Video: Top U.S. commander in Afghanistan apologizes for Koran-burning

posted at 9:39 pm on February 21, 2012 by Allahpundit

Is this S.O.P.? There’s been plenty of cultural friction in Afghanistan over the past decade but offhand I can’t recall a U.S. general going so far as to cut a video begging forgiveness of the locals for an offense — not even after the clip of Marines urinating on dead Taliban made the rounds worldwide last month. Either Gen. Allen remembered what happened the last time Afghans went berserk over a Koran-burning and wanted to do everything he could to prevent a reprise — too late, although at least no one’s been killed yet — or he (or his superiors) calculated that this incident could threaten those perpetually on-again-off-again peace talks with the Taliban.

It was indeed apparently an accident:

According to Afghan workers who witnessed the events, around 10 or 11 p.m. on Monday a dump truck escorted by a military vehicle drove up to the landfill at Bagram Air Base, where 20 or so Afghans work. Two uniformed NATO personnel, a man and a woman, began unloading bags of books from the back of the truck and throwing them into a pit for incineration. NATO officials said it was not yet clear if the two people were troops or civilians. Some civilians also wear military uniforms and can easily be mistaken for soldiers. The Afghan workers described the pair as Americans.

Accounts from some of the workers at the landfill suggested that the two people were oblivious to the significance of what they were doing. They made no attempt to hide the books, instead appearing to be routinely carrying out their duties.

“When we saw these soldiers burning books, we moved closer to see what was going on, and one of the boys said, ‘It is Holy Koran,’ ” said one of the laborers, Zabiullah, 22. “And we attacked them with our yellow helmets, and tried to stop them. We rushed towards them, and we threw our helmets at the vehicles.”…

The two NATO personnel drew back, but two bags of books they had already thrown into the pit had begun to burn.

On the one hand, it’s hard to believe that after 10 years NATO workers wouldn’t know that lighting up a Koran in Kabul means a guaranteed rampage. On the other hand, if they’re young Americans, the concept may be so foreign to them that they didn’t think twice. Back home, the only group that rampages when a Koran is burned is the media.

As for why they were disposing of the Korans, it was because they wanted to … avoid a jihadist rampage:

A military official says Muslim holy books that were burned in a pile of garbage at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan had been removed from a library at a nearby detention center because they contained extremist messages or inscriptions.

A military official with knowledge of the incident told The Associated Press on Tuesday that it appeared the Qurans (Korans) and other Islamic readings were being used to fuel extremism, and that detainees apparently were leaving notes for one another inside them.

Said one Afghan employee at Bagram of the local hysteria, “Whoever goes back to work will be killed. They’ll think of us as traitors.” Exit question: The decision to pull out a year early is looking better every day, huh?


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RIOTS!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM

He can apologize until the cows come home, not going to make any difference. The religion of rage is not interested.

clippermiami on February 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM

This comes straight from the Commander-in-Chief, and it’s disgusting.

SouthernGent on February 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

The WH behind the Commander’s apology?

whatcat on February 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Jihadists are just like Liberals, they’re just looking for a reason to be outraged. For public consumption only.

ronsfi on February 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

It’s Rick Santy’s fault!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Well…at least there aren’t any pictures of Military Personnel peeing on the Korans.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 21, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Do they have paper shredders in Afcrapistan ?

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Exit question: The decision to pull out a year early is looking better every day, huh?

funny how that is working out.

BTW; that friggin garbage pit at Bagram is atrocious, I hate it. I can still smell it.

ted c on February 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM

RIOTS!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2012 at 9:42 PM

It’s not Friday…yet

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Pull out.

mythicknight on February 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM

They will all have to go to sensitivity training and wear Burqas for a year!

KOOLAID2 on February 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM

What a dhimmi. What a disgrace. His oath is to the United States Constitution, not to the stinking filthy book of hate by the piece of crap Mohammad. What if the muslims don’t accept his bowing and scrapping? Will he kiss some korans?

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM

I blame Satan…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM

It won’t matter. They will seek to kill us no matter our decency.

Bmore on February 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM

This comes straight from the Commander-in-Chief, and it’s disgusting.

SouthernGent on February 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM

What’s exactly disgusting? The apology?

joana on February 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Is he blinking a message?

Fallon on February 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM

George Patton would slap and kick this gutless traitor Gen. Allen into kingdom come.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 9:49 PM

what would GEN Pershing do???

ted c on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Can we just skip all the in-between bullsh!t and let them kill us already?

YoungAmerican on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Since when do our armed forces apologize for destroying enemy/terrorist propaganda materials? Oh yeah, every since mullah obama seized control. America is at war with the terrorist-cult of islam.

Pork-Chop on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Pathetic. The US Century is over. Clearly we are a declining power…sad.

Doomsday on February 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

“If we would just stop meddling in other countries business…this would have not happened!!!!” Ron Paul

Electrongod on February 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

A military official says Muslim holy books that were burned in a pile of garbage at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan had been removed from a library at a nearby detention center because they contained extremist messages or inscriptions.

Doesn’t a k’uran fresh off the printing press contain “extremist messages or inscriptions”?

slickwillie2001 on February 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Petraeus raised him well.

platypus on February 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I may have missed it, if I did my mistake, did we ever get an apology for the mishandling of our war dead?

Bmore on February 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Well then, I just hope that the koran I go get in retribution has soft and absorbent pages, and maybe a handy hole pre-drilled on one corner so I can hang it on a string next to the commode. When I’m done with it, burning would be the least of its issues. So… just keep apologizing.

Scribbler on February 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Again, I think we need to use this to our advantage — we need someone to build armor completely covering the body out of copies of the Koran, and give one of these suits of armor to every soldier.

Then any gunfire from the Taliban that hits home is desecration of the Koran, and deserving of appropriate local punishment.

unclesmrgol on February 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

“If we would just stop meddling in other countries business…this would have not happened!!!!” Ron Paul

Electrongod on February 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Denmark on line 2 for Dr Paul. Denmark on line 2.

sharrukin on February 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Has the religion of pieces told us how to dispose of their sacred texts? We burn American flags out of respect….

Branch Rickey on February 21, 2012 at 9:55 PM

As for why they were disposing of the Korans, it was because they wanted to … avoid a jihadist rampage:

A military official says Muslim holy books that were burned in a pile of garbage at a U.S. military base in Afghanistan had been removed from a library at a nearby detention center because they contained extremist messages or inscriptions.
A military official with knowledge of the incident told The Associated Press on Tuesday that it appeared the Qurans (Korans) and other Islamic readings were being used to fuel extremism, and that detainees apparently were leaving notes for one another inside them.

Well it that’s not a metaphor, I don’t know what is.

cynccook on February 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

OT, what if a R would be in this bed?

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Wonder how many Korans would be ignited with a couple of 50 megaton bombs? Let ‘em actually see the hand of God.

Mitoch55 on February 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Burned some Korans? Big freakin’ deal.

Hey…they burned some Bibles a few years back and no one said a word. Oh wait, something different. I know! Christians don’t go around lopping heads off when their holy book is mistreated.

IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

This is so embarrassing. The apology, not the koran burnings.

sbvft contributor on February 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I can’t recall a U.S. general going so far as to cut a video begging forgiveness of the locals for an offense — not even after the clip of Marines urinating on dead Taliban made the rounds worldwide last month.

Zen Koan:

Is it better that a man be pi$$ed on
…than pi$$ed off?
:P

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Since when do our armed forces apologize for destroying enemy/terrorist propaganda materials? Oh yeah, every since mullah obama seized control.

Pork-Chop on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

No, it started with George “Islam is a great religion of peace” Bush.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Well…at least there aren’t any pictures of Military Personnel peeing on the Korans.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 21, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Awww, gee. I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but apparently there was no water at the burning site and when the military personnel realized just what was on fire….

cynccook on February 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM

I cannot take seriously any religion whose followers feel the need to riot because someone has insulted or harmed their holy book, or criticized their prophet.

You are welcome to burn Bibles and insult the Jesus all day long. I will take a nap. (:

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM

what would GEN Pershing do???

ted c on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

What would Charles Martel do?

What would Pope Urban II do?

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

What’s wrong with my post??? Did I use a forbidden word?

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

You are welcome to burn Bibles and insult the Jesus all day long. I will take a nap. (:

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

What if the only way to put out the fire was to pee on the Koran?

Deano1952 on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

what would GEN Pershing do???

ted c on February 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Fill the pit with pig entrails, a couple of dead terrorists lying face down, and then add some more gasoline…

… Why do you ask?

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2012 at 10:01 PM

apologising to the most repressive ideology on the planet…excuse me while I vomit…

thedevilinside on February 21, 2012 at 10:01 PM

cynccook on February 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Oh my…
:D

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Petraeus raised him well.

platypus on February 21, 2012 at 9:53 PM

He sure did. I’m sure he is very proud right now. Now if he could just find some way to blame it on Israel.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Damn right he should apologize because burning a book is much more horrific than stoning rape victims or genitally-mutilating females or beheading Jewish journalists or killing daughters who bring shame upon their families by dating or dressing western or wanting an education or…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM

What’s wrong with my post??? Did I use a forbidden word?

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Quite possible–there are scores of them. I just had to redo a link because linking to CNN will get your whole post zapped into the ether.

IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Most appropriate televised message from the General: “You and your Muslim outrage can go f*** yourselves.”

quikstrike98 on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Hey…they burned some Bibles a few years back and no one said a word. Oh wait, something different. I know! Christians don’t go around lopping heads off when their holy book is mistreated.
IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

That was my comment (that hasn’t appeared yet). Maybe the CNN link is bad. Anyway, I don’t remember apologies by Team Obama on that.

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I’m going out to buy a Koran (aka terror manual) so I can partially burn it then display it in my living room in a jar of urine. I know, not original since it’s already been done with a crucifix, but I don’t remember any rioting or deaths over that.

Doomsday on February 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Quite possible–there are scores of them. I just had to redo a link because linking to CNN will get your whole post zapped into the ether.
IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Must have been the link. It was from CNN.

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

… Why do you ask?

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Just for a little ….ahhh….historical reference, if you will.

thankyouverymuch.

ted c on February 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Wonder how many Korans would be ignited with a couple of 50 megaton bombs? Let ‘em actually see the hand of God.

Mitoch55 on February 21, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Build a Mohammedan a fire and he will be warm for the night. Set a Mohammedan on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life. – Sun Tzu’s Great Nephew

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Was there a pee riot? I seemed to have missed that one. Here we are at another koran-got-harmed flaming meltdown number 112111111ty! I hope none of our military were injured. These stone age people are hopeless. There is a long, brutal dark age descending over large swaths of our world and there is almost nothing we can do about it except arm ourselves and a draw a line.. somewhere.

Urban Infidel on February 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Back home, the only group that rampages when a Koran is burned is the media.

ding ding ding

a crucifix in a jar of pi$$=art here…

cmsinaz on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Doomsday on February 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Origami Pigs are the way to go.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Bowing to a bunch of third world terrorists! We are now a mere shadow of our former selves….. disgraceful and sad. Anybody who doesn’t think Islam is dangerous is a fool.

Buy more guns and ammo

ultracon on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

If anyone wants to link to cnn go to http://tinyurl.com/ and make a tiny url and use that in your link.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

I’m going out to buy a Koran (aka terror manual) so I can partially burn it then display it in my living room in a jar of urine. I know, not original since it’s already been done with a crucifix, but I don’t remember any rioting or deaths over that.

Doomsday on February 21, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Make sure it is in arabic, not an English version.
The original is always the best :P

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

That was my comment (that hasn’t appeared yet). Maybe the CNN link is bad. Anyway, I don’t remember apologies by Team Obama on that.

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

It was DEFINITELY your CNN link. Can’t link to them at all. It has something to do with CNN being real idiots about their content.

IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM

There is a long, brutal dark age descending over large swaths of our world and there is almost nothing we can do about it except arm ourselves and a draw a line.. somewhere.

Urban Infidel on February 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM

There is plenty we could do about it, but the muslim in chief won’t allow it. We must not offend his muslim brothers and sisters (and aunts/uncles, half brothers, etc).

Doomsday on February 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM

This gets at one reason I became less of a neo-con after a stint working with the military. I realized that we don’t have an ideology to offer the locals in our nation-building excursions that is any stronger than the ideology they have. We want to win hearts and minds but have nothing to point them toward.

By way of illustration, a SOCOM officer was telling me about guys in his unit converting to Islam, and that it didn’t bother him. It bothers me. As a nation we no longer know what we stand for, so we end up standing for almost nothing, and apologizing for everything that made us American.

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM

This makes me ill.

O is castrating the greatest military in history.

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Make sure it is in arabic, not an English version.
The original is always the best :P

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Yes, softer, more absorbent.

cynccook on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

General Allen to go on German TV tomorrow to apologize for any copies of Mein Kampf that American troops may have burned during and right after WWII.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

This makes me ill.

O is castrating the greatest military in history.

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Bush removed one ball and now Obama is removing the other, but the generals are holding the troops down while it is being done.

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:12 PM

I have a brother-in-law in construction. About 20 years ago he was doing some work on masques in Indiana and southwest Michigan. His comment at the time, “You’re notgoing to believe these people. They are absolutely crazy.

And, John McCain, Lucy Graham and Karl Rove want us to get involved in Syria.

bw222 on February 21, 2012 at 10:13 PM

As a nation we no longer know what we stand for, so we end up standing for almost nothing, and apologizing for everything that made us American.

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM

And those who believes in nothing will always lose to those who believe in something.

sharrukin on February 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM

And, John McCain, Lucy Graham and Karl Rove want us to get involved in Syria.

bw222 on February 21, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Yes, by all means, arm these rebels! They’re Muslim, so how bad could they be? It’s a peaceful religion.

/sarc

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM

How dare they! The West should NEVER! NeverNEVER be seen burning Koreans!!11!!1! Why, the very NERVE! Wha-? They burned Korans?

Never mind.

~Emily Litella

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 21, 2012 at 10:16 PM

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Pretty much. Troops have to worry about head choppers from the front and nut choppers from the rear.

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Gee I feel so much better and safer now that we’ve apologized/sarc

FLconservative on February 21, 2012 at 10:19 PM

And, John McCain, Lucy Graham and Karl Rove want us to get involved in Syria.

bw222 on February 21, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Yes, by all means, arm these rebels! They’re Muslim, so how bad could they be? It’s a peaceful religion.

/sarc

jazz_piano on February 21, 2012 at 10:15 PM

And where does Marco Rubio stand? Is he with his girl friends on Syria as he was with Libya?

VorDaj on February 21, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I remind you that the Military term for killing or destroying the enemy is now “servicing the target”.

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM

This makes me ill.

O is castrating the greatest military in history.

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Too late

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM

What would Allen West do?

thedevilinside on February 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM

O is castrating the greatest military Country in history.

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM

FIFM.

FLconservative on February 21, 2012 at 10:24 PM

A big bunch of generals need one more star, to retire with way more per year. Only Obama can take care of them.

Whom do you think they’ll side with?

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2012 at 10:24 PM

What’s wrong with my post??? Did I use a forbidden word?

conservative pilgrim on February 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Quite possible–there are scores of them. I just had to redo a link because linking to CNN will get your whole post zapped into the ether.

IrishEi on February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

CNBC as well.

slickwillie2001 on February 21, 2012 at 10:25 PM

When an American city is nuked by these primates….wonder if the apologies will keep flowing?

katy on February 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Note to troops, and NGO’s: always burn Korans where no Muslims are watching.

You’d think this less would have been learned years ago.

Somebody is as stupid as a truffle seller at a pig convention to allow this idiocy.

profitsbeard on February 21, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Most Syrian Christians side with Asaad. Based on recent history, they have discovered the murdering secular Muslim dictator you know is usually preferable to the jihadist Islamic republic you don’t know.

bw222 on February 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Exit question: The decision to pull out a year early is looking better every day, huh?

When the country’s leadership from the White House has no intentions of winning the war and declares the “Taliban are not our enemy”…then yea….surrender is assured.

“Obama got Osama but lost the war”…….

……….only a liberal could call this a successful foreign policy.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 10:40 PM

What’s exactly disgusting?

joana on February 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM

You

Schadenfreude on February 21, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Exit question: The decision to pull out a year early is looking better every day, huh?

We should have started leaving the day we elected a Manchurian Candidate. The public had no will to win by then and it was impossible for the situation to get any better unless he AND the VP choked on their arugula salads.

MelonCollie on February 21, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Islam as it stands is a cult more or less rather than a true religion. I am so sick of its terrorism and degradations that I can muster little sympathy for those angered by a couple of crisped korans. You even carry a bible over there and you are looking at losing your life and/or your head.

I have NO sympathy for islam: I USED to but no more.

Regression or reality?

I say reality.

Sherman1864 on February 21, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Why in the world did you ever have sympathy for islam???

Thats just ridiculous.

KMC1 on February 21, 2012 at 11:17 PM

the greatest military power in the world buckles at the knees when 7th century nomads scream at the top of their puke-filled lungs.

williampeck1958 on February 21, 2012 at 11:36 PM

They should have burned them where the Buddhas of Bamiyan one stood and told them to shove their indignation and choke on their calls for tolerance.

Stephen Macklin on February 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM

A confused Karl Rove blamed Sarah Palin.

viking01 on February 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Taught so in college. Comparative Religion Studies. Taught it is one of “The Great Religions”. Since realized it is not….

Sherman1864 on February 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM

They should have burned them where the Buddhas of Bamiyan one stood and told them to shove their indignation and choke on their calls for tolerance.
Stephen Macklin on February 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Exactly!

Sherman1864 on February 21, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Absolutely nauseating. To think that the once greatest nation on earth would grovel and kiss the putrid ass of a 7th century barbarian horde of vile pukes is unbelievable. This is the ultimate lowest Obama could ever shame the USA. God Damn his filthy ass.

infidel4life on February 21, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Exit question: The decision to pull out a year early is looking better every day, huh?

yup

DBear on February 22, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Any perceived weakness, whether existent or not, will only invite mayhem.

This is beyond stupid.

hillbillyjim on February 22, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I don’t know which wears me out more. The Stone Age stupid, violent, gleefully suicidial Islam or our embarrassing, enabling New Castrotti response to their intractable hostilty to decent civilization.

HatfieldMcCoy on February 22, 2012 at 12:45 AM

As long as his men keep killing the guys who are trying to kill them, I could care less what he says to keep the locals happy. I’d prefer our commanders not to grovel, but hey, a Democrat is in the white house, what do you expect?

Professor de la Paz on February 22, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Every time Muslims are violent, we give them what they want.

How could policy like that ever backfire?

logis on February 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM

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