Russia “resets” to nuclear-weapons, “military-purpose spacecraft” expansion

posted at 3:05 pm on February 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

In early 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov with a supposed “reset button,” intended to symbolize a new era of friendship between the two nations after the retirement of George W. Bush.  The button didn’t actually say “reset” in Russian; thanks to a faulty State Department translation, it said “overcharge,” and was written in Latin rather than Cyrillic script.  That was an embarrassingly silly start to the so-called “smart power” foreign policy of the Obama administration, which thought that Russia could be wooed through sweet talk into supporting US interests.  Despite the reset button and a retreat on the anti-missile shield that left our allies in Poland and the Czech Republic holding the political bag, Russia has not changed its position at all on Iran, Georgia, or any other US security or economic concerns.

And now, thanks to a new militarization push by Vladimir Putin, the only thing that may be reset is Russia’s nuclear arsenal:

Russia’s armed forces will receive over 400 modern intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), more than 100 military spacecraft and over 2,300 new tanks within the next ten years, Prime Minister and presidential candidate Vladimir Putin said.

Earlier media voiced fears that by 2020, Russia’ ICBM arsenal could reduce by more than half as over 400 missiles would go beyond their maximum service life without timely replacement.

“Within the next decade, the armed forces will receive more than 400 modern ground- and sea-based intercontinental ballistic missiles, eight ballistic missile submarines, about 20 general purpose attack submarines, over 50 surface ships and some 100 military-purpose spacecraft,” Putin wrote in a new article for the Rossiiskaya Gazeta government daily.

He said the number will also include “over 600 modern aircraft, including fifth-generation fighters, more than a thousand helicopters, 28 regimental sets of S-400 [SA-21 Growler] surface-to-air missile systems, 38 division sets of Vityaz air defense systems, 10 brigade sets of Iskander-M (SS-26 Stone) tactical missile systems, more than 2,300 modern tanks, some 2,000 self-propelled artillery systems and guns, as well as more than 17,000 military vehicles.” …

The Russian Defense Ministry is planning to acquire at least 10 Borey class strategic nuclear submarines, thoroughly upgrade its fleet of Tu-160 Blackjack and Tu-95 Bear strategic bombers, and equip its Strategic Missile Forces with formidable Yars mobile ballistic missile systems.

The addition of eight missile submarines and ten additional “strategic” submarines make this look a lot less like domestic defense and a lot more like having a long-range offensive capability.  Furthermore, the mobile ballistic-missile launchers should give the US some headaches.  The Yars was developed to defeat anti-missile shields like the one we had originally planned to install in eastern Europe to deal with Iran.  The expansion of the Yars deployment even after Obama’s retreat on the missile shield is a statement about the efficacy of American diplomacy in the “smart power” era.

Also, the “military-purpose spacecraft” pledge looks rather interesting as well.  That could refer to military-use satellites (such as this launch from a Proton-M rocket in September), but it’s hard to imagine why Russia would need one hundred military communication and intelligence satellites over the next decade.  This sounds like an aggressive step towards militarizing space, a direction we have noted from China but not so much from Russia until now.

So what are Obama’s nuclear plans?  Er

Even before becoming president, Obama said that he wanted a fundamental reevaluation of the place that nuclear weapons have in the nation’s security equation, that Cold War thinking had to be abandoned, and that we should even look forward to a world free of nuclear weapons sometime in the indeterminate future. Every administration develops its own rules, or military doctrine, describing the purpose of nuclear weapons and when and how they might be used, all of which it then sets forth in a document called The Nuclear Posture Review. The Obama administration, for the first time ever, made the Review public, opening it up for discussion. While his administration’s Review, released in 2010, hinted that it might soon be time to radically reevaluate the role of nuclear weapons in American security, it actually called for some very cautious baby steps (not the wild leaps that some conservatives seem to imagine) from the nuclear doctrines that go right back to the nuclear glory days of the Cold War.

The president then asked the Pentagon to develop, based on the Nuclear Posture Review, several options for what role U.S. nuclear forces should play. These are the options that were leaked and apparently include cutting up to 80 percent of the deployed nuclear weapons, leaving 300 or so ready-to-use nuclear warheads. Perhaps thousands more – the U.S. currently has 8,500 warheads – would remain in storage.

Small wonder the Heritage Foundation blasted Obama’s position today:

President Obama wants to reduce the nuclear arsenal to as little as 300 warheads. While this might seem like a lot, the targeting list is evolving more rapidly than at any point in history. The United States has more enemies than ever before and provides nuclear security guarantees to more than 30 countries. …

In addition, enemies can take steps to discourage or complicate U.S. counter-force targeting. They can disperse facilities and forces or hide them in tunnels or within population centers. Lowering the number of U.S. nuclear weapons will incentivize enemies to create more targets that can be attacked. As a result, the United States might not be able to stop an enemy force before it could attack. With lower numbers of nuclear weapons, the United States would be forced to threaten the population centers in other countries. A country that values freedom—for itself and others—above anything else should not divest itself of weapons that allow it to destroy enemy forces instead of civilian populations.

A review based on an arbitrary set of numbers instead of a sound assessment of the strategic environment can have devastating consequences for the U.S. and its allies. U.S. adversaries will not give up their weapons just because the United States gets rid of its nuclear arsenal. After all, since the end of the Cold War, the U.S. eliminated more than 80 percent of its nuclear weapons arsenal while North Korea, India, and Pakistan tested their nuclear weapons.

Obama’s most radical plan would give us fewer nuclear missiles overall than Russia plans to buy in the next ten years, and they’d be older, too.

Putin’s plans look like a reset of  the Cold War rather than an era of cooperation.  This kind of escalation in defense spending by the Putin regime should be very worrisome.  Iran represents a real danger to the US, but a fully rearmed and belligerent Russia would be an existential threat.  Maybe the US needs a reset button on its foreign-policy assumptions. (via Daniel Foster)

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So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

100 military-purpose spacecraft

good. I’m ready for the military space race. It will line my pockets.

hanzblinx on February 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM

hanzblinx on February 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Ahh, war profiteering…ain’t it grand?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Russia “resets” to nuclear-weapons, “military-purpose spacecraft” expansion

This is the natural response to American military weakness.

landlines on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

No worries folks, obama is on the case, all that military hardware doesn’t stand a chance against another bama speech.

ouldbollix on February 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM

So what? We’ve got the Volt! Investing in the future.

a capella on February 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Agreed. I mean, there are no examples of a country having financial troubles starting a war in an attempt to boost moral and the national treasury. None, I tell you. None.

LoganSix on February 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Where Alinsky is silent, Obamuh doesn’t act.

Inasmuch as Alinsky only wrote about the destruction of the America that he hated – from within – Obamuh is only left stumbling, when it comes to foreign affairs.

Our enemies know this.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 21, 2012 at 3:16 PM

400 ICMB`s!!

Must be getting ready to Counter Iran`s,under the mountian,
ManHattan style nuke build-up!!

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Agreed. I mean, there are no examples of a country having financial troubles starting a war in an attempt to boost moral and the national treasury. None, I tell you. None.

LoganSix on February 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

And there are no examples of a country fomenting revolution based upon those same financial troubles, either.

;O)

OhEssYouCowboys on February 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Ahh, war profiteering…ain’t it grand?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

second oldest profession

hanzblinx on February 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM

I see that photo and what comes to mind is that Hillary is handing over the surrender button. Glasnost and perestrioka, indeed.

freedomfirst on February 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM

/channel liberal on

You wingnuts are causing things to get worse. let Obama accelerate the demobilization of our military then Russia and the middle east will have nothing to fear from us. Only then can we have peace because those countries won’t need to keep building up arms.

America needs to stop all this war posturing and set the example. more talk and peaceful overtures by Obama will win over these misunderstood nations. Who can blame them for only wanting to protect themselves from an aggressive imperialistic America bent of controlling the worlds oil to enrich only the few wealthy top few.

/channel liberal off

Skwor on February 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I think he’s laughing at her.

Not with her.

NoDonkey on February 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Russia increases as US decreases

Thanks dear leader
/

cmsinaz on February 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM

It’s 3am & the phone is ringing in the WH. All calls are being forwarded to Michelle in Aspen.

BHO Jonestown on February 21, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Outstretch hand, meet clenched fist.

blammm on February 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

At least we lead (for the time being) in social networks. Soon it will be socialist networks.

/s (hopefully)

freedomfirst on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Agreed. I mean, there are no examples of a country having financial troubles starting a war in an attempt to boost moral and the national treasury. None, I tell you. None.

LoganSix on February 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

You need to be careful, ernie will take that as gospel instead of sarcasm. He may even quote you as a highly placed source.

Oldnuke on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

You don’t need ICBM’s to handle “interanl separatists”. You do know what the “I” in ICBM stands for, don’t you? That’s why we should be worried.

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The more I think about this the more I think this is the perfect time to tell Europe we are closing all our basis and pulling the troops back, perhaps that would finally get their attention.

Let’s see European socialism work with a new Mother Russia and no US umbrella.

Skwor on February 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

the hard left has pined for a unilateral disarmament for decades. So the ruskies and the chi-coms will have more deployed nukes. Oh, and of course a smaller Navy…and even Icebreakers. We lag behind most northern countries in Icebreakers…having to borrow them from other people now.

But the cronies get richer and the treasury gets more looted everyday

the sad thing is that there’s no competent opposition party.

r keller on February 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

interanl = internal

And I should have said “What the “IC” stands for”

Bitter Clinger on February 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Whatever else Russia may be it is in fact a land of massive natural resources and capabilities. There is nothing to stop it from rebuilding its military power and becoming at least the second most powerful nation in the world (with China being the first). Meanwhile, Obama and his merry band of Marxists are trashing our defenses and destroying our economy. My how things change.

rplat on February 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Dang, I may have to agree with ernesto, time to take a shower.

Can y’all say X-37?
None of the USSR’s super weapons ever matched expectations.
Never have they achieved the quality, or quantity they advertised.
And y’all think Russia will be any different?

cozmo on February 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Ezekiel 38

vcferlita on February 21, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Let’s see European socialism work with a new Mother Russia and no US umbrella.

Skwor on February 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I’d say hallelujah, except I figure if we remove those bases, we may have to re-enact Normandy some day.

cozmo on February 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Fools!
Obama’s huge Green Power windmills will swat down those Russian space craft with their huge blades. And his green solar power plants have double secret probation orbital laser capability to melt those commie sats to slag!
Now you Wingnut Republicans know what all those billions to Solyndra and First Solar really were for.
Reading Hot Air I can see that the 2012 Wingnut re-education camps will be filled.

philw1776 on February 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Sure, let’s give Russia or China an opportunity to dust off the ‘first-strike feasibility’ studies that they did in the 1960′s. Who knows what they will conclude.

slickwillie2001 on February 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Well, first thing that comes to mind is “How is Russia going to pay for this?” Putin must be planning oppressive taxation or something, perhaps something a little more.. Communistic maybe?

The people really put on edge by this should be China. The Kremlin is concerned about the Chinese military expansion as it threatens their sphere of influence directly. Also note that China and the West are now directly reliant upon each other economically– not so with Russia.

Right now the USA is a far lesser threat than their Southern neighbors, regardless of the treaties they currently enjoy.

Nethicus on February 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Despite the reset button and a retreat on the anti-missile shield that left our allies in Poland and the Czech Republic holding the political bag, Russia has not changed its position at all on Iran, Georgia, or any other US security or economic concerns.

“Send Obama over to bow repeatedly to Putin. Problem solved!” -Lib

visions on February 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Wow, and 0bama just gave Putin seven strategic islands – American territory rich with natural resources.

Where’s the gratitude?

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

This hardware is amazingly cheap when produced in a place where the word “union” still refers to USSR. There is a famous story, likely an urban legend, about astronauts who needed to write things down in zero gravity. Americans spent $10 billions to develop a special pressure pen; Russians just used a pencil.

Archivarix on February 21, 2012 at 3:31 PM

With a declining population base, I’m not sure how Russia plans on affording this sort of buildup. Perhaps in energy sales to Europe? We could counter with developing our own resources, thereby keeping our wealth in-house and building up our own economy. That could more than offset Russia’s wealth increase which would depend on foreign customers.

Having said that, we see the difference in forward planning. One must plan on the potential enemy’s future threats, not their current capabilities. Sure, the end result is an arms race. Better that than annihilation. Russia plans for offense, we plan for…

What are we planning for again?

Kraken on February 21, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Ahh, war profiteering…ain’t it grand?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM
second oldest profession

hanzblinx on February 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Che just wants you to give away for free, just like contraception.

RickB on February 21, 2012 at 3:33 PM

None of the USSR’s super weapons ever matched expectations.

cozmo on February 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM

What’s the closest you’ve ever been to one of the USSR’s weapons systems? Just because they didn’t measure up to their propaganda doesn’t mean they weren’t dangerous. They were some tough customers and they knew their business. Could we have beaten them in a war? Probably, but it would not have been a cakewalk by any means.

Oldnuke on February 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Russia increases as US decreases

Thanks dear leader
/

cmsinaz on February 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM

cmsinaz:)

********************* PEACE PRIZE ******************************

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Let’s put stickers showing an “X”ed-out missile on all our border signs.

rogerb on February 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

They actually drill for and sell their oil…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Despite the reset button and a retreat on the anti-missile shield that left our allies in Poland and the Czech Republic holding the political bag,

The day that Obama love officially died in Europe. My family there couldn’t believe Obama actually did that to them and now that Putin is rattling cages, the fear is strong once again.

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Off the backs of the Russian people like he always does.

JPeterman on February 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Russian oil companies keep $28 out of a barrel of oil while the government gets the rest. This was the policy but it could have changed.

RickB on February 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I think I’ll just move to Russia and marry some hot Russian woman to get the wait over with….

KMC1 on February 21, 2012 at 3:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ

The bomb they dropped here was supposed to be 100 MT, but instead they could only make it 50 MT! Ha, bomb FAIL!

Nethicus on February 21, 2012 at 3:40 PM

“a certain grasp of military affairs is vital for those in charge of general policy.” – Karl von Clausewitz

Whew, good thing we’ve got a community organizer in charge then.

Trafalgar on February 21, 2012 at 3:40 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Off the backs of the Russian people like he always does.

JPeterman on February 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Stole my post. He’ll ‘afford’ this the same way ghouls like Lenin and Stalin ‘afforded’ their massive war machines. The Russian people are about to get another wave of screwing over.

Russia can only go this route because, in a dreadful twist of irony, it is now the USA that is on the point of fiscal collapse. In other words there’s nobody who can try to drink them under the table like last time.

MelonCollie on February 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Also note that China and the West are now directly reliant upon each other economically– not so with Russia.

Nethicus on February 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM

You don’t know squat about Russia and its economy, do you? With Russian government’s unspoken approval, entire regions in Siberia were populated almost exclusively by North China migrants. Both countries allegedly benefit from it – Russia being able to increase its population where it is needed most, and China getting access to vast natural resources – but in the political light, China essentially has those territories occupied, and Russia is unable to dislodge them. Wait for two or three decades and the whole Eastern Russia will split off and merge with China without a single shot made. Meanwhile, Russia is much more dependent on Chinese manufacturing imports than the USA have ever been.

Archivarix on February 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Canopfor, I wonder where he keeps it

:)

cmsinaz on February 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Oldnuke on February 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Granted I’ve only been on a Foxtrot, but I’ve read most of the literature and listened to a bunch of the people in the know (pilots submariners and engineers). I didn’t say their stuff was crap, just not the cutting edge stuff that was claimed.

The Tango is good, but the German’s and Dutch build better.
China is buying American engines to put in Russian planes.

Are they tough, sure. Are they 12′ tall, not so much.

Would you prefer to be in a Russian built craft, or an American built one?

cozmo on February 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

How will Vladdy afford all this hardware?

innominatus on February 21, 2012 at 3:24 PM

He’ll sing in subway stations

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

No one cares that 0bama simply gave sovereign US territory to the Russians?

Interesting.

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I think obama purposely cancelled the space program, so that others would have the superior position. Just think if they load neucs in space and then launch it into the US.

Then he is trying to bankrupt our country, make sure we have no oil or gas available, food will skyrocket, no border control, so terrorists can come into our country at any time.

Made enemies of our friends, so who will ever come to our aid. Not the arabs, not the muslims! Even they hate his guts!

What concession has he made to the Chinese for out debt?
He is a devil and we are doomed unless we get rid of him.

Bambi on February 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Hahahaha! The only thing Putin failed to mention is that the word “decade” is being redefined to include “forever”. Most of this stuff is make-believe. Unhappily, the space based weapons might actually happen, despite being illegal by treaty. Putin is some special kind of scum, isn’t he?

MTF on February 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Obamuh is only left stumbling, when it comes to foreign affairs.
Our enemies know this.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 21, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Compare that to Putin:

“It’s obvious we won’t be able to develop our international position, our economy or democratic institutions if we cannot defend Russia,” Putin wrote in an article for the government-owned Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper. “We must not tempt anyone with our weakness.”

Obama could learn from him.

imasoulman on February 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Ahh, war profiteering…ain’t it grand?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Yea…just ask Obama who has closed the biggest arms deals (Saudi Arabia) in this nation’s history…
……..but like War, it’s okay now right ernesto…because a democrat is doing it.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

What’s the closest you’ve ever been to one of the USSR’s weapons systems? Just because they didn’t measure up to their propaganda doesn’t mean they weren’t dangerous. They were some tough customers and they knew their business. Could we have beaten them in a war? Probably, but it would not have been a cakewalk by any means.

Oldnuke on February 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

The continued existence of Israel is testimony to the ineffectiveness of Soviet/Russian military systems.

pedestrian on February 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Stole my post. He’ll ‘afford’ this the same way ghouls like Lenin and Stalin ‘afforded’ their massive war machines. The Russian people are about to get another wave of screwing over.

Russia can only go this route because, in a dreadful twist of irony, it is now the USA that is on the point of fiscal collapse. In other words there’s nobody who can try to drink them under the table like last time.

MelonCollie on February 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM

I’m Slovakian and my entire family is still there or in the Czech Republic, I became a U.S. citizen in 2004. Our fear of what Putin is going to pull is strong along with the Russian mafia, which is starting to spread into Eastern Europe.

You know when Gorbachev comes out publicly and states it’s time for Putin to step aside, there are serious problems.

JPeterman on February 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

No worries folks, obama is on the case,

ouldbollix on February 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Report: Obama Administration Is Giving Away 7 Strategic Islands to Russia

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/report-obama-administration-is-giving-away-7-strategic-islands-to-russia/

davidk on February 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

The continued existence of Israel is testimony to the ineffectiveness of Soviet/Russian military systems.

pedestrian on February 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Bull. It is a testimony to mental and moral capacity, or rather absence thereof, of Ron Paul supporters local Muzzies who operate it.

Archivarix on February 21, 2012 at 4:00 PM

No one cares that 0bama simply gave sovereign US territory to the Russians?

Interesting.

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

We have important stuff to worry about, like women not being able to get healthcare if the church don’t pay for their free contraception,
and stuff like Santy doubting Obama Hussein Odinga’s beliefs
and
the 1% who are mooching off the poor people
and stuff like that …..who cares if he is giving away US territory to Russia, he can do NO wrong, he is black and he wants Mooch to be proud of her country .
:(

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 4:00 PM

The continued existence of Israel is testimony to the ineffectiveness of Soviet/Russian military systems.

pedestrian on February 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Or Egyptian, Syrian, and Iraqi personnel/tactics. The Marines did a lot with poor weapons in the South Pacific.

Kraken on February 21, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Canopfor, I wonder where he keeps it

:)

cmsinaz on February 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

cmsinaz:Hopefully,where the Sun doesn’t shine,er,where the TSA
gloves have to go!(sarc):)

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Sorry. I missed this when I scanned the comments.

davidk on February 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM

No one cares that 0bama simply gave sovereign US territory to the Russians?

Interesting.

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Wasn’t this essentially done in 1991?

DoubleClutchin on February 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

…this is the same naive position liberals had concerning al-qaeda and Afghanistan before Sept. 11.

…..we watched liberals claim that Bush was a “War Monger” wanting a war with Iran….that “little threat” of a terrorist state that liberals claimed the joke of an 2007 NIE report proved that Iran “was not building a nuclear weapon” any time soon.

Gets really old seeing liberals dismiss international threats and the weapons we create only to use them later on and try to take credit for them (like missile defense,drones,and the War on Terror policies created by the Bush Administration).

Remember….liberals spent years calling Reagan a “War Monger” who was going to start WWIII only to come back later and try and take credit for it’s success’s with their “Charlie Wilson’s War” rewriting of History.

So when liberals claim…”so what”….know that this will turn into laughable claims and failures of “smart power” later.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Yea…just ask Obama who has closed the biggest arms deals (Saudi Arabia) in this nation’s history…
……..but like War, it’s okay now right ernesto…because a democrat is doing it.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Baxter Greene:Yup,its on Hopey’s Watch,but,I’m afraid,that the
Leftys need a re-set on their brainwashing,they
probably think,Bush is still in power!(sarc):)

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM

You don’t know squat about Russia and its economy, do you? With Russian government’s unspoken approval, entire regions in Siberia were populated almost exclusively by North China migrants. Both countries allegedly benefit from it – Russia being able to increase its population where it is needed most, and China getting access to vast natural resources – but in the political light, China essentially has those territories occupied, and Russia is unable to dislodge them. Wait for two or three decades and the whole Eastern Russia will split off and merge with China without a single shot made. Meanwhile, Russia is much more dependent on Chinese manufacturing imports than the USA have ever been.

Archivarix on February 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Wow, thanks for making my point for me.

The Russian people China as a bigger threat precisely because of these actions. Imagine having a an enemy stronghold already in your country. In the meantime, their army is modernizing while yours is falling apart. Russia can’t afford to have an “Eastern Split”, and China can’t afford to lose access to the Siberian frontier. China’s military improvements are forcing the hand of the Kremlin to prepare for just such an eventuality.

The giveaway here is Tanks & Artillery, and notice that they’re not improving their transport capabilities, which means they’re looking for in-theater threats. It’s not Poland or Finland here. It’s China.

The ICBM improvements are necessary and are an insult to Obama and the missile shield. And the mobile launchers are a paper-counter to the Missile Shield. But Putin’s laying out his contingency to quell the fears of the Russian people who see a far greater threat to the south in China, who are just as hungry for energy as Russia is and therefore pose a direct threat to Russia in hemispheric dominance.

If Russia was just interested in dropping trou and mooning the US, they’d announce the improvements to the missiles, bombers & mobile ICBM launchers. Everything else is a counter to China’s growing influence in what was the Russian Hemisphere.

And economically, Russia may be dependent upon Chinese goods, but their GDP is tiny compared to Europe and the US. If China had to decide between going to war with the West or going to war with Russia for energy expansion, they’d go for Russia every time because the trade off in natural resources versus domestic manufacturing would be much greater.

Nethicus on February 21, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Compare that to Putin:

“It’s obvious we won’t be able to develop our international position, our economy or democratic institutions if we cannot defend Russia,” Putin wrote in an article for the government-owned Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper. “We must not tempt anyone with our weakness.”

Obama could learn from him.

imasoulman on February 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Except that, again, pursuant to the teachings of Alinsky, it’s not in the nature of one of his disciples to strengthen America.

Obamuh, like Alinsky, wants America to crumble, so that he can remake it … in the image of Marxism.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 21, 2012 at 4:13 PM

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canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 4:14 PM

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Baxter Greene:Yup,its on Hopey’s Watch,but,I’m afraid,that the
Leftys need a re-set on their brainwashing,they
probably think,Bush is still in power!(sarc):)

canopfor on February 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Exactly….

The absolute failure of Obama’s “smart power” will fall so fast that the MSM will be unable to spin it as a “success” like they have been doing the past few years.

Besides the Russia’s and China’s ….
Obama’s “smart power” will be known for helping the jihadist gain more power and reach than at any time in modern history.
Our enemies are laughing at a US leader who thinks drone strikes and special ops will keep us safe from the threats abroad.

Epic fail.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Yea…just ask Obama who has closed the biggest arms deals (Saudi Arabia) in this nation’s history…
……..but like War, it’s okay now right ernesto…because a democrat is doing it.

Baxter Greene on February 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Also, please don’t forget the contributions of MoochXL , who made sure she did not meet the arms dealer Khashoggi when she was not vacationing in Spain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2630202/posts?q=1&;page=85
Remember how the media relentlessly covered this sale during those days ?

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM

We give NASA less than 1% of the budget. What did we expect, other world powers to just give up on space too?

mythicknight on February 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Vladimir Putin had better stop worrying about Western Europe and pay attention to the Chinese on his eastern borders.

The Chinese need living room, natural resources, and women of child bearing age. Russia has all of that and do not think for a minute that the Chinese aren’t casting eyes on what is available.

Lest we forget, they made it all of the way to the gates of Vienna last time.

Spots the Dog on February 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Just a misunderstanding. The button said “overcharge,” which they must have interpreted as “re-load.”

iurockhead on February 21, 2012 at 5:05 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto

You really are an idiot.

Gothguy on February 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Even before becoming president, Obama said that he wanted a fundamental reevaluation of the place that nuclear weapons have in the nation’s security equation, that Cold War thinking had to be abandoned, and that we should even look forward to a world free of nuclear weapons sometime in the indeterminate future.

All you need to know about the Obama Doctrine (as well as his economic and social policies) can be found in the lyrics of John Lennon’s “Imagine.”

Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world

You, you may say
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one
I hope some day you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

If ObaMao gets re-elected don’t be surprised to see him issue an executive order making this our new national anthem…

cicerone on February 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM

i cannot believe that i would like a Russian national leader so much over an American president.

say what you want about putin being a kgb thug, he still puts Russia first, second and third.

Obama ? America sure is a bother.

cougar on February 21, 2012 at 5:19 PM

The continued existence of Israel is testimony to the ineffectiveness of Soviet/Russian military systems.

pedestrian on February 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

The continued existence of Israel has more to do with training and preparedness than anything else. I don’t think you should so readily discount modern Russian military hardware. In military exercises with India, the Su-30 has bested both the F-15C (90% of the time) and Eurofighter Typhoon. It has also been rumored that the F-22 was able to be tracked and targeted by the Su-27/Su-30. The Russians have the S300 SAM system which is proclaimed by many (including some in the American military) to be the best SAM system in the world.

Russia is no longer able to force weapons systems on client states. They have to compete on the global market and in many cases offer the most bang for the buck.

ReaganWasRight on February 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Hahahaha…that is just SO Obama. (No disrespect intended. I have to laugh now. The alternatives are too painful to face.)

Abiss on February 21, 2012 at 5:27 PM

No one cares that 0bama simply gave sovereign US territory to the Russians?

Interesting.

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I care very much. What was Obama’s supposed rationale for this move?

I would like to hear Sarah Palin and John Bolton weigh in on this stupidity.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I care very much. What was Obama’s supposed rationale for this move?

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Bush did it !

burrata on February 21, 2012 at 5:51 PM

What will Barry do? Sleep on it. Ignore it. Not mention it. See? Problem solved.

GarandFan on February 21, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Wow, and 0bama just gave Putin seven strategic islands – American territory rich with natural resources.

Where’s the gratitude?

Rebar on February 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Wow. Just Wow!

Zero sure loves giving away our oil.

Who is John Galt on February 21, 2012 at 6:26 PM

This is the natural response to American military weakness.

landlines on February 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

This.

roy_batty on February 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Awright Hillary, the “Tooncinator” driving down the road of amatuer diplomacy. Watch out for that tree, ahhhhh.

jake49 on February 21, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

This is a profoundly idiotic question, but here goes:

1. Russia has a history of bellicose and belligerent behavior towards other nations, and a habit of attacking weaker nations, opponents or not, at the drop of a hat.

2. A country whose leadership is having political or financial problems is exponentially more likely to start a war than one whose leadership is stable.

3. Russia isn’t the only country or organization that would love to see us undone.

4. China

5. The encroachment of Middle Eastern enemies of the U.S. in our hemisphere.

6. Putin is a hard-ass bastard who would evaporate us without blinking if he saw no repercussions for himself personally.

And on, and on.

hillbillyjim on February 21, 2012 at 7:23 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

You could take that POV, Ernesto…but also remember that even if they didn’t use all that shiny hardware against us, they could sell it to people that WILL.

But the strategic stuff isn’t the scary part – Its the theater to small arms advances is where the real money comes from. Not to mention the asymmetrical stuff: especially Net-Intrusion and C3I gear.

Even if it isn’t bleeding edge, its still close enough that to be willing to give up even 5 years so they can come to parity or even make small leaps ahead is absurd.

BlaxPac on February 21, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I will say that I have to wonder if Putin isn’t trying to pull a Reagan on us and attempt to force us into more spending that we can ill afford; I don’t know how in hell Putin plans to pay for his grandiose campaign promises. It seems more than a bit much for Russia’s economic capability.

Then again, I doubt Putin gives a hoot whether the proletariat suffers or not if he can reinforce Russia’s internal security to a point that it won’t hurt his position. Also, there are many in Russia who are most likely applauding his nationalistic bombast, and support the build-up at all costs.

Ah, smart power is SO cool and hip.

hillbillyjim on February 21, 2012 at 7:29 PM

So what? Russia is a nation rotting from the inside unlike any other major power. Their security interests center around internal separatists. Putin is doing this to save his election chances. Why should we be worried?

ernesto on February 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM

It’s really hard to believe that somebody could actually be that clueless.

ghostwriter on February 21, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Russia “resets” to nuclear-weapons, “military-purpose spacecraft” expansion

Sigh.

Where’s Patrick McLanahan and the MegaFortresses when you REALLY need ‘em?

BlaxPac on February 21, 2012 at 8:05 PM

I will say that I have to wonder if Putin isn’t trying to pull a Reagan on us and attempt to force us into more spending that we can ill afford; I don’t know how in hell Putin plans to pay for his grandiose campaign promises. It seems more than a bit much for Russia’s economic capability.

Then again, I doubt Putin gives a hoot whether the proletariat suffers or not if he can reinforce Russia’s internal security to a point that it won’t hurt his position. Also, there are many in Russia who are most likely applauding his nationalistic bombast, and support the build-up at all costs.

Ah, smart power is SO cool and hip.

hillbillyjim on February 21, 2012 at 7:29 PM

They don’t have the economic wherewithal to compete with us on that scale. Their GDP in 2011 was about $2,400 billion, and there defense spending was about $95 billon. (Sadly, their government finances are in much better shape than ours: Tiny national debt, running surpluses if not modest deficits, and taxing only about 20 percent of GDP.) The problem with the buildup is that it’ll give them brand-spanking-new weapons to brandish and to bully their neighbors, as well as increasing the likelihood extremely dangerous weapons falling into the wrong hands. Obviously, we need to replenish and replace our stockpiles, just in case, but we can’t count on Obama to do it.

ghostwriter on February 21, 2012 at 8:07 PM

High-stakes poker with a bluff of militarizing space, a la Star Wars?

Bluff and bluster or long-term strategy for upending the U.S.?

Or both?

hillbillyjim on February 21, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Lest we forget, they made it all of the way to the gates of Vienna last time.

Spots the Dog on February 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Are you thinking of the Muslims in 1683? Those guys were from Turkey, see Battle of Vienna. Was there something else you were thinking of?

Gladtobehere on February 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM

It’s not just the numbers, it’s the quality of the weapons. Russia’s Topol-M ICBM is the fastest-descending ICBM on the planet, designed intentionally to push our national missile defense system beyond its capabilities.

We don’t have any system, nor will we ever have one as things stand now, that can intercept the Topol-M in the ascent or mid-course phase, when it is easier. The silo-based interceptors that were to be installed in Poland could have done so for one vector swath between Russia and North America. But that installation was cancelled by Obama.

The intercept systems he plans to replace it with are not capable of intercepting any of Russia’s in-service ICBMs. They can only intercept missiles like Iran’s. There is no plan to improve them to be capable of mid-course intercept for a modern Russian ICBM. Basically, Obama’s big “reset” with the Russians is, precisely, a “reset”: he has reset us to the MAD regime. He does not intend to defend the US against the Topol-M.

J.E. Dyer on February 21, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Thanks for the perspective, J.E.

Basically, Obama’s big “reset” with the Russians is, precisely, a “reset”: he has reset us to the MAD regime.

Cue the remake of “Dr. Strangelove”!

AesopFan on February 22, 2012 at 1:05 AM