basically throwing human remains away in the dump, and running DNA tests on such small fragments to try to identify them.

By: Blake

Blake — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:45:46 +0000

What do people think happens to all the bits and pieces of flesh, fat, bone, etc, removed during an operation?

By: oceansidecon

oceansidecon — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:37:05 +0000

As someone who was at the Pentagon everyday working on the Recovery and Reconstruction, I can tell you that there would have been no way to recover every piece of human remains. The debris was piled as far as they eye could see in North Parking. Cadaver dogs (I naively thought they were bomb sniffing dogs until I found out what they were really doing. The dogs and handlers walked the piles (and the crash site) for weeks…until the area was turned over to the Renovation Office from FBI custody. The rubble was still smouldering for days after…filled with concrete, wood, furniture…everything imaginable.
To say that those working in the Recovery did not do everything in their power to respectively collect and document every piece of human remains is dishonest.

By: catmman

catmman — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:35:30 +0000

Just think of the outrage if this were Qurans…

By: canopfor

canopfor — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:30:55 +0000

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/83091252/Dover-911-Victims-Report

By: whatcat

whatcat — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:30:25 +0000

I am not outraged by this, there is no harm meant, nor disrespect.
ted c on February 28, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Yes, this was a very sad mistake but it certainly doesn’t sound as if disrespect was some kind of a driving force behind it.

By: moochy

moochy — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:30:23 +0000

It’s what’s left after the good part is gone to be with G-d.

Leave it alone. It doesn’t matter.

Hint: From ashes to ashes and from dust to dust. Read about it.

By: SoulGlo

SoulGlo — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:27:24 +0000

Is it really that hard to put remains in a cemetery? Come on. This is just common sense. Put the remains in a cemetery. And then you can make a big plaque saying “Unknown Soldiers” or “Unknown 9/11 Victims”. It really makes me mad that these people can’t figure this stuff out.

By: bw222

bw222 — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:23:54 +0000

I say this as an Air Force veteran. Once you get away from SAC and other flying units, the Air Force is by far the most screwed-up branch of our military.