Did you know … today actually isn’t Presidents Day?

posted at 6:25 pm on February 20, 2012 by Tina Korbe

In case you missed the Headlines item about this, today is actually “the day that isn’t.” For The American Spectator, Peter Hannaford explains:

In 1968 sentiment grew for a Uniform Monday Holiday Act that would move several national holidays from their specific dates to the nearest Monday, thereby reducing down-time for the economy and giving workers a series of three-day holidays. An early draft of the enabling bill would have renamed the Washington’s Birthday holiday “Presidents’ Day” to honor both Washington and Lincoln, whose birthday is on February 12 and has never been a national holiday.

The bill passed and was signed into law as the Uniform Monday Holiday Act on June 28 that year. George Washington’s birthday, February 22, was moved from that date to the third Monday of the month and remains officially, the George Washington’s Birthday Holiday. The term “Presidents’ Day” is not mentioned in the Act.

Before the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, though, there was the President’s Day National Committee, a group that hoped to create an actual President’s Day (possessive, not plural) to honor the office of the president, not any particular president.

Even though today is not that day, it’s still a good time to reflect favorably on the highest office in the country. When the Founders fashioned the presidency, they created something quite new — a leader with sufficient power to execute the laws, but with no claim to power other than that which the people gave him by his election. They considered all options — consuls, triumvirates, administration by committee — and concluded that an energetic executive — unified, durable, adequately provided for and empowered — would best get the job done. Such an energetic executive was neither a king nor a dictator. After all, power from the people — and, crucially, the possibility of removal — was a far cry from the divine right of kings and an hereditary monarchy.

Anti-Federalists were still concerned that the office of the presidency was invested with too much power and, these days, many Americans are apt to agree. Under Obama’s administration, we’ve seen the expansion of the bureaucracy, legislation by executive order and the appointment of corrupt and incompetent individuals to important posts. It’s easy to feel discouraged and to think the Constitution surely could have provided more curbs to the growth of executive power. Abuses of the office, though, don’t diminish the genius of the office as it was constructed, from the manner of the president’s election by the electoral college to the length of the term he would serve. Instead, such abuses are an invitation to revisit the Founders’ original vision for the presidency and to seek to place someone in the office who will respect it and uphold his oath to defend the Constitution itself.


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How about we honor the office of President by ensuring that only those who qualify under Article II Section 1 of the Constitution are actually allowed to hold the office?!?

Obama was born a natural born British subject. Not a natural born U.S. Citizen, even if he was “native born”.

ITguy on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

it’s actually engineers week

hanzblinx on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

I blame Obama :)

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Instead, such abuses are an invitation to revisit the Founders’ original vision for the presidency and to seek to place someone in the office who will respect it and uphold his oath to defend the Constitution itself.

A man’s oath of office are the words spoken by his own lips that will convict him when he violates that oath.

ted c on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Nice one, Tina… thanks!

“Cogito, ergo TEA Party!” ~ DeepWheat

DeepWheat on February 20, 2012 at 6:32 PM

What a nut job this ITguy. Obama’s mother is American, he has a birth certificate certified and notarized by Hawaii. You can’t beat him at the polls so you become a birther

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Instead, such abuses are an invitation to revisit the Founders’ original vision for the presidency and to seek to place someone in the office who will respect it and uphold his oath to defend the Constitution itself.

Well today in honor of ‘Presidents day’ I do say bho is the worse president that our Republic has had since our founding. bho gets the top honor of wilson, fdr, and carter as a president, today, tomorrow, or in the future will do more in less than four years to do what every other president never thought would happen? DO we want this for 4 more year? Voters will decide, the lesser of the evils?
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letget on February 20, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Even though today is not that day, it’s still a good time to reflect favorably on the highest office in the country.

Fixed that for ya, Tina.

Mr. Prodigy on February 20, 2012 at 6:39 PM

We should go back to honoring George Washington on his birthday.

INC on February 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

I think it’s kind of a bad idea to have a holiday that celebrates Presidents. Most of them have been horrible.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:41 PM

MLK is the only individual American worthy of a federal holiday, evidently. Everyone else has to share.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Did you know … today actually isn’t Presidents Day?

So why is USPS not delivering mail today ?

burrata on February 20, 2012 at 6:43 PM

We need to stop building momuments to presidents, and having a holiday in their name is another momument to presidents.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Great, more birther nutjobs on HotGas.

mythicknight on February 20, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Well, I think MLK Day is good b/c it throws a bone to black people who arne’t going to be all that excited about our slave owning white founders. You got to look at it from their standpoint too.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Barky’s ineligible. Everyone knows it. Never in the history of the US has a dual citizen ever been considered eligible to take the reins of the Executive branch. The Founders are spinning in their graves that anyone would claim they included dual nationals in their classification of “natural born citizens”. I mean, that is as preposterous as it gets.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I never celebrate Presidents Day. I don’t even think it is a state holiday here.

I do celebrate the federal holiday of Washington’s Birthday. I am more than willing to honor the man who refused the crown of the United States.

Vatican Watcher on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

a leader with sufficient power to execute the laws, but with no claim to power other than that which the people gave him by his election.

 
How quaint.

rogerb on February 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Would you take George Washington as king over the freely elected Obama?

Tough call, but I lean GW. :)

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Who cares? We fly flags at half-staffed for other reasons, or people now. What’s tradition anymore?

KOOLAID2 on February 20, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Well, I think MLK Day is good b/c it throws a bone to black people who arne’t going to be all that excited about our slave owning white founders. You got to look at it from their standpoint too.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

It’s a perversion of our system for no reason. It’s a clear lie, too. There’s nothing to be gained by making fake displays of respect, no matter who wants it. To give MLK his own federal holiday is over the top and ridiculous. It makes a mockery of whatever anyone thought that the establishment of that holiday would do.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM

When you celebrate all presidents you celebrate no president. Therefore, I find this “holiday” a joke and will not observe it.

Warner Todd Huston on February 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM

It’s a perversion of our system for no reason. It’s a clear lie, too. There’s nothing to be gained by making fake displays of respect, no matter who wants it. To give MLK his own federal holiday is over the top and ridiculous. It makes a mockery of whatever anyone thought that the establishment of that holiday would do.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM

I can’t get worked up over another paid holiday. I do thnk it’s good for racial unity to give them a day for MLK. For them, America didn’t really start until the 1960′s, 1970s.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Can you really blame blacks for not being wild about slaveowners like Jefferson and Madison and Washington? I can’t. That’s why I always say conservatives make a mistake by always referencing the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

That’s why I always say conservatives make a mistake by always referencing the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

If someone doesn’t appreciate the Founders and the Constitution then they don’t appreciate America. That IS America. Period.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 7:00 PM

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Barky’s ineligible. Everyone knows it. Never in the history of the US has a dual citizen ever been considered eligible to take the reins of the Executive branch. The Founders are spinning in their graves that anyone would claim they included dual nationals in their classification of “natural born citizens”. I mean, that is as preposterous as it gets.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

What do you mean by dual citizenship? Baby Obama applied or his father who abandoned him applied for dual citizenship. I see the problem with many nutjobs is that they have problem with reality or grasping basic understanding of US laws and customs. Anyone born on US soil is considered a natural born citizen per the 14th amendment but that is not even necessary for Obama his own mother who birth him is American Citizen.

14th Amendment: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM

If someone doesn’t appreciate the Founders and the Constitution then they don’t appreciate America. That IS America. Period.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 7:00 PM

You keep saying stuff like this, and blacks and other minorities will keep voting Democrat. You have to be able to relate to people iwth different life experiences and the black experience in America wasn’t all that great until recently. You are either in denial about that or a racist if you don’t agree.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM

When you celebrate all presidents you celebrate no president. Therefore, I find this “holiday” a joke and will not observe it.

Warner Todd Huston on February 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Nobody seems to be certain if this is really a holiday or not, so I am forced to compromise. I’ll celebrate some presidents and not others. So, Washington, Madison, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Coolidge, Reagan… The guy we have today? Eh, doesn’t make the cut. Maybe I’ll celebrate future-President Jindal instead.

Gingotts on February 20, 2012 at 7:16 PM

You’ll reach black people with quotes of things slave owners said, doesn’t matter if the slaver owner was right in their statement.

Conservatives tend to look back too much, but you don’t have to live in the past to advocate liberty.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM

What a nut job this ITguy. Obama’s mother is American, he has a birth certificate certified and notarized by Hawaii. You can’t beat him at the polls so you become a birther

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Are you pretending to not understand natural born citizen?

Some background reading for you:

http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html

The NYT was REALLY concerned about McCain. Obama — not so much. McCain had two citizen parents; Obama just one. IT’s argument isn’t about being physically born in the US, but because Obama did not have two citizen parents.

“natural born” was intended to guarantee that the president had no foreign allegiances, as for example, Great Britain or it’s Kenyan colony!!

Note that Snopes is hardly unbiased here – it concludes that McCain’s status is undetermined, while Obama’s is just fine, even though Snopes mistakenly concludes that since Obama was merely physically born in Hawaii he is therefore “natural born”. Duh.

fred5678 on February 20, 2012 at 7:19 PM

What do you mean by dual citizenship? Baby Obama applied or his father who abandoned him applied for dual citizenship.

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Oy. On Barky’s own fightthesmears web site (remember that?) he pasted the fact-check piece that stated that Barky was born a dual citizen. Then there is the later issue of possible Indonesian citizenship (remember that Barky first dreamt of becoming the Prime Minister of Indonesia). But, it doesn’t matter. Born a dual citizen means not a natural born citizen. End of story. Chester Arthur knew this. Everyone knew it … until Barky came along and everyone started playing stupid. Barky also held the biggest political rally of his 2008 AMERICAN Precedential campaign in a friggin forein nation … for foreigners!! Do you understand how illegal and un-Constitutional and repulsive an act that is? But, part of American political culture, now. No borders. Yay!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM

To give MLK his own federal holiday is over the top and ridiculous. It makes a mockery of whatever anyone thought that the establishment of that holiday would do.

How about brother El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz A.K.A. Malcolm X? I like him better :)

Salahuddin on February 20, 2012 at 7:22 PM

14th Amendment: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM

14th amendment says squat all about “natural born citizen”. Try again.

fred5678 on February 20, 2012 at 7:23 PM

We should go back to honoring George Washington on his birthday.

INC on February 20, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Yep

First In War, First In Peace, And First In The Hearts Of His Countrymen.

Dr Evil on February 20, 2012 at 7:25 PM

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Oh. Now you guys care about the Constitution.

SagebrushPuppet on February 20, 2012 at 7:26 PM

You’ll reach black people with quotes of things slave owners said, doesn’t matter if the slaver owner was right in their statement.

Conservatives tend to look back too much, but you don’t have to live in the past to advocate liberty.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM

I’m not into pandering. Conservativism is not something that is sold to people with trinkets. Any person with a modicum of self-confidence and who yearns for individual liberty will come to American conservativism, since there is nothing else to satisfy that need. That was formalized by the Founders in the Constitution. You have to appreciate that, no matter ones individual history.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 7:27 PM

SCOTUS, 1875:

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

fred5678 on February 20, 2012 at 7:28 PM

I’m not into pandering. Conservativism is not something that is sold to people with trinkets. Any person with a modicum of self-confidence and who yearns for individual liberty will come to American conservativism, since there is nothing else to satisfy that need. That was formalized by the Founders in the Constitution. You have to appreciate that, no matter ones individual history.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I never said pander, I said don’t say “Constitution” and “Founding Fathers” over and over and over. Make it about the things they were right about, not just about them, and you can reach black people.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:30 PM

President’s Day (possessive, not plural)

(isn’t it a shame that you now have to indicate when you are using correct spelling or grammar?)

When you celebrate all presidents you celebrate no president.
Warner Todd Huston on February 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM

When you celebrate all presidents, and not George Washington alone, it’s Presidents’s Day (or Presidents’; some things are still optional).

AesopFan on February 20, 2012 at 7:30 PM

14th Amendment: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States

Barry’s own web site admitted that he was born a British subject… I.E., Subject to the jurisdiction of Great Britain/the British crown.

People who are born dual citizens are not “natural born” U.S citizens… That requires birth on US soil AND two US citizen parents, so there is no divided loyalty at birth.

BPinNC on February 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM

What a nut job this ITguy. Obama’s mother is American, he has a birth certificate certified and notarized by Hawaii. You can’t beat him at the polls so you become a birther

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Great, more birther nutjobs on HotGas.

mythicknight on February 20, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Back off the ad-hominem name-calling.

There are a lot of legitimate legal questions unresolved as to 0bama’s eligibility. President Arthur also had a non-American father, and this was a big source of controversy back then, as well, which was never adjudicated because Arthur’s lawyers destroyed the pertinent records.

The fact that the Supreme Court has refused to take any of the many cases trying to refine the “Natural-Born-Citizen clause” due to “lack of standing,” does not mean that 0bama’s eligibility has been definitively established. THE SCOTUS has never agreed to hear any of the evidence or arguments; they have just thrown the cases out of court.

Justice Thomas is on record as saying that they are ducking the controversy, and I don’t blame the SCOTUS for being sh-t-scared to deal with it, considering he’s the first partially black president.

Argue with them if you want. But you don’t have the right to call people names when the legal dispute about 0bama’s eligibility has not been settled.

All that does is show that you are a closed-minded bigot when it comes to the unanswered questions about the most unknown president in the history of the nation.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 7:43 PM

People are getting into fights in the comments on a Presidents Day blog post. Little pink houses for you and me.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:47 PM

People are getting into fights in the comments on a Presidents Day blog post. Little pink houses for you and me.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Yeah, all it took was two name-callers to call people who have sincere, legitimate questions about 0bama, “nutjobs.”

The militant anti-”birthers” here are rude.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM

The whole way down the line, the “birthers” try to argue fact, and the anti-”birthers” call names.

They act like Democrats and 0bama voters.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 7:52 PM

I blame voted Obama :)

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Bmore on February 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Yeah, all it took was two name-callers to call people who have sincere, legitimate questions about 0bama, “nutjobs.”

The militant anti-”birthers” here are rude.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM

I’ve noticed Tina Korbe’s posts tend to bring out the violence in commentators.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Miss Korbe is good at stirring the pot. An instigator, so to speak. :)

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:56 PM

LOL-We are talking official government document and these nut jobs are talking about some websites. I guess being born in a Hawaii hospital doesn’t count huh? Birther LOL there has to be a drug for this. Unless of course the US government does not have jurisdiction of Hawaii maybe persons born there would not be subject to their laws.

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Yes I know I’m late to the party but I have always known it’s been President’s Day for marketeers. The law was never passed, and at age 61 I fly the flag on the 12th and the 22th. Always have and always will.

MNDavenotPC on February 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Miss Korbe is good at stirring the pot. An instigator, so to speak. :)

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Tina didn’t stir the pot… residentblue’s calling people names is what did that.

residentblue has a tightly closed mind and chooses to speak in laughable generalities. Just calls names. No sense in arguing with an anti-”birther” troll, so I won’t.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 8:02 PM

I thought the birther movement died down when Trump forced Obama to release the long form birth certificate.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Any topic that involves government forms bores the heck out of me so I could never be a birther. I did my tax returns last week and I’ve been losing sleep b/c I think I could have got more money right but not sure.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Every little bit helps so cancel this meaningless federal holiday and get a full day’s work out of all federal employees.

rplat on February 20, 2012 at 8:08 PM

That assumes you get a full day’s work out of them on non-holidays. Everyday is a holiday when you work for the government.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Well, I think MLK Day is good b/c it throws a bone to black people who arne’t going to be all that excited about our slave owning white founders. You got to look at it from their standpoint too.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM

It’s a perversion of our system for no reason. It’s a clear lie, too. There’s nothing to be gained by making fake displays of respect, no matter who wants it. To give MLK his own federal holiday is over the top and ridiculous. It makes a mockery of whatever anyone thought that the establishment of that holiday would do.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM

I’d be in favor of converting MLK day to a “Civil Rights Day.” The progress of African Americans owed as much to groups like the Buffalo Soldiers and the Tuskegee Airman and to scientists like Booker T. Washington — and, frankly, to a whole lot of African American businessman whose names we may never know — as to MLK himself. You could still celebrate the holiday based on MLK’s birthday.

But realistically, in today’s environment, it would never get off the ground. Someone would immediately claim it was all intended to diminish MLK, not just to recognize the other people who made significant contributions. I guarantee in short order there would be discussions about the racism behind it.

tom on February 20, 2012 at 8:56 PM

If Prezdit Obama somehow gets re-elected in November, starting next February the President’s Day will be changed to “My Day!!!” as Field-Marshall Prezdit for Life Barry decides that two terms ain’t gonna be enough…

For the rest of us, the national holiday greeting among us will become “May Day!! May Day!! For God’s sake will somebody help us???”

While the official greeting from the Prezdit and his minions will be, “Get back into line, and keep it quiet, peasants.”

coldwarrior on February 20, 2012 at 9:12 PM

What a nut job this ITguy. Obama’s mother is American, he has a birth certificate certified and notarized by Hawaii. You can’t beat him at the polls so you become a birther

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

I can get my own death certificate issued and notarized by the Russian embassy. Will cost me south of half a grand. Doesn’t mean I’m dead.

Archivarix on February 20, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I thought the birther movement died down when Trump forced Obama to release the long form birth certificate.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Like the hell it did. The scanned file that Obama posted on whitehouse.gov is as fake as Pamela Anderson’s plastic tit, and looks much worse. I actually became a birther after my online friend called on my computer expertise to check it.

Archivarix on February 20, 2012 at 9:31 PM

There are two separate issues:

1) Has Obama conclusively proven that his “birth narrative” is 100% true?

2) If proven (or even if just assumed to be true), does the “Obama birth narrative” qualify him as a “natural born citizen of the United States”?

The answer to both questions is “No”.

As to issue #1, The state of Hawaii did not say “Obama was born in Hawaii” until AFTER the U.S. House of Representatives said so first, by voting in favor of H.Res. 593. Could Fukino have used H. RES. 593 as “prima facie” evidence to issue her second News Release and finally make the claim “Obama was born in Hawaii”? I think the answer is yes, based on

Federal Rules of Evidence
Rule 902. Self-authentication

(10) Presumptions under Acts of Congress. Any signature, document, or other matter declared by Act of Congress to be presumptively or prima facie genuine or authentic.

As to issue #1, Obama has never “released” a hard copy of his birth certificate to anyone. I’d like to see that certificate treated the same way as the certificate of ascertainment and certificate of vote were handled… namely, sent, under seal, directly from the State of Hawaii to Congress.

As to issue #1, what Obama “released” was a multi-layered PDF that Archivarix described above.

ITguy on February 20, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Again, there are two separate issues:

1) Has Obama conclusively proven that his “birth narrative” is 100% true?

2) If proven (or even if just assumed to be true), does the “Obama birth narrative” qualify him as a “natural born citizen of the United States”?

The answer to both questions is “No”.

Even if we were to give Obama a pass on issue #1, and assume that his “birth narrative” is 100% true, there is very good reason to believe, from a strictly legal standpoint, that a person born on U.S. soil to parents who are not both U.S. citizens is NOT a “natural born citizen”.

For those who aren’t familiar with the legal aspects of issue #2, you may want to start here.

ITguy on February 20, 2012 at 10:43 PM

I thought the birther movement died down when Trump forced Obama to release the long form birth certificate.

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Like the hell it did. The scanned file that Obama posted on whitehouse.gov is as fake as Pamela Anderson’s plastic tit, and looks much worse. I actually became a birther after my online friend called on my computer expertise to check it.

Archivarix on February 20, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Bingo. I agree. I watched the entire 45-minute step-by-step walk-through by the computer expert on youtube, and that thing is fake. It slid through because 0bama offed bin Laden that week.

It’s as fake as a three-dollar bill. No sh-t.

I wasn’t going to bring it up, as the anti-”birthers” are Hot Air’s Achilles’ Heel when it comes to good vetting.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 11:32 PM

It’s true. 0bama released a fake long-form, then killed bin Laden a few days later.

Them there are the facts.

If he were to actually have Hawaii submit whatever it is they have in their vault, it wouldn’t match what was released.

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Michelle derangement syndrome now on level with ODS.

I don’t suspect Michelle is elected or anything, and she’s free to do what she will on her own time.

Advocating for healthy foods and bringing awareness to the problem and cost to the nation of obesity should be something I thought would unit all of us.

residentblue on February 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Now I get it. You’re the one who started this thread off course, and now I see from the Michelle vacation thread, how you defend her.

So you’re an 0bama defender on his hinky birth certificate AND on his wife’s outrageous spending of public money.

Noted for the future.

Sorry, Tina…. :-/

cane_loader on February 20, 2012 at 11:56 PM

This is good to know. Celebrating President’s Day was always problematic for me, because we’ve had Presidents who just shouldn’t be celebrated. Jimmy Carter comes to mind. Now I can just remind myself that the official holiday still celebrates George Washington’s birthday and enjoy the three-day weekend guilt-free.

itsonlywords on February 21, 2012 at 12:38 AM

I would like to see a return to “Washington’s Birthday,” and then honor both Lincoln and MLK and all who fought for abolition and civil rights, by moving MLK DAY to June 19th.

Otherwise known as Juneteenth, it really would be the most cohesive honor for Lincoln, King, Douglass, Tubman, Booker T. Washington, Harriet Beecher Stowe, et. al., that I could imagine.

Right now, singling out King but ignoring the giants on whose shoulders he stood, seems inadequate.

And Lincoln really is being forgotten, with “Presidents’ Day.”

I would say choose the date of the Emancipation Proclamation, but it was Jan. 1, 1863, and so wouldn’t work.

No, I made this all up out of left field, but Juneteenth sure seems like a heck of a good way to spread the honor around more fairly.

There you go, Tina, thanks for sparking this idea :-)

Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day or Emancipation Day, is a holiday in the United States honoring African American heritage by commemorating the announcement of the abolition of slavery in the U.S. State of Texas in 1865. Celebrated on June 19, the term is a portmanteau of June and nineteenth,[1] and is recognized as a state holiday or state holiday observance in 40 states of the United States.[

cane_loader on February 21, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Just another day the Feds are telling employers what to do.

Thankfully this thread is short.
But I’ll say a few things.
I find it interesting that there are people who just casually dismiss the NATURAL born concept out of hand, ignoring Obama’s British citizen father.
I thought cane_loader(?) did a good job of stating the obvious.
Why is it that ‘anti-birther’ people just attempt to shut down the debate by bringing negativity toward the character of the questioning in this matter?
As I see things, & many others, the issue is not that OBama may or may not have been born in HI. The issue is his father’s citizenship.
I am quite sure nothing will ever be done about this & 100 years from now the info will come out Chester Arthur-style. And of course, little hubub about it, when really, there should be.

The only national holiday worth celebrating is the 4th of July. That’s it.
MLK day is an effing joke.
The man was not a saint & to give him such trappings is disgusting.
Is this the only black man blacks really respect or what?
Bcs that doesn’t say much about them to me.
Blacks & Indians need to get over stuff.
OR they can remain trapped in the bitter diatribe as dependent Federal Government slaves.
It’s sad. When I go to the rez (it’s not far from me), I see a waste of human life everywhere.
Their culture does not seem to be able to allow for a Republic-style way governing.
Indians are very socialist (at least the Sioux I know).
And blacks have not been able to life themselves up out of slavery.
The few that have are vilified in their own communities. Same with Indians.
They want to remain slaves. And they don’t even know it.
Freedom seems to be lost on some people, all over the world.
That is why our nation building efforts really should just end.
You can’t force Democracy or a Republic on some people.
They have to want it.

Badger40 on February 21, 2012 at 8:08 AM

All white American Presidents are celebrated on a single day, while MLK gets one day for himself. I’ll bet Obama generates a single day (or a week) for himself, before he leaves office.

I agree that celebrating the 4th of July is the most appropriate National Day; but of course the retail marketing agencies would go berzerk…

dahni on February 21, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Miss Korbe is good at stirring the pot. An instigator, so to speak. :)

Dr. Tesla on February 20, 2012 at 7:56 PM

A community disorganizer, perhaps?

freedomfirst on February 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Did you know … today actually isn’t Presidents Day?

A stand-up comic called the February holiday “George Birthington’s Washday” many years ago!!

landlines on February 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM