Journal defends its publication of an article advocating “after-birth abortion”
posted at 6:35 pm on February 28, 2012 by Tina Korbe
The editor of the Journal of Medical Ethics today defended his decision to publish an article in which two ethicists advocated “after-birth abortion.” What was truly surprising about the article, editor Julian Savulescu writes, is not that the authors find infanticide morally permissible — but, rather, that opponents to infanticide would react to the article with vehemence. From Savulescu’s defense:
What is disturbing is not the arguments in this paper nor its publication in an ethics journal. It is the hostile, abusive, threatening responses that it has elicited. More than ever, proper academic discussion and freedom are under threat from fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society.
What the response to this article reveals, through the microscope of the web, is the deep disorder of the modern world. Not that people would give arguments in favour of infanticide, but the deep opposition that exists now to liberal values and fanatical opposition to any kind of reasoned engagement.
Savulescu might have a point that some of the responses to the article crossed the line. Of those he quoted, a couple were overtly racist and at least one was an outright death threat to anyone who would willingly perform an “after-birth abortion.” But that he doesn’t see the arguments forwarded by the authors as evidence of “the deep disorder of the modern world” is far more disturbing than comments thoughtlessly dashed off by justifiably outraged opponents of infanticide. The Blaze outlines the article’s original arguments:
The authors go on to state that the moral status of a newborn is equivalent to a fetus in that it cannot be considered a person in the “morally relevant sense.” On this point, the authors write:
“Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’. We take ‘person’ to mean an individual who is capable of attributing to her own existence some (at least) basic value such that being deprived of this existence represents a loss to her.
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Merely being human is not in itself a reason for ascribing someone a right to life. Indeed, many humans are not considered subjects of a right to life: spare embryos where research on embryo stem cells is permitted, fetuses where abortion is permitted, criminals where capital punishment is legal.”
Giubilini and Minerva believe that being able to understand the value of a different situation, which often depends on mental development, determines personhood. For example, being able to tell the difference between an undesirable situation and a desirable one. They note that fetuses and newborns are “potential persons.” The authors do acknowledge that a mother, who they cite as an example of a true person, can attribute “subjective” moral rights to the fetus or newborn, but they state this is only a projected moral status.
Once upon a time, abortion advocates would accuse pro-lifers of “slippery slope logic” when those pro-lifers suggested it was only a matter of time before someone would use the abortion advocates’ arguments to defend infanticide. According to Savulescu, that began to happen a long time ago — and it continues to happen today. Turns out, it is a slippery slope, after all. If humans don’t have a right to life from the moment of conception, when does the right to life kick in? The moment a human becomes a person? When is that? Who determines when? The standard becomes movable — and, consequently, impossible to uphold.
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INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Yes..long time ago.
Was a big story here..locally.
Yeah.. understatement. :(
bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Trolls shown up yet?
annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM
You’re welcome.
I have another quote for you. I think I got this one from the Priests For Life site.
Now with Gosnell, they have no answer. Jill Stanek has been writing this year about the increasing demoralization of abortionists. That’s how much they care about making abortion “rare”—they get down about it.
INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Just you…
cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Just you…
cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
I opened THAT door up, didn’t I.
annoyinglittletwerp on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
And
walkedran right into it.cozmo on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM
I bet they hate the ability to change your profile picture to your ultrasound picture on Facebook.
cptacek on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
William Saletan of Slate wrote an article in 2007 on the impact of technology on abortion: “The fetus is squirming, and so are we.”
Yeah, they hate it.
INC on May 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM
9 of 12 Jurors in #Gosnell Trial Are ‘Pro-Choice’ http://ow.ly/kZwUn
Resist We Much on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Somebody ask for Humpbot?
http://tinyurl.com/humpgos
jmad on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM
I didn’t know that. Was that when they were being asked questions prior to being seated for the trial?
So only one is pro-life? That’s remarkable.
I wonder what they all think now.
INC on May 13, 2013 at 6:07 PM
bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM
I agree with you … and a year or 2 ago I would agree with you.
and I feel the Bible supports this because as was pointed out…
an image bearer of GOD was murdered.
but then the cold eyed accountant shows up …
paying X amount for appeals x number of years …
*sigh* …. but I agree it meets the criteria IMHO
to be a DP award ….
conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Seriously?!?!?!
ladyingray on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Even if given the death penalty, he won’t die from it. Take life without parole in general population.
He’s WANTING the death penalty at this point….
ladyingray on May 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM
I’m wondering how many other denizens of abortion clinics are closely watching this unfold. I also wonder what their pucker factor is right about now.
Oldnuke on May 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM
The one image that comes to mind is the scene in the movie “Ghost”. The bad guy dies at the end, and the black shadows come to get him, and drag him away.
I hope when they come for Gosnell, he goes kicking and screaming, and has to run the gauntlet of the faces of every baby he ever butchered…all the way to Hell!
grumpy_old_soldier on May 13, 2013 at 6:26 PM
His lawyer is a piece of work.
What media was that?
Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM
yup .. and then at the great white throne … he is brought before the King of Kings and is tried … every baby he butchered is there and testifies against him …
he is judged by his works as everything is written down … then the lambs book is opened and his name is not written down … and at this point the King of Kings pronounces sentence “depart from me into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”
at this point he is picked up and cast into the lake of fire.
conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Which tells you how truly ugly this was that even believers couldn’t turn away.
kim roy on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 PM
oh come now … the throngs of reporters and tv and radio types down there
standing room only in the press area .. /s
conservative tarheel on May 13, 2013 at 6:41 PM
PP is just as guilty as Gosnell. More guilty in fact, they have far more innocent baby blood on their hands.
Kjeil on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM
Silly ‘social conservatives’ ruining the party with their defense of the unborn. How many more babies do you want to save at the expense of the party!?eleventyone1one1!
LaughterJones on May 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM
It’s a hollow statement by the leading, government authorized death camp in the USA.
You get to have freedoms in the USA! Just have to make it out of the womb first!
LaughterJones on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
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Why do I always miss the good stuff, in real time ?
listens2glenn on May 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM
Ok, now that the trial is over, will the Exalted One comment on it?
And will anyone in the media have the temerity to actually ask him to go on record?
Forgive me. I’ve been watching political movies, where these things actually happen…
Chris of Rights on May 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM
May they now Rest in Peace
txmomof6 on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM
Another 3,288 today, and every day in the USA.
slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM
Wow, can’t even bring themselves to mention the babies.
Dongemaharu on May 13, 2013 at 9:15 PM
If the bill Obama sponsored in the Illinois legislature had passed in Pennsylvania, would Gosnell have been convicted?
As I recall, Obama wanted to decriminalize killing a baby after a botched abortion.
jya lai on May 14, 2013 at 10:54 AM
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