Poll: Majority of Americans say border control is more important to immigration reform

posted at 7:40 pm on February 23, 2012 by Tina Korbe

While President Barack Obama attempts to convince Latino voters that he’d make good on his promise of immigration reform in his second term and while Congress prepares to investigate the constitutionality of state-level anti-illegal-immigration laws, the American people proclaim that their top immigration-related priority is still to secure the border:

Voters continue to name border control as the more important issue in immigration reform, but they also still support a welcoming immigration policy.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59 percent of likely U.S. voters think when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of illegal immigrants who are already in this country. That’s down two points from last month but in line with findings on the question since February 2007.

Thirty-four percent (34%) of voters think it is more important to legalize the status of undocumented workers already living here, unchanged from last month.

Michael Scherer argues in this month’s Time cover story that Latinos will pick the next president. That doesn’t seem like such a stretch. Given that, it’s hard not to think that immigration might be the single issue Republicans are least prepared to address in the general election — not because Obama has a better message on it, but because nobody has an adequate response to the issue. Now’s the time for all the GOP candidates to refocus their immigration message on border control. If they want to broaden the discussion from border control to immigration reform, then they need to brush up on a few facts. Illegal immigration isn’t the only problem with our immigration system; we’re also plagued with an outdated quota system and a lack of a national consensus about what kind of immigrants we want to attract to this country. Many of our hard-working, family-oriented southern neighbors who still believe in the American Dream and want to create a better future for their children are precisely the sort of immigrants for whom we should want to ease the process to come here legally in the first place.


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No duh.

cane_loader on February 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Congress? What congress?

they lie on February 23, 2012 at 7:45 PM

And the majority of firefighters agree that it’s better to put out the house fire before sending in the fire inspector.

cane_loader on February 23, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Michael Scherer argues in this month’s Time cover story that Latinos will pick the next president.

Well, I guess white voters should just stay home then.

sartana on February 23, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Here are American priorities — the ONLY poll to ever offer all the choices.

Open borders folks have ALWAYS held internal enforcement hostage to law enforcement to get comprehensive amnesty rewards of “legalized” residency.

As Harry Reid did in Feb. 2009: after Pelosi’s House passed an E-Verify amendment to the 800 billion stimulus, Reid refused to hold a vote in the Senate on the same amendment. When confronted by a reporter, he said, “That’s why we need comprehensive …”

He would not accept enforcement without rewards of the ill-gotten goods to the criminals.

fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Michael Scherer argues in this month’s Time cover story that Latinos will pick the next president

.

Time magazine an independent thinker which I guess thinks all Latinos are the vaunted indies we hear so much about. If Latinos will pick the next POTUS, let’s just tell everyone else to kiss off. I am so sick of these geniuses that know how to predict the next election. They are losers who have never won a damn election, not even a high school class election.

they lie on February 23, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Newt and Perry offered up a decent plan based on realities but got shot down.

AH_C on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

First step: Secure the border.

Second step: ONLY THEN either use a case by case review of current illegals

or get rid of the welfare state and let any worker apply for entry.

Laurence on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Up next…

… Mittens, … on a horse, … cowboy hat, … on a hill, … US / Mexico International border in sight, … long stern look.

You know it’s coming…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 23, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Many of our hard-working, family-oriented southern neighbors who still believe in the American Dream and want to create a better future for their children are precisely the sort of immigrants for whom we should want to ease the process to come here legally in the first place.

Can we swap them one for one with Leftists? Send the Left to Mexico like Tories to Canada after the American Revolution.

SDN on February 23, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Sanity check: isn’t ‘border control’ a BIG part of ‘immigration reform’..?

affenhauer on February 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

First step: Secure the border.

Second step: ONLY THEN either use a case by case review of current illegals

or get rid of the welfare state and let any worker apply for entry.

Laurence on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Biggest moron ever. You can’t dismantle the welfare state while inviting in millions of its clients.

Secure the border, enforce the laws over time, no amnesty or legal status for illegals, now or ever.

Come legally, or leave. Next question.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

but because nobody has an adequate response to the issue.

Yes, they do. Both Santorum and Romney advocate strict law enforcement, which has NEVER been tried at the federal level — only at the state level, as this GA video shows. Newt has a lousy point 6 in his plan. And the crazy uncle doesn’t believe in E-Verify.

Any GOP candidate should be ecstatic with 40% of the Hispanic vote, which is the % who want law enforcment, as shown here .

fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Many of our hard-working, family-oriented southern neighbors who still believe in the American Dream and want to create a better future for their children are precisely the sort of immigrants for whom we should want to ease the process to come here legally in the first place.

You mean the ones that reliably vote 2:1 or more Democrat once they’re legal?

What are you smoking?

It’s impossible to believe conservatives and republicans fall for this stuff in roughly the same number as democrats.

“Baby harp seal Republicans, lying in the snow all cute and cuddly, waiting to get clubbed and skinned by the left”.

That’s our Tina, folks.

“I think of a man….and then I subtract reason, and accountability”

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

First step: Secure the border.

Second step: ONLY THEN either use a case by case review of current illegals

or get rid of the welfare state and let any worker apply for entry.

Laurence on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Amen. The key is getting rid of the welfare state. Illegal aliens receive welfare, food stamps. subsidized housing, free education and medical treatment. Take away the goodies and enforce e-verify. Put some business owners who don’t use e-verify and hire illegals in jail. That along with securing the border will go a long way toward solving the problem.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

First step: Secure the border.

Second step: ONLY THEN either use a case by case review of current illegals

or get rid of the welfare state and let any worker apply for entry.

Laurence on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

No reviews needed. Listen to this illegal alien ‘splain how it works.

fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I’d say that some American people have some sense in their heads. The folks at the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, not so much.

Bigfoot on February 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

From the film “As Good as it Gets”:

Adoring fan: How do you write women so well?

Nicholson: I think of a man, and then I subtract reason, and accountability…..

Thats our Tina!

Reason, Tina, and accountability: Two things you obviously didnt learn growing up, child….

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Since they clearly have been waging economic war against us for decades, I would:

1. Halt all third party cash transfers to Mexico.
2. Stop all importation of Mexican tequila and foodstuffs other than produce.
3. Wait one month, and then ask them if they’re ready to build and guard the border fence.

M240H on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Dumb question, but how do fences keep people out who want in? Fences can be climbed and tunneled under. Without actual men on the border to watch the fence, what does a fence do? And with the men there, a fence is unnecessary anyway.

philoquin on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Amen. The key is getting rid of the welfare state. Illegal aliens receive welfare, food stamps. subsidized housing, free education and medical treatment. Take away the goodies and enforce e-verify. Put some business owners who don’t use e-verify and hire illegals in jail. That along with securing the border will go a long way toward solving the problem.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

You idiot. You CANNOT GET RID OF THE WELFARE STATE WHILE IMPORTING MILLIONS OF ITS CLIENTS….

Total logic fail.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Up next…

… Mittens, … on a horse, … cowboy hat, … on a hill, … US / Mexico International border in sight, … long stern look.

You know it’s coming…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 23, 2012 at 7:52 PM

No way. Never happen. Not a chance in a million he’d put a hat on that hair.

/

Lost in Jersey on February 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Poll: Majority of Americans say border control is more important to immigration reform

That reads like an unfinished sentence. Needs at least a “than….”.

whatcat on February 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Dumb question, but how do fences keep people out who want in? Fences can be climbed and tunneled under. Without actual men on the border to watch the fence, what does a fence do? And with the men there, a fence is unnecessary anyway.

philoquin on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Umm..That’s like saying doors don’t make it harder for unwanted people to walk into your house at random.

cane_loader on February 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Up next…

… Mittens, … on a horse, … cowboy hat, … on a hill, … US / Mexico International border in sight, … long stern look.

You know it’s coming…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 23, 2012 at 7:52 PM

too funny lol

residentblue on February 23, 2012 at 8:04 PM

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59 percent of likely U.S. voters think when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of illegal immigrants who are already in this country.

10 Steps to a Legal Nation

1. Control the border.

The United States must control its border. It is a national security imperative.

Every nation has the right to control its border. Historically, every country that has been determined to control their border has been able to do so.

Controlling the border is a matter of resources and will.

As Americans, we can accomplish unimaginable feats when we have the resources and the will. The United States won World War II in 3 years and 8 months. In the 44 months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the United States mobilized its resources to defeat Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan.

Unfortunately, we haven’t brought any sense of urgency to controlling our border – even as a drug-fueled civil war now rages in Mexico.

In October 1986, Ronald Reagan wrote in his diary that he was signing the Simpson-Mazzoli immigration reform bill because it was “high time we regained control of our borders & this bill will do this.”

Today, a quarter century later, we still have not achieved President Reagan’s goal and expectation.

This bill will waive every obstacle to controlling the border and would shift resources to achieve virtually 100% control by January 1, 2014. If necessary, we would move one-half of the 23,000 Washington-area Department of Homeland Security bureaucrats to the Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona borders.

A border control strategy must be responsive to the unique threats that exist at different parts of the frontier. This strategy must include round-the-clock drone flights to monitor activity, multi-layer, strategic fencing in urban areas, and vastly improved communication between state and federal authorities. ~ Newt Gingrich

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

This just proves how racist AmeriKKKa is.

/s

LegendHasIt on February 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Newt and Perry offered up a decent plan based on realities but got shot down.

AH_C on February 23, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Newt’s plan is nothing more than a stealth amnesty. With “establishing roots” (whatever that means), belonging to a church and finding a friendly neighborhood board (run by a member of LaRaza, the Democratic precinct delegate and a Unitarian minister or Catholic nun), any illegal with an IQ over 50 will figure a way to get amnesty.

And, anyone who believes the courts will go along with the idea that illegals given amnesty can never become citizens is a fool.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

A border control strategy must be responsive to the unique threats that exist at different parts of the frontier. This strategy must include round-the-clock drone flights to monitor activity, multi-layer, strategic fencing in urban areas, and vastly improved communication between state and federal authorities. ~ Newt Gingrich

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Newt is pro-amnesty/pro-illegal alien and always has been. In addition to the amnesty of 1986, Newt also supported a number of smaller amnesties. As Speaker, Newt played a major role in ensuring that e-verify wouldn’t become mandatory.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Newt’s plan is nothing more than a stealth amnesty. With “establishing roots” (whatever that means), belonging to a church and finding a friendly neighborhood board (run by a member of LaRaza, the Democratic precinct delegate and a Unitarian minister or Catholic nun), any illegal with an IQ over 50 will figure a way to get amnesty.

And, anyone who believes the courts will go along with the idea that illegals given amnesty can never become citizens is a fool.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM

What you said. Newt’s “community panels” is a recipe for corruption. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

JPeterman on February 23, 2012 at 8:12 PM

This just proves how racist AmeriKKKa is.

/s

LegendHasIt on February 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM

One track mind FAIL!

residentblue on February 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 8:11 PM

You’re determined to believe what you want to believe. But it’s obvious you didn’t click the link.

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Controlling the border. What a novel idea. Sort of like that statement back in 1986. “There will be no more amnesty, we will control our borders!”

GarandFan on February 23, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You’re determined to believe what you want to believe. But it’s obvious you didn’t click the link.

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Embarrassing link, as it shows the giant, gaping flaw in Newt’s “plan”.

Point six of Newt’s plan is stupid and counter-productive, IF you want to end illegal immigration. Point 6 is a giant magnet for increased future illegal immigration.

And when Newt said, “Republicans are not that heartless to deport 12 million…” he insulted the majority of Americans (and 40% of Hispanics – the law-respecting ones) with his false dichotomy.

Note that after Newt pushed this in 2 debates, he went downhill — FAST, since he didn’t realize how he had insulted the majority of Americans, those who think with their head, not their hearts, as liberals do.

fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Michael Scherer argues in this month’s Time cover story that Latinos will pick the next president

Do Latinos even read Time? Those idiots can’t even pander properly.

Mr. Arkadin on February 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM

And when Newt said, “Republicans are not that heartless to deport 12 million…” he insulted the majority of Americans (and 40% of Hispanics – the law-respecting ones) with his false dichotomy.
fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

He insulted the hell out of me Fred. I came to the U.S. in 1997 the legal way and had to wade through tons of paperwork, paying hundreds of dollars, having to check in monthly with my immigration officer, showing my pay stubs to prove I was working, producing my grades from university to prove I was a student and it wasn’t until the end of 2004 that I was finally granted citizenship.

And for Newt to suggest his “community panels” to determine who stays and who doesn’t chaps my a$$ to no end.

JPeterman on February 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Secure the border, enforce the laws over time, no amnesty or legal status for illegals, now or ever.

Come legally, or leave. Next question.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

None of these idiots ever talk about attrition through enforcement. It’s a real easy concept. Take away the welfare magnets, penalize employers, fix the anchor baby law and put a fricking Berlin Wall-esque fence at the border. Problem solved. Legalize these lawbreakers and it’s the death knell for the GOP and this country. These are not the immigrants of Ellis Island. They come here for the freebies with their 3rd grade educations and will always vote for the biggest handout while turning decent neighborhoods into barrios. And while we’re at it, something needs to be done about LEGAL immigration. We have Americans out of work, but we’re handing out over 100K H-1B visas a month??? We’re turning into a 3rd world cesspool.

TxAnn56 on February 23, 2012 at 8:51 PM

You’re determined to believe what you want to believe. But it’s obvious you didn’t click the link.

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I’ve read Newt’s entire website including his immigration policy, which has more holes than a sieve.

bw222 on February 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM

There are/were signs around Area 51 that said “Use of deadly force authorized.” Just saying.

marinetbryant on February 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM

He insulted the hell out of me Fred.

JPeterman on February 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Welcome! You followed the same legal path my grandparents did.

Why are so many people (including our Dear Tina) unaware of “attrition through enforcement”, which is working quite well wherever it is tried at the state level. This illegal alien understands it and explains it so well.

The press, Newt, Jindal, et al, all totally ignore the most effective, economical, just and POLITICALLY POPULAR strategy!!

GOP should proudly stand for total law enforcement, with no apologies, and stop allowing libs to tag us as anti-immigrant. Law enforcement HELPS legal immigrants. ESPECIALLY minority legal immigrants. Duh!

fred5678 on February 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM

what does a fence do? And with the men there, a fence is unnecessary anyway.

philoquin on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Do you actually believe this? The Arizona portion of the border is about 400 miles (2,110,000 feet) long. How many agents do you think it would take to secure this length 24/7 (3 shifts a day 7 days a week). Then we still have all of New Mexico, a good portion of Texas and all of California to go. That is just talking about on the border itself. Lots of other areas agents need to be.

chemman on February 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Do you really think drones work. By the time agents can establish feet on the ground where the drone spotted someone crossing they are hours gone. The reality is that for drones to work you would need to increase the number of CBP stations and the number of agents by at least one power of 10.

chemman on February 23, 2012 at 9:14 PM

philoquin on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Once California got its fences in place where major crossings took place the crossings moved east into the Tucson sector where it was easier.

chemman on February 23, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Amnesty would guarantee democrat party hegemony forever. Amnesty would be the end of the republic.

Rebar on February 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM

JPeterman on February 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM

We have much the same in Australia – if you’re from certain countries, that is.

OldEnglish on February 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Many of our hard-working, family-oriented southern neighbors who still believe in the American Dream and want to create a better future for their children are precisely the sort of immigrants for whom we should want to ease the process to come here legally in the first place.

I agree with your statement as it pertains to our hard-working, family-oriented southern neighbors from Cuba who still believe in the American Dream and want to create a better future for their children. The ones from Mexico largely come here to suck off the public teat and don’t want to bother having their kids learn English.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Do you actually believe this? The Arizona portion of the border is about 400 miles (2,110,000 feet) long. How many agents do you think it would take to secure this length 24/7 (3 shifts a day 7 days a week). Then we still have all of New Mexico, a good portion of Texas and all of California to go. That is just talking about on the border itself. Lots of other areas agents need to be.

chemman on February 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Hey let’s take Obama’s idea of building a moat and filling it with alligators. This works better than a fence. And we don’t have to pay the alligators to function as border patrol agents.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 9:36 PM

“I think of a man….and then I subtract reason, and accountability”

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Did you really mean to say that? Really? I have seen you lose your reason on many threads here.

juliesa on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Dumb question, but how do fences keep people out who want in? Fences can be climbed and tunneled under. Without actual men on the border to watch the fence, what does a fence do? And with the men there, a fence is unnecessary anyway.

philoquin on February 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Yes. The fencing has to be constantly patrolled because it takes just a few seconds for the illegals to scale them. The fence does slow them down and makes them more visible, and i suppose it funnels them in certain directions.

juliesa on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

We have much the same in Australia – if you’re from certain countries, that is.

OldEnglish on February 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I was born in Slovakia but lived a good part of my life in Prague, Czechoslovakia and then watched it become Czech Republic when communism fell. My family returned to Slovakia in 1993 after the Velvet Divorce and were finally able to reclaim my grandmom’s home that was taken in 1947.

JPeterman on February 23, 2012 at 10:27 PM

You’re determined to believe what you want to believe. But it’s obvious you didn’t click the link.

Flora Duh on February 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Spot on. Like I said originally above, newt and Perry have a decent plan… The whole issue of immigration is twofold, 1) of course we have to seal and control the border such that the way to get in is the legal way.. 2) legal/illegal has to be dealt with in a fair way considering the realities.

Put another way, for decades our law were such that yes, sneaking into the country is illegal, however because our politicians looked the other way, they have to share the blame. Much like a trademark or copyright holder, while they have rights to their property, if they are not diligent they can lose the right to protection. My contention is that due to our lack of diligence, we have lost the right to toss every single illegal out.

What we can do is define the thresholds that will determine who can stay and who has to go at the federal level. At the same time, the states have every right to compensate for the lack of diligence from the feds. They can drive out all illegals, as intended by sb1070 in AZ or do as AL or GA and OK has done. On the flipside, they can be sanctuaries – with the caveat that there will be no bailout or fed$$$. Either way for now until the feds get serious. When that happens, then the states need to be in compliance with what the feds define as legals.

The problems that some yahoos don’t realize is the immigration laws are a social construct, not an issue of nature’s law. IOW, it is not black or white like murder. To solve this it has to be a compromise that can pass Congress. We can’t throw everyone out, but it doesn’t mean we have to tolerate anarchists, homeland nativists etc. As long as yahoos insist on one extreme or the other, there will be no resolution. Newt and Perry have articulated a plan that 60% of Americans can get behind. Mitts plan is not a serious one in that it’s the classic promise to get tough andforget about it when in office. Just like Oboobi. Despite his promise to do something, his plan is severely liberal that cannot get even a simple majority, even with help from across the aisle with McVain Grahamnesty et al.

AH_C on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I see, you want TX and FL blue, I get it. I don’t.

To me, you’re just another Republican baby harp seal waiting to get clubbed and skinned by the left.

Anyone who supports Newt’s or Perry’s immigration ideas, is a traitor to the US constitution and an enemy of the rule of law.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 11:05 PM

No borders, no country.

Just moochland.

profitsbeard on February 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Those who came to this nation illegally and remain in this nation working illegally have already demonstrated that they have no regard for the rule of law or the rights of the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation, or the 4.5 million potential legal immigrants waiting in line around the world to come to this nation legally.

This nation accepts over 1 million legal immigrants per year ( bout 750,000 legal immigrants and about 250,000 asylum seekers) from all over the world. Unfortunately, as it stand today, about 200,000-300,000 of those granted legal status every year are illegal aliens laundering their illegal status to legal status. Check the site for the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform.

This nation has no great need for any immigrant who is unskilled or lower level skills when it comes to the workplace. We have plenty of laborers and unskilled or low skilled workers. We need highly skilled immigrants who can do the jobs that we don’t readily have people to fill. Currently we could use Doctors and Engineers. We can always use more talented scientists.

I think Tina is right when she asserts that we need to decide as a nation what kind of immigrants we need and how many we should accept per year.

At over 1 million per year, we are accepting around 100,000 per month. With unemployment hovering at between about 8.5 and 10% and the economy barely growing,job growth lagging or completely stalled, we can’t give jobs to the number of immigrants that we are accepting and provide gainful employment for our own citizens and the legal immigrants we already have in the nation.

It might be advisable to restrict immigration to bare necessary skills until we can offer our legal immigrants jobs when they get here and perhaps peg immigration expansion to an unemployment rate of around 5%.

thatsafactjack on February 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Michael Scherer argues in this month’s Time cover story that Latinos will pick the next president.

Exhibit #1 for the argument against letting a single race of people illegally invade your country. Next thing you know the vermin are picking your President based on which politician gives them the most shiny objects.

Jaibones on February 23, 2012 at 11:49 PM

The fact that the repubs reFUSED to secure the border during “W’s” two terms is the SINGLE biggest reason I wrote to the RNC, removed my membership as a Republican, and re-registered as an independent (as well as ceasing any and all funds to any Republican candidate who was not pro-border-security). They had a chance and they blew it. Get a grip people. Secure the freakin’ border already.

kburchard on February 23, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I’ve softened my stance on federal immigration control. If you’re lucky enough to live in a state that takes illegal immigration more seriously than surrounding states (and I do), even the threat of more stringent state compliance with federal immigration law has been enough to improve the situation in my state at the expense of neighboring states.

Knott Buyinit on February 24, 2012 at 12:27 AM

I live right next to a town with a HUGE illegal immigration population. My dad grew up there and when he was a kid it was a nice, family town, just like the town I live in now. Since the illegals moved in it’s turned into something that’s only two steps up from a slum because a train to and from NYC stops there so local politicans pour money into “beautification” projects and a police force three ties bigger than a town that size needs. And even with all that there are STILL gangs and drugs and people living three familys to a single apartment who drive around in shiny new, tax free Escalades. Every drunk driving death, EVERY SINGLE ONE, has been done by an illegal and the victim has been an American citizen. Illegal immigration is a huge problem and borders NEED to be secured. End of story.

Cyhort on February 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM

WHEW! I thought that said “BIRTH control” and I was going to shoot myself, because it meant all this unending religious BS back and forth had taken over the country.

Thank God.

tree hugging sister on February 24, 2012 at 7:46 AM

I don’t want amnesty for any illegal alien, EVER. Not even after getting the border under control, which will hopefully happen.

I don’t care how long someone has been here. If they have to live their whole lives as illegal aliens, so be it.

I also don’t want anchor babies given citizenship.

We have been WAY too generous. It is time for this to stop. I have nothing against these people personally (and, to be honest, I’d probably do the same if I was in their position), but it’s time we started enforcing our laws.

Illegal immigration is destroying so much of our country. Mexico is dumping its poor on us. It’s devastating so many of our once-beautiful cities. Have any of you been to Los Angeles lately? Much of the area looks like a second world slum.

bluegill on February 24, 2012 at 8:01 AM

My dad grew up there and when he was a kid it was a nice, family town, just like the town I live in now. Since the illegals moved in it’s turned into something that’s only two steps up from a slu[...]

Cyhort on February 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Yep, it’s happening everywhere. It sickens me.

I’m so sick of these people saying we need to be compassionate… blah, blah, blah.

The truth is most of these illegal aliens are living just fine.

Meanwhile, we have highly-skilled people from Taiwan, South Korea and elsewhere waiting years for green cards to permanently live and work in the United States.

bluegill on February 24, 2012 at 8:08 AM

How about border control, and a complete rewrite of immigration law?

Border Patrol? Let them do their job, and dont let anything stop them. As soon as the US is allowed to make illegal crossings a non-starter, then the job is being done. For each appeal to humanity hides a human trafficker or smuggler that shows (and deserves no) no humanity.

Illegals? Why yes, we should be able to send all of them back. Just place the government contract for getting these people out of this country.

Immigration law? Look towards places like Arizona, Alabama, and Georgia (but not places like Utah) for inspiration. If they’re complaining about the lack of help when the illegals remove themselves (or are removed), keep at it. Don’t allow guest workers, since they’re just as bad as illegals at distorting the job market.

Guest worker programs? Gone. In every case, they invite abuse by employers to not even consider citizens. This distorts the job market since these people do not have a citizenship path and are treated similarly to illegals.

sethstorm on February 24, 2012 at 8:55 AM

If you’re not a legal citizen, you should not be able to get federal or state benefits of ANY kind.
No housing, no food stamps, no WIC assistance, no LIHEAP (heating assistance), no SS benefits of ANY kind, no tuition assistance, etc.

This will get rid of a lot of illegals.
We should not have those programs through the Federal govt for anyone anyway.
But why have we been giving stuff to people breaking the law?
If life is rough where you’re at, tough.
There comes a point where you just can’t take in the whole neighborhood without destroying yourself in the process.

Badger40 on February 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I see, you want TX and FL blue, I get it. I don’t.

To me, you’re just another Republican baby harp seal waiting to get clubbed and skinned by the left.

Anyone who supports Newt’s or Perry’s immigration ideas, is a traitor to the US constitution and an enemy of the rule of law.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Would you care to explain this post? Or would you prefer to just spout off? After all Perry has lived in Texas all of his life, he is the Governor of Texas and has to deal with illegal immigration on a daily basis, but yet according to you; he is a traitor and an enemy to the rule of law.

DDay on February 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM

It’s a simple solution. Take the military personnel that will be effected by the cuts in the defense budget and move those personnel to Homeland Security and you can achieve both solutions pretty easily. It would also allow us to call these people into service if need be.

djaymick on February 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

When your boat is half full of water, you plug the hole before you start bailing. Same principle applies with the border.

SGinNC on February 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

I see, you want TX and FL blue, I get it. I don’t.

To me, you’re just another Republican baby harp seal waiting to get clubbed and skinned by the left.

Anyone who supports Newt’s or Perry’s immigration ideas, is a traitor to the US constitution and an enemy of the rule of law.

rightwingyahooo on February 23, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Would you care to explain this post? Or would you prefer to just spout off? After all Perry has lived in Texas all of his life, he is the Governor of Texas and has to deal with illegal immigration on a daily basis, but yet according to you; he is a traitor and an enemy to the rule of law.

DDay on February 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM

And because of his position in Texas he is forced to pander to the very people that want to keep the illegals coming. It is time to stop the pandering and enforce the law.

SGinNC on February 24, 2012 at 2:28 PM