Gingrich: The other guys backed out of the debate because they’re “afraid”

posted at 2:30 pm on February 18, 2012 by Tina Korbe

It makes sense that Gingrich would say this, but it doesn’t make it true:

Newt Gingrich mocked his Republican rivals for pulling out of a planned debate in Georgia days before the pivotal Super Tuesday primaries, saying the other candidates were “afraid” to debate him.

“The average Georgian is going to say, the average Ohioan is going to say, ‘Let me get this straight. They won’t come here to debate but they want my vote?’” Gingrich said Friday, according to the Associated Press. “Anybody who’s afraid of debating Newt Gingrich isn’t going to be in very good shape to debate Barack Obama.”

Gingrich was campaigning in Peachtree City, the Atlanta exurb he represented for two decades in Congress. Georgia’s 76 delegates are the most of any Super Tuesday state – or primary contest to date – and the former House Speaker has made the state the lynchpin of his effort to once again regain relevancy in the GOP presidential race.

If fear factored into Mitt Romney’s decision to withdraw from the debate at all, it was surely fear of Santorum, who, in the last few debates, hit his opponents on health care and the Wall Street bailouts. In the general election, the eventual GOP nominee will need to be able to present a clear contrast to President Obama on those topics, and Rick Santorum has been effectively making the case that a Mitt Romney nomination takes those issues out of play. Debate fatigue was surely also a factor. Arizona marks the 20th debate on the schedule. Given that, Mitt Romney was merciful to GOP audiences to withdraw. If we haven’t learned what we want to learn of the candidates’ debating skills by now, then shame on us.

It seems safe to say Santorum withdrew because Mitt Romney did and Ron Paul withdrew because Rick Santorum did; they don’t need a debate to weaken Gingrich, who has effectively weakened himself.

Gingrich’s comments also betray an unwarranted amount of arrogance in his own debate performances. Yes, it’s true that the cancellation of the debate hurts him most. In South Carolina, his solid debate performances propelled him to victory. Plus, he needs the free publicity of a debate. But it’s equally valid to say his uneven debate performances in Florida cost him there. There’s no guarantee that Gingrich would have helped himself in the debate in Georgia.


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If you wanna be fatigued, try pumping $4 and $5 gas, you will tire real quick. Newt will get it back to under $2.50 and you dont want to hear it discussed at a debate?

Mr. Sun on February 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM

..said this on another thread the other day: I’d gladly pay $5 per gallon for gas if it meant we could be rid ourselves of that POS POTUS we now have.

The War Planner on February 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Gingrich is right about their cowardice. By backing out they are admitting that they probably can’t hold their own with issues & arguments against Newt – they rather just play the nomination race like a beauty contest. I’m sure that’s what their strategists are advising. Avoid Newt is the operative rule.

Cowards.

Chessplayer on February 18, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Newt thinks he can win the nomination and the general election simply because he is an excellent debater, even though he has an incredible amount of personal and professional baggage (one of the most badly flawed Presidential candidates ever) and the highest unfavorables of any candidate.

I hate to break this to you Newt, but voters’ fascination with your bebating skills are over … as are your days as a viable candidate.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Paul officially withdrew minutes after Romney did; the calls literally came in one after the other. Santorum was sloppy thirds. If I were a betting man, I’d say Romney and Paul coordinated; the question is, why?

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 3:33 PM

But Mitt Romney and Ron Paul haven’t laid a hand on each other.

The Romney-Paul alliance is more than a curious connection.
Romney’s aides are “quietly in touch with Ron Paul,” according to a Republican adviser who is in contact with the Romney campaign and spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss its internal thinking.

“Ron Paul wants a presence at the convention,” the adviser said — and Romney, if he is the nominee, would grant it.

What Paul and his supporters would demand, and what Romney would offer, are subjects of some speculation. One Paul adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity to talk freely, said prime-time speaking slots for Paul and his son Rand, the junior senator from Kentucky, are obvious goals. On the policy front, Ron Paul’s priorities are reforming the Federal Reserve and reducing federal spending. So promises to audit the Fed and to tackle deficit reduction seriously could appease the congressman and his supporters, the adviser said.

According to this article Romney & Paul and their wives are quite friendly. So, who knows?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-paul-and-romney-a-strategic-alliance-between-outsider-and-establishment/2012/01/20/gIQAf8foiQ_story.html

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Chessplayer on February 18, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Why put the ball in the air if you have a comfortable lead over your opponent (as both Santorum and Romney do over Gingrich) and the clock is running out on your opponent?

Besides, how many debates have we had so far? About 19 I believe.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 5:53 PM

I thought Palin slayed Biden in the 2008 debate and the MSM still spun it for Joe-Joe.

BakerAllie on February 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM

You are correct. I read an article that Biden made 15 mistakes, none of which the media would admit.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 5:55 PM

It sounds like to me that you think it’s OK for the Dems to ruin someone’s political future by accusing them of ethics violations even though the charges didn’t stick. And I guess you don’t believe in redemption on personal shortcomings either.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM

SPEWT! is kaput!

M240H on February 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Newt is the only candidate left that is bringing substance to this race, Santy is going to be always known for his stance on social issues and doesn’t do a good job defending it, Mitty is losing it he is now talking about trees and lakes. Newt is being treated so badly by almost all elite conservative pundits, it is a shame to lose this talented man he can be a great president.

evergreenland on February 18, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Lovers of the status quo. They certainly don’t want Newt since he’ll do what he says and they know that, since he did it before.

Santorum has thrown them for a loop and they don’t know what to do, LOL

Go Newt!!

And the Establishment R’s/Morris/Rove keep singing the praises of Romney and keep wondering why those hated Conservatives and others just won’t vote for him!!!! LOL

They chose Romney, let them deal with it.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 6:03 PM

By the way, I would prefer to be addressed as a “MINO” — Mittbot In Name Only.

The War Planner on February 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Now that got me to laugh :)

Bunsin2 on February 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM

“but including this photo to highlight the story smacks of mainstream media editorializing”

This site and the “mainstream media” are in exactly the same business … selling ad views. This site does it by stirring up controversy.

crosspatch on February 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 5:53 PM

No logic please. :)

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Newt thinks he can win the nomination and the general election simply because he is an excellent debater, even though he has an incredible amount of personal and professional baggage (one of the most badly flawed Presidential candidates ever) and the highest unfavorables of any candidate.

I hate to break this to you Newt, but voters’ fascination with your bebating skills are over … as are your days as a viable candidate.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I have no idea whether Newt will be able to rise above Romney’s slime for a third time or not. It doesn’t change the fact that of the four, Newt has the best ideas and plan to turn things around in this country before it’s too late. If one of the other candidates win, we’ll never know if I was right or not. All I know is that now that it seems to be down to Santorum v Romney, the conversation has turned to religion. I did not know this was the most important issue of our day, but if you all think it is, God help us.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:07 PM

..this is funny (even to a “Mittbot” like me). Couldn’t we do something like this for Dems on 6/7 November?

By the way, I would prefer to be addressed as a “MINO” — Mittbot In Name Only.

The War Planner on February 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM

A good idea for November!

Conservative4Ever on February 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

This is a leap year so the Mittbots will have an extra day to whine when Santorum wins MI.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 5:32 PM

And the Obama campaign will have an extra day to celebrate.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Nice batch of quotations there. It’s a win/win for both of them. Romney is no fool. He knows that the base hates him enough to give the not-Romney enough delegates to deny him an automatic first ballot win at the convention. Paul can throw his delegates to Romney in return for the items listed above, and Paul’s delegates just might seal the deal for Romney. I would think that Romney would be in general more acceptable a candidate to Paul than Santorum or Gingrich, but this may have been a simple case of Romney got there first. Certainly Jim DeMint, no Paul or Romney lover, and a very smart man, has been advising folks to ignore Paul at their peril. Oh well, stupid is as stupid does. Go Santorum!

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

It sounds like to me that you think it’s OK for the Dems to ruin someone’s political future by accusing them of ethics violations even though the charges didn’t stick. And I guess you don’t believe in redemption on personal shortcomings either.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 5:58 PM

That’s my problem with going for Santorum because Newt was ruined by the “Death Star” or whatever Allah P. called it. Same thing happened to Palin and all we have to say is, well that’s too bad. Like it’s not going to happen to Santorum by Romney and then the media and the democrats.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Why debate the crazy old poor guy who thinks he’s the wizard of oz?

ray on February 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Why debate the crazy old poor guy who thinks he’s the wizard of oz?

ray on February 18, 2012 at 6:14 PM

You alwasy add so much to any conversation you join./

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I have no idea whether Newt will be able to rise above Romney’s slime for a third time or not. It doesn’t change the fact that of the four, Newt has the best ideas and plan to turn things around in this country before it’s too late.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:07 PM

If you read all these comments, that really is what is missing. I like Rick because of his ___ plan, or Mitt’s my guy because of his plan to ____.

It is only Newt’s people who consistently cite his policy plans as the basis for supporting him.

Strange world we live in no?

MarkCasper on February 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

That’s my problem with going for Santorum because Newt was ruined by the “Death Star” or whatever Allah P. called it. Same thing happened to Palin and all we have to say is, well that’s too bad. Like it’s not going to happen to Santorum by Romney and then the media and the democrats.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

That’s what gets me about the Mitt fans though. They seem to think Romney will somehow get a kinder treatment if he is the nominee or that they won’t go after his religion because he is Mormon.
It’s wishful thinking to think that any of the possible nominee’s would get more of a pass once they are in Obama’s way. This election is going to be ugly and these primaries are only a taste of it.

BakerAllie on February 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

If you read all these comments, that really is what is missing. I like Rick because of his ___ plan, or Mitt’s my guy because of his plan to ____.

It is only Newt’s people who consistently cite his policy plans as the basis for supporting him.

Strange world we live in no?
MarkCasper on February 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

It gets stranger every day.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:29 PM

It’s wishful thinking to think that any of the possible nominee’s would get more of a pass once they are in Obama’s way. This election is going to be ugly and these primaries are only a taste of it.

BakerAllie on February 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

You got that right! If Newt gets bumped off, I will just quit paying any attention until election day, when I will show up and do my duty.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Something to think about. The only thing is if this is what Paul wants to make a deal with, will his supporters go along? Also, will Paul have enough delegates to make a deal with? Right now, Romney has to deal with Santorum and running major negative ads in Michigan & Arizona isn’t going to help him. I think that is just going to turn voters off more than they already are.

Romney in my opinion is damaged. His support of Romneycare and not backing down and now all of the negative ads against everyone. Not just Newt, but Perry too. When you have to lie and distort other Candidates records, that speaks ill of you. Is that the only way he can “win”? He’s brought this upon himself.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Newton Leroy is a smug arrogant self centered jerk with plenty of history that proves that out. 33 years as a DC insider. He has no ideas – anymore than any other candidate. Romney owned him in the last debate so his debating myth is just that.
No, newton, someone was FINALLY smart enough to say ENOUGH! with the liberal media controlling the dialogue – there is no reason for CNN to be allowed to cover for their messiah. Mitt did this primary race a big favor by rejecting any more liberal BS media control.
That’s LEADERSHIP.

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 6:50 PM

That’s what gets me about the Mitt fans though. They seem to think Romney will somehow get a kinder treatment if he is the nominee or that they won’t go after his religion because he is Mormon.
It’s wishful thinking to think that any of the possible nominee’s would get more of a pass once they are in Obama’s way. This election is going to be ugly and these primaries are only a taste of it.

BakerAllie on February 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM

No matter who the R Nominee is they have the bull’s eye on their back. The entire Admin/W.H./MSM and enablers will do whatever is necessary to destroy them. This discussion about who can best “beat” B.O. is nonsense. If one is talking about debating him, it’s a no brainer that it is Newt. If one is talking about the General Election, then it will be the Voters that decide. Notwithstanding, the fraud that will go on as in 2008.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 6:50 PM

If you are a fairly young guy who wants to get dates and to this end you wantn to seem like a cool guy, who are you going to tout for the Republcan nomination?

That’s right, you are going to tout Romney over Santorum.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 6:54 PM

I don’t know how Romney can be said to own anybody in a debate if he has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I don’t know how Romney can be said to own anybody in a debate if he has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Why do people make ridiculous attacks like this? Fine, say Romney is a flip-flopper or whatever. That’s a valid concern. But to imply that Romney couldn’t have possibly have done well at the debate, even though pretty much every non-kool-aid-drinker – no matter who their preferred candidate is – says he beat Gingrich at the Florida debate? The rhetoric from the “Gingrichbots” is just ridiculous. (Or is the “bot” slur reserved for Romney supporters? It seems you guys think so; heck, even us Santorum supporters get called “Romneybots”.)

CanofSand on February 18, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I don’t know how Romney can be said to own anybody in a debate if he has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Once you’ve said he’s a conservative, the rest comes easy- LOL!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM

How can you win a debate if you are not logically consistent and are able to articulate a political philosophy?

I don’t see you can say a man who has been on every side of every issue is good at debates. Romney’s a hesitant, awkward debater if the debate is kept on the issues.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 7:26 PM

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Newton Leroy is the whiniest of the candidates. Tell me that’s your next POTUS? The- “its not fair” candidate ? please- even Sanctitytorum’s religiosity is more pallatebale then DC Insider whiner.

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

C’mon Newt, the real reason is nobody wanted to give another CNN Obama shill or two a chance to go all Stephanopoulos or brain-fried like Diane “purple haze” Sawyer with loaded irrelevant questions.

viking01 on February 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM

I don’t know how Romney can be said to own anybody in a debate if he has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Once you’ve said he’s a conservative, the rest comes easy- LOL!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM

No one can say what Romney’s core is.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Gingrich is right about their cowardice. By backing out they are admitting that they probably can’t hold their own with issues & arguments against Newt – they rather just play the nomination race like a beauty contest. I’m sure that’s what their strategists are advising. Avoid Newt is the operative rule.

Cowards.

Chessplayer

Yep. I think that’s why they skipped the 50 or so other debates that have already happened too, lol. Why, they’re so afraid, they completely lost their minds and forgot to back out of the debate that is scheduled for the week before.

xblade on February 18, 2012 at 7:50 PM

No one can say what Romney’s core is.

SparkPlug on February 18, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Agreed. That includes Romney himself.

Conservative4Ever on February 18, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Too often Mitt’s core seems to be deploying the flying monkeys against anyone whom would dare get in his way at the time.

viking01 on February 18, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Romney in my opinion is damaged…He’s brought this upon himself.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Being that I’m a confirmed Mittbot at this point, I’m a bit more optimistic about Romney’s chances, but I can’t argue with that. You’re right.

The only thing is if this is what Paul wants to make a deal with, will his supporters go along? Also, will Paul have enough delegates to make a deal with?

I think Paul will have a good chunk of delegates at the end of this. And Paul will be able to sell a deal to his people if Romney sweetens the pot enough.

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Newt the Terrible is coming… run away!!!!

lexhamfox on February 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Seriously Tina? Look, You can make all the excuses you want for them. They simply dont want to give Newt a platform to get back into this. No further analysis necessary.

Afterseven on February 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Now Santorum is talking about religion? Walked right into that trap boyscout. POOF! What economy?

Irritable Pundit on February 18, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Newton Leroy is a smug arrogant self centered jerk

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Small people call others names. And support Mitt I guess.

MarkCasper on February 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Small people call others names. And support Mitt I guess.

MarkCasper on February 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

That’s their preferred method of winning others to their side of the debate. I quit responding to it.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Newton Leroy is the whiniest of the candidates. Tell me that’s your next POTUS? The- “its not fair” candidate ? please- even Sanctitytorum’s religiosity is more pallatebale then DC Insider whiner.

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

First Newt was whining because the moderators wouldn’t permit audience participation. Then he was whine when the audience could participate, but weren’t participating on his behalf.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 8:26 PM

If Newt were to tweet, would that be a Neuter? :)

HopeHeFails on February 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I think Paul will have a good chunk of delegates at the end of this. And Paul will be able to sell a deal to his people if Romney sweetens the pot enough.

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I was out and about and came across this. Sort of interesting and adds to our discussion. One of the comments:

Its noticeable. In Iowa, they double teamed Newt with negative ads. Paul never says anything negative about Romney. Next up, probably double teaming Santorum. What has Romney promised Mr. Paul? Sec. of Treasury or Fed Chair?

From the article: If Paul drops out–which his campaign says publicly isn’t going to happen, but you never know–would he throw his support to Romney?

The bigger question is, if Paul did ask his supporters to vote Romney, would they? Knowing Paul supporters as I do, having debated–if you can call it that–them on a regular basis for years, I seriously doubt they would.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/02/18/paul-and-romney-friends-behind-the-campaign-scenes/

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Small people call others names. And support Mitt I guess.

MarkCasper on February 18, 2012 at 8:19 PM

That’s their preferred method of winning others to their side of the debate. I quit responding to it.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I usually consider the source of childish remarks:-)

Newt/West Go forth and conquer!!!!

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Gingrich has all but disappeared without the debates. Why would Romney, Paul or even the Bible-thumping Santorum throw him a lifeline? I do miss seeing Callista’s Sacred Golden Helmet, though.

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

If Newt were to tweet, would that be a Neuter? :)

HopeHeFails on February 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I tried not to laugh. Really, I did.

WhatNot on February 18, 2012 at 8:51 PM

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

First Newt was whining because the moderators wouldn’t permit audience participation. Then he was whine when the audience could participate, but weren’t participating on his behalf.

bw222 on February 18, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Did you see Mitt on Hannity whining about Santo.’s Rombo ad, he could not believe how negative was that ad, so one ad and he is up in arms while he carpet bombed Newt so far.

evergreenland on February 18, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Gingrich is right about their cowardice. By backing out they are admitting that they probably can’t hold their own with issues & arguments against Newt – they rather just play the nomination race like a beauty contest. I’m sure that’s what their strategists are advising. Avoid Newt is the operative rule.

Cowards.

Chessplayer on February 18, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Nonsense. It’s smart strategy. If your opponent in a knife fight suddenly dropped his knife, would you stop and pick it up for him?

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 8:55 PM

I do miss seeing Callista’s Sacred Golden Helmet, though.

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Have any of Newt’s supporters made fun of any of the other candidates? No.
That is why I will never vote for Mitt b/c of his policy of destroy and burn any one in his way to coronation, and the way his supporters treated others .And Santorum’s supporters aren’t any better, If they are Bible believing Christians , they should reflect that in every comment they make.

evergreenland on February 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Romney’s core convictions are family, faith and country. You can choose to believe he is lying, or you can FAIRLY look at the way he has lived his life.

Fine by me if you want to say the same about Santorum, but let’s stop this garbage about Mitt “not having any core convictions.”
It’s particularly rich coming from the Newtbots, considering his multiple wives and religions. Newt’s only core conviction is Newt.

Of course the people who hate Romney refuse to judge him fairly. He accepted a minimal amount of money to turn around the Olympics, and to serve as governor of MA.

Meanwhile, Ricky was the earmark king, was named by the Committee for Responsiblity and Ethics in Washington as one of the three most corrupt senators in 2006, and sold his DC experience to a health services company for a pretty penny after he got his arse handed to him by Casey Jr.

Preparing for debates takes up a lot of time that could be spent campaigning. There have been plenty of debates. Newt’s just mad because the debates are the only arrow left in his quiver. He thinks he’s The Debate Master. Zing the MSM with a couple of snappy one-liners, and presto! He’s back on top.

Santorum did the same thing with Charlie Rose the other day. It’s getting old. The only dimwits still impressed with this zap-the-media schtick are rightwing Republicans.

And btw, Newt can whine all he wants about Romney’s attacks, but Mitt didn’t force him to give his idiotic moonman speech, or that disastrous press conference after the Nevada caucuses.

Newt is his own worst enemy, and a gazillion debates aren’t going to improve his favorability ratings.

Meredith on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Nice article, thank you. I’ll have to say, after having watched the Paulbots being described incessantly as mindless, nutty, robotic cultists by every blogger, pundit, and commenter in sight, I find it amusing that now, when it looks like they could benefit Romney, they are suddenly being described as independent-minded individualists who will follow their own counsel. With all due respect, if they are cultists, they will do as the good doctor orders and drink the kool-aid; if they are not, they will listen to what the good doctor has to say, and make a rational decision. Either way, I think Romney wins. Most of the Paulbots I know could stomach Romney, but loathe Gingrich, Santorum and, of course, Obama. It’s really no different from the situation where folks can handle either Gingrich or Santorum, but gag over the other two.

Talk about strange, here in Virginia (which, btw, will probably go for Obama again if Santorum is the nominee, as will NC), where Romney and Paul are the only two guys on the ballot, Newt’s SuperPac, Winning Our Future, is, for no apparent rational reason, still running ads and spending money like water. Any ideas on that?

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Have any of Newt’s supporters made fun of any of the other candidates? No.
That is why I will never vote for Mitt b/c of his policy of destroy and burn any one in his way to coronation, and the way his supporters treated others .And Santorum’s supporters aren’t any better, If they are Bible believing Christians , they should reflect that in every comment they make.

evergreenland on February 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Just being realistic. Callista’s Sacred Golden Helmet alone makes Newt unelectable in the general. The media would destroy her over that hair, especially Saturday Night Live and the two morons on Comedy Central.

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Just being realistic. Callista’s Sacred Golden Helmet alone makes Newt unelectable in the general. The media would destroy her over that hair, especially Saturday Night Live and the two morons on Comedy Central.

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM

And let us be honest, she is the only candidate’s wife who was sleeping with the candidate when he was married to another women. Talk about good values

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Newt’s SuperPac, Winning Our Future, is, for no apparent rational reason, still running ads and spending money like water. Any ideas on that?

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Winning Our Future has made significant buys on nationally syndicated shows, such as Limbaugh and Hannity. If you’re hearing the ads on those shows, that’s why. They’re running in NY and NJ all the time too- pretty much exclusively anti-Romney ads.

Priscilla on February 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Winning Our Future has made significant buys on nationally syndicated shows, such as Limbaugh and Hannity. If you’re hearing the ads on those shows, that’s why.

Priscilla on February 18, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Thank you, that makes sense.

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Santorum did the same thing with Charlie Rose the other day. It’s getting old. The only dimwits still impressed with this zap-the-media schtick are rightwing Republicans.

And btw, Newt can whine all he wants about Romney’s attacks, but Mitt didn’t force him to give his idiotic moonman speech, or that disastrous press conference after the Nevada caucuses.

Newt is his own worst enemy, and a gazillion debates aren’t going to improve his favorability ratings.

Meredith on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

The only way for average (not very political) people to realize what the media is doing is to call them out on it. The only people it is getting old with are people who don’t have the guts to do it. Or maybe people who are stupid enough to believe that if you’re nice to them they’ll be nice to you.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

John and Cindy McCain had the same history as Newt and Calista. I don’t remember it being an issue when he ran for president.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Gingrich has all but disappeared without the debates. Why would Romney, Paul or even the Bible-thumping Santorum throw him a lifeline? I do miss seeing Callista’s Sacred Golden Helmet, though.

jan3 on February 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Isn’t there a Romney v Santorum food fight you’re missing?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:35 PM

And let us be honest, she is the only candidate’s wife who was sleeping with the candidate when he was married to another women. Talk about good values

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Apparently, good values are in the eye of the beholder. I find that peoples’ personal lives that have no affect on me or the country are not as important as someone who thinks he can slime all his opposition and outlast everyone in the race because he’s done nothing for the past five years but raise money to run for President. I find his actions in this primary to be detestable.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

John and Cindy did not have a six year affair while John was married. Come on be serious.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Meanwhile, Ricky was the earmark king, was named by the Committee for Responsiblity and Ethics in Washington as one of the three most corrupt senators in 2006,

Meredith on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I wonder why you stopped following the “Committee for Responsiblity and Ethics in Washington” in 2006. Their list of Top Scandals in 2011 mentions the Mitt Romney super PAC Retore our Future. CREW seems much more concerned about Republicans and throw in only a minimum number of Democrats (Rep. Weiner) that have already been thrown under the bus.

Seems like a Soros front.

WhatNot on February 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM

John and Cindy McCain had the same history as Newt and Calista. I don’t remember it being an issue when he ran for president.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:33 PM

In my opinion, it is also harder for the democrats to use with the history in their party- Clinton, Kennedy, Johnson, probably Obama, etc. I guess we ought to compare Romney to Carter. If your only claim to fame is marital fidelity, we can see how well that worked out.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM

John and Cindy did not have a six year affair while John was married. Come on be serious.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM

You know that how? And what the heck difference does it make?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Yea it was awful of Reagan when he lost to Ford in 1976 to take all that time and prepare his 1980 run.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:42 PM

McCain’s first wife was disfigured in a car accident. He started having an affair with Cindy while still married to his wife. He divorced his wife and married Cindy.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Watch.

Newt’s going to rise again. Hard to believe, but it’s true.

Wow.

Key West Reader on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

“The divorce settlement accorded Carol McCain full custody of their three children, alimony, child support including college tuition, houses in Virginia and Florida, and lifelong financial support for her ongoing medical treatments resulting from the 1969 automobile accident.”
They divorced in 1980.
This makes Gingrich and Calista’s behavior fine, how?

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Yea it was awful of Reagan when he lost to Ford in 1976 to take all that time and prepare his 1980 run.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Reagan didn’t slime everyone like your guy is doing. Way to try to change the subject.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

McCain’s first wife was disfigured in a car accident. He started having an affair with Cindy while still married to his wife. He divorced his wife and married Cindy.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 9:49 PM

What the H..l is this the National Enquirer? Gingrich is the most experienced and competent of the bunch. The rest is irrelevant.

kenny on February 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Watch.

Newt’s going to rise again. Hard to believe, but it’s true.

Wow.

Key West Reader on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I, for one, am not ready to count him out yet!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

“The divorce settlement accorded Carol McCain full custody of their three children, alimony, child support including college tuition, houses in Virginia and Florida, and lifelong financial support for her ongoing medical treatments resulting from the 1969 automobile accident.”
They divorced in 1980.
This makes Gingrich and Calista’s behavior fine, how?

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

She didn’t say it was fine. No one says it’s fine. It is IRRELEVANT. It is used as a club to beat someone you don’t like.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:58PM

You said that Calista was a bad candidate’s wife because they had an affair while he was married. John and Cindy also had an affair when he was still married. Same thing. The settlements of the divorces do not change the fact that both women had affairs with married men.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

It’s quite obvious why Santorum pulled out. It is the only acceptable form of contraceptive for a Catholic!

Archivarix on February 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

What the H..l is this the National Enquirer? Gingrich is the most experienced and competent of the bunch. The rest is irrelevant.

kenny on February 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM

That was her point. It wasn’t an issue for McCain, but now it’s the best reason in the world to disqualify Newt. Hypocrisy.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

This person is trying to pretend it is relevant.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

And Night Owl is right. I do not think their behavior is appropriate in any way. But it is in the past just as McCain and Cindy’s was in the past. If it was not an issue for the McCains then why for the Gingrichs?

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

you said

he’s done nothing for the past five years but raise money to run for President.

I did not change the subject. As for tactics, I don’t like it but this is what has become of our system. Of course, I bet you don’t think Romney has been slimed too.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:06 PM

It’s quite obvious why Santorum pulled out. It is the only acceptable form of contraceptive for a Catholic!

Archivarix on February 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM

That is one of the funniest things I’ve read today! LOL

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:06 PM

This person is trying to pretend it is relevant.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Yea, Newt does not have a problem with the women’s vote

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:08 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10PM

I support Newt. I’m just arguing with tbrickert about Calista. I don’t think this issue is relevant.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:09 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I said it before and I’ll say it again. Every candidate in this race has made missteps. It would be hard to grade, but I would say that in the slime contest, Romney is the big winner. Possibly because no one else had as much money, agreed. I don’t think this is the basis for deciding who will do what needs to be done. I believe that Newt is the only one of the remaining four who has a plan that will turn things around before it’s too late. I am going to say something that I probably shouldn’t say. You think Newt is an a$$hole? Sometimes it takes one to beat one. I think he will take the fight to Obama more than the others. My opinion. You can do what you want to do, but I don’t see how it does any good to keep being so negative about anyone who isn’t your candidate. One of these people is going to end up as the nominee.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I was trying not to bring up the fact that Callista slept in the wife’s bed. There is a difference. And don’t forget Newt married Two mistresses.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Yea, Newt does not have a problem with the women’s vote

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:08 PM

I wish there was some way to find out the percentage of fidelity among those of you who are throwing that stone.

Romney has problems with independents and conservative republicans.

Santorum has a problem with non social conservatives, women, etc.

What’s your point?

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Ok, good enough. But this idiocy about morality is going to cause us to lose the only candidate (Newt) that will clean house and set in place some solutions. Those opposed to him know that it won’t be business as usual with him. That is why the RINOs and Dems are working so hard against him, using bogus morality and character themes. None of the appearances that this observer has witnessed of Gingrich match whiny, angry Newt, more like fighter Newt. Romney is a slimer and Santy is a micromanaging control freak, but overall nice guy. Santy would however be a small detail man, inclined to count the pencils in the desk drawers of WH staff.

kenny on February 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Fair enough. And I say Newt does not have the temperment to be President. His Nevada presser is a fine example. I also don’t trust him. But we agree all sides are throwing mud and none of them will throw as much as Obama.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/18/us-usa-campaign-santorum-idUSTRE81H0M220120218

Santorum is questioning Obama’s ideology. I love this.

It’s going on the OFFENSE against someone that most of us believe is a Socialist (at best). He’s MAKING OBAMA the issue.

Sadly, he’s doing the job the whoredog mainstream media won’t do.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Watch.

Newt’s going to rise again. Hard to believe, but it’s true.

Wow.

Key West Reader on February 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM

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Yeah right blah blah blah- Newt is done with his pipe dream – BTW- Whats in it for Adelson ? This has become a national joke. And you have Foster Friess and the Kochs pulling hard for Santorum.
And American voters won’t think republicans are for sale and can be bought ? Good luck with that.

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Ok, good enough. But this idiocy about morality is going to cause us to lose the only candidate (Newt) that will clean house and set in place some solutions. Those opposed to him know that it won’t be business as usual with him. That is why the RINOs and Dems are working so hard against him, using bogus morality and character themes. None of the appearances that this observer has witnessed of Gingrich match whiny, angry Newt, more like fighter Newt. Romney is a slimer and Santy is a micromanaging control freak, but overall nice guy. Santy would however be a small detail man, inclined to count the pencils in the desk drawers of WH staff.

kenny on February 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Hey, I’m doing what I can here from my keyboard! LOL It’s not over yet!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM

You are saying there are degrees of adultery. Silly argument.

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Rose on February 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

you said:

McCain’s first wife was disfigured in a car accident.

Implying that had something to do with the affair. I was showing it did not. I can also give you quotes from the wife saying how it was his time as a prisoner that changed things. There is a difference between the two. Understand I’m not a McCain fan. I blame him for the current state of out campaigns.(McCain-Fiengold)

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:30 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/18/us-usa-campaign-santorum-idUSTRE81H0M220120218

Santorum is questioning Obama’s ideology. I love this.

It’s going on the OFFENSE against someone that most of us believe is a Socialist (at best). He’s MAKING OBAMA the issue.

Sadly, he’s doing the job the whoredog mainstream media won’t do.

PappyD61 on February 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Heh. Meredith and Priscilla (sp) are not going to like that at all!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Fair enough. And I say Newt does not have the temperment to be President. His Nevada presser is a fine example. I also don’t trust him. But we agree all sides are throwing mud and none of them will throw as much as Obama.

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM

LOL! You are making me want to go find the video I heard about where Romney is talking about the height of trees or something!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Reagan didn’t slime everyone like your guy is doing. Way to try to change the subject.

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM

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Grow some already. Sliming would be Romney going after Newton’s ability to keep a contract with a wife. Sliming would be questioning Santorum’s wife’s Abortionist boyfriend pecadillo. Romney never did any of that. This straw man BS that Romney has some how “slimed” everyone and these other candidates are innocent Nancy’s is BS. The good ABR candidates have gone after Romney’s gardner and even tried to smear Romney with the Kosher Jewish here in FL. Cry me a river- the problem you ABRs have with any this neg BS is because your guy(s) look worse when the gloves come off. Or you wouldn’t be whining about it.

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Mr. Arkadin on February 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I know those that support Paul are described as “nutty” and so forth. We have a few on HA that I wouldn’t describe as such tho.
I myself find much to be admired and love his sense of humor:-) I think if he would suggest they vote for anyone else, you would have perhaps some that would not. It would depend on his explanation of asking I would think.

Everyone has their favorite and for different reasons. I discount the bots of all stripes, as they have an agenda. I prefer to compare records, take into account the negatives, discount the frivolous, consider experience and knowledge. Then who are their friends and enemies and why are they either one. Researching is important too; what others are saying and why and do they have an agenda also. Sort of complicated and takes me some time:-)

Too bad how VA turned out. I would imagine Romney wins there, but if the voters don’t like that they only have 2 choices, they may rebel:-)

I would hope that whichever Candidate is the Nominee, all close ranks and vote for that person.

Will check and see what I can find on Newt & the ads. I know he has new funds. Wonder where he is runnings ads. I haven’t heard any radio ads lately on talk radio. I think Newt does better with personal appearances even tho I know ads are necessary. Hopefully, if he’s running ads, they are positive and getting his message out.

Did you see that video from 1994 when he was Speaker? I’d post it again, but I’ve got a phone call waiting on me at the moment:-)

It’s going to be interesting.

bluefox on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Just for you:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donny-deutsch-pokes-fun-at-romney-for-saying-michigan-trees-are-the-perfect-height/

tbrickert on February 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM

LOL! You are making me want to go find the video I heard about where Romney is talking about the height of trees or something!

Night Owl on February 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM

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no, just go and find the video where someone puts a semi-Automatic weapon in Rombo’s hands. That will suffice. /gabby

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Sliming would be Romney

FlaMurph on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Yep

kenny on February 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM

They are all debating on CNN this week on February 22. It’s the next CNN debate (one week later on March 1) that is cancelled.

I can see why it will be repetitive, gives CNN the chance to torpedo our candidates and gets in the way of campaigning in all the Super Tuesday states.

There is another debate scheduled for after Super Tuesday.

Elisa on February 18, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I wonder if Santorum and Newt will have ashes on their foreheads at Wednesday’s debate. I can just hear the screams from the left about Rick being too religious. If he takes a shower first and washes them away, will we hear criticism for that too?

Elisa on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM

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