Downer debate denouement winner: Newt
posted at 8:40 am on February 23, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Perhaps it’s fitting that the last debate of the season — we all hope and pray — ended up in the hands of the one candidate who mastered the format during the entire cycle. Newt Gingrich learned his lesson in Florida that his formula for debates was what worked, and that means staying positive, remaining “cheerful” rather than angry, and attacking only Barack Obama and the media. That formula allowed Gingrich to mostly steer clear of the internecine arguments that cropped up between Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, and Ron Paul, while speaking at length to the little in substance that actually came up at the depressingly repetitive debate.
That’s the trouble with holding 20 debates; they tend to look like repeats. The only topic of actual substance for the 2012 cycle that got discussed at any length was Iran, and it was a replay of the 15 or so arguments between Ron Paul and everyone else. Otherwise, the debate mainly focused on what everyone else has said about each other, and who voted for what in 1992 or 2001 or 2006. No one discussed Fast and Furious, no mention was made of Solyndra or LightSquared as examples of corruption in the current administration. Bare mention was made of anyone’s economic plans.
Some of the review was rather fresh, though, since this was Rick Santorum’s first debate as a solid frontrunner. Unfortunately Santorum seemed almost overprepared for the fight. Instead of providing a brief response and refocusing attention on current issues like the economy, Santorum kept explaining, and explaining, and explaining, and added an apology or two along the way. There is an axiom in politics: Explaining is not winning. Save the explanations for your web page, not for debates. Santorum came across as measured, honest, and open, but ended up sounding defensive almost all night long.
Mitt Romney didn’t do much better. While he scored points against Santorum, he had to twist himself in knots to do it. Santorum pointed out, for instance, that while Romney attacked him on earmarks as wasteful spending, Romney balanced his RomneyCare budget on the backs of federal taxpayers to the tune of $400 million, and that Romney certainly liked earmarks enough to ask Congress for a few during his Olympics rescue. This led to the odd e-mail moment when I received simultaneously a message from Team Mitt blasting Santorum over earmarks and another praising Romney for his rescue of the Olympics, which was only possible through Congressional intervention Mitt was busily condemning at the moment I received it. It fell to Gingrich, though, to concisely slap Romney by noting that his position seemed to be that Romney opposed earmarks he didn’t like but supported the earmarks that he himself got. Romney never got around to discussing his new tax plan in any detail (about which I’ll be writing later today), and ended up on the defensive himself a few times, especially on RomneyCare. He seemed almost desperate to get into a fight with Santorum all night long, and desperation is as much a political aphrodisiac as explaining is.
Ron Paul joined in the attack on Santorum, which prompted Santorum to imply that Paul and Romney are colluding to some degree:
Rick Santorum suspects something is up between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. Santorum had a tough night at the 20th, and likely last, Republican debate, held here at the Mesa Arts Center. He took a lot of attacks from Romney and a few from Paul, and he noticed that Paul and Romney didn’t seem to go after each other. When it was all over, and Santorum met reporters, he didn’t try to hide what he was thinking.
“You have to ask Congressman Paul and Gov. Romney what they’ve got going together,” Santorum said. “Their commercials look a lot alike, and so do their attacks.”
“They’ve got something going on?” a reporter asked Santorum.
“You tell me,” Santorum said.
Er … no. Paul was simply Paul last night, attacking Santorum on all of the normal issues on which Paul would attack. There are two facts to keep in mind. First, Santorum got the brunt of the attacks because Santorum is the front runner. He also ended up with the most air time last night for the same reason. Second, it was Santorum who attacked Paul a lot in the earlier debates over Paul’s position on Iran, and who scored a lot of points on those attacks, showing Paul to be on the fringe when it comes to foreign policy. Last night was Paul’s chance for some payback, and it doesn’t take collusion to explain what happened in the debate.
Does this debate move the needle for anyone? I doubt it. Gingrich had a very good debate but not a real gamechanger, and his position in the polling has dropped so low nearly everywhere that he’d practically need the other three men on stage to declare themselves Kennedy Democrats in order to get out of that hole. Santorum may have rattled the confidence of some new supporters and give undecideds less reason to join his column, but it wasn’t a terrible performance such as Rick Perry’s debates in September and October, and Santorum did have some good moments as well. Romney spent the night attacking his opponents (mainly Santorum but also Gingrich on a couple of occasions) rather than talking about himself, which is exactly the complaint that Republican voters have had about his entire campaign. His line, “I don’t mean to be critical,” was a laugh line for all the wrong reasons, and it encapsulates Romney’s insincerity about his campaign style in six easy words.
All in all, this was a depressing and mostly useless debate. Byron York sums it up well:
After all the recent controversy, who would have bet that the topic of contraception would not come up until well into the debate, that Santorum would answer it with restraint and grace, and that Romney would immediately adopt Santorum’s position as his own? It wasn’t at all likely, but it happened. And it was one of the best moments in a debate that had very few really good moments.
Let’s hope it’s the last of the debate moments, too.
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Got to pay to play.
VorDaj on May 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Surprise!
rob verdi on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Sooooo…
… What does one do on such a slow news day?
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Truth for power! Hillary 2016!
rob verdi on May 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM
All in the family…..
ted c on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
I see. But it’s really a vast right-wing conspiracy?
John the Libertarian on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
it’s all good
/
cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
the liberal democratico-entertainment-newsmedia complex is more concerning than Eisenhower’s military industrial complex.
ted c on May 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Hand in glove
The sun shines out of our behinds
No, it’s not like any other love
This one is different because it’s us
forest on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
It’s no surprise NBC is just a cheap slut.
Marcus on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Kind of makes you wonder what is really going on behind the scenes…
… doesn’t it?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Obowma was getting fitted for his uniform…
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Apparently the AP guys don’t have anyone working there too.
Bishop on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
NBC’s White House correspondent is Ben Dover.
aunursa on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Maybe that’s where the AP screwed up. No White House hostage.
Cicero43 on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM
The GOP needs to eefectively shut down the government until the administration comes completely clean on the Benghazi, F&F, AP wire tap, and IRS issues.
NO legislation, NO judges, NO approvals of any sort until they have the answers they want on this WH’s activities. If he is going to act like a child, treat him as one.
Tater Salad on May 13, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Fox News red-headed step sister clearly.
hillsoftx on May 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM
I’m not so sure this level of incest is business as usual for the democrat party. I think the Obama administration purposely hired all these relatives of execs so they would have more influence over the networks. After all, you wouldn’t want to run with negative coverage on a story if it would get your son fired from his cushy government job.
Wigglesworth on May 13, 2013 at 5:44 PM
He already had that fitted some time ago. Just awaiting the most appropriate moment to present himself to the nation in its inaugural appearance.
hawkeye54 on May 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM
If you think it’s bad now, just wait until Obama’s third term.
John the Libertarian on May 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM
This could explain why the other AP got their phone records seized.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Unexpected!
PattyJ on May 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Since I can’t tell the difference between the two….
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Nah, the WH probably already has their communications devices bugged. No one is immune. Least of all those already in Barry’s house. In the back of your mind you always have to keep a closer eye and ear on those closest to you.
hawkeye54 on May 13, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Movin’ on up….
Movin’ on up…..
To a deluxe White House…in the sky..high..
Electrongod on May 13, 2013 at 5:51 PM
This is what happens when 99% of journalists are liberal. You get what you sow…lies and more lies…
kirkill on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
I finally figured it out…Hugo Chavez died of tyrant envy!
cajunpatriot on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
How about this?
aquaviva on May 13, 2013 at 5:53 PM
i know THREE, personally, guys named ben rhodes.
t8stlikchkn on May 13, 2013 at 5:54 PM
FDRs 7th
carters 2rd
nixons 3rd
rolled into one
t8stlikchkn on May 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM
And here I thought the most inbreed tyrants were the Game of Thrones Lannister clan…
Bruno Strozek on May 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM
I moved to get away from Chicago and then the ignorant imbeciles elected bat face to the white house who subsequently turned the damn country into Chicago.
tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM
May the clusterfarks all beget travesties.
They are destroying the land.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM
finally!!! completion of the white house and media circlejerk
burserker on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
I think I remember this movie coming out in the eighties.
All I’m saying.
Axe on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Celebs like Timberlake and Biel make their livings playing make believe. I am sure going along with the fairy tale of Obama is easy for them to do.
Rockshine on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
It’s the Prog big tent..!
Grennell has been all over this on Twitter…BTW, wasn’t he the guy that Romney let go..?
d1carter on May 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Nothing to see here! Move on . org…………..
GarandFan on May 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Incest, at the highest levels.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Andrea Mitchell sleeps next to the money corps.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM
There seems to be pressure building on the MSM to go after Obama. I would love to know where this flood of negative coverage is coming from. This is the kind of stuff that used to happen to Gingrich or Palin.
It’s almost unthinkable to see this happen to Obama.
Doomberg on May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Carney is a huge conflict of interest…well, tha’s the least about this Goebbels of the WH.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Russia laughs her collective azz off, so does the world.
The US has zero moral authority and decency left. Obama killed them, on purpose.
Clowns inhabit the WH. The fools who brung them deserve them in full.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:07 PM
The two top stories on HA, one next to the other, are prefect for the times.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM
WORTH REPEATING:
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
…yeah – in your dreams!
TeaPartyNation on May 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Someone lifted the covers and found…the media and the gov’t in bed.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM
The Emperor’s News Clothes.
profitsbeard on May 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM
It gets better
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM
This seems pretty apropos to our media and most media consumers in the US: Priorities
AZfederalist on May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM
The trolls are verklempt today.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM
Which makes it every other day ending in “day”.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM
More inbred than a European royal family.
I expect in about 30 years, you’ll see a news anchor who’s four feet tall, with a three-inch underbite, bulging eyes, and an Adam’s apple that looks like he swallowed a doorknob.
CurtZHP on May 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Is there not a market out there for a network that would really present the “news” without spin? I divested my stock in GE years ago when they went lib and wrote a letter to I Melt. I would think shareholders would demand to make a little money on their investments. When 50% of the people don’t watch you no matter what, there is a problem.
hip shot on May 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM
You misspelled “she”.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 6:38 PM
“Nattering Nay-Ho’s of Negativity”. Against Conservatives anyway.
chickasaw42 on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM
What you don’t know is how they’re hiding the lizard skin.
lester on May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Just give me a chance, I’ll put the Science in Poly Sci!
You see, science has the answer.
The Founders wanted no restriction on the press so the vermin knew exactly where they were going to move in.
Species can develop into vermin if introduced into regions where they find favourable living conditions, and if they face few or no natural enemies there. In such cases, humans often choose to fill the role of the predator to limit the danger to the environment. Examples of vermin include goats on the Galápagos Islands, Rabbits in Australia or cats on Prince Edward Islands. Rats, mice, and cockroaches are common urban and suburban vermin.
IlikedAUH2O on May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Tommy Christopher says that people who think Benghazi is important don’t even know where it is. Did you know that geography was an intricate part of your ability to care that your president is a lying S.O.B.?
Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Correction
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Are the relatives of top NBC execs being punished by the WH or something? Is that why NBC is trying to suck up to and cover for the WH even more than the others?
farsighted on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
lester has nothing.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Why no mention that Ambassador Rice’s husband is producer of ABC News?
pat on May 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM
yeh lester does have nothing.
every time I think I have encountered the dimmest troll someone reminds me there is someone even dimmer.
CW on May 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM
I’m shocked shocked I tell you, NOT!
mmcnamer1 on May 13, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Yep I have a “I don’t believe the liberal media” bumper sticker on my car for a reason..but wow, I had no idea how far in bed they are with Obama..insanity
sadsushi on May 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM
According to Glenn Beck’s show today on The Blaze, NBC is also in the tank: Jay Carney is married to the senior national correspondent Clair Shipman.
FloatingRock on May 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM
We need this mapped out with that secret CIA software used to detect terrorist cells.
slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM
We already have Candy Crowley.
slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Gee…Il Duce and his cronies are having quite a week huh?
workingclass artist on May 13, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Why did it take so long for anyone to notice this???
albill on May 14, 2013 at 8:53 AM