Quotes of the day

posted at 10:15 pm on February 18, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

“The ombudsman will be charged with increasing awareness of the law regarding civil unions, will provide a clear point of contact for those who have questions or concerns and will be required to report any evidence of the law being violated. In this way, we can ensure equal treatment under the law,” Christie said in a statement.

He asked lawmakers to quit pursuing gay marriage legislation and instead create an ombudsman for civil unions of same-sex couples who would “carry on New Jersey’s strong tradition of tolerance and fairness.”

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“I’ve been meaning to post on this. Last weekend, at the Los Angeles Times, Harvard Professor Michael Klarman argued that gay marriage is inevitable in the United States. Klarman makes two points: (1) that as more and more people come to know someone who is gay they are reluctant to deprive them of “rights” such as same-sex marriage and (2) that younger Americans are more tolerant of gay marriage and thus the younger demographic cohort will compose a larger, decisive share of the electorate as older, more conservative voters pass from the political scene.”

But one of the things that bothers me even about promoting state-level votes to allow gay marriage is that the radical left gay rights lobby has worked aggressively and viciously to demonize and discredit the democratic process when it comes to same-sex rights. A small but extremely vocal minority has essential flipped James Madison’s fear of tyranny of the majority on its head: now an in-your-face totalitarian gay militia will attack, stalk, berate, threaten, and destroy opponents of same-sex marriage.

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Christie conditionally vetoed the bill six hours after it reached his desk, a day after the state Assembly gave the final legislative approval that he said he would not support.

“I have been just as adamant that same-sex couples in a civil union deserve the very same rights and benefits enjoyed by married couples — as well as the strict enforcement of those rights and benefits,” Christie said in a prepared statement.

“Discrimination should not be tolerated and any complaint alleging a violation of a citizen’s right should be investigated and, if appropriate, remedied.”

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“It’s unfortunate that the governor would let his own personal ideology infringe on the rights of thousands of New Jerseyans,” said Reed Gusciora, one of two openly gay New Jersey lawmakers and a sponsor of the bill. “For all those who oppose marriage equality, their lives would have been completely unchanged by this bill, but for same-sex couples, their lives would have been radically transformed. Unfortunately, the governor couldn’t see past his own personal ambitions to honor this truth.”

Senate Democratic leaders were more blunt in their criticism of the governor.

“He had a chance to do the right thing, and failed miserably,” Senate President Steve Sweeney said.

“Don’t be fooled by the governor’s call for a public referendum or his idea of an ombudsman for civil unions — it is nothing more than a political smoke screen designed to cover the tracks of those retreating from their leadership and lawmaking responsibilities,” Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg said.

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Could Chris Christie be wavering?

“I wish I could say the circus was over. But it’s just intermission. The proponents of unnatural marriage vow to keep on fighting. And Christie’s conditional veto leaves them a foot in the door.”

“But really, in the meantime can we please try to address some issues which actually matter? Folks who don’t have a job and can’t feed their families aren’t particularly worried about the tribulations of Adam and Steve. ”

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Fresh meat for Dr. Tesla.

Ugh.

JPeterman on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Ann Coulter’s heart throb is a flaming lefty RINO.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Let Gaymes begin.

BoxHead1 on February 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM

…………….and we’re told that “social issues” don’t matter. Stay away from the RINO Infested gop leadership tells us.

but oddly enough, the Radical left doesn’t seem to mind being on OFFENSE to advance their view of “social issues”.

THIS is the result of the self-castration of the gop that began on the night that GEORGE BUSH told the gop convention in 1988 that we needed a “KINDER, GENTLER” Conservatism. That was code for we’re going to roll over and let the Progressives do what they want.

NO MORE MR. NICE GUY Republican.

Let’s go on offense on all issues. Social, Fiscal, Defense, you name it.


GAME ON YA FRIGGIN LEFTIES.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

(2) that younger Americans are more tolerant

Naturally! They have few principles and absolutely no shame.

OldEnglish on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

It’s 3-Ring Ghey-ness @ Hot Air! Shouldn’t there be a parade or balloon-drop or sumpin?
:D

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Just a temporary road block in the Culture Wars. Conservatives will loose again, and always if the Left has it’s way.

Time to do something different. If, as the Left avows, homosexuality is biologically preset, and not a developmental error, then there is a marker in the DNA. Fund research to find that marker. Publicize the marker in pre-natal testing in Planned Parenthood clinics. Problem solved in a generation.

It’s not like the Left actually cares about homosexuals. They are just another tool to crush conservatives, and control society.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Ann Coulter’s heart throb is a flaming lefty RINO.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

It seems like she has a crush on him even though she is skinny and he is a lard ball.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

One gay guy says to another at the bar: “Can I push in that stool for you.”

I can’t believe some people think this is funny.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Time to do something different. If, as the Left avows, homosexuality is biologically preset, and not a developmental error, then there is a marker in the DNA. Fund research to find that marker. Publicize the marker in pre-natal testing in Planned Parenthood clinics. Problem solved in a generation.

It’s not like the Left actually cares about homosexuals. They are just another tool to crush conservatives, and control society.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Rush once said that if this was ever accomplished the left, and especially the gay left, would become pro-life overnight.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM

It seems like she has a crush on him even though she is skinny and he is a lard ball.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Maybe AC has a cushion fetish?

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Maybe AC has a cushion fetish?

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

More cushion for the pushing?

JPeterman on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Is HA planning to give out Donna Summers CDs and a lifetime supply of glitter to a lucky poster tonight?

Flange on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Well at least its not Palin, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, I guess.

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

More cushion for the pushing?

JPeterman on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 PM

That’s how the saying used to go.:)

But you need to “country” it up just a bit.

More cushion for the pushin’.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Could Chris Christie be wavering?
“I wish I could say the circus was over. But it’s just intermission. The proponents of unnatural marriage vow to keep on fighting. And Christie’s conditional veto leaves them a foot in the door.”
“But really, in the meantime can we please try to address some issues which actually matter? Folks who don’t have a job and can’t feed their families aren’t particularly worried about the tribulations of Adam and Steve. ”

Well, we know what we are going to discuss along with class warfare until November! It won’t be the economy, cost of food, cost of gas or energy in general. No one will be underwater with their mortgages, incomes will rise, employment will be at 4.5 %, pensions will be funded, municipalities will be flush with cash…etc…and we will have condoms!

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:36 PM

NarutoKenin, ernesto and libtard4life in 3…2…1…

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

That gay couple that just move from Boston to Hoboken, Patrick Fitzhugh and Hugh Fitzpatrick, are outrageously outraged.

M240H on February 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Ann Coulter’s heart throb is a flaming lefty RINO.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

When it comes to Christie, I can forgive Ann a little. He knows how to sell conservatism, he’s got that ability to relate to the average voters. While he is definitely a RINO on the social front, he is good on fiscal conservatism and the ability to articulate it.

Romney, on the other hand, is in the John Kerry league when it comes to relating to the average guy, not to mention selling conservatism, even fiscal conservatism. He is a lock-jaw or a natural appeaser when it comes to educating the populace about conservatism, either fiscal or social. Why Ann is going down with him is a mystery, still.

TXUS on February 18, 2012 at 10:39 PM

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Neal Boortz is like this. He is always claiming that science has settled the fact that homosexuality is in the genes. In the same breath, he’ll denounce the very same science (rightfully so) on global warming.
All because he once had a gay friend that died in a hospice.

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

…their neighbors, Neil and Bob, are pretty upset, too

M240H on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Christie has disappointed me today. It was a smart play if he runs for national office in the future, but it just reeked of pure political football.

mythicknight on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 PM

TXUS on February 18, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Fiscal conservatism is fine. I’m a big believer in it. But I’m one of those people who think that social liberalism conflicts with fiscal conservatism. Social liberalism can be costly.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Naturally! They have few principles and absolutely no shame.

OldEnglish on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

A lot of them have been brainwashed at school. That’s why I brainwashed and scotchguarded mine before she started kindergarten. She can spot a commie from a mile away and she’s only 12!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Well at least its not Palin, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, I guess.

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 PM

You DID ask for something different!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I proudly support Straight Marriage.

portlandon on February 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Ann Coulter’s heart throb is a flaming lefty RINO.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM
It seems like she has a crush on him even though she is skinny and he is a lard ball.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Well……………..she is a spinner!/

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

A lot of them have been brainwashed at school. That’s why I brainwashed and scotchguarded mine before she started kindergarten. She can spot a commie from a mile away and she’s only 12!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM

That’s why I say time and time again. We have to get the schools back. We are lost if we don’t.

Dumping the Federal Dept. of Education would be a good start, but what’s the likelihood of that?

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Could Chris Christie be wavering?

Does a RINO poop on the GOP?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Naturally! They have few principles and absolutely no shame.

OldEnglish on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Spawn-like me and his step-dad-supports civil unions. We all believe that ‘marriage’ is one man+one woman. NOTHING else.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Well……………..she is a spinner!/

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Heh-heh. We used to call it “helicoptering.”

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I’m a chemist, Lanceman, not a genetic biologist.

I had no idea who Neal Boortz is. My idea was from first principles, and a way to draw bright lines in a culture war gone mad. To the Left, conservatives are the new Jewish problem. It’s increasingly looking like us or them time.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I think this is an issue where everyone should unite to search for a cure.

Ted Torgerson on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 PM

NarutoKenin, ernesto and libtard4life in 3…2…1…

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Past their bedtime!…and then there’s that feeding at two or three AM, along with the diaper change….

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:52 PM

That’s why I say time and time again. We have to get the schools back. We are lost if we don’t.

Dumping the Federal Dept. of Education would be a good start, but what’s the likelihood of that?

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I am lucky to live in a REALLY conservative pocket in PA. So many people complained about Obama giving those speeches to kids during school they quit even showing them. Originally, they sent a letter home saying the child could opt out and go sit in the library till it was over. I didn’t even have to do that, because when my daughter hears Obama talking, she just goes “blah, blah, blah, whatever…”

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:52 PM

A small but extremely vocal minority has essential flipped James Madison’s fear of tyranny of the majority on its head: now an in-your-face totalitarian gay militia will attack, stalk, berate, threaten, and destroy opponents of same-sex marriage.

This more than anything causes people to not support gay marriage. To many people, these thugs are who they picture as gay. Violent, nasty, verbal and physical assailants who try to silence anyone who dares not worship at their altar.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 10:53 PM

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Awful lot of faith you have in science. You don’t ask for that kind of proof in the existence of god now, do you?

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Does a RINO poop on the GOP?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Stop! We’d all die! That would be worse than a bunker buster! …Oh! You meant figuratively…never mind!

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:55 PM

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Unoppressed people playing the victim while actively trying to oppress gays…hilarious.

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Awful lot of faith you have in science. You don’t ask for that kind of proof in the existence of god now, do you?

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I do. Do you support government funding for science to prove God exists?

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM

SOMEONE please tell Christ Christie to STAY AWAY FROM THE SOCIAL ISSUES.

This is toxic to the gop……………..but hey it’s golden for the Democrats.

funny how that works.

Kind of like the Progressive Democrats are all PRO-CHOICE when it comes to butchering the unborn in the womb but the same people will be happy to deny CHOICE to a Mom that sends a Turkey Sandwich with her child to a public school if she chooses too. THAT is where they draw the line…………

…..Murdering okie dokie, not abiding by USDA guidelines for your kids meals not so okie, and not even a bit dokie.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Time to do something different. If, as the Left avows, homosexuality is biologically preset, and not a developmental error, then there is a marker in the DNA. Fund research to find that marker. Publicize the marker in pre-natal testing in Planned Parenthood clinics. Problem solved in a generation.

It’s not like the Left actually cares about homosexuals. They are just another tool to crush conservatives, and control society.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:24 PM

I missed your comment. I know you didn’t mean to say you hoped gay people would all be aborted, but I agree that is where we are headed. That is why I say we need to find a cure – to save these babies before a genetic test is discovered and they become like Downs syndrome babies. Scary stuff.

Ted Torgerson on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 PM

NarutoKenin, ernesto and libtard4life in 3…2…1…

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Past their bedtime!…and then there’s that feeding at two or three AM, along with the diaper change….

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Oh Oh!

Awful lot of faith you have in science. You don’t ask for that kind of proof in the existence of god now, do you?

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Lanceman!…Crystal ball or Taro Cards! How do you do it!

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Unoppressed people playing the victim while actively trying to oppress gays…hilarious.

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM

I knew you wouldn’t get it. It’s nice to know you support their tactics.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM

“Discrimination should not be tolerated and any complaint alleging a violation of a citizen’s right should be investigated and, if appropriate, remedied.”

“You’re should-ing all over yourself.”

Kenosha Kid on February 18, 2012 at 11:04 PM

We all believe that ‘marriage’ is one man+one woman. NOTHING else.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I have no problem either with the Civil Unions, and I get no arguments from my gay friends, about what ‘marriage’ is.

KOOLAID2 on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Unoppressed people playing the victim while actively trying to oppress gays…hilarious.

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Doesn’t it tire you to be so outraged all the time?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Gays are wicked annoying. That’s about it. All these articles about how “everything is gay” just piss me off to the point where I would rather not vote for their “rights”. Everytime I read an an article about how Jesus, or rap music, or sushi and burritos are really gay – well that’s the kind of sh!t that gets under my skin. If gays would stop being annoying, I think they’d find a much more sympathetic audience. I agree with gay rights in the abstract but they just rub me the wrong way – but I suppose they will call me gay for saying “rub me the wrong way”.

abobo on February 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM

All because he once had a gay friend that died in a hospice.

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I’m guessing that his friend died of AIDS related complications. But if he would logically analyze the facts, he would see that the main reason AIDS exploded on the world is the total loosening of social mores in the late Sixties and early Seventies.

That is when it started being “okay” to be out and proud. And the bathhouses and sex clubs sprang up like weeds. Boortz should direct his anger at those who think this was a good thing for society.

One of these days I’m going to put up a website with pictures of some of the victims of AIDS as they die in hospices. Believe me, you will lose your lunch just seeing some of those people and there is nothing we can do for them.

But just let somebody talk about how much of a death sentence the rainbow lifestyle is and the name-calling bricks start flying. Anything but admit the truth – we who oppose all this equality/acceptance crap are trying to save lives.

platypus on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Maryland could soon be a gay haven.

News2Use on February 18, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I blame Bush. Doesn’t matter what it is. I just blame Bush.

/

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Fiscal conservatism is fine. I’m a big believer in it. But I’m one of those people who think that social liberalism conflicts with fiscal conservatism. Social liberalism can be costly.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I consider myself socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. What aspect of social liberalism is costly? What specifically about gay marriage? Do you mean strictly financially?

I don’t personally understand why everyone is so threatened, but then again, I am one of those “younger” people having grown up knowing many gay people & families and doesn’t see what the big deal is. If it’s not about rights/benefits (e.g “we have civil unions”), but about the word “marriage”, then it seems even more ridiculous and petty to me. Does any one particular religion own the word “marriage”?

Legalizing gay marriage doesn’t mean you have to like it. I have a friend who is a very religious Christian, and she says that although her religion considers homosexuality a sin, we are all flawed in some way or form, and so she can accept this (on a personal level) as a flaw in the gay people she knows, and still keep these people in her lives as friends. I don’t like that she considers it a flaw, but she is accepting and that’s all I can ask of her. I wish the rest of the country would see it the same way, and pass an ammendment already and get this in the books the LEGAL way, like women’s rights.

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The GOP will betray you..:)

Dire Straits on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM

its hard to take someone as fat as christie seriously. seriously.

renalin on February 18, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I consider myself socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. What aspect of social liberalism is costly?

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Seriously?

Try Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welafre, food stamps, public housing, section 8, abortion subsidizing, free cell phones, subsidized utilities and the list goes on and on.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I live in mass.We have had gay marriage here for several years and before you blame Romney our state supreme court said we had to have it.

If there was a referendum on it I would vote against.

However like i said we have had it for several year and you know what has happened-wait for it- NOTHING.

Occasionally you read in the paper about a gay couple getting divorced. Occasionaly a gay couple marriage announcment.

Other than that diddly squat. If gays are not in your circle of acquantances you are oblivious to it.

Just my 2 cents.

gerrym51 on February 18, 2012 at 11:14 PM

I wish the rest of the country would see it the same way, and pass an ammendment already and get this in the books the LEGAL way, like women’s rights.

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The better bet is to get the government out of marriage altogether. Gays will be happy and religions will be happy.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Fewer than four percent of this nation’s populace self-identify as gay. “young people”, according to the above article, support gay marriage. Well, for the last fifteen years, the gay lobby/Hollywood has been making it de rigeur to put a gay person in each sitcom/drama. If there isn’t a gay, then the show is essentially “outed” as intolerant toward gays until a gay character is introduced. They were young when this all began appearing on TV, can we say indoctrination by the Left? They think gay marriage is acceptable–without realizing how few gay people there really are in the US.

Why are people who don’t believe in gay marriage considered intolerant? How does that make me intolerant when it goes against my religious upbringing? Just because someone labels me “intolerant”, doesn’t make me intolerant, I just don’t agree with the position of gay marriage.

herm2416 on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Sorry to preempt predator or Bmore for music, but I am in the mood.
This conductor for President!

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Good for you, and your daughter! I did the same with mine – a long time age. After my youngest got married, I got to work on her husband. Took several years, but I got there. Got him to change his mind on buying, rather than renting his home – for which he is now eternally grateful.

OldEnglish on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I wasn’t referring to gay marriage specifically. I’m against that for other reasons.

Social liberalism, in my opinion, has led to more single mothers who often need government assistance, more abortions, which also draw federal dollars, etc.

Basically, social liberalism has led to a lot of government programs which are costly to us all.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

“It’s unfortunate that the governor would let his own personal ideology infringe on the rights of thousands of New Jerseyans,”

Yeah, that Gov is a tyrant.
The only one who is allowed to let his own personal ideology infringe on the rights of millions of Catholics of America is Comrade Obama Hussein Odinga

burrata on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Ted Torgerson on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 PM

We must have more research funding! /underfunded scientist rant off. LOL.

Seriously, a cure would imply that we can selectively affect a cluster of gene-expression during development from a single-cell. Identification is a much simpler issue.

Under the current administration, no governmental funding agency would touch this research. But the idea can be used to curb some of the excesses among the crazed gay activists. Like, keep pushing man-boy sex as your right, and we will fund some research ourselves. Because the activists do not respond to rational arguments on societal limitations of their personal desires.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 11:18 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Yeah, but you’re just annoying/Left. :)

OldEnglish on February 18, 2012 at 11:19 PM

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

hmmmm. I suspect a shameless plug. ;)

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Since you seem to think they are an equivalent lifestyle, go sign up as a volunteer at an AIDS hospice. Hold hands with someone who is dying of an almost always self-inflicted disease.

And then go to some gay men’s health center and check out the magazines that describe how to live with AIDS as long as you can get the cocktail. Look at the pictures of the young virile guys doing all sorts of outdoor activities such as hiking and rock climbing.

Nothing in there about the price of the drugs that make a person look well while being very ill. Nothing in there about how they can still transmit the disease even though they do not feel sick.

Then go back and look at each of your friends and tell yourself that very few of them will live to see 50.

Come back and tell us how it’s all okay.

platypus on February 18, 2012 at 11:21 PM

The GOP will betray you..:)

Dire Straits on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Yeah. And Palinoia will destroy ya :P

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I agree with gay rights in the abstract but they just rub me the wrong way – but I suppose they will call me gay for saying “rub me the wrong way”.

abobo on February 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Your entire post was very good. Had gay neighbors at our other residence. I liked them both—the “husband” a bit more. We go up there several times a year. After not seeing the older fellow on two of our visits we wondered what happened. His partner told us he had died two months earlier and obviously was still upset. So was I and shed a few tears. I still think that lifestyle is out of the norm but I can love and respect them. But Mike and Bill can’t be “married”.

arnold ziffel on February 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Gays are wicked annoying. That’s about it. All these articles about how “everything is gay” just piss me off to the point where I would rather not vote for their “rights”. Everytime I read an an article about how Jesus, or rap music, or sushi and burritos are really gay – well that’s the kind of sh!t that gets under my skin. If gays would stop being annoying, I think they’d find a much more sympathetic audience. I agree with gay rights in the abstract but they just rub me the wrong way – but I suppose they will call me gay for saying “rub me the wrong way”.

abobo on February 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Yes, there are loud annoying gay people. There are also loud annoying Jewish people (I know, I’m one of them). Loud annoying Italian people… loud annoying Hispanic people… you name it. I say if everyone just let it go, and let gay people use the word “marriage” too, there’d be a lot less noise for you to tune out.

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Rush once said that if this was ever accomplished the left, and especially the gay left, would become pro-life overnight.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Rush is a dinosaur. Reagan, Buckley and Kemp would puke if they were here to see what he’s become. A professional bullsh**ter. Most of you eat his garbage up like it’s dipped in Gold.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:26 PM

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Only if you are in Austria. It’s just a rousing piece of music that all should hear. This conductor rocks and at 8:17 see where he is not to be messed with.

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Sorry to preempt predator or Bmore for music, but I am in the mood.
This conductor for President!

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Well thank you for that, my kind of music. And I’ve been in that concert hall in Vienna a few times. It’s magnificent.

JPeterman on February 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Seriously, a cure would imply that we can selectively affect a cluster of gene-expression during development from a single-cell. Identification is a much simpler issue.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Mothers do affect cell clusters through hormones released in the right amounts and on the right days of fetal development. I think within 50 years there will be a pre-natal hormonal cure for pedophilia and homosexuality, or rather a treatment could be found if the research was made.

Ted Torgerson on February 18, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 11:22 PM

LoLz..I don’t remember True_King saying anything about the Palinoia..:)

Dire Straits on February 18, 2012 at 11:28 PM

I’m a chemist, Lanceman, not a genetic biologist.

I had no idea who Neal Boortz is.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Heh. So am I. And now I’m an electrican. But Boortz is a radio talk show syndicated out of Atlanta.
He’s a libertarian and like all Libertarians goes too far. He doesn’t ‘see’ how gay marriage affects him. Lotta Libertarians are too myopic to see the moral sewer society becomes because of drugs, homosexual acceptance (reverence, ernesto), promiscuity, etc.

Look. I’m as much the problem as the next man, what with my adulterous exploits (any sex out of wedlock is adultery), however, I do not actively and vocally promote them. Nor do I look to society for acceptance or special privileges.

Lanceman on February 18, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Rush is a dinosaur. Reagan, Buckley and Kemp would puke if they were here to see what he’s become. A professional bullsh**ter. Most of you eat his garbage up like it’s dipped in Gold.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Wrong-o. But thanks for painting with a broad brush. I work while he’s on, so I never hear him. It was a quote by him I read several years back. And on this, I think he’s right.

You’re going to tell me that if this information became available, and people started aborting babies that had a “gay gene” the left wouldn’t go apoplectic? And their only option would be to oppose abortion, unless they tried to stop only those specific abortions, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least. They will stop at nothing.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I support anyone who is against Statism…gay, straight, christian, jew, agnostic, atheist, black, white, muslim, transgendered. Statism and Unionism are destroying our Republic, we should be recruiting ANYONE who stands against it. I submit to you that any of these groups of people can be recruited. It’s folly to alienate them. The biggest mistake our movement has ever made was using Immigration as a wedge issue. Kemp and Reagan knew this. Hispanics are natural Republicans. “We” meaning Rush and Talk Radio prayed on it, ginned you all up and alienated a national voting base for a generation. Can we please stop making these mistakes less we become a bloated version of Sweden.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:31 PM

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Oh, I agree. It was quite good. I was just diggin’ at ya a little.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

gay marriage is inevitable. There is no way that it won’t be.

And, mostly it will be thru the elected officials. Rs better understand that…and look ahead. What will the issues be in 10 or 20 years? Rear guard actions on this front are not helpful

For example, soon enough religious people won’t be able to talk negatively about homosexuality.

r keller on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

I still think that lifestyle is out of the norm but I can love and respect them. But Mike and Bill can’t be “married”.

arnold ziffel on February 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Feel the same way. I know and respect many homosexuals, especially those that have served in the armed forces, but the militants keep me from pulling the lever they way they want. I know I can’t blame them for my own prejudice or visceral reactions – since I believe in personal responsibility, but it is what it is.

if everyone just let it go, and let gay people use the word “marriage” too, there’d be a lot less noise for you to tune out.

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I actually agree with everything you said. I’m not making a case gainst gay rights, or “marriage”, just venting some of the Hotair within.

abobo on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Awful lot of faith you have in science. You don’t ask for that kind of proof in the existence of god now, do you?

ernesto on February 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Ernesto, small molecule drugs like aspirin and HIV cocktails work. Plastics work. LEDs work. Alcohol and food preservatives work. Catalysts work. Ernesto you bitch- Science works.

The Existence of God is not amenable to experimental science and reproducible lab experiments. Proving the existence of God is outside of science. Talk to a philosopher or any clergy or priest instead. A Jesuit would slice and dice you, for sure.

NaCly dog on February 18, 2012 at 11:35 PM

For example, soon enough religious people won’t be able to talk negatively about homosexuality.

r keller on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

You’re implying censorship police like in Europe?

What if homosexuals talk negatively about conservatives?

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Alice Popovici
Make no mistake Maryland is lost. 2 % of the population is Homosexual. Yet through the liberal but duly elected Maryland legislators they have beaten back a majority of Marylanders who are opposed. Governor Christie for now has acted to stave off this agenda. He will acquiesce at a point before the end of his first term. He is not the Conservative he would have you think.
American Power
Naked chicks, And the it goes on to make some valid points. I hear all the time gays don’t enjoy the same rights as straights. Name one. You can’t. What the gay communities is seeking is a special right. A right that is not founded in truth. Fine if our populous is to shallow we are deserving of the lie we are receiving. Oh yes America, our chickens are coming home to roost. We have neglected too many things for too many years. The blame lays with all of us in the so called silent majority. We have been to willing to allow the culture to deteriorate into the worthless puddle it is fast becoming. Reap what you sow. Just remember it takes two heterosexuals to sow.
MaryAnn Spoto
Jazz I couldn’t get your link to work. Hopefully this is the article you quoted from. As I stated above the Governor will relent, ultimately. I read the article and still have no understanding of Christie’s reason for his position against. NJ will end up with gay marriage.
ANGELA DELLI SANTI
Still haven’t figured out what argument Christie uses in taking the position he has. I did however glean the flawed position of it proponents. Civil rights, their argument is under the guise of it being a civil right. Nonsense. They seek a special right. They already enjoy the same civil rights we all enjoy.
Chris Wysocki
Of course Christie is wavering, he is of the rino variety Republican. It will become NJ law before his term is up. Its why I wasn’t able to glean his reasoning for his position. He has none.
Video 1 No sound. At least with the volume of the video up all the way and the volume on my computer up all the way. Probably is again why I am having trouble understanding Christie on this issue.

My personal belief is that marriage is between one man and one women. My belief is not based on a religious dogma or a governmental dogma. It is based on one idea. The idea that marriage was created to protect the offspring of the heterosexual couple breeding. Not the couple but rather the offspring. I also acknowledge that this has been the tradition through all cultures through all of history. Gays are incapable of pro creating. End of story.

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Rush is a dinosaur. Reagan, Buckley and Kemp would puke if they were here to see what he’s become. A professional bullsh**ter. Most of you eat his garbage up like it’s dipped in Gold.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Wrong-o. But thanks for painting with a broad brush. I work while he’s on, so I never hear him. It was a quote by him I read several years back. And on this, I think he’s right.

You’re going to tell me that if this information became available, and people started aborting babies that had a “gay gene” the left wouldn’t go apoplectic? And their only option would be to oppose abortion, unless they tried to stop only those specific abortions, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least. They will stop at nothing.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I say this with great respect. You listen to him everyday (you’re lying) and this Anti Gay thing is a loser. Politically, philosophically and morally.

Rush is paid to stir the pot. Life is not stirring the pot. It’s like chosing to live your life based upon what a used car salesman believes. He has a vested interest in stirring the pot. He does not care about how progressivism has take over this country. He’s only concerned with tweaking your nerve. That’s his job. He’s an entertainer.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Rush is a dinosaur. Reagan, Buckley and Kemp would puke if they were here to see what he’s become. A professional bullsh**ter. Most of you eat his garbage up like it’s dipped in Gold.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Moral standards have not changed since biblical days. The weak among us react to the sociatal influences of the times. Rush is right in that liberalism is the past of least resistance.

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:39 PM

past=path, that is.

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I say this with great respect. You listen to him everyday (you’re lying) and this Anti Gay thing is a loser. Politically, philosophically and morally.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM

You can take that version of “respect” and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. I work Monday-Friday from 6:30 until 3:00. So no, I don’t listen to him, and I’m not lying, and you can kiss my lilly-white a$$.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:41 PM

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Next time, please speak your mind and stop holding back. Tahnk you for your anticipated co-operation.

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platypus on February 18, 2012 at 11:43 PM

This more than anything causes people to not support gay marriage. To many people, these thugs are who they picture as gay. Violent, nasty, verbal and physical assailants who try to silence anyone who dares not worship at their altar.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 10:53 PM

It’s double plus awesome that bigots get to attack the basic dignity of gay people without cost to themselves in you world!

thuja on February 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Dire Straits

QOTD song, obvious to me anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZ33w3B8Hw

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Next time, please speak your mind and stop holding back. Tahnk you for your anticipated co-operation.

/

platypus on February 18, 2012 at 11:43 PM

I know. I know. I need to stop being such a wallflower.
;)

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Rush is paid to stir the pot. Life is not stirring the pot. It’s like chosing to live your life based upon what a used car salesman believes. He has a vested interest in stirring the pot. He does not care about how progressivism has take over this country. He’s only concerned with tweaking your nerve. That’s his job. He’s an entertainer.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM

I am not a talk radio celebrity but I stir the pot daily.
Why???
Because I want to educate people..
Much like Rush does..
I and Rush have a vested interest…
Freedom.

Electrongod on February 18, 2012 at 11:47 PM

I consider myself socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. What aspect of social liberalism is costly?

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Seriously?

Try Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welafre, food stamps, public housing, section 8, abortion subsidizing, free cell phones, subsidized utilities and the list goes on and on.

Social liberalism, in my opinion, has led to more single mothers who often need government assistance, more abortions, which also draw federal dollars, etc.

Basically, social liberalism has led to a lot of government programs which are costly to us all.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM

But I consider these to be fiscal conservative issues — what the government should/shouldn’t be providing under what circumstances. Putting parents in control of what their kids learn about sex in the classroom, not the government. Personal responsibility, etc.

I’m not trying to troll here, but how does accepting gay marriage promote single motherhood? Contraception? Abortion is abhorrent for a lot of reasons (my position on that is complicated, but leans pro-life), but even setting that aside, how does abortion lead to single-motherhood? I think we have a society that doesn’t give a crap about parenting their own kids and giving them values of any kind [not just conservative ones], which is not something that any of these single hot-button social issues right now will fix.

The better bet is to get the government out of marriage altogether. Gays will be happy and religions will be happy.
darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I agree completely. I’m down with that too.

Since you seem to think they are an equivalent lifestyle, go sign up as a volunteer at an AIDS hospice. Hold hands with someone who is dying of an almost always self-inflicted disease.
platypus on February 18, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I would argue that if homosexuality was not considered controversial, or better yet — was considered a normal and acceptable human trait, that these people would have had access to the education, tools, support, and knowledge to avoid a self-destructive lifestyle. Being ostracized by society does not lend to responsible and rational behavior, no matter what it is you are being ostracized for. I don’t think that a confident & smart gay man would be any more likely than a confident & smart straight man to contract AIDS in this day and age. Just as I don’t think a confident and smart man would ever feel the need to throw himself off a bridge in NYC.

So yes, I do think being gay is perfectly valid and acceptable. HIV doesn’t know if the person whose blood it infects is gay or straight.

Violina23 on February 18, 2012 at 11:47 PM

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

:) Moniker notwithstanding, (it was between this and something Grieg) I thought this a good addition to the music scene at HA. You’ll let me know when I’ve linked this one too many times, yes?

egmont on February 18, 2012 at 11:48 PM

It’s double plus awesome that bigots get to attack the basic dignity of gay people without cost to themselves in you world!

thuja on February 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I have no idea what you’re talking about. You can either clarify or take a hike.

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Ideal fit.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

But what does this have to do with Pink Floyd? He wasn’t gay was he?

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

thuja on February 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM

thuja, not trying to be a smartalec here, but why is it I never understand what you are saying?

Bmore on February 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM

gay marriage is inevitable. There is no way that it won’t be.

r keller on February 18, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Ok, fine, wish it wasn’t so, but if you say so…, but I want them out of the fashion biz. Clothes patterned after adolescent male body proportions are not my cuppa :-(

LazyHips on February 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM

But what does this have to do with Pink Floyd? He wasn’t gay was he?

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Only his pink part.

predator on February 18, 2012 at 11:50 PM

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