Maryland becomes eighth state to legalize gay marriage

posted at 10:01 pm on February 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

It passed the House last week and the Senate tonight, and the governor’s signature is a fait accompli:

The final vote by the state Senate ended a yearlong drama in Annapolis over the legislation, and marked the first time an East Coast state south of the Mason-Dixon line has supported gay nuptials…

Despite one of the largest Democratic majorities in any state legislature, backers of gay marriage in Maryland had to overcome fierce opposition from blocks of African American lawmakers and those with strong Catholic and evangelical views to cobble together coalitions big enough to pass both chambers.

The bill didn’t become viable until two more Democrats were elected to the Senate in 2010, which finally gave them the votes to move the bill out of committee. Next up: The inevitable popular referendum to see whether the law should be blocked. According to Ballotpedia, polls taken in early 2011 and 2012 show roughly 50 percent support for gay marriage in the state versus opposition in the low 40s. Much will depend on turnout, but the true significance of the referendum is that potentially it applies a bit more pressure to the Supreme Court to take this issue up constitutionally. That’s probably a done deal anyway thanks to the Ninth Circuit’s recent ruling on Prop 8, but if Maryland’s gay-marriage opponents win the referendum and gay rights activists sue to have it thrown out, that’ll be two cases in two different states in two different regions involving a question of majority rule pitted directly against minority rights. Hard for the Court to resist.

Via Mediaite, here’s Chris Christie squaring off with WaPo’s Jonathan Capehart this a.m. on “Morning Joe” over his veto of New Jersey’s gay marriage bill. They’re actually both wrong here, I think. First Capehart accuses Christie of letting a popular referendum determine the civil rights of a minority, but that’s not actually true. As I understand it, any potential referendum in New Jersey would seek to overturn Christie’s veto by asking simply whether gay marriage should now be legalized. That’s different from a referendum asking whether gay marriage should be banned. The former, if it fails, adds nothing to the state constitution, merely affirming Christie’s veto and the status quo unless and until there’s a legislative majority willing to change it. Whereas the latter, if it passed, would lock in a constitutional prohibition barring future legislative efforts until a popular majority overturned it. Christie’s wrong too, though, in claiming that Obama’s trying to have it both ways on gay marriage while he’s standing on principle by resolving to veto the gay-marriage bill when it gets to his desk. Christie’s trying to have it both ways too by consistently talking up the referendum as a way around him. He knows full well that it’s likely to pass if it happens — according to a poll taken a few weeks ago, the public supports gay marriage 54/35 — but he wants to keep his ducks in a row on social issues in case he ends up on the national GOP ticket someday. By supporting a referendum so effusively, he’s basically encouraging New Jerseyites to legalize gay marriage for him so that he doesn’t have to get his hands dirty doing so. Which, of course, makes the scolding from Capehart and others ironic. Christie’s not booting the issue to the public because he wants the majority to crush the minority’s rights, he’s booting it because he expects the majority will affirm the minority’s rights and thereby nullify his politically expedient veto.


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I shed a tear…so touching

liberal4life on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Yawn.

JohnGalt23 on February 23, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Maryland had to overcome fierce opposition from blocks of African American lawmakers and those with strong Catholic and evangelical views to cobble together coalitions big enough to pass both chambers.

For the umpteenth time, can anyone explain to me these voting blocs?

SouthernGent on February 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM

backers of gay marriage in Maryland had to overcome fierce opposition from blocks of African American lawmakers

I await the vicious attacks from militant gays on black lawmakers and churches … what’s that I hear? Crickets?

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM

O’Malley is a complete putz, but he’s running for President in 2016, mark my word. Being a Dem in one of the bluest states in the country is not the best training.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM

How Maryland of them.

Electrongod on February 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Supreme Court will decide this for everyone soon enough.

gaius on February 23, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I really dont care so much as it’s a non issue. But for all the polls that say the country wants it until it’s voted down.

Flapjackmaka on February 23, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Shame

multiuseless on February 23, 2012 at 10:07 PM

The atheist blogger dude has labeled gays a minority that have rights. Religious rights come first in this country dude.

Mormontheman on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Cool. The sooner this gets to the Supreme Court the sooner we can get over it and start focus on the real important issues this country faces. Like abortion!

You know, while I’d probably like to get married sometime in the future, I’d much rather be able to do it in a free market country with a small federal government that isn’t a slave to unions and special interests with a president who doesn’t hate the country he’s president of. So once we get all that taken care of then I’ll start waving the rainbow flag for marriage.

Cyhort on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

I shed a tear…so touching

liberal4life on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Drama Queen for a Day… every day.

M240H on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

For the umpteenth time, can anyone explain to me these voting blocs?

SouthernGent on February 23, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Sure, it goes something like this, “You’re a black democrat state senator/assemblyman, I’m a white democrat senator/assemblyman. Shame if our Montgomery County yuppies cut off your PG/Baltimore County welfare, wouldn’t it?”

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Let the people vote.

Roymunson on February 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Wow! Pushing sodomy on the basis that a critical vote in the House had to go to the hospital is chicken shit cowardice.

The reality is that the whole issue will be a referendum on the November ballot when the views of those outside of Prince Georges, Montgomery, and Baltimore County makes a difference.

Happy Nomad on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

As gay marriage illustrates, we are now at a point in our mentality as a nation where until government sanctions your actions you don’t have civil rights. When they do, then you are ‘free’.

MechanicalBill on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I shed a tear…so touching

liberal4life on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

OK…

… Bishop, I KNOW it is you!

You’ve had your fun…

… Now stop rattling the cage, unless Allah is making it worth your while!

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Way to go Maryland!

ZachV on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I mean. California of all places votes it down. It’s a uniting thing among conservatives and black people actually. Why does Allah support though? Sincerely asking?

Flapjackmaka on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I don’t care much about gay marriage in states other than my own except for the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution.

The Full Faith and Credit Clause is a clause in the Constitution of the United States which states that: “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.” Put in simple language, under the Full Faith and Credit Clause judgments rendered in one state are acknowledged in others.

I’m afraid that the gay lobby wants to get legalization in a single state and then force the rest of the states to recognize gay marriage using the clause.

Charlemagne on February 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM

this is a losing battle, so cons, give it up

DBear on February 23, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I shed a tear…so touching

liberal4life on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Richard Simmons loves you.

Sharke on February 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I shed a tear…so touching

liberal4life on February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Drama Queen for a Day… every day.

M240H on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Schadenfreude on February 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I’m afraid that the gay lobby wants to get legalization in a single state and then force the rest of the states to recognize gay marriage using the clause.

Naw, we’ll dodder along and maybe win 20 states or so before the Full Faith and Credit clause kicks in. But, by then it won’t be an issue anymore. Those who are viciously opposed to gay marriage won’t be around anymore.

ZachV on February 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Let the people vote.

Roymunson on February 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Didn’t do us a lick of good in CA. Two out of three pinheads say were not allowed constitutional amendments via the the democratic process.

antipc on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

The final vote by the state Senate ended a yearlong drama in Annapolis over the legislation, and marked the first time an East Coast state south of the Mason-Dixon line has supported gay nuptials…

Despite one of the largest Democratic majorities in any state legislature, backers of gay marriage in Maryland had to overcome fierce opposition from blocks of African American lawmakers and those with strong Catholic and evangelical views to cobble together coalitions big enough to pass both chambers.

Interesting how the gay community never calls blacks “homophobes” for not supporting gay marriage, but let a white Christian Republican oppose it and the slurs rain down.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Mormontheman on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

How exactly does this trample on religious liberties? As far as I can tell, this bill orders the State of Maryland to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The religious institutions are under no obligation to perform same-sex wedding services.

LukeinNE on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

8 states and still no undisputable scientific proof that homosexuality is anything other than a chosen lifestyle, and not deserving of any special legislation.

Since the term “marriage” has a new legal definition, time for the leftists to give new legal meaning for “consenting” and “adult.” Don’t want the animals and children to be deprived of “marriage.”

TugboatPhil on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

If gay marriage is passed in a state, other states are DEMANDED to accept it. If it’s voted down in a state we ain’t havin’ that mess, so it’s ruled unconstitutional. I don’t get the dichotomy.

SouthernGent on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

How many hetero couples are going to get divorced now since the “institute of marriage” is worthless now?

Thanks gays.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I’m reminded of the Animal House scene where the brothers just received notification that they are being kicked out. Crestfallen, they resolved to gather their stuff to depart. But John Belushi stood up and said “NO! If we’re kicked out, lets go out with a bang!” That’s what the rest of the movie was about.

anotherJoe on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Religious rights come first in this country dude.

Mormontheman on February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM

does that include sharia law?

DBear on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I didn’t see your post. You beat me to it.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

the word you’re looking for is COWARDS.

GhoulAid on February 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

OK…

… Bishop, I KNOW it is you!

Seven Percent Solution on February 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Nah, it’s a moocher who lives off your labor.

Schadenfreude on February 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

I initially wondered about who gets what ring (or do they both get their traditional gender’s rings) then I met a guy at school with a solitaire on his ring finger. It was odd enough that I asked and he said his boyfriend had given it to him when they got engaged. They were headed to the Netherlands later that year to tie the knot.

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:17 PM

losing battle, so cons, give it up

The loser will ultimately be government’s involvement in marriage. It’s hard to argue why we need government just to sanction who can couple. That’s the element neither side seems to want to acknowledge yet.

MechanicalBill on February 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Interesting how the gay community never calls blacks “homophobes” for not supporting gay marriage, but let a white Christian Republican oppose it and the slurs rain down.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Yep, the enemy of my enemy is my second cousin’s roommate or something.

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

The religious institutions are under no obligation to perform same-sex wedding services.

LukeinNE on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Yet.

As we all know, the left never stops. In fact, I’m trying to remember any issue the left has said “ok, we got our way, we’re done”.

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

So now it is
Marry-Land now ?

burrata on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Personally, I would prefer that the government get out of marriage altogether, but, since that won’t be happening anytime soon, I am personally happy to hear that Maryland, like Washington, is legalizing gay marriage.

theoddmanout on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

How many hetero couples are going to get divorced now since the “institute of marriage” is worthless now?

Thanks gays.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Truth be told, gay marriage has nothing to do with heterosexual marriages. The Institution of Marriage has been trampled by heteros for ages. Look at the divorce rate. Over 50%. My problem with gay marriage is the redefinition of what marriage is. I believe it to be between one man and one woman. Period.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

It passed the House last week and the Senate tonight, and the governor’s signature is a fait accompli

Wait… they passed it through the legislative process instead of having some judges make something up? Is that allowed?

/Californian

malclave on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Wait… they passed it through the legislative process instead of having some judges make something up? Is that allowed?

/Californian

malclave on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

LOL!!

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:22 PM

So now it is
Marry-Land now ?

burrata on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Wrong, gay = merry

Merryland

Schadenfreude on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Bread and circuses, my friends, bread and circuses.

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

The desire of a man to have sex with, or marry a man, is the same as the desire of a man to have sex with, or marry, a goat.

As they say in Leviticus, Eeeew!

It is an abomination unto the Lord. And even without the Bible, it’s hella disgusting!

There is no single issue which prevents me from considering a Democratic vote than their decadent, and unhealthy, pre-occupation with legitimizing the mental illness of queers.

Gay marriage is not marriage, because gay sex is not sex. Think about it. Do I have to draw you a diagram?

And I’m a severe agnostic, or atheist, too!

No gay marriage! And since the gays are so shamelsss and militant, we say overturn Lawrence v. Texas, too!

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Nothing really changed in Washington state. Unless you work in human resources. Then maybe some paperwork did.

Jeddite on February 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

And where the hell’s ernesto?

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Truth be told, gay marriage has nothing to do with heterosexual marriages. The Institution of Marriage has been trampled by heteros for ages. Look at the divorce rate. Over 50%. My problem with gay marriage is the redefinition of what marriage is. I believe it to be between one man and one woman. Period.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM

This.

Stoic Patriot on February 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

When the open and full Caliphate gets going there will be ships like MS St. Louis full of gays and Jews from the middle east. All it would take is an accusation of anyone and they would not care to hide it with some other reason they hang.

tjexcite on February 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Do I have to draw you a diagram?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Do it in MSPAINT. Go on.

Jeddite on February 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Another step towards undefining men and women. Well, I guess society will destr..take care of itself.

Dongemaharu on February 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

This gay Republican thanks Maryland and her Governor.

9 down, 42 to go!

It's Vintage, Duh on February 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Yet.

As we all know, the left never stops. In fact, I’m trying to remember any issue the left has said “ok, we got our way, we’re done”.

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Kind of like how religious institutions are mandated to provide insurance that covers contraceptives and abortion drugs even if it’s against their beliefs.

Bitter Clinger on February 23, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Schadenfreude on February 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Alrighty then… A shot in the dark, and I apparently winged RuPaul’s rather less fabulous ‘sister’…

And I’ll think about it before I click one your hyperlinks again…

M240H on February 23, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Gay marriage is not marriage, because gay sex is not sex. Think about it. Do I have to draw you a diagram?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Yes.

I’m sure you have them around your cottage somewhere.

Powerpoint maybe.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:30 PM

You people are too tolerant. Pretty soon you will be forgiving first-degree murder, too–because the media tells you it’s the progressive way of looking at things.

No gay marriage.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

How many hetero couples are going to get divorced now since the “institute of marriage” is worthless now?

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I’m curious – where is this Marriage Institute? Did they give you a live demonstration of how to properly screw your wife/fiance?

Are you suggesting that they will no longer stay open, now having to expand their curricula to include gay studies without the requisite demand to keep the lights on?

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Freedom rings in Maryland. Queue the faux victims in here.

mythicknight on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

This isn’t a left/right issue. Conservatives who believe in small government should applaud what Maryland is doing. Further, this does not affect any individual church — they are all free to marry whoever they want, handle snakes, speak in tongues, etc. And it is the right thing to do, just as laws ending racial discrimination were the right thing to be enacted.

strongerthandirt on February 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Personally, I would prefer that the government get out of marriage altogether, but, since that won’t be happening anytime soon, I am personally happy to hear that Maryland, like Washington, is legalizing gay marriage.

It reduces marriage to simply being a sanctioning of who can couple. Prior to this and the many other erosion’s of the institution, the government used it as a way of promoting the production and education of more future tax payers. Granted you weren’t forced to use it that way. But now with gay marriage it is just the government rubber stamping your sex life. That’s a creepy role for government. But less seriously, I can’t think of many advantages to being gay, but not finding yourself married to the bi**h would have been one. So now that’s gone too.

MechanicalBill on February 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM

No gay marriage! And since the gays are so shamelsss and militant, we say overturn Lawrence v. Texas, too!

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I see what you’re saying. Fire with fire. They’ve taken a mile, and what’s next?

anotherJoe on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

This gay Republican thanks Maryland and her Governor.

9 down, 42 to go!

It’s Vintage, Duh on February 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Not to be disrespectful but what does Marriage get you that you would not have had under any sort of civil union or contract law? Is it more the emotional and social acceptance issue than anything else?

“no really I have friends who are gay”

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

You people are too tolerant. Pretty soon you will be forgiving first-degree murder, too–because the media tells you it’s the progressive way of looking at things.

Diagram please. Venn preferably.

Jeddite on February 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

So, let me get this straight: it’s OK for liberals when they get involved in passing all sorts of social legislation, but, when we do it, It Is The End Of Freedom As We Know It, and a travesty, etc and so on?

William Teach on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Fortunately, NAMBLA will never gain acceptance./

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

So… I bet 20 internets this gets shot down in referendum

Flapjackmaka on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

How’s this going to help me pay for my rent? It’s the economy…stupid! I fear the two party system is not enough anymore, with some much gridlock, only side issues such as these can get the light of day.

residentblue on February 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

You people are too tolerant. Pretty soon you will be forgiving first-degree murder, too–because the media tells you it’s the progressive way of looking at things.

No gay marriage.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

You just compared gay marriage to first-degree murder. Thanks so much for perpetuating the neanderthal conservative stereotype.

MadisonConservative on February 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Fortunately, NAMBLA will never gain acceptance./

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Impressive.

Almost 60 posts before the pedo card was thrown down.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

This is no cause for celebration. This is a time to identify the culprits in Maryland, and retire them to the private sector.

Anyway, I don’t have to draw you a diagram. You know what the diagram would show, and it will show a degenerate and digusting practice.

Why do you think they call them queers?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

*yawns*

Who did what now? Oh.

.

.

.

Whatever. Don’t care.

alchemist19 on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

You people are too tolerant. Pretty soon you will be forgiving first-degree murder, too–because the media tells you it’s the progressive way of looking at things.

No gay marriage.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Anyone see a man jump a shark?

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Not to be disrespectful but what does Marriage get you that you would not have had under any sort of civil union or contract law? Is it more the emotional and social acceptance issue than anything else?

“no really I have friends who are gay”

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Yes, it’s all about normalizing homosexuality. If they’re successful the next step will be the marginalization of those institutions, i.e. churches, and individuas who refuse to accept it as equal to the biological normal.

Charlemagne on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

So how much scratch did you have to lay down for them to teach you how to properly lay your girl? Bet you could have asked around for free – I’m sure there’s no shortage of public knowledge of any broad that would sack up with you.

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

The loser will ultimately be government’s involvement in marriage. It’s hard to argue why we need government just to sanction who can couple. That’s the element neither side seems to want to acknowledge yet.

MechanicalBill on February 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I’ve said this before:

Prior to the last few decades, marriage has been defined and recognized across time and across cultures as a relationship between a man and a woman.

What we are looking at today is not an inclusion into this institution of those who have been “denied” marriage because of their homosexual activity, but a redefinition of a relationship that is the cornerstone of society, and which societies and countries have protected through legal means because of the understanding and recognition of the importance to society of the mutual and complementary love, enjoyment and support uniquely provided by each sex to the other, and because of the understanding and recognition of the importance of the future of a society through the protection and rearing of children in a family setting in which they learn love, trust, discipline and identity through the unique and different abilities and perspectives of the two sexes.

INC on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

This is no cause for celebration. This is a time to identify the culprits in Maryland, and retire them to the private sector.

Anyway, I don’t have to draw you a diagram. You know what the diagram would show, and it will show a degenerate and digusting practice.

Why do you think they call them queers?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Did you know most sodomy is committed by heterosexuals?

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

So… I bet 20 internets this gets shot down in referendum

Flapjackmaka on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

400 quatloos the newcomers will have to be destroyed.

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM

residentblue on February 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Come on, you moocher. Obama already pays it.

Whine about something else, or become a looter. It pays better and you can exploit the sheep who mooch.

Schadenfreude on February 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Gay marriage is not marriage, because gay sex is not sex. Think about it. Do I have to draw you a diagram?

And I’m a severe agnostic, or atheist, too!

No gay marriage! And since the gays are so shamelsss and militant, we say overturn Lawrence v. Texas, too!

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Anyway, I don’t have to draw you a diagram. You know what the diagram would show, and it will show a degenerate and digusting practice.

Why do you think they call them queers?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

DRAMA

Jeddite on February 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM

This isn’t a left/right issue. Conservatives who believe in small government should applaud what Maryland is doing. Further, this does not affect any individual church — they are all free to marry whoever they want, handle snakes, speak in tongues, etc. And it is the right thing to do, just as laws ending racial discrimination were the right thing to be enacted.

strongerthandirt on February 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM

The right thing to do is to get government out marriage altogether. Gays would be happy and religion would be happy.

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:39 PM

So how much scratch did you have to lay down for them to teach you how to properly lay your girl? Bet you could have asked around for free – I’m sure there’s no shortage of public knowledge of any broad that would sack up with you.

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

You are misreading me dude.

Slow down, take a breath and look up the definition of Poe’s Law.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

So, let me get this straight: it’s OK for liberals when they get involved in passing all sorts of social legislation, but, when we do it, It Is The End Of Freedom As We Know It, and a travesty, etc and so on?

William Teach on February 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Now you got it.

Heads they win. tails you lose.
Don’t you wanna play the game?

sharrukin on February 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Did you know most sodomy is committed by heterosexuals?

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Probably because there’s many more heterosexuals?

You’re really on the ball today.

darwin on February 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

You just compared gay marriage to first-degree murder. Thanks so much for perpetuating the neanderthal conservative stereotype.

MadisonConservative on February 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM

And after that we’ll be forgiving putting Jews in cattle cars and sending them off the death camps. If you’re going to go for the nonsensical slippery slope argument then you really ought to go for the gold straight away and bring Hitler into the discussion.

alchemist19 on February 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Impressive.

Almost 60 posts before the pedo card was thrown down.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Civil rights bill signed by President Johnson!

“Fortunately, homosexual ‘marriage’ will never be an issue>”

*Pablo*

“Impressive.

Almost 60 posts before the pedo gay marriage card was thrown down.”

Lanceman on February 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

This quote (and I bet your Internet history) suggest that you are okay with lesbian sex.

Enjoy being on the wrong side of history, loser.

It's Vintage, Duh on February 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Thanks so much for perpetuating the neanderthal conservative stereotype.

Are you afraid the progressives are going to call you a Neanderthal? Do you worry that they are not going to invite you to their cocktail parties?

If that were true I also wouldn’t have voted for Reagan.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

This gay Republican thanks Maryland and her Governor.

9 down, 42 to go!

It’s Vintage, Duh on February 23, 2012 at 10:25 PM

unlike you, i am a republican who is gay. did you catch that? i put my political leanings before what i do in the bedroom.

BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE THE ECONOMY, THE WAR ON CHRISTIANITY, CHRISTMAS, AND THE FACT THAT THIS COUNTRY IS CIRCLING THE DRAIN.

but you won’t understand, because gays like yourself only care about your sexual pleasures and shoving it down America’s throat.

GhoulAid on February 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Are you afraid the progressives are going to call you a Neanderthal? Do you worry that they are not going to invite you to their cocktail parties?

If that were true I also wouldn’t have voted for Reagan.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I’m afraid of our side advancing easily debunked silly arguments that make us look like unreasonable idiots that no thinking person would want to associate with.

alchemist19 on February 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Bunsin2 on February 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM

No one wins under a “Separate but Equal” system.

Also, while I can get married in my present jurisdiction (DC), If I move to my home state of Kentucky, I will lose all those rights.

It's Vintage, Duh on February 23, 2012 at 10:44 PM

And it is the right thing to do, just as laws ending racial discrimination were the right thing to be enacted.

strongerthandirt on February 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Hear Hear …now let us tell it to this judge :

During a Feb. 21 meeting, Parker told the Stonewall Democrats of Dallas that while she has the power to perform legal marriage ceremonies in her court, she will not.

I use it as my opportunity to give them a lesson about marriage inequality in this state because I feel like I have to tell them why I’m turning them away,” Parker said. “So I usually will offer them something along the lines of, ‘I’m sorry. I don’t perform marriage ceremonies because we are in a state that does not have marriage equality, and until it does, I am not going to partially apply the law to one group of people that doesn’t apply to another group of people.’ And it’s kind of oxymoronic for me to perform ceremonies that can’t be performed for me, so I’m not going to do it.”

A judge with an agenda , holding the law hostage .
And yes, she is a lesb.

burrata on February 23, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Question for the gays,

Is the idea of getting gay married sort of like straight marriage. When asked if you want to get gay married, one is jumping up and down all excited and enthusiastic. The other nods yes and forces a smile but is thinking “NOOOOOOOO!!!!!”

And then do you suspect that some of these gay marriage vote defeats could have in part been due to sabotage votes from the more butch half?

These are halfway serious questions I’m asking.

MechanicalBill on February 23, 2012 at 10:45 PM

You are misreading me dude.

Slow down, take a breath and look up the definition of Poe’s Law.

Pablo Honey on February 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM

So, I’m supposed to believe that a prima facie idiot like you understands the difference between an institute and an institution. Uh, no.

So, how much did you spend?

The Count on February 23, 2012 at 10:46 PM

How exactly does this trample on religious liberties? As far as I can tell, this bill orders the State of Maryland to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The religious institutions are under no obligation to perform same-sex wedding services.

LukeinNE on February 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Not yet. That’s next on the agenda. Don’t kid yourself.

JannyMae on February 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

gay sex is not sex.

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM

So is anal sex between two straight people sex? If not, that gives tons of guys a way to say “No, honey, I didn’t have sex with her!”

MadisonConservative on February 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

no thinking person would want to associate with.

Today, “no thinking person” wants to be associated with anyone who opposes abortion on demand, either.

And so your point is what?

Emperor Norton on February 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM

What is Marriage?
by
Robert George, Sherif Girgis, & Ryan T. Anderson

This is a 43 page Scribd document that’s worth your time.

Here’s the table of contents to give you an idea of what is in it:

I.

A. Equality, Justice, and the Heart of the Debate

B. Real Marriage Is – And Is Only – The Union of Husband and Wife

1. Comprehensive Union
2. Special Link to Children
3. Marital Norms

C. How Would Gay Civil Marriage Affect You or Your Marriage?

1. Weakening Marriage
2. Obscuring the Value of Opposite‐Sex Parenting As an Ideal
3. Threatening Moral and Religious Freedom

D. If Not Same‐Sex Couples, Why Infertile Ones?

1. Still Real Marriages
2. Still in the Public Interest

E. Challenges for Revisionists

1. The State Has an Interest in Regulating Some Relationships?
2. Only if They Are Romantic?
3. Only if They Are Monogamous?

F. Isn’t Marriage Just Whatever We Say It Is?

II .

A. Why Not Spread Traditional Norms to the Gay Community?

B. What About Partners’ Concrete Needs?

C. Doesn’t the Conjugal Conception of Marriage Sacrifice Some People’s Fulfillment for Others’?

D. Isn’t It Only Natural?

E. Doesn’t Traditional Marriage Law Impose Controversial Moral and Religious Views on Everyone?

Conclusion

INC on February 23, 2012 at 10:50 PM

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