New Romney strategy in Michigan: Try to Trump Santorum

posted at 11:35 am on February 20, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

What’s the prescription for a famously brilliant venture capitalist who has trouble connecting with blue-collar voters in his native state?  How about bringing in a far more controversial venture capitalist who’s claim to recent fame is in firing people on national television?  What could go wrong?

With just over a week to go before Michigan voters head to the polls, Mitt Romney is enlisting the help of one of his highest-wattage surrogates: Donald Trump.

The real estate mogul is preparing to spread his pro-Romney, anti-Rick Santorum message in a series of radio interviews this week on local stations from Traverse City to Detroit. …

In recent interviews, Trump has not been shy about his distaste for Santorum, who appears to be locked in a close race with Romney in Michigan — a high stakes contest for both candidates.

“All of a sudden, he says, ‘let’s become president?’ Trump said in an interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren earlier this month. “Give me a break.”

When Romney embraced Trump in Nevada while winning the mogul’s endorsement, I thought at the time that it was a smart move for a one-time event.  It got Trump out of position to make a third-party run, and it only cost Romney a single day of people reminding us of Trump’s fascination with Barack Obama’s birth certificate.  After the Nevada endorsement two weeks ago, Trump has been out of sight, and the Romney camp should have counted its blessings.

Now the Romney camp is explicitly linking itself to Trump, and in the strangest place imaginable.  The auto bailouts aren’t as popular in Michigan as some would like to think, but neither is Wall Street.  Romney has spent the last week emphasizing his roots in Michigan, with some limited success, but still finds the blue-collar vote elusive.  Sticking Donald Trump in the forefront as his surrogate isn’t going to help Romney connect with those voters, and it’s likely to help Santorum strengthen his lock on that vote.  Plus, if Trump goes off message and starts spouting off about birth certificates and his theories about Obama’s origins, it’s going to make Romney look like the candidate who can’t stay on message, not Santorum and his battle over the HHS mandate and the media narrative about contraception.

If this is a preview of the kind of strategy we’d see in a general election from Team Romney, then perhaps the electability issue is more open than some would think.


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CaveatEmpty on February 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Funny, I don’t remember several weeks ago, when it was a slam-dunk, an absolute positive, that Mitt was going to easily take Michigan, you post saying that was wrong…
Now that he is on the verge of losing, or making it close (which is a loss to his campaign), you have reservations?
Yeah, better try another tactic, like bringing in Trump…

right2bright on February 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Wasn’t Trump a favorite of the anti-Mitt crowd a few months back when he was asking for Obama’s birth certificate?

Tater Salad on February 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM

No bible thumpers.

freedomplow on February 20, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Yep. Religious zealots like Sanctorum are hated by the vast majority of bible believers. But of course the bible thumping zealot bigots think they are representative of most Christians.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM

You have to quit listening to that blowhard Trump. Santorum was nowhere near the biggest loser for an incumbent Senator, in fact more than 20 have lost by wider margins. That stalwart Repub Jacob Javits has the claim to fame as being the biggest loser.

Santorum isn’t even the worst incumbent Senate loss in the past 6 years.

Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) got her head handed to her in 2010 by about 23 points.

teke184 on February 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM

playblu on February 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Exactly right.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Well, there are genuine concerns about his electability. You can’t deny that he’s seen as a theocrat, and it’s fair to wonder how well that will play. Even if he doesn’t emphasize that stuff, his opponent surely will.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I get the concerns, but a lot of people are fretting about how the MSM will spin Santorum. Many of us are simply trying to get the point across that thinking that once they get the nod any GOP candidate will come out any better in their media coverage than the other. If Mitt gets the nod they will paint him as evil and backwards too. Same with Newt, or *shudder* Jeb Bush.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Does Pennsylvania counts as “Heartland”? Or the biggest loss for an incumbent senator in the history of the union doesn’t count as a “problem”?

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It does count. But then I remember that Santorum was re-elected once as Senator and I wonder why Romney wasn’t re-elected at all as governor. It’s another case where both candidates have warts…the issue is a push.

Deafdog on February 20, 2012 at 12:11 PM

He was re-elected facing a woefully underfunded candidate who received zero in resources from the DNC. Polls had Santorum up by 18 to 20 with just a little over a week to go. He won by 6. The next day he was target #1 for the DNC in 06. Once they campaigned against him, he lost by 18.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM

If Newt does drop out soon, has he given any hints on if he will endorse Santorum or stay out of it entirely? I know people think most of his supporters will swing to Santorum, but I have my doubts.
A Romney/Paul vs. Santorum/Gingrich cage match sounds interesting in any case.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM

If Newt drops out, he endorses no one or Obama. He’s bound and determined to blow up the GOP.

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Yep. Religious zealots like Sanctorum are hated by the vast majority of bible believers. But of course the bible thumping zealot bigots think they are representative of most Christians.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM

You pulled that out of nowhere. You statement is exactly the opposite of the way believers in the Heartland feel.

Cite your source, please.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:28 PM

BobScuba on February 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Mittens will not win women for the GOP. I’m from Massachusetts-left, right, center women can’t stand the guy. He will be lose to BHO in Dole like proportions.

wraithby on February 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM

So funny hearing all of you experts on the state of Michigan… posting from your homes out of the state. Trump has been a regular on the Paul W Smith show on WJR for a long time; the most listened to Michigan talk radio show in the state. Don’t think they’d have him on if it didn’t help ratings. I personally think Trump is a joke, but don’t think his appearance in MI will hurt Romney at all.

You all imply that Michigan is a fundamentalist religious state. Sure there are pockets, particularly on the west side of the state, but Michigan is a traditionally middle left state. The state voted to legalize medicinal marijuana last year and can you say… Jack Kevorkian, Carl Levin, Debbie Stabenaw, and Jennifer Granholm??

The far right social conservative stuff here could hurt Santorum in the end.

PKinMI on February 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM

You mean like Friess backing Santorum . . . Like a religious nut to another?

You weren’t around when I went ballistic on Rick Perry for talking a little bit too much about religion, were you?

But I’ll tell you who the religious nut is. Willard. He’s the Mormon in the race, remember?

He’s the guy who eschews all alcohol and coffee, despite the proven science about their health benefits. He has personally baptized the dead in a Mormon ritual. He believes Jesus and Satan were brothers. He believes that God was once a man, and that when he, Willard, dies he will become a God with his own planet to rule over.

And he wears sacred underwear. Yow!

Now, that’s nuts.

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Smart move by Romney. Trump is well liked by blue collar Americans and they’ll listen. Rick Sanctimonious will not take Michigan.

jan3 on February 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:13 PM
I don’t mind causing a bit of chaos every now and again. But it’s nice to be able to do so without breaking the law.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Can you just imagine Rove/Morris/McConnell/McCain/Boehner/Bushies and the rest of the Establishment trying to make sense of it all? It is so funny, they deserve every bit of this. They diss the TP & the Conservatives and want the electorate to vote for THEIR selection!! LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Before Mitt Romney was born, there were no rainbows.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Can you just imagine Rove/Morris/McConnell/McCain/Boehner/Bushies and the rest of the Establishment trying to make sense of it all? It is so funny, they deserve every bit of this. They diss the TP & the Conservatives and want the electorate to vote for THEIR selection!! LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Paging Dick Morris. Dick Morris, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:34 PM

But does Donald Trump really, really love Michigan trees and lakes?

Just Sayin on February 20, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Before Mitt Romney, Brylcreem just delivered to Olbermann’s house.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM

What I do know is that Santorum has little appeal outside the tiny group of Republican Primary voters this year. He will never excite (geez, I can’t believe I used that word in the same sentence with Santorum)the crossover groups necessary to win in the general. Santorum also has no economic experience or plans which he can communicate as his own…that is beyond some old college term papers. When was the last time we elected someone to POTUS with so little experience and gratuitous hot air- oh wait a minute!

I am no huge fan of Romney either. But Romney can at least pull together a coalition that will beat Obama. Add someone like Rubio to the ticket and we gradually work someone towards the presidency who is a true conservative.

But you’ll have to forgive me. This all uses logical,strategic, gradual insight which the Democrats have used for years to defeat Republicans and gradually reduce our Republic to a shadow of its former self. It also requires one stops fellating a candidate simply because he is the “true” conservative. No matter how un-enigmatic, bereft of ideas and unappealing he is to the general group of voters needed to win.

My opinion; if the Republican candidate is Santorum, he gets beat by Obama worse than McCain.

Marcus Traianus on February 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM

And how is it the Conservatives’ fault that Romney can’t catch on with moderates?

If they say “Newt’s Bain Capitol ads”, they’re morons because the Obama side would have trotted out that kind of stuff in October.

teke184 on February 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM

The Establishment Republicans are saying that. They hate Conservatives, so by supporting Santorum instead of their boy Romney they are blaming them. They don’t like the Tea Party either. It’s our fault Romney is not winning. It’s not theirs you know, LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM

But does Donald Trump really, really love Michigan trees and lakes?

Just Sayin on February 20, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Only if the trees are the right height, whatever that means.

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

I get the concerns, but a lot of people are fretting about how the MSM will spin Santorum. Many of us are simply trying to get the point across that thinking that once they get the nod any GOP candidate will come out any better in their media coverage than the other. If Mitt gets the nod they will paint him as evil and backwards too. Same with Newt, or *shudder* Jeb Bush.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Sure…regardless of the candidate, the media won’t be kind. But, it’s not just MSM spin, it’s what Santorum actually says and places an emphasis on. Why even say you believe birth control harms women, for example? The media won’t have to do anything special to paint him as a theocrat, and that sort of thing just doesn’t play well with the people in the middle. Add to that his lack of executive experience and his questionable record on spending, among other things, and I’m not sure what there is to draw people to his candidacy. You can’t win with just the base.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Santorum isn’t even the worst incumbent Senate loss in the past 6 years.

Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) got her head handed to her in 2010 by about 23 points.

teke184 on February 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Yeah, but she looked GREAT in a scarf!

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Before Mitt Romney was born, there were no rainbows.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Romney is related to Kim Jong-il?

idesign on February 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Romney’s campaign is an absolute grease fire..what is the big idea that he is running on? What specific plans does he have? Unleash the Trump is their killer move? God help us.

sDs61678 on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

You can’t win with just the base.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Then if the base manages to help Santorum secure the nomination anyway, we’ll see just how right or wrong I was about whether America deserves another four years of Obama or not.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:20 PM

LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Before Mitt Romney, a government-run Healthcare System did not exist in America.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

And how is it the Conservatives’ fault that Romney can’t catch on with moderates?

If they say “Newt’s Bain Capitol ads”, they’re morons because the Obama side would have trotted out that kind of stuff in October.

teke184 on February 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM

The Establishment Republicans are saying that. They hate Conservatives, so by supporting Santorum instead of their boy Romney they are blaming them. They don’t like the Tea Party either. It’s our fault Romney is not winning. It’s not theirs you know, LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM

To twist a phrase, Mitt’s inability to connect with the middle isn’t our problem.

teke184 on February 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Before Mitt Romney, a government-run Healthcare System did not exist in America.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

The closest we had was Medicare/Medicaid. But anyone who thought the libbies would stop there was being hopelessly naive.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Only if the trees are the right height, whatever that means.

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

.
Mitt inspires, and causes one to think. Maturity, and the aesthetic of trees blending into a landscape is oftentimes overlooked.

Actually, I look at palm trees quite differently now. And yes, their height can be severely disproportionate.

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

America will get four more years of Obama if Santorum is elected because he is the only candidate running with less economic experience than Obama.

People will vote for “the devil they know”. Rather than one that is unhinged in a sweater vest.

Marcus Traianus on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

CLUSTER!….CLUSTER!

KOOLAID2 on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

He was re-elected facing a woefully underfunded candidate who received zero in resources from the DNC. Polls had Santorum up by 18 to 20 with just a little over a week to go. He won by 6. The next day he was target #1 for the DNC in 06. Once they campaigned against him, he lost by 18.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Funny, I have lived here my whole life and I don’t
remember it that way…

“they” did not campaign against him, “they” campaigned
against BUUUUUUUUSSSSSHHHHHHH!!

Santorum did not help himself with an ad he ran in the Fall
that year, depicting Casey Jr. as a man with ties to
the Philly crime bosses…in part because there was no truth
to the charge….after people saw that ad, his polling dropped
considerably.

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Mitt inspires, and causes one to think. Maturity, and the aesthetic of trees blending into a landscape is oftentimes overlooked.

Actually, I look at palm trees quite differently now. And yes, their height can be severely disproportionate.

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I’ve looked at love from both sides now…

LOL.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM

People will vote for “the devil they know”. Rather than one that is unhinged in a sweater vest.

Marcus Traianus on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Then we deserve no less than that devil. Your argument here appears self-defeating to me.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Santorum’s out-polling Romney 2 – 1 in Michigan among overweight church ladies and their brow-beaten husbands.

jan3 on February 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Then if the base manages to help Santorum secure the nomination anyway, we’ll see just how right or wrong I was about whether America deserves another four years of Obama or not.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

True. I can’t imagine any Independent or moderate wanting B.O. There are so many Democratic voters that despise B.O. You have no idea. We often forget the millions that crossed over and voted for McCain/Palin in 2008!

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Jacob Javits and Blanche Lincoln were both defeated by larger margins than Santorum’s 18-point loss.

But they didn’t turn around and try to run for President, either.

Adjoran on February 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

He was re-elected facing a woefully underfunded candidate who received zero in resources from the DNC. Polls had Santorum up by 18 to 20 with just a little over a week to go. He won by 6. The next day he was target #1 for the DNC in 06. Once they campaigned against him, he lost by 18.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM

You just have to stay off those liberal websites, people might not take you seriously anymore….HAHAHAHA! I was being sarc. no one takes you seriously.
Aren’t you the one who stated that Rick was a fiscal liberal, and I pointed out that the National Taxpayers Union said he was in the top 10% of fiscal conservative Senators, and received a A rating? Yeah, you are, and I did…
But still you persist…my my, what a zealot you are…

right2bright on February 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

You all imply that Michigan is a fundamentalist religious state. Sure there are pockets, particularly on the west side of the state, but Michigan is a traditionally middle left state. The state voted to legalize medicinal marijuana last year and can you say… Jack Kevorkian, Carl Levin, Debbie Stabenaw, and Jennifer Granholm??

The far right social conservative stuff here could hurt Santorum in the end.

PKinMI on February 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM

And of course there’s Jeffrey Fieger…what’s NOT to like??

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Romney’s campaign is an absolute grease fire..what is the big idea that he is running on? What specific plans does he have? Unleash the Trump is their killer move? God help us. sDs61678 on February 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Mitt’s big ideas here. Bet you’re too lazy to read them.

Basilsbest on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Mitt inspires, and causes one to think. Maturity, and the aesthetic of trees blending into a landscape is oftentimes overlooked.

Actually, I look at palm trees quite differently now. And yes, their height can be severely disproportionate.

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You forgot the sarc tag, LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Sure…regardless of the candidate, the media won’t be kind. But, it’s not just MSM spin, it’s what Santorum actually says and places an emphasis on. Why even say you believe birth control harms women, for example? The media won’t have to do anything special to paint him as a theocrat, and that sort of thing just doesn’t play well with the people in the middle. Add to that his lack of executive experience and his questionable record on spending, among other things, and I’m not sure what there is to draw people to his candidacy. You can’t win with just the base.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

I come across on here as insanely pro-Santorum even though he really wasn’t my top horse in the race. I just find much of what he says gets so twisted by people with a filter set up to be offended by it. Or they take a byline about a quote of his from Daily Beast and act like it’s a direct quote. He was asked about birth control and he answered what he believes. It’s kind of refreshing. I’m concerned with his electability too (although I think it’s better than some think), but when some Romney supporters are so hysterical they are comparing Rick to Hitler it’s become comical.
You can’t win without the base either and that’s why I find it funny that the Romney people are so insistent on his electability. When Romney is floundering in the GOP Primary, the electability thing is overblown.
I think the worry and fretting about winning the mystical “moderates” is pointless because liberal talking points will always be done better by the democrats. If the moderates want their candidates to be more like Obama they will vote for Obama in the end anyways.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Jacob Javits and Blanche Lincoln were both defeated by larger margins than Santorum’s 18-point loss.

But they didn’t turn around and try to run for President, either.

Adjoran on February 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Neither were deserted by their party either.

hawkdriver on February 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I’ve looked at love from both sides now…

LOL.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Eating lunch but glad I swallowed before reading that, LOL

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM

He was re-elected facing a woefully underfunded candidate who received zero in resources from the DNC. Polls had Santorum up by 18 to 20 with just a little over a week to go. He won by 6. The next day he was target #1 for the DNC in 06. Once they campaigned against him, he lost by 18.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Funny, I have lived here my whole life and I don’t
remember it that way…

“they” did not campaign against him, “they” campaigned
against BUUUUUUUUSSSSSHHHHHHH!!

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

They campaigned against Santorum – his visit to Terri Schiavo’s deathbed (travelling on WalMart’s corporate jet), for example – but what would be the difference anyway?

Can you name a couple of items of Bush’s agenda that Santorum didn’t support while in Senate?

NCLB? Medicare bribe? Over-spending? Energy Act? Highway bill? Subsidies?

The only difference is that Santorum was an union stooge.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

True. I can’t imagine any Independent or moderate wanting B.O. There are so many Democratic voters that despise B.O. You have no idea. We often forget the millions that crossed over and voted for McCain/Palin in 2008!

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM

I still think that it would take a LOT to get former Obama voters to cross over to the GOP. I can see a lot of them staying home, but if the nominee is any of the current candidates I doubt they will pull the lever for them.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Mitt is the guy who does not want to do anything with Social Security or Medicare. In August he said Rick Perry wants to throw Grandma and Grandpa off the cliff because Perry wanted to privatize Social Security.

BroncosRock on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I still think that it would take a LOT to get former Obama voters to cross over to the GOP. I can see a lot of them staying home, but if the nominee is any of the current candidates I doubt they will pull the lever for them.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

I think our only hope is to energize the electorate. Not just the base, but the electorate. It’s a good idea to also not underestimate the penchant that Obama has for pissing off his cronies.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

We have a huge opportunity to unseat Obama because of the economy, but Santorum’s presence changes the whole focus to social issues. Life in America is stressful enough these days without Santorum starting a war over issues like religion, abortion and gay marriage that will rip us apart at the seams. Nobody wants that fight right now. Make Deacon Rick go away.

jan3 on February 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Yep. Feiger was actually a serious candidate for governor a few years ago. Our current governor, Dick Snyder, won the Republican primaries over more conservative candidates. His position on life is rather blurry… yet he won not only the primary, but the general election too.

If Santorum pulls off the win here (which I doubt he will), you can kiss Michigan goodbye. It will never go for a far right candidate. Only Romney has a chance to beat Obama in Michigan… and that will be tough too.

PKinMI on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Basilsbest on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Exactly right. Mitt published this plan months ago and has stood by every bit of it since. He is the only one to give us a realistic, comprehensive and well thought approach and yet time and again we are told that he “isn’t running on ideas” or hasn’t “provided a positive” message or some such clap trap. I can understand it, coming from the unwashed masses at sites like this, but we hear it time and again from those who call themselves journalists as well. Most of them are as slovenly in their work as the stupidest rube on the street.

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

They campaigned against Santorum – his visit to Terri Schiavo’s deathbed (travelling on WalMart’s corporate jet), for example – but what would be the difference anyway?

Can you name a couple of items of Bush’s agenda that Santorum didn’t support while in Senate?

NCLB? Medicare bribe? Over-spending? Energy Act? Highway bill? Subsidies?

The only difference is that Santorum was an union stooge.

joana on February 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Merciful teapot!!

So much nonsense packed into a few sentences.

Oh, you forgot to answer why Romney never ran for re-election.

that’s o.k., I’m doing yeoman’s work here….he did not run for
re-election because he would’ve gotten his azz handed to him
You know, kind of like what happened to Santorum in 2006.

We get it, you don’t care for Santorum….carry on.

ToddPA on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Mitt’s big ideas here. Bet you’re too lazy to read them.

Basilsbest on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Why should I read them? Shouldn’t Mitt be out there telling us his big ideas in the debates or on Sunday talk shows?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

It is tiresome about this who is electable. Whichever R wins the nomination will have the Dems/W.H. and the MSM pounding them. So what are the Conservatives/Independents/Moderates going to do that don’t like the Nominee? Vote for B.O.?

Like Mark Levin said he’d vote for an orange can, LOL I’m sure everyone that has a sane mind will too.

A lot of Dems won’t be staying home. They’ll be voting for whoever the R Nominee is. I’d hate to be an R and say the Dems are wiser than I.

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Why should I read them?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

And that pretty well sums it all up.

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Why should I read them?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

And that pretty well sums it all up.

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Yeah, you unenlightened boobs! Romney shouldn’t have to make his case to you! You should go out and read what he believes and listen to his campaign rhetoric cause he’s next in line!/

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I’m not a Trump fan (he’s an attention wh#re) but he does know how to throw a punch and get under people’s skin. He’s also REALLY good about grabbing attention.

The way Trump looks at politics is probably a lot like the average independent voter does that the GOP needs to win over:

Trump’s pitch is something along the lines of : “Obama is a failure, let’s find a guy that can knock him off. Are we really going to nominate such a wacko that lost his last election by 20 points and wants to make birth control among married people an issue?”

That sentiment resonates with a lot of voters.

BradTank on February 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Then we deserve no less than that devil. Your argument here appears self-defeating to me.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

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What world are you living in ? Name a President in the last 50 years who’s name wasn’t Reagan- that Inspired and lead the country with some kind of liberating vision- a better way of life? Sure they all seemed like they were gonna make us think better of our decaying nation and improve the situation – But what Presidential genius am I missing ?
You are “hoping”

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Like Mark Levin said he’d vote for an orange can, LOL I’m sure everyone that has a sane mind will too.

Orange Can 2012!

A lot of Dems won’t be staying home. They’ll be voting for whoever the R Nominee is. I’d hate to be an R and say the Dems are wiser than I.

I wish I believed this. Obama may have alienated a lot of Catholics, but too many democrats have it in their heads that Republicans are straight up evil. I hope you’re right.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

And that pretty well sums it all up.

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Selective quoting to prop up your candidate?

Pure genius here LOL.

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Funny…they both come across as conman-ish to me. I still don’t see Trump as an honest man, he seems to always be working the ‘art of the deal’ imo.
I find it hard to believe that he, as a savvy businessman, actually believes what he says…and if he doesn’t, how honest is he? Does anyone actually believe that he would do this: “Just say to the Chinese, look..this is the way its gonna be..we’re gonna start callin the shots”…or “Listen…you owe us, so we’re just gonna take your oil..its ours”

The guys is a opportunistic con man imo. He’s donated to more democrats and voted for Obama and liked universal health insurance mandates.
He has a kind of smarmy vibe comin’ off him.

Mimzey on February 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I come across on here as insanely pro-Santorum even though he really wasn’t my top horse in the race. I just find much of what he says gets so twisted by people with a filter set up to be offended by it. Or they take a byline about a quote of his from Daily Beast and act like it’s a direct quote. He was asked about birth control and he answered what he believes. It’s kind of refreshing. I’m concerned with his electability too (although I think it’s better than some think), but when some Romney supporters are so hysterical they are comparing Rick to Hitler it’s become comical.
You can’t win without the base either and that’s why I find it funny that the Romney people are so insistent on his electability. When Romney is floundering in the GOP Primary, the electability thing is overblown.
I think the worry and fretting about winning the mystical “moderates” is pointless because liberal talking points will always be done better by the democrats. If the moderates want their candidates to be more like Obama they will vote for Obama in the end anyways.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Sure, it’s great he says what he believes, but what he’s choosing to opine on are hot-button issues that inflame passions. And, things like that tend to offend people. My fear is that he’ll continue to talk about those things, in the manner he has been, and end up a highly polarizing figure, with just as many people voting for him as against him. And even if that doesn’t happen, what is in his resume to make people believe he’ll do a batter job than Obama? The upsides to his candidacy seem fairly limited, quite unlike the potential downsides.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Ahhh yes, another breathlessly objective post from Ed Morrisey about that son-of-SATAN Mitt Romney. You can always count on Ed to stick to the facts.

Crefonso on February 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Mitt’s big ideas here. Bet you’re too lazy to read them.

Basilsbest on February 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Why should I read them? Shouldn’t Mitt be out there telling us his big ideas in the debates or on Sunday talk shows?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Why should I read them? Sounds like a Democrat. Sounds like John Conyers. Maybe you deserve a personal call from Mitt to fill you in, right?

jan3 on February 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Oh dear. We wouldn’t want to be unfair and take you out of context. The rest adds so much more. It’s not your job to inform yourself before opening your great maw and shouting, “FEED ME!” You’re right, the quote is so incomplete without including the complete wretched excuse for (or is it a boast about) your ignorance.

Why should I read them? Shouldn’t Mitt be out there telling us his big ideas in the debates or on Sunday talk shows?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I still think that it would take a LOT to get former Obama voters to cross over to the GOP. I can see a lot of them staying home, but if the nominee is any of the current candidates I doubt they will pull the lever for them.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

It is hard to say, but I’ve heard many regret now voting for him in 2008. How many who knows?

I was speaking of those millions of Dems that did NOT vote for B.O., but voted Republican for McCain/Palin in 2008. They aren’t now going to vote for B.O. You may not read websites that reflect that, but they despise B.O. and what has become of the Democratic Party. They certainly won’t be voting for B.O. Many are Registered Republicans and or Independents.

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

What world are you living in ? Name a President in the last 50 years who’s name wasn’t Reagan- that Inspired and lead the country with some kind of liberating vision- a better way of life? Sure they all seemed like they were gonna make us think better of our decaying nation and improve the situation – But what Presidential genius am I missing ?
You are “hoping”

FlaMurph on February 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

I’m doing what I always did, Murph: Picking the candidate that comes closest to matching my beliefs out of those running. That person may indeed miss my core convictions by a country mile, but that’s what happens when your good candidates drop out by gross and leave the career politicians.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Just when Trump starts to make some inroads and some sense with his comments about China, OPEC, and how our leaders are just plain stupid, he shoots himself in the foot, like so many others by backing liberal establishment Republican Mitt Romney. I think that this attack on a more conservative Santorum is disgraceful.

apocalypse on February 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

That sentiment resonates with a lot of voters.

BradTank on February 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

To others, such as myself, it reeks of desperation.

gryphon202 on February 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

What Willard does is, by definition, dishonest. Willard has claimed victory when he didn’t win, in Iowa. Willard has claimed victory when not all the votes were in, in Maine.

Willard’s got nothing.

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Romney claimed victory in Iowa and Maine when he was declared the winner. As it turned out, days later, it was announced that they’d miscounted (or something) in Iowa. I guess in your world he’s supposed to know better than the people who actually counted the votes?

Syzygy on February 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Mittbots are going crazy now that romney appears he wants to lose MI

Flapjackmaka on February 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Mitt is the guy who does not want to do anything with Social Security or Medicare. In August he said Rick Perry wants to throw Grandma and Grandpa off the cliff because Perry wanted to privatize Social Security.

BroncosRock on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Yes and he also ran ads against Gov. Perry about that since he called SS a Ponzi Scheme. His advisors also lied. That is when I saw that Romney was a liar and a hypocrite. Romney also had his little Bachmann attacker with her screeching against Perry. I have no use for either of them:-)

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM

“FEED ME!” You’re right, the quote is so incomplete without including the complete wretched excuse for (or is it a boast about) your ignorance.

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Round two of the Mittbot strategy. Insults.

What is the right height of trees?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

You statement is exactly the opposite of the way believers in the Heartland feel.

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 12:28 PM

So the heartland is full of religious zealot bible thumpers like WBC? I have more faith in Christians than that.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

We have a huge opportunity to unseat Obama because of the economy, but Santorum’s presence changes the whole focus to social issues. Life in America is stressful enough these days without Santorum starting a war over issues like religion, abortion and gay marriage that will rip us apart at the seams. Nobody wants that fight right now. Make Deacon Rick go away.

jan3 on February 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Santorum didn’t start this. Obama did along with his HHS mandate. Santorum is replying to this. The Catholic Church is too and other Christian Organizations.

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Sure, it’s great he says what he believes, but what he’s choosing to opine on are hot-button issues that inflame passions. And, things like that tend to offend people. My fear is that he’ll continue to talk about those things, in the manner he has been, and end up a highly polarizing figure, with just as many people voting for him as against him. And even if that doesn’t happen, what is in his resume to make people believe he’ll do a batter job than Obama? The upsides to his candidacy seem fairly limited, quite unlike the potential downsides.

I just don’t understand WHY he wants to talk about issues that even if he were to win the White House, he’s not going to be able to change. An example, Santorum just came out recently against prenatal testing. Why even go there? Whatever your view on this is, can we not all agree it’s a STUPID move for a Presidential candidate to bring up?

I have opinions on all sorts of hot-button topics, but I’m smart enough to know when to keep my mouth shut. Sanotrum doesn’t have that ability, which is why he lost his last election by 20 points.

BradTank on February 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM

What is the big idea that [Romney] is running on?

Pretending he’s a conservative.

What specific plans does he have?

Get his surrogates to attack Santorum.

Unleash the Trump is their killer move?

It’s important when an important candidate gets endorsed by another important person . . .even the second time. After all, getting endorsed by important people and then approved by voters is how you become a member of the Oakland Hills (MI) country club.

God help us

Let’s be careful with that. You don’t want the Willard supporters to think you’re too religious now, do you?

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Romney has spent the last week emphasizing his roots in Michigan, with some limited success, but still finds the blue-collar vote elusive. Sticking Donald Trump in the forefront as his surrogate isn’t going to help Romney connect with those voters, and it’s likely to help Santorum strengthen his lock on that vote.

Huh?

So… Donald Trump’s brief rise in GOP polls last year wasn’t from the blue-collar, anti-Romney, working class, Tea Party, etc? Right, ok… It was driven by the intellectual, high-income, current Romney supporters.

C’mon, Ed.

BocaJuniors on February 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM

But I’ll tell you who the religious nut is. Willard. He’s the Mormon in the race, remember?

He’s the guy who eschews all alcohol and coffee, despite the proven science about their health benefits. He has personally baptized the dead in a Mormon ritual. He believes Jesus and Satan were brothers. He believes that God was once a man, and that when he, Willard, dies he will become a God with his own planet to rule over.

And he wears sacred underwear. Yow!

Now, that’s nuts.

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 12:29

Let there be bigots among us…And his name is Emperor Norton…

rich801 on February 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

This is good for Romney. Mitt won Nevada because of Trump. With Trump, Romney has a chance.

BoxHead1 on February 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I kept waiting for Ed to tell us this was a gag post, ala the Onion.
Better to lose with Santorum than meekly drown with this slug and these kind of brilliant ideas- what an absolute travesty.

jjshaka on February 20, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Mitt is the guy who does not want to do anything with Social Security or Medicare.

BroncosRock on February 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Wrong. He has an extensive plan to deal with it. He agrees with the Ryan plan.

csdeven on February 20, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I wish I believed this. Obama may have alienated a lot of Catholics, but too many democrats have it in their heads that Republicans are straight up evil. I hope you’re right.

BakerAllie on February 20, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The smart Democrats don’t, especially the Hillary Voters. In 2008, there were 7 to 8 million IIRC, that voted for McCain/Palin. You have to understand that B.O. has split the Democratic Party. There are now 2 factions within that Party. Pro-B.O. and Con-B.O. It is the latter that I am speaking of. And after what B.O. has done to this Country, I think more will be Con-B.O. voting for the R Nominee. That’s my opinion based on what went on in 2008 and what I’ve been reading. I haven’t found one that will vote for B.O. in that group.

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Let there be bigots among us…And his name is Emperor Norton…

rich801 on February 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Let me get this straight…insulting Santorum’s Christianity is fine.

Bringing up Romney’s Mormonism is out of bounds.

Isn’t that perhaps just a wee bit disengenuous?

kingsjester on February 20, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Trump will be be Mitt’s VP.

BoxHead1 on February 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM

BocaJuniors on February 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM
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Yeah, thats it! Trump actually appeals to blue collar voters. \sarc
There is no argument for a romney in the white house other than he is not obama but the rest can do that too. He is unpopular with indies and i dont think the mittbots should recreate the loss of sharon angle and o’donnel

Flapjackmaka on February 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Rick Santorum: I want to bring manufacturing back to this country, ensure that everyone has equal opportunity, and care about the family.

Mitt Romney: I like being able to fire people and I don’t care about the very poor.

Hmmmm… decisions, decisions…

Stoic Patriot on February 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM

What does backfire smell like?

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I have a feeling the Donald could be to Santorum, what Debbie Downer is to the RNC.

Flora Duh on February 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Let there be bigots among us
rich801 on February 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

They believe that. I’m not making it up. I wish I were making it up.

I guess in your world he’s supposed to know better than the people who actually counted the votes?
Syzygy on February 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM

In my world, a man with integrity is supposed to say “It’s still too close to call.”

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

America will get four more years of Obama if Santorum Romney is elected because he is the only candidate running with less economic experience than Obamathat’s record & positions are equal to or to the left of Obama(See RomneyCare, Cap & Trade, Minimum Wage). .

People will vote for “the devil they know”. Rather than one that is unhinged in a sweater vestpromising or or has deliver more of the same under a different label.

Marcus Traianus on February 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Y314K on February 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

FIFY

Y314K on February 20, 2012 at 1:41 PM

And even if that doesn’t happen, what is in his resume to make people believe he’ll do a batter job than Obama? The upsides to his candidacy seem fairly limited, quite unlike the potential downsides.

changer1701 on February 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You don’t think that Santorum would do a better job than Obama?????????

Good grief, any of the R Candidates would do that. That statement came from Left field.

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:42 PM

So the race is now coming down to a confrontation between the Willard proxy Hairman and Rubberman? The static electricity should ba at a most shocking level.

Annar on February 20, 2012 at 1:43 PM

the election should be about obama and how bad he has made the economy, now and for the future debt-holders.

obama and the mainstream media will make it about the republican. they will make mincemeat of santorum, palin, or gingrich. because santorum, palin, and gingrich makes their task easier.

why havent the tea party and the republican party neutralized the mainstream media. they are responsible for about 3-5% of the vote swing.

we need someone who can communicate effectively as obama, someone who can get as nasty as obama
and not have the baggage of santorum, palin or gingrich. to fire up the base…

but elections are won by the moderates so that means it’s either romney at the helm or romney as veep.

maybe we shoudl be talking about a rubio-romney ticket, instead of a romney-rubio ticket.

wholefoodsrepublican on February 20, 2012 at 1:44 PM

JPeterman on February 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Insult? I didn’t insult you. I quoted you. Oh wait …

MJBrutus on February 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM

at the same time, the republican candidates should be focusing all of their attacks on obama. let’s shake up his confidence. bring the battle to his turf

wholefoodsrepublican on February 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Willard has claimed victory when not all the votes were in, in Maine.

Willard’s got nothing.

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yes and I also noticed that Paul wasn’t going to ask for a recount or contest they didn’t count all of the votes. Who does that?

That to me is more evidence of a Paul/Romney tag team coming up against Santorum. Remember when Paul came out with a couple of hard hitting ads against Newt right before Iowa and Romney was also? Yep, some behind the scenes alliances going on:-)

bluefox on February 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM

In my world, a man with integrity is supposed to say “It’s still too close to call.”

Emperor Norton on February 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

When the race has been called, he’s supposed to say, “It’s too close to call”? That’s not asking for “integrity”; it’s expecting him to possess supernatural powers.

Syzygy on February 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM

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