Catholic bishop warns HHS mandate will mean an end to Catholic hospitals, clinics, charities
posted at 12:10 pm on February 27, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Will Catholic bishops eventually drop their objections to the HHS mandate and comply, even though it would require them to fund and facilitate access to contraception, sterilization, and abortifacients like IUDs and “ella” that violate their deeply-held doctrines on the sanctity of life? Not according to Francis Cardinal George, archbishop of Barack Obama’s home town of Chicago. In a missive to parishioners on the first Sunday of Lent, Cardinal George warns that the Catholic Church will shut down its hospitals, clinics, and charities before submitting to the mandate — and provides a little history lesson as well:
What will happen if the HHS regulations are not rescinded? A Catholic institution, so far as I can see right now, will have one of four choices: 1) secularize itself, breaking its connection to the church, her moral and social teachings and the oversight of its ministry by the local bishop. This is a form of theft. It means the church will not be permitted to have an institutional voice in public life. 2) Pay exorbitant annual fines to avoid paying for insurance policies that cover abortifacient drugs, artificial contraception and sterilization. This is not economically sustainable. 3) Sell the institution to a non-Catholic group or to a local government. 4) Close down. …
Since 1915, the Catholic bishops of the United States have taught that basic health care should be accessible to all in a just society. Two years ago, we asked that whatever instruments were crafted to care for all, the Hyde and Weldon and Church amendments restricting funding for abortion and respecting institutional conscience continue to be incorporated into law. They were excluded. As well, the present health care reform act doesn’t cover entire sections of the U.S. population. It is not universal.
The provision of health care should not demand “giving up” religious liberty. Liberty of religion is more than freedom of worship. Freedom of worship was guaranteed in the Constitution of the former Soviet Union. You could go to church, if you could find one. The church, however, could do nothing except conduct religious rites in places of worship-no schools, religious publications, health care institutions, organized charity, ministry for justice and the works of mercy that flow naturally from a living faith. All of these were co-opted by the government. We fought a long cold war to defeat that vision of society.
The strangest accusation in this manipulated public discussion has the bishops not respecting the separation between church and state. The bishops would love to have the separation between church and state we thought we enjoyed just a few months ago, when we were free to run Catholic institutions in conformity with the demands of the Catholic faith, when the government couldn’t tell us which of our ministries are Catholic and which not, when the law protected rather than crushed conscience. The state is making itself into a church. The bishops didn’t begin this dismaying conflict nor choose its timing. We would love to have it ended as quickly as possible. It’s up to the government to stop the attack.
Insofar as advocates of the mandate insist that Catholic bishops are out of touch with their own congregations, Cardinal George exposes this as a big non-sequitur:
Practically, we’re told that the majority of Catholics use artificial contraception. There are properly medical reasons, in some circumstances, for the use of contraceptive pills, as everyone knows. But even if contraceptives were used by a majority of couples only and exclusively to suppress a possible pregnancy, behavior doesn’t determine morality. If it can be shown that a majority of Catholic students cheat on their exams, it is still wrong to cheat on exams. Trimming morality to how we behave guts the Gospel call to conversion of life and rejection of sin.
Theoretically, it is argued that there are Catholic voices that disagree with the teaching of the church and therefore with the bishops. There have always been those whose personal faith is not adequate to the faith of the church. Perhaps this is the time for everyone to re-read the Acts of the Apostles. Bishops are the successors of the apostles; they collectively receive the authority to teach and govern that Christ bestowed upon the apostles. Bishops don’t claim to speak for every baptized Catholic. Bishops speak, rather, for the Catholic and apostolic faith. Those who hold that faith gather with them; others go their own way. They are and should be free to do so, but they deceive themselves and others in calling their organizations Catholic.
Although Cardinal George doesn’t spell this out, this is the crux of the difference between the church and the Obama administration. Membership in the Catholic Church is voluntary, as is employment in their extended organizations like schools, hospitals, and the like. If people don’t like the teachings of the church or want to work for an employer willing to give them contraception at no expense, they are free to seek those associations as they like. Obama and his HHS want to force Catholic organizations to accept the administration doctrine on contraception, sterilization, and abortifacients, and force Catholic organizations to fund and facilitate access to them — by declaring which organizations the church runs to be authentically religious and which are not, an arrogance without precedent in the US, although certainly precedents in other political models abound, as Cardinal George points out.
The church may have to demonstrate the proper jurisdiction for that designation, George warns, if the government insists on forcing religious organizations to violate their own principles:
If you haven’t already purchased the Archdiocesan Directory for 2012, I would suggest you get one as a souvenir. On page L-3, there is a complete list of Catholic hospitals and health care institutions in Cook and Lake counties. Each entry represents much sacrifice on the part of medical personnel, administrators and religious sponsors. Each name signifies the love of Christ to people of all classes and races and religions. Two Lents from now, unless something changes, that page will be blank.
Catholics may be giving up some luxuries for Lent, but the bishops aren’t giving up this fight. They seem ready to make this a weekly battle with the Obama administration, and willing to escalate it to the point of closing doors and stopping services, a move that will make the issue acute in many of the areas where Obama normally would draw his most fervent support.
Update: A lot of people in the comments and on Twitter think that closing the Catholic institutions is what Obama has in mind, in order to make people more dependent on government. Possibly, but the outcome will mean skyrocketing spending and angering a lot of people who will find out just how limited government intervention actually is. Sounds like one of those ivory-tower solutions that always succeed in theory … kind of like Obamanomics.
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Where’s brainfreeordie? He was all hot bothered by this huge Republican deception. The purfesurs students are so screwed.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Divert, distract, redirect blame, admit nothing.
Next.
fogw on May 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Jazz:
Is this the additional story you promised in the WH word of the day thread?
They are doing this on purpose. They know if they can bog this down into interpretations of e-mails the vast majority of the public will stop paying attention.
It’s a strategy, and possibly a good one for the WH.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Say anything, whatever it takes. The MSM will cover for you.
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I wont even make a comment about Steve Hayes because he is nothing but a partisan hack. That being said Jazz, don’t tell me you are now lending credibility to Jon Karl. Same Jon Karl who is now apologizing all over the place for taking the republican doctored emails as fact? Thought you were better than that Jazz.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Go away HotAirNazi. Nobody cares what you think.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Where are the other three days worth of emails?
Lost in Jersey on May 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
The Law is Irrelevant…
I don’t know…
I didn’t say that…
We need to focus on preventing this in the future…not looking at the past…
Political Sideshows…
What difference does it make…
The Executive Branch is being run by 7th graders.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Actually, by 7th grade students are taught to respect our system of government.
These criminals hate our Bill of Rights.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Even I never thought they would sink this low. Of course, I also thought he was going to create jobs for blacks after paying off all the typical crooks and Democrat open hands in the last administration. Oh, well..despair.
See the old Dead Parrot skit by Monte Python and any of about 200 skits on SNL.
This technique is a straw. You know, find anything the other side did wrong (even if they didn’t) to give your minions some cover. well..look! They had that fact all wrong! Well, they are messed up!
Now let us get to important things like all the jobs we don’t have. I wonder how many blacks at his speech know what a putz this man has been for them.
It is a smaller, oblique version of the “When I am hit, I just hit back harder.” credo of Hillary Clinton as written in earlier books about her.
They hope nobody notices that no counter punch was thrown or even contemplated at the terrorists after killing the four.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Keeping everything politically polarizing and blaming that politicization on the opposition to confuse the citizenry…classic mob enticement to mayhem.
These progressive hacks are playing a dangerous game here…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Elect a person with no military background..
No executive experience..
But tons of experience at deceit and lying…
And what do you get?
President Milhous Obama.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM
I don’t know what I was thinking. We all know what a bunch of Right wing hacks ABC news hires…
Jazz Shaw on May 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Anonymous Cincinnati IRS official: “Everything comes from the top.”
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Republicans doctoring documents?
Call Dan Rather!
I think we need a TANG style letter on where the POTUS was that night.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM
That is why Levin is better than Rushbo.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Undergoing extensive refurbishing.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 5:24 PM
And Levin had been calling Obama this before the 2008 elections since using Obama’s middle name back then was…well..not polite.
Levin nailed it 5 years ago.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM
It seems as if the trolls have gone to ground after this last week. I guess they are hoping the Sunday chat factory will give them enough coverage that they can again assert that right-wing victims of the IRS are just being oversensitive.
My take, for what it is worth. The left’s attack on tax exempt status was a huge blow for the leftists. Nothing hits home more than taxes and when you have an ideologically driven IRS that is punishing some groups and rewarding others for their views- not even a troll can call that fair or is willing to defend it.
Happy Nomad on May 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Yes, did anyone ask him that?
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
” As NewsBusters reported two weeks ago, CBS’s Bob Schieffer is fed up with the White House’s talking points concerning what happened at our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, last September.
His impatience continued on Sunday’s Face the Nation when Obama senior advisor Dan Pfeiffer gave stock answers to questions about the three crises facing the President leading Schieffer to first accuse his guest of taking “exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took” and finally scolding him by asking, “Why are you here today? Why isn’t the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/19/schieffer-obama-advisor-why-are-you-here-why-isn-t-white-house-chief#ixzz2TmBRPRKj
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The Brown Shirt speaks.
Fascists only know how to propagate lies and propaganda.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
It’s like there is a bank robbery and the police only get the video starting 3 days later.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The Rat-Eared Bastard was giving a recital at Morehouse, isn’t that where he ‘works’ or nearby? I’m sure he would do whatever required to get into that audience. It would be like the Beatles landing at La Guardia in 1964 there.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
But the MSM and O camp have already won this round.
Yahoo linked the article titled So Who Doctored Benghazi Emails?, and though the article did not really pointed out or proved that Republicans did, the sheep were impressed that Republicans did.
vnohara on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Thread winner.
rogerb on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
**BOOM** Headshot.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Steve Hayes is definitely a right wing hack who is only relevant to the fox news crowd. Jon Karl on the other hand is now a discredited journalist.
Everyone knew the republicans had more than enough time to review the emails when the administration released them a few months ago. He should have known he was being played by the republican conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Just like a snake.
GarandFan on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
When you claim the same for the still missing three days of e-mails, I might lend you some credibility.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Same reason Rice went on the Sunday TV circuit re Benghazi instead of Billary?
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Heh…Very Old Bob scores…
“After Pfeiffer continued with evasive talking points, Schieffer again scolded:
SCHIEFFER: But Mr. Pfeiffer, and I don’t mean to be argumentative here, but the President is in charge of the executive branch of the government. It’s my, I’ll just make this as an assertion: when the executive branch does things right, there doesn’t seem to be any hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that. When Osama bin Laden was killed, the President didn’t waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.
But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don’t even seem to know what has happened. And I use as an example of that Susan Rice who had no connection whatsoever to the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast, and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happens, and I’m not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that. The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.
Pfeiffer once again stuck with the Administration line leading Schieffer to further push back:
But what I’m saying to you is that was just PR. That was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn’t know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn’t the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if he knew nothing say, “We don’t know yet?” Why didn’t the White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this as no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn’t the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/19/schieffer-obama-advisor-why-are-you-here-why-isn-t-white-house-chief#ixzz2TmCZMUVM
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
So do we know WHO ordered the stand- down yet ?
burrata on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
That’s his MO. He calls everyone a right wing hack that promotes an uncomfortable truth. When Hicks testified before Congress on Benghazi he said that 3 or 4 times in a single thread about Hicks, a career State Department employee who has donated to Democratic candidates.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
The WH can quickly discredit them, then.
All they have to do is release all 25,000 or so e-mails relating to Benghazi and you will have your proof right out in the open.
As it is we are 24,900 some odd short.
I’m more than willing to wait for those to be released.
Are you?
ajacksonian on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
The emails were not released a few months ago Mr. Brown Shirt. They were allowed to be viewed for a short period of time without cameras present. More propaganda from a fascist.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Concur. I imagine that little tidbit will see a lot of play around here in the near future.
Left Coast Right Mind on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
It does not mater it is out there that the e-mails where doctored even if they where not. The smear is already done and the truth can say in bed.
tjexcite on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
I expect Bob Schieffer will get audited soon…or maybe Holder will put beastie porn on his computer…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Nixon: 18 1/2 minutes
Obama: 3 days of emails
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
If take all the LSM at face value..
Benghazi is the new norm..
And if you question it..
You are labeled a tea bagger and may show up on some radar at the IRS.
Live and let live..
Unless they die..
Then you turn the other way and hug an Obama Thumper..
I think this about right..
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Of course it does…Now he needs to have the B*lls to testify under oath before congress.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Fixed!
Now, to today’s new CNN “Poll”…
Now wipe you chin off and readjust your O’bama Kneepads. Goebbels awaits!
F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Cruz missile: http://twitchy.com/2013/05/18/sen-ted-cruz-leads-call-to-abolish-irs-in-wake-of-targeting-scandal/
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Same GOP who are yet to see an event they wont politicize Jazz? Come on man… Believing this is believing Obama was actually outraged the IRS targeted those tea party fraudulent groups. A targeting strategy i am 100% for.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM
59% of the public are Republican/right wing/political hacks!
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:40 PM
God Bless Texas!
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:41 PM
You should be outraged that the IRS wasted so much energy on non-job producing Tea Party Groups..
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
No. Because I don’t care what your party thinks about said emails. There is never going to be enough emails for you conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Man, fascists are funny. Demonstrating incredible hypocrisy and fascist tendencies in only 3 sentences.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Yes, silence those who don’t agree with you and yet come here where we let you speak. You are digusting.
BeachBum on May 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Conspiracy theorists
right wing hacks
its like a Debbie Wasserman-Fluketalking points machine.
tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
wiki, on Hayes:
Can you give us some credible, multi-sourced examples of Hayes “lying” in any of his work? Was he also a “right wing hack” for being critical of Chimpy Bush for not doing more about North Korea, or for his spending like a drunken sailor as President?
As for Karl, who exactly took away his journalistic credits? Has he been taken off the air?
F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Can’t believe no one has made a “fake but accurate” joke yet.
tneloms on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Conspiracy theorists
right wing hacks
It’s like a Debbie Wasserman-Fluke talking points machine.
tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Nixon: 18 1/2 minutes
Obama: 2400 emails and 3 days of Teleconferences between Benghazi,State,WH,DOD,CIA,DOJ and 4 dead,unknown injured.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Good to know the Democrat party supports “separate but equal” as they always have.
The Bull Connor / George Wallace Democrat party is back.
They don’t support equal protection under the law.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
And going on and on about how Republicans politicize everything while he supports the politicizing of an entire government agency.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
I commented when I heard Pfieffer say it this morning that he was lying. They (Ø administration) really expect to get away with it, feel entitled to lie as usual and have the media cover it up for them. Nobody in the real world likes Mean Girls.
ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Obama-the-Marines-and-an-umbrella.jpg
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
HAL is definitely off his meds today.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 5:47 PM
He’s not off his meds, he’s a straight up fascist. Just be glad he is too cowardly to act on his own.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
1. Bush paid the Supreme Court to make him President.
2. Bush knew about 9/11 in advance and let it happen, so he and Cheney could invade Iraq for its oil.
3. Bush would use the Iraq War as an excuse to postpone, or completely call off, the 2004 election.
4. Bush would use the Democrat-created 2007 mortgage meltdown as an excuse to postpone, or completely call off, the 2008 election.
5. F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Or maybe truth is exceeding their effective limit.
Time will tell just how far these several scandals go, how deep and far-ranging they are. Who knows what else might be uncovered in other agencies?
Liam on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
LOL! Really? Not any more.
bgibbs1000 on May 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
No one in Congress had the emails nor could they have ‘doctored’ them. The White House permitted members of various Congressional committee to review the emails.
If anyone had had the emails, there would have been NO reason for people like David Axelrod to call for their release.
BOTTOM LINE:
Hillary Clinton was told at 8:00 PM on 09.11.12 by those on the ground that there had never been a protest about ANYTHING and the attack was a terrorist attack.
Both The CIA station chief in Libya and Beth Jones, acting assistant secretary for Near Eastern affairs at the State Department, said on 09.12.12 that it WAS a terrorist attack by AQ, the AQ-affiliated group, Ansar al-Sharia, and that no video protest occurred whatsoever.
09.12.12 @04:07 (09.11.12 @10:07 PM EST): Secretary Clinton issued a statement acknowledging the death of one State Dept. officer, Sean Smith, and blames Internet video for violence. It included:
09.13.12: Carney blamed Internet video for violence.
09.14.12: Carney: No advance warning of attack. No evidence that the attack was preplanned.
Lie. They were warned by the Libyan mission, Ambassador Stevens, and the CIA.
09.15.12: Obama blames video for violence in his weekly radio address.
09.16.12: Ambassador Susan Rice appears on 5 Sunday news shows and blames the video. One example from ABC News’ ‘This Week With George Stephanopoulis’:
Lie.
On Face the Nation:
Lie. Yes, they did.
09.18.12: Carney again blames video for violence.
Untrue.
09.20.12: Obama again blames video for violence at townhall event broadcast on Univision:
09.21 .12: Obama and Clinton appear in ads on Pakistani television condemning the YouTube video at a cost of $70,000.
09.24.12: On ‘The View,’ Obama says investigation ongoing, again blames video.
09.25.12: Obama speech to UN blames video, refers to video 6 times, terror only once relative to Iran.
10.18.12: Obama:
Lie.
11.28.12: Carney says that the ONLY change that the White House and State Department made to talking points was to change ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic mission.”
Lie.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Even after he attacked me on the Media thread, I was trying to be nice. By the way, nice work with the Kos reject on the other thread.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Does have thread have to be fumigated now?
BLECH
gophergirl on May 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM
I have no known party.
I have floated no conspiracy theories.
I have grave suspicions about what went on in Benghazi based upon personnel, weapons gone missing, weapons transfers, Amb. Stevens’ foreign contacts, and the relatively low key CIA and MI-6 operations that were going on there at the time. There is much that cannot be explained and those e-mails play only a part in filling in the picture.
Human nature puts the WH in a defensive position to put out anything exonerating first so as to try and minimize the scandal. Less than 100 e-mails does not explain the problems in any of the time lines floated by the WH as they do not correspond with events on the ground as reported by multiple sources at the time and since then.
You may believe as you will.
I will wait for facts and examine the time line on my own and see if it makes any sense to me in any context partisan or non-partisan. Often no single party holds the actual information as to what exactly happened, and the picture must be built up from multiple sources and deconflicted. That takes time and until a much larger set of e-mails the WH is only prolonging the inevitable. The WH would look much, much better now to just release the mass of e-mails and say that they are what they are.
If you are right that would show up partisan hacks in clear and stark light.
If I am right it will paint a much more complete picture of the time line of events and sort out what happened, why it happened and how it transpired beyond the attack event and give broader insight into the affairs of Libya and the Middle East. I don’t want any Administration to EVER make this sort of mistake again as it costs lives of good people. I am sorry all you can do is attack others even those just willing to wait to see what the truth actually is without the need for belief.
ajacksonian on May 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM
Thank you.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
I don’t smell that bad.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
No, little fascist. You are for PROFILING.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM
You and I know there is never going to be enough emails. He has given you all he wants to give you. Anything outside of what he has provided is just feeding into the right wing playbook.
Take it or leave it GOP. Better, continue whining about irrelevant emails while Americans focus on better things that help improve their lives.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM
LMFAO! That’s kind of the point moron. The president serves us, not the other way round. Release all the damn emails.
From Del above:
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Why don’t you just STFU, after all that’s what you want Us to do.
BeachBum on May 19, 2013 at 6:00 PM
By Wednesday it will be: “Stevens isn’t actually dead, you reichwing freaks, he’s just taking a very long nap!”
Your day is coming, liberal fascist trash, you would be wise to prepare.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
And, that only means he has something to hide. If he didn’t, he’d release everything and shut those dastardly Republicans up.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Christopher Stevens’s life isn’t better. He and the other dead Americans deserve the truth.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
lolol. The “I will crawl over broken glass to vote for loser Romney;but hey I am still an independent librarian” chick speaketh.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
No. Because I don’t care what your party thinks about said emails. There is never going to be enough emails for you conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
“But it was alright, everything was alright, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
EBTs and Dead Americans..
A winning plan.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM
Way past time for HA commenters to extend the same courtesy to the partisan hack who posted this.
de rigueur on May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM
Once again, today’s CNN “poll” shows that Americans are now paying attention to this Fake Scandal:
Keep your getalife in the sand, HAL.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I said that I would crawl over broken glass to vote AGAINST Obama.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Too bad the only thing your party can do about it is continue singing the same song to the conspiracy right wingers and also holding votes to repeal Obamacare.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM
“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
What will your limp talking points be if all of the e-mails are legally subpoenaed? Will your Dear Leader be Above the Law then too?
(Starts Sundial #247)
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
So is
” depraved indifference to 4 human lives ”
a crime for which someone can be prosecuted ?
If yes, what are we waiting for ?
burrata on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Hold on now, we still don’t know who might have helped the Boston Hat Bombers.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM
You are the one whining about paying for the Obamaphones and EBTs you know. Crazy thing is you continue paying for them even though you hate them so much. Must really hurt.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM
Edited for accuracy.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM
How far and deep do these scandals go? Trust me as much as I can when I say, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet! :)
You should know that ‘being nice’ doesn’t work on arrogant, merciless, and hypocritical people like Shallow HAL…
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Makes a person feel all warm and safe reading something like this.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Dr. Obama’s new practice.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
I honestly think it’s too stupid to even know what a subpoena is.
If the teevee tells it that Mr. Obama says it’s bad it must be bad so it yells.
That is the level of “thing” we are dealing with.
These things don’t believe in laws or history.
Only their god Obama.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Weird. I didn’t know the Independent-libertarian party had control over any branch of government.
You’re such a little fascist, princess.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
“Don’t you see the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the language of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible because there will be no words in which to express it” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM
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