ABC: “Top” GOP Senator says if Mitt can’t win Michigan …

posted at 10:30 am on February 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Silly me; I thought that when one candidate in a primary race lost a state, it meant that another candidate was stronger.  Not so, according to an unnamed but “prominent” Republican Senator contacted by ABC’s Jonathan Karl.  If Romney can’t win, it’s time to call in … Jeb Bush?

“If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate,” said the senator, who has not endorsed anyone and requested anonymity.

The senator believes Romney will ultimately win in Michigan but says he will publicly call for the party to find a new candidate if he does not.

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said.  Who?  “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

The Secret Senator believes that Rick Santorum would lose 35 states in a general election, and apparently thinks so little of Newt Gingrich’s chances that he doesn’t even raise him as an alternative.  No, it would be better to call the younger Bush and skip over the rest of the primaries, apparently, since it would be almost impossible at this point for a new candidate to qualify on enough ballots to win a majority of the delegates.

I have nothing but respect for Jeb Bush, but … really?  I recall a point in the race where people objected to Rick Perry because Barack Obama and the Democrats would paint him as a second coming of George W. Bush.  Perry’s defenders on that score — and I was one of them — never once offered an argument that it would be just great to have a return of an Obama vs Bush debate in 2012; we rejected the idea that Perry somehow equaled a Bush in terms of policy or temperament.

Jeb Bush did a terrific job as governor of Florida and is very well regarded in the state, but he’s still a Bush, and his elevation to the nomination without having bothered to enter the race would look like the ultimate establishment act.  Needless to say, the grassroots Tea Party movement doesn’t remember either President Bush with particular fondness, the first on the reneging of his pledge not to raise taxes, and the second on his big-spending “compassionate conservatism” platform.   A move to install Jeb Bush at the top of the ticket without having subjected himself to the vetting and the tough work of earning the votes in the field would be a disaster for the Republican Party, especially if that push came entirely at the convention.  Winning 15 states at that point might be an optimistic outcome.

How about this for an idea: let’s hold a primary among those candidates who had the courage to put themselves on the line for almost a year, and stop worrying about those who sat on the sidelines.  Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.


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Last name “Bush.” Sorry, Jeb.

wte9 on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

My prediction is that if Secret Senator can’t see how idiotic it would be to give Obama a free pass on the “failed policies of the past / return to the Bush years,” I somehow doubt any of his prognostications should concern us.

BKennedy on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

No one named Bush is going to run against the Cult Of Personality and expect to win. It would be feeding the left’s base red meat, and it would remind all those independents who voted for the Not George W Bush candidate in 2008, why they voted for the not George W Bush candidate in 2008.

Dr Evil on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

The more the establishment goes nuts against Santorum, and for Romney, the more I’m persuaded Santorum is the right man.

18-1 on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

“If Romney cannot win Michigan, we need a new candidate,” said the senator, who has not endorsed anyone and requested anonymity.

The senator believes Romney will ultimately win in Michigan but says he will publicly call for the party to find a new candidate if he does not.

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said. Who? “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

He will call for it “publicly, but anonymously”.

Real profile in courage. Then again, we are talking about a Senator.

Bitter Clinger on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Jeb will have to wait his turn just like Mitt did. /s

Kaffa on February 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM

The Secret Senator

And ABC…Bomb throwers both.

rich801 on February 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Bitter Clinger on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Should have written that: He will call for it “publicly” ….. but anonymously.

Bitter Clinger on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.

Very nice, Edward. Very nice, indeed.

ted c on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

according to an unnamed but “prominent” Coward.

By the way No, No and No.

FLconservative on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

I suppose this is an “Establishment” wish ,just like Romney was ?

Sandybourne on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Jeb Bush ….. really? Did anyone who thinks Jeb did a great job live in florida???

I remember after Christ was elected. It completely slipped my mind Jebby had been replaced. There some report on the news that the gov had finally done something smart. I was thinking did Jeb finally grow a brain?… then i remembered Christ was governor.

aniptofar on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

How about this for an idea: let’s hold a primary among those candidates who had the courage to put themselves on the line for almost a year, and stop worrying about those who sat on the sidelines. Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.

Because their “Campaigns” are disappointing.

How about we concentrate on the Senate and House seats, and get more fiscal conservatives elected.

Dr Evil on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

The poor, poor Republican Establishment.

They underestimated average American Conservatives.

Sho’ ’nuff hate it for ‘em./

kingsjester on February 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

I like Jeb. Voted for him while I still lived in Florida.

However, I’d vote against him for President out of general principle. No “royal families” in the White House. Two Adamses and Two Bushes is enough. I was against a second Kennedy and against a second Clinton.

AngusMc on February 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Another unnamed “prominent” Republican Senator just emailed me to say that the unnamed “prominent” Republican Senator quoted by Jonathan Karl is padding his resume and is really “prominent-lite”.

SlaveDog on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

At least Jeb Bush qualifies as a “Not Romney.”

Emperor Norton on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said. Who? “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

Heh. The establishment in panic. What makes them think Jeb would do any better?

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

doesn’t have to be Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney, but it CAN’T be Santorum.

Craig Nelson on February 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM

1) W current popularity is now break even, as per PPP, so his image has improved quite a bit; and Jeb would be a great President based on his FL track record. BTW FL would not be a toss up state then. 2) There should be a second look at Paul Ryan.

IR-MN on February 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Uh cant this guy see the reason Romney is down? The base doesnt want the establishment candidate with left tendencies?? So put another establishment guy in there? Do any of these politicians realize they work for us???

ldbgcoleman on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Don’t know… I’m getting a Grahamnesty vibe off of this.

Gingotts on February 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

smells like desperation…..

we need to axe a few of these GOP establishment types. too much dead wood at the top. And I mean that in a metaphorical sense of course.

ted c on February 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Gingotts bite yo’ damned tongue!!

ted c on February 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM

How about this for an idea: let’s hold a primary among those candidates who had the courage to put themselves on the line for almost a year, and stop worrying about those who sat on the sidelines.

Some of those who “sat on the sidelines” — well, one in particular — did so after poll after poll after poll was quoted showing that they should continue to sit on the sidelines because of universal disdain and they’re less popular than Hitler and they’d have no chance in hell and because the people already in the race were so darned good. Now…

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

ted c

Prune.

maverick muse on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Please, no more Bush!!! Jeb will guarantee the re-election of Obama! Americans are Bushed out.

donyalola on February 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

THEY really think THEY pick OUR candidate, don’t they ????

stenwin77 on February 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Maybe it’s a threat: Vote for Romney in Michigan or…we’re gonna give you Jeb!

Rational Thought on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said. Who? “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

Heh. The establishment in panic. What makes them think Jeb would do any better?

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

They are casting about in time of distress and running Jeb Bush’s name up the flag pole to see if anyone will salute it.

The smartest guys in the room out smarted themselves, trying to rig the nomination for Romney. They tried to shove his campaign down conservative republican’s throats….now it’s like the establishment “Smartest Guys In The Room” think, well if the base won’t swallow Romney what can we get them to swallow.

“Today, we sometimes hear that democracy stands in the way of economic progress,” he said.

Does it make a difference if a progressive runs on the R or D brand? People forget who pre-socialized the economy for Obama?

Dr Evil on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I’m trying to think of a Republican Senator who would be considered prominent by ABC and whose advise I would trust. No success so far.

SlaveDog on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Stay out the Bushes! Third party is looking more and more like a possibility if they try to pull this garbage.

Fallon on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

McCain still has anger issues with Mitt.

meci on February 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I really don’t care who we nominate. Obama should be unelectable. What is he going to say?

“Vote for me and I’ll do the exact opposite of what I’ve been doing for 4 years!” Obama-2012.

Mord on February 18, 2012 at 10:45 AM

This is an amazingly weak field of candidates. Can anyone save us? A secular, measured libertarian? Paul Ryan, but is he too young and non charismatic?

Craig Nelson on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Gotta love some gutless clown who can pop off at the mouth but won’t put his name to it.

I bet this clown thought Reagan couldn’t win either.

LevinFan on February 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Jeb Bush did a terrific job as governor of Florida and is very well regarded in the state….

I think that’s debatable. Yeah, he’s pretty well regarded among Republicans, but that’s about it.

And I agree that anyone who didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to go through the primary process shouldn’t get a free pass.

Syzygy on February 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM

The more the establishment goes nuts against Santorum, and for Romney, the more I’m persuaded Santorum is the right man.

18-1 on February 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Kinda seems that way doesn’t it.

wi farmgirl on February 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Also, first name “Jeb.” Running against the first black president? Come on. And with the last name Bush. Such a bad name for 2012.

wte9 on February 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM

a Grahamnesty vibe off of this.

GD Marxist corrupt Party Leadership can’t get enough for themselves. They’re never satisfied with stealing the shirt off your back in the cold of winter. Not even after skinning you alive given the economic implosion culminating the GWB/Paulson administration of corruption, complete with CYA with autonomy Sec/Treasury executive order. Given Bush precedences, how’s that Dollar value and how are those interventionist wars faring? Benefiting the House of Saud, as ever, Wahhabi or Bust.

maverick muse on February 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM

my money is on Lindsey Graham

commodore on February 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Nonsense!

jeanie on February 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM

A move to install Jeb Bush at the top of the ticket without having subjected himself to the vetting and the tough work of earning the votes in the field would be a disaster for the Republican Party, especially if that push came entirely at the convention.

A move to install Sarah Palin at the top of the ticket without having subjected herself to the vetting and the tough work of earning the votes in the field . . .Who’s with me?

Emperor Norton on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I thought Romney was “Mr. Inevitable”?

kingsjester on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Just another attempt by the establishment to scare people into voting for Romney. They are so predictable that it is almost funny.

BTW, this just helps Rick. While some of the fools on here try to paint Santorum as a moderate, the establishment knows that he is an “evil conservative” and in their warped view, conservatives can’t win in the general.

Go Rick!

fight like a girl on February 18, 2012 at 10:52 AM

I’m sensing some frustration, if not, anger, in that last paragraph. How ’bout this. Let those of us absolutely disgusted with the current line-up fantasize about contested/brokered conventions and conservative candidates on white horses before we have to inevitably hold our nose, roll our eyes and somehow drag our depressed a$$es to the voting booth to pull the lever for Candidate Next-In-Line.

Huh. Sensing some frustration, if not, anger, in this post as well.

Dongemaharu on February 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Ed snarks:
Silly me; I thought that when one candidate in a primary race lost a state, it meant that another candidate was stronger.

IMHO, this is the closest Ed’s gotten to letting his backing for Santorum color his commentary. Who knows what a few weeks will bring. Will he become as rabid as many of the pro-Newt or pro-Mitt commenters here? Stay tuned.

Last name “Bush.” Sorry, Jeb.

wte9 on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

This. Besides, the vetting and the testing that comes from running a national campaign are huge. Only Sarah has been successfully vetted and withstood the national scrutiny, and she ain’t running. We can’t just pop somebody in there and hope he holds up. It’s gotta be Mitt v Santorum, and I won’t believe Santorum is Presidential material.

Paul-Cincy on February 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.

The deus ex machina came early on in the form of Gallup and the RCP average and the so-called “intelligentsia”. Get rid of THAT deus ex machina, and we might get somewhere eventually.

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 10:55 AM

NO MORE BUSHES!
NO MORE BUSHES!
WE ARE NOT A MONARCHY!
NO MORE BUSHES!

MAC1000 on February 18, 2012 at 10:55 AM

The Washington GOP establishment isn’t trying to win the Presidency anyway. They want their majorities and their committee chairmanships, but they care not about the Presidency nor the electorate in this country. I am convinced of that.

Right Mover on February 18, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Ed,

Jeb Bush, aside from the “Bush” problem would be labeled a RINO by the usual suspects. He’s even more reserved than Romney, style wise.

Same with Mitch Daniels or Thune. They’ll all be called RINOS. Mark Levin has all but called Chris Christie a Liberal. So same for him.

I think John Ziegler pretty much nailed the real problem with this cycle earlier this week.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Dear “unnamed but prominent Republican Senator”, if you’ve got something worth us listening to, man-up and attach your name to it.

The one thing we can all be sure of, is if the lady-not-to-be-named has something to say, she won’t hide behind anonymity. She’ll step forward and call a spade a spade.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

another “News” report about how messed up the Republican party is….Yawn.

Its as if the press is saying “Well, they all suck – so, you have no choice but to become socialists because of it”.

Anyone see the “Report” at US News?:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2012/02/17/poll-republicans-on-verge-of-political-death

They were able to write the article above due to “help” from a Democrat “Research” firm. Anyone surprised to see any of these conclusions?

famous amos on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

They really should get over themselves.

Naturally Curly on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Last name “Bush.” Sorry, Jeb.

wte9 on February 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Tru dat…unfortunately. He would be a better nominee than the current crop for sure. Most GOPers don’t want to put another Bush in the White House. And forget about the general election.

JetBoy on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

The Secret Senator believes that Rick Santorum would lose 35 states in a general election,

What’s the over/under on that.

Because I’m willing to bet he’d lose more.

Vyce on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

If Herr mittens doesn’t win Michigan, Sarah HAS to be drafted, there is NO way another Bush will win the White House!

angrymike on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

I’m getting a Grahamnesty vibe off of this.

Mitch McConnell? He strikes me as just courageous enough to leave his name off a threat like this.

Right Mover on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

This is an amazingly weak field of candidates. Can anyone save us?

Not amazing to see that fools still demand a false Messiah to save us from personal responsibility.

I’ll take heart when voters actually RESEARCH ORIGINAL SOURCES rather than perpetuate bigotry by repeating false information.

Stick with constitutional integrity. All else fails.

maverick muse on February 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

I think John Ziegler pretty much nailed the real problem with this cycle earlier this week.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM

If you must resort to using Ziegler as an authority, you’ve already lost your argument.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

“We’d get killed,” the senator said if Romney manages to win the nomination after he failed to win the state in which he grew up.

This is such a strange theory, and I just don’t understand it. He seems to be saying that if Romney lost Michigan, then he could still win the nomination. However, he wouldn’t have a shot in the general election. I just don’t see how you can conclude that from the Michigan primary.

ghostwriter on February 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

No.

Pragmatic choice: Romney
Dream choice: Sarah!

No other.

thebrokenrattle on February 18, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Bush? Meh. Draft Scott Walker.

Kataklysmic on February 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Sarah HAS to be drafted, there is NO way another Bush will win the White House!

Rather, there’s no way in hell that any Bush would run with Palin.

maverick muse on February 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM

The Secret Senator believes that Rick Santorum would lose 35 states in a general election,

What’s the over/under on that.

Because I’m willing to bet he’d lose more.

Vyce on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

And what makes you think Romney — who’s springing leaks faster than the ‘bots can plug them — can do any better?

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM

A move to install Sarah Palin at the top of the ticket without having subjected herself to the vetting and the tough work of earning the votes in the field . . .Who’s with me?

Emperor Norton on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM

The move to install Bush would be by the machine. The move to install Palin would be by the people.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM

However, he wouldn’t have a shot in the general election. I just don’t see how you can conclude that from the Michigan primary.

ghostwriter on February 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Because in all likelihood Romney would lose both Michigan and Ohio in the general. Tell me again how Romney wins with McCain’s numbers from 2008.

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM

How about this for an idea: let’s hold a primary among those candidates who had the courage to put themselves on the line for almost a year, and stop worrying about those who sat on the sidelines. Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.

Intellectually, I agree. But, on the emotional, enthusiasm level? All three of the remaining serious* candidates leaves me “meh.” Both Romney and Santorum have serious flaws, in my estimation, and it’s going to be hard to make a case to vote for either man, rather than falling back on “Well, they’d be better than Obama.”

I’m concentrating on Congress.

irishspy on February 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Jeb Bush is married to a latina. What do you think his immigration policy is? Hint, it is not conservative.

jb34461 on February 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Seriously, not another Bush. Y’all keep talking about electability, well, there’s a name that’s unelectable these days.

stukinIL4now on February 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Ed snarks:
Silly me; I thought that when one candidate in a primary race lost a state, it meant that another candidate was stronger.

Why is this snark? The RINO’s want Romney because they think only a mushy moderate can win even though history proves the exact opposite. They don’t care who the people want.

They fear Santorum because he has an actual chance of wresting the nomination from their chosen RINO and Rick isn’t going to go along to get along.

BTW, the other day I heard DeMint talk very highly of Santorum. He threw just a tidbit of compliments to Newt and Mitt. His endorsement could be a game changer.

fight like a girl on February 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM

I think John Ziegler pretty much nailed the real problem with this cycle earlier this week.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM
If you must resort to using Ziegler as an authority, you’ve already lost your argument.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Why? People pretty much regurgitate Levin or Rush’s opinions in here as some kind of authorities and they’re not only wrong most of the time, they’ve led the effort to dampen enthusiasm in Romney. Rush is the one who elevated Trump and Cain who helped make this cycle a joke. Why are they’re opinions not only solid gold in here but pawned off by other people as their own. And you just easily dismiss Ziegler.

Why not read what Ziegler said and tell me where he’s wrong..http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/thanks_to_conservative_issues_obama_now_holds_all_the_cards.html

instead of lazily dismissing it.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

The Secret Senator believes that Rick Santorum would lose 35 states in a general election

The Secret Senator is a moron.

steebo77 on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Mitch McConnell? He strikes me as just courageous enough to leave his name off a threat like this.

Right Mover on February 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Anyone consider one of the Maine Hags???

BigWyo on February 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM

NOT JEB BUSH He’s just like is Dad, a “compasionate conservative” (i.e. spend more money) and he’s soft on illegal immigration.

We don’t need another Bush; we only had two Adamses and they were orders of magnitude smarter then the Bushes.

clippermiami on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Ed snarks:
Silly me; I thought that when one candidate in a primary race lost a state, it meant that another candidate was stronger.
Why is this snark? The RINO’s want Romney because they think only a mushy moderate can win even though history proves the exact opposite. They don’t care who the people want.

They fear Santorum because he has an actual chance of wresting the nomination from their chosen RINO and Rick isn’t going to go along to get along.

BTW, the other day I heard DeMint talk very highly of Santorum. He threw just a tidbit of compliments to Newt and Mitt. His endorsement could be a game changer.

fight like a girl on February 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM

That’s a Rush line. It’s also untrue. George W. Bush won twice and his father also won. They are “mushy” RINO types by all current definitions. Plus, who was the “True Conservative” the GOP should have run in 1996?

Stop regurgitating Rush’s idiotic talking points.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

These establishment people are hopelessly clueless. The fact that they found Romney acceptable in the first place is evidence of that.

Galadriel on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Why? People pretty much regurgitate Levin or Rush’s opinions in here as some kind of authorities and they’re not only wrong most of the time, they’ve led the effort to dampen enthusiasm in Romney.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

No, Ms. Bland, that would be Romney who has led that effort.

steebo77 on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I pray that the GOPukes try this, because we need to smack them down first so we’re free to smack Obozo and the Demwits. Unless we defeat the Rovians and RINOs first, we’ll have no party carrying any conservative banner, and it will be the final nail for the Grand Ol Patsies. Santorum ain’t perfect, but he at least isn’t afraid to bear the conservative chalic through a throng of foes, whereas Romney has to calculate every syllable in his poindexter consultant computer before he finally sputters out a non-threatening, diversity-ready, conservative/progressive, leftwing media-approved statement.

Western_Civ on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Senator Magic Mushrooms is hallucinating.
Jeb ‘No Drilling For Oil Off Florida!’ Bush is the epítomé of a RINO.
No Thanks.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM

NOT JEB BUSH He’s just like is Dad, a “compasionate conservative” (i.e. spend more money) and he’s soft on illegal immigration.

We don’t need another Bush; we only had two Adamses and they were orders of magnitude smarter then the Bushes.

clippermiami on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

As I predicted Ed, they will call all other alternatives, including Bush…RINOS.

Nobody lives up to Rush and Mark’s standards, even they don’t, they backed Romney last time.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Why not read what Ziegler said and tell me where he’s wrong..http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/thanks_to_conservative_issues_obama_now_holds_all_the_cards.html

instead of lazily dismissing it.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

I’ve read what Ziegler has had to say and I’m not “lazily dismissing it”. Ziegler is a creep who’s struggling for relevance. If he were pushed in front of a moving bus, the stain on the pavement would be more impactful than any of the words he manages to string together.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

“Secret Senator Squirrel”

darwin on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Hey, here is an idea if Romney loses Michigan…he is still okay as there will be the win in AZ, followed by Super Tuesday and dozens of other States yet to vote!

This nameless Senator is ridiculous. This is like saying well, we’re down by a touchdown at halftime at home, we better put the second string QB in…No! You play the game with the guy that got you there. Romney will be fine and I am getting sick of these calls for brokered conventions and other candidates. If they weren’t man or woman enough to get in from the beginining and “earn their stripes” then they have NO RIGHT to swoop in as some savior of the party!

One other thought to remember about MI is that the DailyKos has already told people to Vote Santorum in MI as it is an open primary and they WANT Romney to lose so our party is thrown into chaos. I would think that OUR side would be a little smarter than this but we are falling for the Dems playbook.

g2825m on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Why? People pretty much regurgitate Levin or Rush’s opinions in here as some kind of authorities and they’re not only wrong most of the time, they’ve led the effort to dampen enthusiasm in Romney. Rush is the one who elevated Trump and Cain who helped make this cycle a joke.

AYNBLAND on February 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

If Romney’s so damn weak that a radio talk-show host can bring him down, what do you think the media will do to him against Obama? You’re just (like Ziegler) casting about for scapegoats to avoid admitting that Romney’s a WEAK CANDIDATE. If Romney starts to plummet, it’s not his fault — it’s the fault of conservatives. However, the “negatives” associated with Palin and Gingrich are all their own doing. Sounds like the excuse the ‘bots at Powerline are getting ready to use.

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM

install Sarah Palin at the top of the ticket without having subjected herself to the vetting and the tough work of earning the votes in the field . . .

that’s a pun, as if Palin’s vetting ever quit since joining McCain’s ’08 ticket by accepting the Party invitation.

The move to install Bush would be by the machine. The move to install Palin would be by the people.

Correct, were Palin so drafted. However, that’s not any more likely to happen now than when Palin declined to run for POTUS ’12. She chose to not run. Whatever credibility she yet has relies on her keeping her word. Whom Palin will “gladly help” is the only Palin question at the moment.

Jeb Bush promised to usurp the Tea Party movement.

When Palin again joins another corrupt SOB on another sorry-assed GOP Potus Ticket, her tea party movement credentials are bankrupted, topped with a plea for public bail-out.

maverick muse on February 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM

It would have to be somebody else, the senator said. Who? “Jeb Bush,” the former Florida governor.

In other words the Republican party is dead, it’s time for a 3rd party.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

These azzhole pragmatists aren’t pragmatists at all. They’re really just corrupt bullies. They will never let anyone but the sc-mbag party establishment pick the republican nominee, because in very real terms they have no use for conservatives – true conservatives – limited government, constitutional conservatives.

noeastern on February 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

not to start trouble again, but tell me why i should get my @$$ off the couch this november and vote for this party?

GhoulAid on February 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

In other words, Establishment Republicans are very nervous.

reddevil on February 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM

It’s Sarah’s turn. Nominate Sarah Palin.

*waits for exploding heads*

WhatNot on February 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM

I thought Romney was “Mr. Inevitable”?

kingsjester on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM

He is.

rich801 on February 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

If this Republican Senator actually existed and wasn’t a fantasy of the ABC reporter, then it would mean that the Republican Senator trusts ABC more than Republicans. I don’t think you’d see Fox pushing a narrative through an anonymous Republican, but if you did it would be someone like Shep Smith. Then you’d have to wonder “gee, why would this Republican senator call up Shep Smith of all people to advance an anonymous narrative?”

You could put an end to their tactic by banning any media outlet that creates anonymous Republican narratives from participating in any debates involving Republicans. It’s the ultimate discreditation of a media group to use this tactic and it discredits a political brand when they reward the media group that uses the tactic.

Buddahpundit on February 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

In other words the Republican party is dead, it’s time for a 3rd party.

FloatingRock on February 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM

They only die if a true conservative wins the general. As long as Dole, McCain, Romney wins the primary (and wins or loses the general – it really doesn’t matter) the republican party will be fine.

noeastern on February 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

I’ve read what Ziegler has had to say and I’m not “lazily dismissing it”. Ziegler is a creep who’s struggling for relevance. If he were pushed in front of a moving bus, the stain on the pavement would be more impactful than any of the words he manages to string together.

NoNails on February 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Yeah, Ziegler. “Everybody hates Palin and nobody listens to her. BUT SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE HER SHUT UP!!!!!” Typical ‘bot logic.

ddrintn on February 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

The field of GOP candidates is fine. You have Gingrich, Santorum and Paul to choose from, and you also had Perry, Bachmann, Huntsman, Cain, Pawlenty, and Johnson just a little while ago. In fact, you still have Buddy Roemer to choose from.

Are you really pining for a field like the 2008 field that had John McCain, Fred Thompson, Tom Tancredo, Rudy Giuliani, Alan Keyes and Duncan Hunter? Or how about 1996, with Bob Dole, Phil Gramm, Lamar Alexander, Pat Buchanan, Steve Forbes, Bob Dornan, Alan Keyes and Richard Lugar? (Phew!)

The lesson here is that Willard has entirely disrupted the Republican primary process by pretending to be a conservative, and by flaunting his money.

Jeb Bush would be a good choice at the convention, if it came to it. And where is Huckabee?

They have a better bunch of candidates at FOX News than on the primary ballots.

Emperor Norton on February 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

How about this for an idea: let’s hold a primary among those candidates who had the courage to put themselves on the line for almost a year, and stop worrying about those who sat on the sidelines. Stop looking for a Deus ex machina and start building the organization that will help whomever the voters choose as the nominee win the general election.

A-frickin-MEN Ed!

That goes for Bush, Palin or zombie-Reagan brought back to life. We’re going to have to win with what we have.

jnelchef on February 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Santorum ain’t perfect, but he at least isn’t afraid to bear the conservative chalic through a throng of foes

Western_Civ on February 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I don’t want another Prez with no executive experience. And his personal presentation is just not comfortable. The Sat Nite Live parody of him is actually not bad — tense and nervous and excitable. Yes, SNL always portrays conservatives as stupid bumblers, and I hate them for that.

What’s the case that Santorum can lead anything? Has he ever led anything? Any kind of executive experience? He’s as bad as Obama on that score.

I like the Obama-Romney matchup.

Paul-Cincy on February 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Emperor Norton on February 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Seriously? I mean, I get it you don’t like her. But not being “vetted”. That woman has been vetted over and over again and they still can’t find anything wrong with her other than her name. Did Jeb release all of his emails from his time in office? Hell for that matter did Romney?. Oops nope, Romney had the computers wiped cleaned so there’s that. Palin’s been vetted more than any candidate that I remember in the last over 35 years that I’ve been voting. And that includes candidates from the democrats side as well.

noneoftheabove on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I have to add- this is breathtaking arrogance on the part of the establishment too. They really think only THEIR guys can win. Pbssst!

Just like their guys won in ’92, ’96 and ’08.

In fact, I think the establishment track record in the last 30 would be one candidate: GWB. They were just smart enough, or lucky enough, to get behind someone the base could at least tolerate. And then they had favorable circumstances that helped him along too, like the Clinton scandal fatigue.

So don’t give me that these guys are the smartest in the room when it comes to picking an electable candidate. Sheesh.

Galadriel on February 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

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