Santorum: Obama motivated by a “different theology”

posted at 10:30 am on February 19, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Normally, I would advise presidential candidates to avoid getting caught in arguments over the relative merits of the faith of their opponents.  Americans typically don’t respond well to politicians claiming that they have a superior theology, especially when it comes to translating that into public policy.  In this case, though, Rick Santorum didn’t start that fight yesterday in Ohio:

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum challenged President Barack Obama’s Christian beliefs on Saturday, saying White House policies were motivated by a “different theology.”

A devout Roman Catholic who has risen to the top of Republican polls in recent days, Santorum said the Obama administration had failed to prevent gas prices rising and was using “political science” in the debate about climate change.

Obama’s agenda is “not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology,” Santorum told supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement at a Columbus hotel.

Santorum’s attack didn’t just come out of the blue.  And it wasn’t Santorum who proclaimed his theology in support of his own policy choices, either.  That honor goes to Barack Obama — twice.  Let’s not forget this moment from earlier this month at a prayer-breakfast event, when Obama told the nation that Christian theology calls for him to confiscate more from higher-income earners:

And when I talk about shared responsibility, it’s because I genuinely believe that in a time when many folks are struggling, at a time when we have enormous deficits, it’s hard for me to ask seniors on a fixed income, or young people with student loans, or middle-class families who can barely pay the bills to shoulder the burden alone.  And I think to myself, if I’m willing to give something up as somebody who’s been extraordinarily blessed, and give up some of the tax breaks that I enjoy, I actually think that’s going to make economic sense.

But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.”  It mirrors the Islamic belief that those who’ve been blessed have an obligation to use those blessings to help others, or the Jewish doctrine of moderation and consideration for others.

On top of that, we have the new spectacle of Obama telling churches through the new HHS mandate that his interpretation of religious theology is that faith only takes place in “houses of worship,” and that works are mere businesses under federal jurisdiction for the purpose of forcing churches to pay for contraception and abortifacients that violate their religious doctrine.  That is the “different theology” to which Santorum refers, and his remarks are clearly in response to Obama’s own efforts to justify his policy decisions under the cloak of a strange and self-serving interpretation of Christian teachings.

Is this wise politics?  Perhaps not; most people don’t care to get religion mixed up in their politics, and Obama took some heat for his tax-hike rationalizations on the basis of Christianity for that reason.  Santorum’s well-known affiliation with religious conservatives risks him being pigeonholed even further in a debate like this.  But Obama started this argument twice in the past three weeks, and to blame Santorum for pushing back seems a little odd.

Update: Commenter Reliapundit notes that there are some arguments, though true, that should be made through surrogates and not by the candidates themselves — and that this is one of those.  It’s not a bad point, perhaps especially for Santorum.  Also, some argue that this is a distraction from the main economic issues of the campaign, but as it applies to Obama’s “theology” on taxes and ObamaCare mandates, that’s not entirely true.  And if the economy heats up a little bit between now and the election, we will need the Republican nominee to be arguing on both how both represent an unconscionable power grab, and not merely how they both damage the economy.


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But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.”

The only thing worse than a politician moralizing is when he quotes scripture and gets it totally wrong. Which Obama seems to do with regularity.

Paul-Cincy on February 19, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Obama’s theology is marxism, pure and simple.

TXUS on February 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Is this wise politics? Perhaps not; most people don’t care to get religion mixed up in their politics, and Obama took some heat for his tax-hike rationalizations on the basis of Christianity for that reason. Santorum’s well-known affiliation with religious conservatives risks him being pigeonholed even further in a debate like this.

..can I get an amen?

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Whether he wants to talk about his religion or not Santorum will be pigeonholed by it. So he may as well drag obozo’s crazy Trinity Church and Rev. Wright into the discussion.

Flange on February 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Santorum is right to bring this out. Everyone knows Obama is not a Christian… It is time to fire a full Battleship Broadside on Obama and let him defend his beliefs.

steved95 on February 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Let me state the obvious. It doesn’t matter what the Republican candidates talk about or how they try and nuance a situation. The Lame Stream Media will ALWAYS portray them in the worst possible position.

Until we as conservatives begin ignoring what the LSM says, we will continue to fight stupid battles.

Repeat after me—-It’a About Obama!

dirtseller on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Obama spent 20 years in a church preaching Liberal/Marxist theology. Obama is at least an admirer of the Lucifer praising Saul Alinsky, if not an outright disciple. Obama has been at war with Christianity for a long time.

Blue Collar Todd on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Whether he wants to talk about his religion or not Santorum will be pigeonholed by it. So he may as well drag obozo’s crazy Trinity Church and Rev. Wright into the discussion.

Flange on February 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM

..and, respectfully, Santorum will be explaining and clarifying something that will distract form the one thing that can bring Obama down: his pathetic record on the economy.

Dilute this message and you risk defeat.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

It’a = It’s

dirtseller on February 19, 2012 at 10:39 AM

WHERE’S MITT ?????????????????

Eph on February 19, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Meanwhile…………..

Steyn rips Obama’s ‘Brother’s keeper’ remark: ‘His brother is back in Kenya living on $12 a year’ [VIDEO]
Published: 11:55 AM 02/03/2012 | Updated: 2:52 PM 02/04/2012
*************************************************************

On Thursday, President Barack Obama delivered remarks to the National Prayer Breakfast at the Washington Hilton and

said, “Living by the principle that we are our brother’s keeper, caring for the poor and those in need.”

But according to National Review columnist Mark Steyn, author of “After America: Get Ready for Armageddon,” Obama’s comments leave much to be desired, particularly when it comes to the president’s own brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama who lives on $12 a year in Kenya.

“Oh give me a break,” Steyn said on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show on Thursday night. “For a start, when he says, ‘I am my brother’s keeper,’ his brother is back in Kenya living on $12 a year. That’s what he was living on at the time of the 2008 election. So all the president has to do in terms of shared responsibility is put a $10 bill in an envelope and mail it to Nairobi or Mombasa or wherever and he will double his brother’s salary.”(More….)
=====================================================

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/03/steyn-rips-obamas-brother%E2%80%99s-keeper-remark-his-brother-is-back-in-kenya-living-on-12-a-year/

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:08 AM

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

This is just flat out idiotic by Santorum. Good luck with the “he started it first” excuse. Especially because Obama didn’t really questioned Santorum’s religion. Santorum could have answered to Obama’s populism by addressing and narrow framing that particular issue.

Of course, that would imply that Santorum disagrees with Obama’s economic populism: which considering his voting record in the Senate doesn’t seem to be the case. Apparently Obama wants to over-tax a class of people to pay partially for overcontrol spending while Santorum’s approach was always to borrow it all.

At this pace, if he’s the nominee he’ll simply destroy down-ticket republicans.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:41 AM

I would love it, when the candidates get questions about anything other than this presidents miserable record would answer EVERY question put to them by the LSM with “Interesting question. By the way, have you seen what kind of disaster this economy is under this president?”

dirtseller on February 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Lots of prenatal tests are done to test deformities in utero; customary procedure encourages abortion – Rick Santorum, ‘Meet the Press’

3 Mins ago
http://www.breakingnews.com/
============================

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Everyone knows Obama is not a Christian…

steved95 on February 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Obama is an opportunist.

Fallon on February 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

dirtseller on February 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

they should all do that, instead of bending over to the ridiculous questions from the scum left moderators.

GhoulAid on February 19, 2012 at 10:44 AM

More:

People have the right to prenatal testing, but not all forms should be forced to be provided – Rick Santorum, ‘Meet the Press’

Submitted 3 mins ago
http://www.breakingnews.com/
=============================

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Ed Morrissey, you sound silly making the weak “but he started it!” defense of your guy, the homophobic bigot Rick Santorum. I’m sorry, but you seem to be stretching to make excuses.

The truth is that Rick Santorum’s questioning of Obama’s Christianity will be seen by most voters the same way Donald Trump’s questioning of Obama’s birth certificate is viewed.

With Santorum as a leading candidate, we know we’ll have news coverage full of discussions about what kinds of SIN Santorum hates and would like to see banned. This is the absolute worst kind of candidate to have right now.

bluegill on February 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Better to have a Mormon or Catholic president than a Jeremiah Wright disciple.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

David Gregory: “Here to talk about the budget is Congressman Paul Ryan.”

20 minutes later after contraception, Catholics, abortion, Planned Parenthood, Rick Santorum, gay marriage, gay marriage, and gay marriage…..

Paul Ryan: “So are you going to ask about President Obama’s budget?”

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM

I would love it, when the candidates get questions about anything other than this presidents miserable record would answer EVERY question put to them by the LSM with “Interesting question. By the way, have you seen what kind of disaster this economy is under this president?”

dirtseller on February 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM

..I understand where you’re coming from but this turned out to be a disaster for Gingrich when Wolf Blitzer zinged him for his petulance in that FL debate.

How’d that work out for Newt?

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Ed Morrissey, you sound silly making the weak “but he started it!” defense of your guy, the homophobic bigot Rick Santorum.

bluegill on February 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

FEELINGS…..WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS…

GhoulAid on February 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Blue Collar Todd on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I don’t know know. I would feel a lot better if I knew what or whom our POTUS worshiped.

He seems to share the philosophy of our elite or they hope so. They picked it up in college and had their development arrested there. I see it destroying our nation in some ways.

I just ordered Pat Buchanon’s new book. I guess that shows me as being bigoted or a racist or something.

IlikedAUH2O on February 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Obama does not want to talk economics, an argument that he cannot win, and Santorum as the candidate turns the conversation to social issues while the country is falling apart financially. Now we’re discussing theology?!

The general election will become:

Do you want a theocrat as president? Do you want the country to become a theocracy? Then vote for the republican.

IMO This is a sure loser in the general election.

Kaffa on February 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Amen!

Syzygy on February 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM

homophobic bigot Rick Santorum.

bluegill on February 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM

You’re a sad, self-deceiving person.

Rick’s not the best candidate, but he’s a good guy.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

It’s not just Obama’s theology that Santorum has problems with…he also thinks mainline Protestants aren’t Christians.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-digs-up-2008-santorum-speech-stating-protestants-are-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Obama’s religion is the cult of Duh Won. I’m glad Rick is calling him out, but it is touchy territory.

Philly on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

David Gregory: “Here to talk about the budget is Congressman Paul Ryan.”

20 minutes later after contraception, Catholics, abortion, Planned Parenthood, Rick Santorum, gay marriage, gay marriage, and gay marriage…..

Paul Ryan: “So are you going to ask about President Obama’s budget?”

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Illustrative.

And predictable.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

More:

People have the right to prenatal testing, but not all forms should be forced to be provided – Rick Santorum, ‘Meet the Press’

Submitted 3 mins ago
http://www.breakingnews.com/
=============================

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM

So Santorum thinks people should pay for their own prenatal testing. I shocked, simply shocked I tell you, that any politician would think people should be personally and financially responsible for their own actions.

bgibbs1000 on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Dilute this message and you risk defeat.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not sold on Santorum, or any of them for that matter. But from Santorum’s perspective, attacking obozo’s theology isn’t a bad idea. The narrative on Rick is already been formed. So if he’s being shown as this crazy Catholic he may as well portray obozo as being a member of a crazier church that most Americans aren’t fimiliar with.

Flange on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

This is absolutely the correct approach for Santorum. Those of you suggesting he should just stick to Obama’s poor economic record, well, that’s exactly the milquetoast approach Mitt is taking.

We need to hit Obama hard on core principles, because as these quotes by Obama demonstrate, it is his core principles that are leading this country to economic collapse. If you hit Obama on core principles, the public will come to understand how radical, extreme and anti-American he is. This fight isn’t about some minor policy differences such as how high the tax on capital gains should be, this fight is for what we are about as Americans on the deepest level.

Good on Rick for taking this fight to the core. That is where hearts and minds will be changed and this election will be won.

Galadriel on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Everyone knows Obama is not a Christian…

steved95 on February 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Obama is an opportunist.

Fallon on February 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

and a Marxist

Dasher on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

It’s not just Obama’s theology that Santorum has problems with…he also thinks mainline Protestants aren’t Christians.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-digs-up-2008-santorum-speech-stating-protestants-are-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Rick’s right, but that won’t play well with independents.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Santorum seems smart enough to see what is coming his way so he is playing the hand he sees getting dealt to him. It’s smart to point out that:

1) he’s not the one trampling all over your freedoms and lifestyles, Obama is with his near-religious pursuit of a “green” economy, government meddling and taxation.

2)There was precisely zero debate in this country about access to contraceptives until Obamacare was passed into law. HHS mandates access to “free” contraceptives when they are already universally available.

Mord on February 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Clarification: liberal denominations that reject the authority of the Bible (incl. Christ’s words) are by definition not Christ-followers.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Is this wise politics? Perhaps not; most people don’t care to get religion mixed up in their politics, and Obama took some heat for his tax-hike rationalizations on the basis of Christianity for that reason. Santorum’s well-known affiliation with religious conservatives risks him being pigeonholed even further in a debate like this.

Ummm, yeah.

And he doesn’t have the political smarts to stay out of this fight? Not encouraging.

Priscilla on February 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

But Obama started this argument twice in the past three weeks, and to blame Santorum for pushing back seems a little odd.

Well, being a little odd has not stopped Obama on anything else, so I see no reason to think he’ll be concerned about that now.

MikeA on February 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

David Gregory: “Here to talk about the budget is Congressman Paul Ryan.”

20 minutes later after contraception, Catholics, abortion, Planned Parenthood, Rick Santorum, gay marriage, gay marriage, and gay marriage…..

Paul Ryan: “So are you going to ask about President Obama’s budget?”

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM

If Santorum is the nominee, it will be that way till November.

And rightly so: in terms of unions, spending, budget, tax expenditures and entitlements, there isn’t much of a difference between Santorum’s and Obama’s records.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Illustrative.

And predictable.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

..and must be dealt with. But, for the life of me, I cannot see how Santorum will adroitly handle this. I mean no disrespect but I cannot help but remember a recent piece where Santorum hosted a campaign gathering at a college in Iowa and the discussion centered around gay marriage and the gay life style. His tone was peevish and he became argumentative with the participants. (I wish I had a link or something. It was a prescient series of sound bites.)

My thoughts were (1) why is he arguing with voters over this and (2) why did he even schedule a talk like this in a college venue where he knew the sentiments towards gay issues would be more liberal?

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM
——————————————

So Santorum thinks people should pay for their own prenatal testing. I shocked, simply shocked I tell you, that any politician would think people should be personally and financially responsible for their own actions.

bgibbs1000 on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

bgibbs1000:

Good point,and I’m sure by tomorrow,the Left will have this phrase,
twisted no doubt!!

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

that’s a winner…sarc/

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on February 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I would suggest to you that Santorum has no more of a problem with Protestants than many Protestants and Baptists have with Catholics. I live in the south and Catholics are bashed all the time by the Protestants and Baptists. I’ve experienced it personally. Also, don’t you remember how much the Protestants and Baptists complained about nominating John F. Kennedy because he was a Catholic? The article you linked to even stated as much.

Every post you make is nothing but a hate post against Santorum. You’re nothing but a bomb thrower.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

I agree with those commenters who say that Santorum’s injection of religious criticism of Obama will be a negative for Santorum, as it distracts from the economic message. Remember that the election will be decided by where the 40% of unaffiliated voters go. They will be turned off by Santorum’s religious riffs, such as this one Ben Smith just brought up:

“and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

In reality, Catholics and mainstream Protestant sects are fairly close on many social issues and such inflammatory statements, even though made a few years ago, will make Rick unelectable.

Geez, there needs to be a brokered convention.

strongerthandirt on February 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

So Santorum thinks people should pay for their own prenatal testing. I shocked, simply shocked I tell you, that any politician would think people should be personally and financially responsible for their own actions.

bgibbs1000 on February 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

I completely agree that people should pay for their own prenatal testing. The problem is that Santorum is the same guy who voted for, say, the Medicare bribe – the biggest entitlement expansion in decades and a bill that we have no way to pay for. It’s inconsistent and it fits the narrative that he doesn’t seem to care much about women.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

This is absolutely the correct approach for Santorum. Those of you suggesting he should just stick to Obama’s poor economic record, well, that’s exactly the milquetoast approach Mitt is taking.

We need to hit Obama hard on core principles, because as these quotes by Obama demonstrate, it is his core principles that are leading this country to economic collapse. If you hit Obama on core principles, the public will come to understand how radical, extreme and anti-American he is. This fight isn’t about some minor policy differences such as how high the tax on capital gains should be, this fight is for what we are about as Americans on the deepest level.

Good on Rick for taking this fight to the core. That is where hearts and minds will be changed and this election will be won.

Galadriel on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

+1,000,000

Marybeth on February 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Let’s not forget this moment from earlier this month at a prayer-breakfast event, when Obama told the nation that Christian theology calls for him to confiscate more from higher-income earners…

This is very mysterious, and Santorum has it exactly right. O’Baaahma isn’t a Christian at all; he’s a political opportunist and atheist. He joined the “church” of hateful racist Jeremiah Wright to learn blackness for the advancement of his political career — it isn’t Christian in any sense of the word. And his pathetic comments at the “prayer breakfast” are just mashed-up liberal-junk social policy desperately looking for a religious veil.

O’Baaahma is a garden-variety atheist liar who needs to pretend one more time that he’s a Christian, so he can get re-elected and never have to enter a Christian church again.

Jaibones on February 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM

That article is bogus. He didn’t question his christian faith… he was saying that environmentalism is a theology to the left which Obama is a part of.

It’s amazing how the new media can twist something.

dforston on February 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM

If Santorum is the nominee, it will be that way till November.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:55 AM

You are Pollyanna living in Fantasy Land if you don’t think the entire talk (had Mitt Romney have wrapped up everything by now) wouldn’t have centered on Mormanism.

What’s funny is how PEEVED David Gregory got at Paul Ryan for that “Are you going to ask me about the budget?” Gregory said “Listen, these are issues the country is talking about” and his brain was going a mile a minute: If I have anything to do with it!

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Marxist Libertion Theology has done it’s job in my Catholic Church as well. Turning the mission ofGod’s Church into social justice instead of it’s ordained mission of the salvation of souls (how’s that working out when 55% of CT Catholics are planning to vote for the biggest pro-baby slaughtering president in history?)
So we were treated a few decades back to the spectacle of Jesuits with uzis, heading into Nicaragua to establish the Marxist led “preferential option for the poor.” My how charity has changed.
JP II stopped that dead in its Marxist tracks( he grew up with both Hitler and Stalin controlling his nation -why allow the Church to assist that evil? However, the left still contaminates much of the Holy Church.
So now we have Bishop’s councils that are not part of the official hierarchy according to Cardinal Ratzinger (the present Pope Benidict XVI) and the USCCB even managed to “accidently” send millions of dollars collected for the poor to help fund ACORN’s vote creating machine, in time for creating Obama’s votes in the last election.
Honoring Obama at Notre Dame and other anti-Catholic events are clearly the stuff of the some leftists who have entered the Church trying to make it Caesars. God will yet determine if the faithful Catholic Bishops and priests will be able to restore it to its true mission in time to save the millions of souls who are lost or confused sheep or those who just pretend to be Catholic, yet support abortion and other perversions of God’s commands.
This Libration Theology has now infiltrated the Black churches -one of which our president inhabited and listened perhaps too well to those who would prefer a secular paradise here on earth.
The comminist party has these things as their goals (destroying the moral culture, the family, and infiltrating the churches.
Have they done so? There’s lots to debate here.

These issue were made publc by Obama, who has but one goal here -to dismantle any resistance to his agenda of an earthly Marxist paridise – it is fair game to shout -noot with our help.
Sanatorum is right -the man seeks not to help us in anything but the scourge of failed socialism.

Don L on February 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Set aside the pigeon-holing and what the opposition will say or do. You have to give credit to Santorum for a strong attack that caught the media and the Obama team flat-footed. Their responses were typical and, frankly, pathetic.

What Santorum is attacking isn’t Obama’s Christianity (which is nothing but vaporware), but his real theology, Secularism. Obama tries to dress up his radical secular beliefs under the guise of Christianity. If you say enough hosannas, repeat enough scripture, sound preachery, then you can infuse your message with the usual Marxist trash.

If Obama can be exposed as a phony Christian who’s spouting nicer-sounding Reverend Wright-isms, then he will suffer great political damage. And what Santorum has done is expose a weakness in Obama’s flank that just might get him to start playing defense. Obama has overplayed the religious hand and can now be pummeled for it, and Santorum is doing what any smart politician does, attacking an exposed weakness with ferocity.

By the way, this also exposes Romney’s meekness. The Moderate candidate would never attack this way–even when such an attack might have more credibility coming from a Moderate! No, instead today Romney is in hiding, sending out McCain(!) as his surrogate to the talk shows.

And you Romney people wonder why he’s struggling….

–Paging John Zielger for damage control.–

EMD on February 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Clarification: liberal denominations that reject the authority of the Bible (incl. Christ’s words) are by definition not Christ-followers.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Liberal Christians are essentially weak-kneed atheists, like O’Baaahma. They don’t believe what is written in the Bible and manipulate it for personal gain.

Jaibones on February 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

I like that Santorum is not afraid to call out Maobama for using religion to try to promote socialism.

That’s exactly what we need. A leader who’s not afraid to speak the truth.

So what if he takes heat from the lib media for this. We need a leader who speaks his mind, not one that sugarcoats what he says based on how it’ll affect him politically.

This is another major difference between Santorum and Mittens.

LevinFan on February 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

It’s not just Obama’s theology that Santorum has problems with…he also thinks mainline Protestants aren’t Christians.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-digs-up-2008-santorum-speech-stating-protestants-are-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Rick’s right, but that won’t play well with independents.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM

No, he’s not right. And it shouldn’t play well with Protestants of any political stripe.

Clarification: liberal denominations that reject the authority of the Bible (incl. Christ’s words) are by definition not Christ-followers.

itsnotaboutme on February 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Glad you clarified, but what Protestant denominations reject the authority of the Bible?

Syzygy on February 19, 2012 at 11:03 AM

This is absolutely the correct approach for Santorum. Those of you suggesting he should just stick to Obama’s poor economic record, well, that’s exactly the milquetoast approach Mitt is taking.

We need to hit Obama hard on core principles, because as these quotes by Obama demonstrate, it is his core principles that are leading this country to economic collapse. If you hit Obama on core principles, the public will come to understand how radical, extreme and anti-American he is. This fight isn’t about some minor policy differences such as how high the tax on capital gains should be, this fight is for what we are about as Americans on the deepest level.

Good on Rick for taking this fight to the core. That is where hearts and minds will be changed and this election will be won.

Galadriel on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

EXACTLY. Very well said, Galadriel.

Just Sayin on February 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I would suggest to you that Santorum has no more of a problem with Protestants than many Protestants and Baptists have with Catholics
. I live in the south and Catholics are bashed all the time by the Protestants and Baptists. I’ve experienced it personally. Also, don’t you remember how much the Protestants and Baptists complained about nominating John F. Kennedy because he was a Catholic? The article you linked to even stated as much.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Few people remember the JFK’s catholic problem – which wasn’t much of a problem actually – because that happened more than 50 years ago.

The fact that Santorum has a problem with mainline Protestants these days – that he goes to the point of suggesting they aren’t true Christians – is flat out bizarre.

And it’s highly inconsistent with the teachings of the Church in regards to Ecumenism – which isn’t surprising considering that Santorum leans towards a faction within Catholicism that often has diverted from respecting the Magisterium.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Slightly o/t
On ABC’s news show this am, Will was saying “No one is talking about, or wants to, ban contraceptives.” And one of the jack-wagons pipes in “Santorum does”. Everyone jumped all over him.

That’s what we have to look forward to. I’ve already had 2 conversations with libs where they’ve said something similar.

LtGenRob on February 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

dforston, I agree with you. I think Rick was trying to say that Obummer’s political ideology is his religion.

Philly on February 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM

My observation has been that 75% of the posts here are motiviated by some kind of hate or negative emotion toward a candidate. As far as religion goes, you are absolutely correct that bigotry exists on both sides. But why does Santorum even allow himself to get into these discussions – or even start them himself? It would be easy enough to brush off questions about his or any other candidate’s personal theology and focus on winning issues for the GOP – the economy and Obama’s job performance. The fact that Santorum can’t – or won’t – do this is troubling.

Priscilla on February 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

It’s not just Obama’s theology that Santorum has problems with…he also thinks mainline Protestants aren’t Christians.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-digs-up-2008-santorum-speech-stating-protestants-are-gone-from-the-world-of-christianity/

JA on February 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Uh-oh.

Philly on February 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

You are Pollyanna living in Fantasy Land if you don’t think the entire talk (had Mitt Romney have wrapped up everything by now) wouldn’t have centered on Mormanism.

What’s funny is how PEEVED David Gregory got at Paul Ryan for that “Are you going to ask me about the budget?” Gregory said “Listen, these are issues the country is talking about” and his brain was going a mile a minute: If I have anything to do with it!

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Obama and Axelrod aren’t stupid. Making your political opponent’s religion an issue is a big no-no these days. They wouldn’t touch Mormonism with a 12 ft pole. Swing voters just hate that.

David Gregory was exactly right – these are the issues the country is talking about. Just check HotAir, for example.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM

FYI my MIL who is mega-lib, said this am that she gets sick and tired of the same crap every presidential elections about abortion and stuff like that. She does support the pill, because there are so many teens (she brought up the demographics with the African American community), but teens as young as one of my nieces-12-are having sex as of now and are unprotected.

I told her that without counting NuvaRing, IUD and others that are not pklls there are 98 brands out there. That my concerns are the side effects as I have experienced them, that they may forget to take them and other stuff (I put all of them on my blog). She supports the government to supply them.

There is one occasion where they were PRESCRIBED to me and it was because of anemia that we tried multiple times to fix. Trust me I felt so bad and soooooo weird! Here’s a young teenager virgin taking that stuff to avoid babies but I had to take them in order to fix another problem that was a life long issue.

I know this falls in the TMI Department but I wanted to post what I went through; under strict control of docs, we had to tackle this problem. This is an exception to the rule and I KNEW BETTER than the poorly raised chicks now that either don’t care, are under peer pressure or guys threaten to leave them if they are not “intimate” with them.

FYI I may not read feedbacks right away but look fwd to; they wanna throw my bday party today even though it’s next week b/c I can’t make it here.

Hope my .02 helped with the discussion.

ProudPalinFan on February 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

THERE ARE SOME ATTACKS THAT THOUGH TUE SHOULD NOT BE MADE BY THE PRESIDENT BUT BY SURROGATES.

THIS IS ONE.

reliapundit on February 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

The narrative on Rick is already been formed. So if he’s being shown as this crazy Catholic he may as well portray obozo as being a member of a crazier church that most Americans aren’t fimiliar with.

Flange on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

..understand your sentiments and I don’t know how Santorum does this..adroitly. He has to walk the fine line between addressing these issues and making sure the message of Obama’s pathetic stewardship of the nation has exacerbated the bad economy and stalled the recovery.

The recent kerfuffles — and, indeed, his early debate performances — have him coming off as peevish and argumentative.

You all remember how you reacted when Romney spat back at Brett Baer? (Warning: BOREilly in clip.) This is more or less the same thing.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.”

From each according to their abilities?

iurockhead on February 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Obama motivated by a “different theology”

It’s about time our pols get around to acknowledging that ‘liberation theology’ is not just another variation of Christianity. It is a contrived version of Marxism that exploits Christianity for political ends. David Horowitz, among the first to document this, keeps many articles explaining this on his site, and here’s a good one Catholics for Marx, By Fr. Robert Sirico, FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

HT: ITguy on February 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

petefrt on February 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I’m not a huge Santorum fan, but he speaks the truth here. Barack’s ideology is one black liberation/marxism/islam.

SouthernGent on February 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Nice try, Ed. But if you have to dig into Obama quotes from a few weeks ago to show Santorum didn’t start a theological argument, you’re already losing.

Besides, Santorum’s quote IS out of the blue. What does he think, that people want a President who governs the country by reading from the Bible? He could have made the same point by (accurately) asserting that Obama and his ilk make energy policy based on a psuedo-science environmentalist creed that amounts to a religious orthodoxy without bringing the Bible into it.

Besides, Obama has more leeway to (mis)represent his policies as something Jesus would have him do because no one seriously believes he’s earnest about it. He’s not out there making stupid statements about how people have no reasonable expectation of privacy in their own homes to have consensual sex because it might lead to the accepance of incest, bestiality, pedophilia, and (gasp!) homosexuality.

In short, people have every reason to suspect Santorum is a big government religious zealot and NO reason to suspect Obama of being anything but big government for its own sake. We can gripe about unfair that might be, or we can acknowledge reality.

DRayRaven on February 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Too bad Odummer lies so much.

tarpon on February 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM

..and, respectfully, Santorum will be explaining and clarifying something that will distract form the one thing that can bring Obama down: his pathetic record on the economy.

Dilute this message and you risk defeat.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 10:38 AM

But isn’t Obama himself diluting the “it’s the economy, stupid” message by bringing religion into it in the first place? Maybe it’s because I’m not a politician, but you can bet your sweet ass if someone says to me, “The Bible says we should be marxists,” I’m going to point out that’s not the God that I worship.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM

It would be easy enough to brush off questions about his or any other candidate’s personal theology and focus on winning issues for the GOP – the economy and Obama’s job performance. The fact that Santorum can’t – or won’t – do this is troubling.

Priscilla on February 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM


..nothing but net!

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:14 AM

David Gregory was exactly right – these are the issues the country is talking about. Just check HotAir, for example.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM

So you would have been fine with “Here we have Mitt Romney to talk about President Obama’s budget released last week” and after 20 minutes of questions about the gay marriage, his dog on the car roof, being a Mormon, gay marriage, the Mormon Church rules on blacks prior to 1973, gay marriage, abortion, and gay marriage …..

Marcus on February 19, 2012 at 11:14 AM

I completely agree that people should pay for their own prenatal testing. The problem is that Santorum is the same guy who voted for, say, the Medicare bribe – the biggest entitlement expansion in decades and a bill that we have no way to pay for. It’s inconsistent and it fits the narrative that he doesn’t seem to care much about women.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Yes he cares so little about women that he doesn’t think they should be in combat positions in the military, and I agree. He cares so little about women that he married one and had kids with her and still loves her and as far as we know hasn’t run around on her.

Call me chauvenistic but I see nothing that Santorum has said or done to denegrate women. As a matter of fact it’s the left that constantly denegrates not only women but everyone with their constant pandering and overbearing nannyism. Per the marxist left women are too stupid to get contraceptives on their own, the government must mandate it for them. The government must pay for abortions and we must have abortions because women are too stupid to be personally responsible. I can go on and on about everything on the marxist left but why bother as there are plenty who are too stupid and will buy whatever it is they are selling.

bgibbs1000 on February 19, 2012 at 11:14 AM

The MSM’s Spanish Inquisition on Conservative beliefs,oh wait….
maybe its the “Salem Witch Trials”!!!
(sarc)

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

The recent kerfuffles — and, indeed, his early debate performances — have him coming off as peevish and argumentative.

You all remember how you reacted when Romney spat back at Brett Baer? (Warning: BOREilly in clip.) This is more or less the same thing.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Okay. If I concede that point, then how come so many folks are telling me that Romney is so much better as a candidate than Santorum is, almost as if I’m going to roast in the ninth level of hell if I don’t vote for His Royal Mittness?

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

But isn’t Obama himself diluting the “it’s the economy, stupid” message by bringing religion into it in the first place? Maybe it’s because I’m not a politician, but you can bet your sweet ass if someone says to me, “The Bible says we should be marxists,” I’m going to point out that’s not the God that I worship.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM

yes; yes; adroitly not argumentatively.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

The fact that Santorum has a problem with mainline Protestants these days – that he goes to the point of suggesting they aren’t true Christians – is flat out bizarre.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Not really. It’s not much different than saying Planned Parenthood has become an abortion mill.

Mainline protestantism has become more of a political club – a left leaning political club.

MeatHeadinCA on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

I think Rick was trying to say that Obummer’s political ideology is his religion.

Philly on February 19, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Bingo. That’s exactly the point.

petefrt on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Yes Santy. The difference in Obama’s theology is that it doesn’t want women barefoot and pregnant.

lester on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Some phony theology.

As if there are any theologies that aren’t phony.

ernesto on February 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Good on Rick for taking this fight to the core. That is where hearts and minds will be changed and this election will be won.

Galadriel on February 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Woot, Woot. Yeah, man!! Rick Santorum should start calling Obama a socialist, and a communist and a muslim from Kenya! Yeah, that’ll sure sure ‘em! And then, when he’s done with that, Rick Santorum should launch an investigation into Obama’s college transcripts. These are EXACTLY the kinds of issues that a Republican presidential candidate should be talking about day and night. Man, that Obama wouldn’t know what hit him if he is faced with those kinds of attacks. /sarc

ACTUALLY, no, these kinds of attacks are politically IDIOTIC. “Hearts and minds” will be changed, alright, with that kind of focus, and it would be to Obama’s benefit.

bluegill on February 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

One of the altars at which Obama worships is Social Justice. On Wednesday (I think) of this past week, in the Wall Street Journal’s Notables & Quotables section, it quoted an excerpt from a December 2011 syndicated column by Thomas Sowell. It read as follows:

What do you call it when someone steals someone else’s money secretly? Theft. What do you call it when someone takes someone else’s money openly by force? Robbery. What do you call it when a politician takes someone else’s money in taxes and gives it to someone who is more likely to vote for him? Social Justice.

Seems to me it sums up at least part of Obama’s set of core beliefs.

Here’s a link to the entire column:

http://www.creators.com/conservative/thomas-sowell/random-thoughts-11-12-27.html

BuckeyeSam on February 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I’m not a huge Santorum fan, but he speaks the truth here. Barack’s ideology is one black liberation/marxism/islam.

SouthernGent on February 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM

SouthernGent:On Hopey,you are correct!:)

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

It’s about time our pols get around to acknowledging that ‘liberation theology’ is not just another variation of Christianity. It is a contrived version of Marxism that exploits Christianity for political ends. David Horowitz, among the first to document this, keeps many articles explaining this on his site, and here’s a good one Catholics for Marx, By Fr. Robert Sirico, FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004
HT: ITguy on February 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

petefrt on February 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM

YES !

I missed this yesterday, so thanks for reposting, petefrt.

listens2glenn on February 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

ed…I don’t think your boy Santorum can get pigeonholed any further than he already is.

DHChron on February 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

yes; yes; adroitly not argumentatively.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Whatever happened to “politics ain’t beanbag?” Look, I can at least believe that Rick Santorum believes what he says and won’t be changing his mind days or weeks later in the name of his personal ambition. I can’t say the same about Mitt. Now whether I agree with everything Santorum says in his stump speeches? That’s another matter altogether. I’m fine with being told Santorum isn’t a constitutional conservative. What I’m not okay with is some huckster trying to sell me Mitt as the constitutional conservative alternative. HE’S NOT.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Okay. If I concede that point, then how come so many folks are telling me that Romney is so much better as a candidate than Santorum is, almost as if I’m going to roast in the ninth level of hell if I don’t vote for His Royal Mittness?

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM

..not saying Romney will handle this better; just linked to that clip to show how truly badly petulance plays out in public during an election campaign. Remember Dole’s “Where’s the outrage?”

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The books by James H. Cone, Wright’s own mentor, were prominent and numerous.

Now that I have read a number of the books that presumably Wright’s congregants (including Barack Obama) have also read, I can only conclude that the thing tying these volumes together is not Christianity, nor any real religion, but the political philosophy of Karl Marx.

“The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.”

“Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.” (emphasis mine)
– Marx and Engels; The Communist Manifesto; 1848…

Religion and revolutionaries

Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people.- Karl Marx

We need to take faith seriously not simply to block the religious right but to engage all persons of faith in the larger project of American renewal.- Barack Obama; The Audacity of Hope; p. 216

Karl Marx seemed to regard religion as one of the toughest roadblocks to mounting and sustaining a proper revolution by the proletariat. That the masses would continue to stubbornly cling to their religions, placing their hope in God rather than man, was evidently one of the more prickly thorns in ole Karl’s side.

Speakup on February 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Sigh! Double facepalm. why does he have to expound on these issues that will kill him in the general!

gerrym51 on February 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Ya know,I wish Team Blue and the ever helpful inbedded journalOlisters from the MSM would be as fixated with
zeal/zest,into Obama religion(s)!

canopfor on February 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Santorum is the guy you nominate if you want Barack and the Dems to have control over all three branches of government.

If he’s the GOP nominee, his supporters will spend more time explaining and defending Santorum’s religious views and his extreme positions on social issues than they will attacking Obama. And all the downticket candidates will spend most of their time running away from him.

Santorum = landslide for Obama

DRayRaven on February 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

..not saying Romney will handle this better; just linked to that clip to show how truly badly petulance plays out in public during an election campaign. Remember Dole’s “Where’s the outrage?”

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Yeah. But to pretend that it’s ONLY how things get said instead of WHAT gets said, that’s just pure folly. Dole lost along with George H.W. “No New Taxes” Bush for reasons that went beyond rhetoric.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Obama believes that your money is his money to do with what he pleases. Unfortunately, he’s not the only clown in Washington that thinks so. And we keep voting for the same clowns, hoping for a different result. The ruling class has no shame whatsoever.

racquetballer on February 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Sigh! Double facepalm. why does he have to expound on these issues that will kill him in the general!

gerrym51 on February 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM

cause he’s an idiot

DHChron on February 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

I’m fine with being told Santorum isn’t a constitutional conservative. What I’m not okay with is some huckster trying to sell me Mitt as the constitutional conservative alternative. HE’S NOT.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM

..understand (and respect) your point of view. I ain’t sellin’ Mitt. I am hoping that Santorum will sell himself convincingly if he’s our nominee.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Yes, that’s right. Let’s have this my gawd can kick your gawd’s ass debate. This election shouldn’t be about whether religion our nation is all about forcing religion down the people’s throat. It must be about which religion to force.

Here’s my modest proposal. Congress must get to the bottom of this bible thing right away. We should hold hearings to find out just what Jesus would do. If need be, we need to subpoena Jeremiah Wright and Pat Robertson to testify before Congress and settle the matter over whether the social justice Jesus or the no sex without children Jesus is the “true” faith. Whenever we have a big question to solve, we can haul the new American Cardinal to square off with Jesse Jackson and find out what the real Jesus wants us to do.

Our shores were settled by people who fled the old country to escape persecution from the wrong kind Jesus just so that they could impose the right kind of Jesus on posterity. That’s why our founders, in all their foresight, wrote a Constitution to ensure that only the strong Jesus will be the law of our land. So let’s get to it. Let the the liberal Jesus square off for all the marbles with conservative Jesus, live on national TV!

MJBrutus on February 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

At this pace, if he’s the nominee he’ll simply destroy down-ticket republicans.

joana on February 19, 2012 at 10:41 AM

You are right…should do what McCain and Romney have done, praise Obama, and kiss his ring.
Honey, when you are morally right, you don’t have to cater to the wrong side because you are “afraid” of what people think.
People, most people, think righteous thoughts, and Rick is in that category. Running around being afraid of taking on Obama, won’t win the race, that’s already been tried, and that is why Romney is losing.
Rick has attacked him on the economy, and now is attacking him on the policy that Obama wants to make the central issue…and he is losing that also.
What this shows is that Rick is taking Obama down, no matter what tactics Obama uses.
The economy is obvious, energy is obvious, and Rick nails him on that every chance…but this tactic, what looked like a way to deflect some of Obama’s problems, have created a whole new set for him…losing the Catholic vote, and that means a good portion of the Hispanic vote, is devastating….and Rick ain’t backing down, unlike Romney.

right2bright on February 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM

..understand (and respect) your point of view. I ain’t sellin’ Mitt. I am hoping that Santorum will sell himself convincingly if he’s our nominee.

The War Planner on February 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM

You’re not the worst of the bunch by far, planner. I just have this terrible feeling that every time I listen to one of Mitt’s stump speeches, I go back in time to “Dapper Dan’s Miracle Medicine Show,” if you know what I mean.

gryphon202 on February 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM

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