Just what you want to hear: Planned Parenthood works around the clock to hook your kids on sex

posted at 9:35 pm on February 16, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Recently, American Life League came out with a six-minute exposé of Planned Parenthood that was so appalling that I would have had a hard time believing it was true had it not been about Planned Parenthood. The video included clips and images from PP educational materials — cartoons and the like — and the gist of the clips was that teens should learn to pleasure themselves and each other as soon as possible.

At the time, I was so disgusted that I couldn’t bring myself to post it. Now, I wish I had. Because of a copyright claim, YouTube pulled the video. No worries, though: You can read more about its contents here. As the smallest of samplings, here’s a screenshot:

The cartoon in the corner speaks for itself.

The point of the ALL’s video was simple: Planned Parenthood has a vested interest in hooking the next generation on sex. They’re in the abortion business. They depend upon unwanted pregnancies to stay in business. They know no unwanted pregnancy occurs without sex, so they encourage sex — albeit “safe” sex.

Over at BuzzFeed, BigRedH mocks the American Life League for its concern, writing, “Yes, this is both real and terrible. How dare Planned Parenthood try to educate people?” But pamphlets, coloring books, mascots, banners, outrageously-shaped lollipops … These aren’t the hallmarks of education. They’re the hallmarks of marketing. Fortunately for Planned Parenthood, the product they’re marketing is the easiest in the world to sell — and, when teens buy it and then have need of other products (a.k.a. contraceptives, STD testing, abortions), Planned Parenthood cashes in.

It sounds extreme, but, in the end, isn’t that the foundational idea of Planned Parenthood — that customers should be able to have sex without consequences, unless those “consequences” are “planned”?

If it all still sounds like a stretch to you, consider Planned Parenthood’s latest effort to meet teens where they are:

Whether they are texting high school students, lecturing in public schools, or coaxing students to their cringeworthy “Teen Information” website, Planned Parenthood relentlessly tries to appeal to the nation’s youth. Their most recent attempt is the newly-launched “HeyPP!” Twitter account. The page is meant to reach teenagers with sexual health information[.]

Sexual health information like, oh, how to have a conversation with your boyfriend about using a condom, how to know when the time is “right” to have sex or how to know if you’re a “cheater” (hint: it depends on your particular relationship’s rules).

The good news is, teens are unimpressed:

Planned Parenthood’s reputation is fading in popularity as quickly as their choice of words. (Another HeyPP tweet reads, “Sounds like a solid plan!” I’m still watching for the word “groovy.”) Planned Parenthood has been exposed for lyingfailing to report statutory rape, and not only concealing, but aiding in the sex trafficking of minors.

But it isn’t only Planned Parenthood that has a dwindling reputation among teens. Abortion as a whole is becoming increasingly unpopular with our nation’s youth. Unlike generations before, today’s teens are a part of what can be called the “refrigerator generation.” Unborn children are not an abstract “blob of tissue” to us, as we have grown up seeing ultrasound images of our unborn brothers, sisters, and cousins on our refrigerator doors. Combine this with an increase in pro-life activism, and it makes sense that more of our generation reports to be pro-life than pro-choice.

Abortion and Planned Parenthood are losing popularity among youth, and no excessive use of the words “like” and “totally” is going to change that.

It’s irritating — and a little insulting to the intelligence — that the “experts” at Planned Parenthood really think teens need help figuring out how to follow their natural urges.

But what angers me most about Planned Parenthood’s perpetual attempts to perpetuate knowledge about every last perversion that plagues the human race is that it robs marriage and sex of mystery and romance. If everybody’s business is everybody’s business, then nothing is private. How ironic that the “right to privacy” has made public in a huge way what was once between just two people.

Incidentally, what evidence we have still suggests it’s better when people keep it to themselves. Let’s please bring back the conversational taboo; surely sex was more exciting that way.

Update: A kind Twitter follower supplied me with a link to a still-working version of the video. “Enjoy” isn’t exactly the right word, so … be appalled:


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Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Your wife sounds like a keeper.

And I do know what you mean about a different capacity for knowledge. I used to be agnostic myself, but I just got tired of giving God a checklist of stuff to do before I’d take Him at His word. I still have most of the same doubts, especially with respect to the problem of evil.

But if God was big enough to accept the doubts and angry suspicion of people like Job and Jeremiah and Thomas, I figure He’s ok with me getting up in His grill a little bit too. Most of all, it’s just a relief to know that we don’t have to earn each other’s love. He loves me, I love Him, and nothing can touch that.

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:04 AM

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:02 AM

How about Japan vs. Liberia?

Liberia is 85% christian. It’s also the cannibal, rape, and murder capital of the world!

Japan should be obvious.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Science is a non-belief in Christianity.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:02 AM

The sad thing, many who cling to a notion of “Science” actually do think this is part of its job description. As if, to be a “true scientist” means you must also become an apostle for a materialistic view.

Sharr on February 17, 2012 at 1:05 AM

You always feel a little guilty when you disagree with Science, even when you know you are right.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Religious: Here’s what we know for sure so far, because what we know about our world is a bizarre and complicated mess of science and mathematics and art and philosophy and humanity as we struggle to understand not only our physical selves, but our mental and spiritual selves as well.

Atheists: Here’s what we know for sure so far, science science science science science science science.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Re-fixed.

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM

you might want to check back a few pages buddy.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Science is about never having to say I didn’t have a clue what I was talking about in the past while telling people to believe you now.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Here we go, the “atheists are incapable of being good people” argument.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 12:52 AM

I know that when someone refer to others as delusional because of their beliefs, the first thing that comes to mind is “You know, he’s a good guy.”

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Science flip flops more than Mitt Romney and John Kerry combined.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Okay, so just so we’re clear, you guys are openly hostile to modern science.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Modern science? How does that differ from science exactly? If you mean just inventing crap, slapping an institutional label on it and calling it the new dogma… then yes.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Well said, sharrukin!

I have two scientific degrees from well-known and well-respected university, and I’m hostile to “modern science” which does not follow the scientific model at all but rather focuses on politically-motivated group-think and ostricizes anyone who doesn’t submit to the “consensus”.

Science is not about “consensus”.

Not very long ago, Eugenics was the “consensus”…

ITguy on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Do you consider the U.S.A. to be a free society?

In comparison to all the others, yes.

Do you consider the former U.S.S.R. to be a free society?

Of course not.

You won’t find the words “separation”, “church”, or “state” in the 1st Amendment to our United States Constitution.

But you will find them in Article 124 of the 1936 Constitution of the U.S.S.R. (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics):

…the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state…

ITguy on February 17, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You won’t find the words “television,” “art,” or “opinion,” either, but that doesn’t mean the first amendment doesn’t carry implications on all those concepts. As for the Soviet “constitution” I think it’s worth considering that the communists who wrote it were abject liars.

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Science has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

And religion is what, blinding yourself from new discovery.. just because your ego can’t take being wrong since you were a kid.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

You always feel a little guilty when you disagree with Science, even when you know you are right.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Just so you know. These aren’t being ignored. I’m laughing my head off over here. Keep up the good work.

Pattosensei on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

How about Japan vs. Liberia?

Liberia is 85% christian. It’s also the cannibal, rape, and murder capital of the world!

Japan should be obvious.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:05 AM

How about it?

Seems culture has more to do with their respective problems than what you are claiming.

BTW, where does your belief that murder is bad come from?

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Correction, Science does have one core conviction…it’s right and you are an idiot.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Science has no core convictions.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

As they say, that’s a feature, not a bug.

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:09 AM

How about it?

Seems culture has more to do with their respective problems than what you are claiming.

BTW, where does your belief that murder is bad come from?

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Yes, culture probably does. Which is why your comparison of the USSR and the USA is deeply flawed. (That’s the point.)

My belief that murder is flawed comes from wil wheaton, and his rule to live by: Don’t be a dick.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Science is the guy flipping people off who are skepitical.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Maybe I’ll change one day, the wife keeps working on me but to be honest I dislike going to church; I’m lazy that way.

But hey, when I was 16 I read the entire Bible by agreeing to read 10 full chapters every night no matter how long or short they were. Sometimes I got away easy, but when those interminable “Who begat this guy who begat that guy who begat the next guy” parts came along……man, it was a drag.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Science is the husband who beats his wife and tells her he only does it b/c he loves her.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I have two scientific degrees from well-known and well-respected university, and I’m hostile to “modern science” which does not follow the scientific model at all but rather focuses on politically-motivated group-think and ostricizes anyone who doesn’t submit to the “consensus”.

ITguy on February 17, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Science is in trouble for the same reasons as it ran into trouble in the old Soviet Union. Political groveling to the elites in power who do not want certain things said in public.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

oh, so sorry blink, is my speech forcing you to listen to new opinions and consider new things? I’m so sorry.

If you’d like, I can wait a couple minutes while you dig a hole to put your head in.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

And religion is what, blinding yourself from new discovery.. just because your ego can’t take being wrong since you were a kid.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

I wonder if you realize just how deeply your conviction blinds you to understanding persons who are very much like you in so many ways, and every bit as rational and reasonable.

Seriously, the small percentage of pure atheists in this world are the lone standardbearers of intellect, while everyone else are hapless victims of their own petulant neroses? And we’re not even at the part yet where you linked Christendom with cannibalism.

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Methinks we might best distinguish between real ‘science’ and
PURCHASED scientific outcomes/’settled scientific understandings’, aka: BIG SCIENCE.
Not at all the same things.
Not to me, anyway.

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Science is the mystery that makes perfect sense to Science.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

And religion is what, blinding yourself from new discovery.. just because your ego can’t take being wrong since you were a kid.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:08 AM

This coming from the guy who claims to refuse to believe in anything that can’t fit under a microscope.

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I don’t know if I’m good with this whole amicable discussion thing, one of us should be tearing the other’s head off.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

My belief that murder is flawed comes from wil wheaton, and his rule to live by: Don’t be a dick.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Sounds like a lot of that sciency stuff right there.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

And we’re not even at the part yet where you linked Christendom with cannibalism.

Don’t forget Atheism = Communism, and Atheism = Murderers.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Science is the father who tells his kids “as long as you live under my roof, this is the way things are” even though the father is a crackhead.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Science is what liberals do when they aren’t doing Sodomy.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Seriously, the small percentage of pure atheists in this world are the lone standardbearers of intellect, while everyone else are hapless victims of their own petulant neroses?

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Who doesn’t like to be the hero in their own morality play? Its like a comic book come to life and you are the atheist lightbringer spreading the harsh truth to a desperate world in need. A nice little ego booster.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Quick question,

Iran or Norway?

Saudi Arabia or Sweeden?

Palestine or Canada?

triple on February 17, 2012 at 12:58 AM

You pose three false dilemmas… three questions that are all choices between an Islamic country (except for Palestine, which is not a country) and a socialist country.

I choose: NONE OF THE ABOVE.

I choose: the United States of America. One nation, under God.

If we pass beyond these matters to a view of American life, as expressed by its laws, its business, its customs, and its society, we find everywhere a clear recognition of the same truth. Among other matters note the following: The form of oath universally prevailing, concluding with an appeal to the Almighty; the custom of opening sessions of all deliberative bodies and most conventions with prayer; the prefatory words of all wills, “In the name of God, amen;” the laws respecting the observance of the Sabbath, with the general cessation of all secular business, and the closing of courts, legislatures, and other similar public assemblies on that day; the churches and church organizations which abound in every city, town, and hamlet; the multitude of charitable organizations existing everywhere under Christian auspices; the gigantic missionary associations, with general support, and aiming to establish Christian missions in every quarter of the globe. These and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation.

THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. U.S.
143 U.S. 457, 12 S.Ct. 511, 36 L.Ed. 226
Feb. 29, 1892

ITguy on February 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM

I’m a bit angry that the Theory of Evolution is still a theory. All these decades gone by and the poor thing is still stuck as a downtrodden theory, where are all the scientists to prove it’s so much more? I think someone should pass a law to make it a law.

Wait…is that even legal?

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM

I don’t know if I’m good with this whole amicable discussion thing, one of us should be tearing the other’s head off.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

If you’d just stop being such a blinkered godbot we could have an amicable discussion! How’s that? :)

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Science is the belief that Obama and others have that money grows on trees.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Don’t forget Atheism = Communism, and Atheism = Murderers.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Now here is where we part ways, because I am talking to you about things that you said directly, whereas you are talking to me about some meme you cling to that has probably been reinforced by some guy or guys that you have talked to.

You can’t make this argument based on anything I’ve said to you. Care to take a moment and think about why that is?

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Don’t forget Atheism = Communism

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Cause communism has nothing to do with atheism says the man with a giant cranium.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Politicians only care about Science when they think Science can be exploited to raise taxes and control people.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:20 AM

When Bill Maher sneers at Christians, he is giving Testimony to Science.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Okay, whatever. Lets just get this on the record – is the curvature of spacetime responsible for the effects of gravity yes or no.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Well, that’s what Einstein said, but he’s wrong. It’s gravitons warping spacetime which are responsible for the effects of gravity.

The gravitons are detectable (as waveforms only) using dualed monopoles with a separation of no more than 15mu. A cross-current of several milliamps is produced whenever a graviton passes through the detector. This means that you can use this apparatus to power an led, and it makes a nifty flashlight.

Another way in which gravitons may be detected is to carefully watch Nancy Pelosi’s wrinkles (which are a form of fractal antenna) as she talks. By focussing a meson laser on one and minitoring the backscattered high frequency radiation, you can notice movements in the wrinkle having nothing to do with the topic she’s discussing.

In fact, if you get enough gravitons gathered in one place (say, a superdense black hole, you can actually get the fabric of spacetime to fold in on itself. The cool part about that is that the resulting apparatus can be used as a telephone to talk over vast distances using only two cups and some string theory.

Of course, these effects are mitigated if you convert the gravitons into gravitonnes — thus allowing the French to become involved.

unclesmrgol on February 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM

I’m a bit angry that the Theory of Evolution is still a theory. All these decades gone by and the poor thing is still stuck as a downtrodden theory, where are all the scientists to prove it’s so much more? I think someone should pass a law to make it a law.

Wait…is that even legal?

Oh, here we go. Someone who has no idea what the difference between theory and law is.

Newton’s law was in fact superseded by the theory of relativity.

Other theories: Atomic theory, germ theory

Pretty sure nukes still go off and I still get sick. Even though they are “just theories”.

Creationism, on the other hand, is neither. It’s a hypothesis.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Very good, and let me just say that when the Zombie Apocalypse finally happens you will not find shelter in my bunker; I will drive you away while laughing.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Maybe I’ll change one day, the wife keeps working on me but to be honest I dislike going to church; I’m lazy that way.

But hey, when I was 16 I read the entire Bible by agreeing to read 10 full chapters every night no matter how long or short they were. Sometimes I got away easy, but when those interminable “Who begat this guy who begat that guy who begat the next guy” parts came along……man, it was a drag.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Good Lord. I get migraines just thinking about Numbers.

Hey, I’m not trying to beat you over the head here, but sometime you should check out a book called Wild At Heart. It’s not a “how to be a Christian in 10 easy steps” kind of a book. More of a “what it means to be a man” kind of a book. In an odd way, reading that book and just feeling how much it resonated with me really helped convince me that God was really there.

Take it or leave it though….

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Evolution is a theory too, but no proof required because it is Science.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:24 AM

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM
And, evolution has graduated to a real theory, has it ?

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Evolution is the theory that man spontaneously originated as the result of random mutations working together in harmony to create useful genetic traits.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:25 AM

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM

I would say that you have an awful sense of humor, but I know that you would brush it off as your body simply lacking the proper amount of whatever chemical causes the human animal to make laughing sounds.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:26 AM

nothing spontaneous about it. genetic traits were passed on because some were just plain superior to others. This is why we’re all immune to certain ancient diseases, for one.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:26 AM

nothing spontaneous about it. genetic traits were passed on because some were just plain superior to others. This is why we’re all immune to certain ancient diseases, for one.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:26 AM

You are conflating natural selection with evolution theory, which is common among people who know Science best. :)

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:28 AM

For (recent) starters,

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100923104140.htm

triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:28 AM

thus allowing the French to become involved.

unclesmrgol on February 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Let’s not get carried away here.

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:28 AM

It’s testing.. and testing.. and drawing a conclusion.. and testing those conclusions until they don’t hold up anymore.. then you repeat the process. This is the ONLY way to find out the true nature of our universe – I don’t see any radio telescopes in church

Bull. Is the earth flat or round? Is the earth the center of the universe? So in other words if scientists conclude that they can find no alternative to a problem, then they will “conclude” that the most likely answer is the truth. I’ll remember that, there are no scientific facts, only the most likely conclusions.
Not saying that I espouse creationism, but Darwin was an idiot. Most people who comment on evolution have never even read his book. It is filled with supposition and half truths. Most “scientists” start out with what they perceive as the truth, and find “facts” to corroborate it.
Stupid Christians. How dare they be so foolish as to believe that God created life. Science has proven beyond a doubt that somehow a collection of chemicals came together, formed single celled organisms in a pile of goo, and then mysteriously evolved in to in to the complex creatures that we are today. That’s the true miracle.
As to those of you who blame religion for all the worlds problems, I have a question for you. Do you actually read the news? I read about the crimes committed in this country and I rarely see anyone who claims that they are committing these crimes in the name of Christianity. Just because someone says their a Christian doesn’t make it so. It’s funny that if I see a minority commuting a crime, and attribute that to all minorities, I am a racist. Liberals, atheist, and the media (actually all one in the same) seem not to be held to the same standard.

bandutski on February 17, 2012 at 1:29 AM

cigarette companies aren’t allowed to advertise, sugary cereals are about to banned from using cartoons in their commercials- but the Abortion Biz can do as they please, apparently.

Book on February 17, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Evolution tells us that creatures who had no vision were fortunate enough to have various genetic mutations that occured in such a way to lead to the creation of eyeballs which they really could use.

It’s always good when random genetic mutations hook you up with things like eyeballs.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Can’t stand today’s churches, either, my friend.
But, God’s still real, still here, VERY BUSY, and even loves triple !!
:-)

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Which explains why diseases brought to South and Central America by the Spanish didn’t affect the native peoples one bit. Nope, not one bit.

I dare you to bathe yourself in smallpox tainted water because you are certainly immune to a disease that was found in the mummy of Pharaoh Rameses V, a guy who lived in the 12th century BC. You know, ancient.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Guess What? Since I will be paying for everyones healthcare and condoms, I “get a say” in other peoples business soon.

YES, thats right! All you fatso’s in America, get ready, I will make sure you eat what I think is in your BEST interest. So dont be pissed when I overtly tell you to drop the burger and eat a salad instead.

Since I will be paying for the condoms, I might envoke the right of jus primae noctis, a noble’s right to partake in sex with a new bride. Or I might give my opinion over whether or not you should have children.

So many options, I just dont know yet…..

mr_west on February 17, 2012 at 1:32 AM

cigarette companies aren’t allowed to advertise, sugary cereals are about to banned from using cartoons in their commercials- but the Abortion Biz can do as they please, apparently.

Book on February 17, 2012 at 1:29 AM

If the cigarette companies were smart, they’d start marketing their product as an extremely slow abortifacient. I’m still working on a strategy for the cereal manufacturers.

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Signing off… Good night, all.

ITguy on February 17, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Evolution tells us that creatures who had no vision were fortunate enough to have various genetic mutations that occured in such a way to lead to the creation of eyeballs which they really could use.

It’s always good when random genetic mutations hook you up with things like eyeballs.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:31 AM

And how in the world did practically every higher order species manage to simultaneously evolve anatomically/sexually compatible males and females?

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:34 AM

What baffles me about athiests who were raised with some sort of religion is why, with eschewing every notion of a God, do so many not credit religion at all with who they have become.

I learned to love poetry reading Psalms
I joined the Army in part because I admired the nuns’ sense of duty & service
I raised our children with volunteerism & charity as spiritual food because the church (and my parents) brought me up that way

Many more reasons why, even though Christian faith went bye-bye, I am grateful for the parting gifts.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

I’m still awaiting the discovery of semi-birds, as they evolved into flying entities, from something else, prior.

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Very good, and let me just say that when the Zombie Apocalypse finally happens you will not find shelter in my bunker; I will drive you away while laughing.

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:23 AM

pfft. Zombies. Anyone who’s seen Shaun of the Dead knows we’ll end up mostly fine.

I’m coming to realize I’m more squishy than Allahpundit in a room full of cats, though, so I’m sure we’ll have plenty of opportunities to tear each others’ heads off about politics, and I’m looking forward to it.

Good night to all.

RightOFLeft on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Socialists want to get us arguing over on what the tax revenue is spent, rather than arguing against socialism and big government.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Well it’s been fun but by my clock it’s 1234 and so time for bed.

I would say “goodnight” but as that is just a response dictated by electrical charges being released in a soup of chemicals vented by my spleen and gall bladder, instead I’ll just stop typi

Bishop on February 17, 2012 at 1:37 AM

And how in the world did practically every higher order species manage to simultaneously evolve anatomically/sexually compatible males and females?

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:34 AM

That’s the best question for the Darwinists and they don’t have answer for it, because reproduction has nothing to do with an individual creatures own survival.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Ok guys, didn’t realize it was so late, good night.

Dr. Tesla on February 17, 2012 at 1:38 AM

What baffles me about athiests who were raised with some sort of religion is why, with eschewing every notion of a God, do so many not credit religion at all with who they have become.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

I was never a Christian but I give them credit for the good things they have done, and I trust the Christian systems a lot more than atheist ones from the evidence of history. A sense of self preservation should inform anyone what works and what does not.

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Because for a great many atheists, I have found it isn’t so much that they don’t believe in God. It’s that they’re angry at Him for having let them down in some way.

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:41 AM

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 1:39 AM

amen.
:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:41 AM

No religion.. gas prices would be a buck fifty. WTC would still be standing. We wouldn’t be wondering if Israel was going to attack Iran for having a nuclear weapon.

Yes, culture probably does. Which is why your comparison of the USSR and the USA is deeply flawed. (That’s the point.)

So on the one hand, everything would be great if there were no religion. On the other hand, comparing the USSR and USA is flawed because of the influence of culture. I see…

Some of the worst atrocities this world has seen has been committed at the hands of atheists following an atheist ideology, but gee, that had nothing to do with the atheist ideology known as communism. That’s just culture, see. The fact is you still had 10s if not 100s of millions of people massacred by the non-religious, not to mention the immense suffering that those who managed to survive experienced. Even if it has nothing to do with the atheist ideology, doesn’t the fact that this happened at the hands of the non-religious disprove the whole idea that a non-religious world would be more peaceful? Wouldn’t a more reasonable explanation be that there will always be men who lust for power and will latch onto some ideology, whether it be religious or anti-religious, to obtain it?

NukeRidingCowboy on February 17, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Nom de Boom on February 17, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Sad but probably true.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Creationism, on the other hand, is neither. It’s a hypothesis

Just like evolution. I can just see Darwin in his lab, angry at religion (which you would know if you read his biography) knowing that if he could disprove that God created life, he could undermine the whole bible.
“If God didn’t create us, then we MUST have evolved. But from what? A butterfly…no, a frog…no, a giraffe…no. I have it, a monkey. they sort of resemble us. Now all I have to due is find facts to support my hypothesis.” Or words to that effect.

bandutski on February 17, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Pssst … I’m not too good at this URL pasting thing, so, I suggest anyone interested in the evolution debate go to YouTube and search for ‘Expelled’. The entire film is online.
At least it gives y’all an idea of the battle that rages, and the atheists views are very interesting, to say the least.

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 1:52 AM

Abortion is the greatest threat that has ever befallen our great nation. I say that because it is a threat that comes from within. Do we hold human existence in such low regard that we callously toss it away? If there is any seed of doubt as to whether life begins at the time of conception, then why do we continue to annihilate it? 1 out of every 1,000,000 bottles contains a deadly poison. Is there anyone out there who would continue to drink bottled water? I doubt it. Science cannot prove when life begins. That being the case, WHY do we go on with this deadly game of convenience?
I hear it every day. What if I am the victim of rape? What about overpopulation? What about all the children that are neglected? What about all the children that are abused? What about all the children that are starving? Who are YOU to decide whether a child lives or dies based upon your standard of life? It appalls me that in a country that seems so concerned with life, oh I forgot, it’s my own life I’m concerned about. What inconveniences me is an abomination, and to hell with everyone else.
Wouldn’t the proper solution be to remedy these things that are harming our children? What if the whole world stood up and said ENOUGH! We will not tolerate anyone abusing our children. Everyone agrees that it is a horrible problem, but what do they do. Nothing. I’m sorry, I forgot, they abort them. I wouldn’t want to have to walk down the street and help one of these poor children. Too much trouble.
When a society sacrifices the most weak and innocent amongst them, what does that tell you? You would rather kill an innocent child than to risk that they may not grow up as you would have seen fit? To use that same rational, we must go and murder every child who has ever been abused or neglected. Will yours be the hands that pull the switch?
Of all the sick and twisted things that abound in our society, you choose to attack that which is the embodiment of innocence? We pay taxes to defend murders and rapist. We pay taxes to murder children. This is the reality.

bandutski on February 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Some of the worst atrocities this world has seen has been committed at the hands of atheists following an atheist ideology

Yeah, like those atheists that carried out 9/11.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 2:00 AM

Define world. I think the mass extinction events would qualify. Recently? As in within the past 200 something years? Yes.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Sorry, TK, but with posts like this, you’ve fallen right into their trap. And the ease with which you’ve done so is stunning. But you’re young.

And of course, you’re not entirely to blame. Our “thought leaders” (assuming we have any — and of that I’m truly doubtful, given the ludicrous raging “thigh” debate) completely miss the real issues. Contraception, for instance, was so beside the point.

The real issue in that controversy — how much can the government tell us what to do? — was completely ignored. Instead, Republicans gleefully leap-frogged over one another into the welcoming arms of Democrats, to show how willing we are to have a perfectly meaningless, endless, and stupid debate.

Before this contraception “debate” we were gathering steam — with discussions about a free economy, lower taxes, the looming debt crisis, and smaller government.

Now we’re reduced to debating the long-term detriments to society wrought by the advent of birth control? Birth control, you guys somberly inform us, is bad because it separates pleasure and procreation. Oh, dear God! Put out a PSA, right away!

And yet you have the gall to say the LEFT is patronizing. I am so inspired.

When the “food police” story happened and chicken nuggets were forced on a four-year-old, same thing. The question should never have been, “how nutritious was the mom’s packed lunch, stacked up against USDA requirements?” Who gives a rat’s? It should have been, “WTF are gov’t. b-crats doing inspecting a kid’s lunch?” “What the hell are these gov’t. b-crats doing, second-guessing a mother’s judgment about what she serves her kid for lunch?”

But you guys missed all of this by a mile. Self-proclaimed wits, our conservative smartie-pants, on the forefront of framing the issues accurately, and persuasively? Sorry, but you’ve failed abysmally. And in November we’ll see that these failures were CATACLYSMIC.

From my perch, it seems the die have been irrevocably cast: you’ve let Obama entirely frame this election. Indeed you’ve rushed to help him move the spotlight from the economy to sex in the bedroom. For shame, for shame, and shame on you.

Everyone, everywhere, now sees 2012 as a contest between the gay-loathing, pro-’ception, everyone-have-a-baby, right-wing nuts and the stay-out-of-my-womb, stay-out-of-my-room, we-love-the-poor, reasonable folk.

And so . . . and so, we’re utterly *ucked.

I’m a huge conservative (and I’m not a huge Romney fan). And yeah, I’ll vote for Romney or Santorum or whoever. But I won’t be excited, I won’t organize, I won’t fund-raise, I won’t do zip. I’ll probably be way too busy renewing my passport, figuring out a way to keep what little money I have and getting the hell out of dodge.

With your help — posting videos like this one — the social-issues wing of our party will burn down the house.

Lawyer Mom on February 17, 2012 at 2:09 AM

As in within the past 200 something years? Yes.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Estimates of the total number of deaths resulting from Khmer Rouge policies, including disease and starvation, range from 1.7 to 2.5 million out of a population of around 8 million.

Sociologist Daniel Chirot claims that around 100 million people suffered and at least one million people, and perhaps as many as 20 million, died in China.

Stalin; 20 million dead
Hitler; 11 million dead
Armenian massacres; 1 to 2 million dead

Osama; 3,000

sharrukin on February 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM

How did the discussion in this thread railroad into an evolution debate, exactly? Let’s stay on topic and talk about Planned Parenthood sex cartoons again. I’ll throw my hat in with this longish comment on “sex-positive”:

There are two roots to Planned Parenthood’s sex ed programs: its need to keep a profit in the abortion and STD Testing business, which ALL and Tina addressed in the video and post; and its philosophy of “sex-positive,” the view that all consensual sexual relationships, acts, and feelings must be encouraged because they are “healthy” and “natural”…unless they are structured around an “artificial” hierarchy (created by the male Christianist chauvinist pigs, of course).

To most sex-positives, there is something fundamentally wrong with any restriction on the drive to act like animals. And just as the abortion business has statist eugenicist origins, so does “sex-positive” have Marxist origins. Wilhelm Reich, one of Freud’s most notorious students, coined the term and concept as part of his effort to reconcile Marxism and psychoanalysis.

The “sex-positive” mold is growing in some of the darker corners of the Internet, and it is obvious that PP is already spreading it around to an even worse degree without giving it that name.

carcinoGeneticist on February 17, 2012 at 2:23 AM

My belief that murder is flawed comes from wil wheaton, and his rule to live by: Don’t be a dick.
triple on February 17, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Yet, you have broken this rule over and over again tonight.

jawkneemusic on February 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM

What baffles me about athiests who were raised with some sort of religion is why, with eschewing every notion of a God, do so many not credit religion at all with who they have become.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Because they want it both ways. They want to hate God and deny his existence at the same time.

jawkneemusic on February 17, 2012 at 2:43 AM

What baffles me about athiests who were raised with some sort of religion is why, with eschewing every notion of a God, do so many not credit religion at all with who they have become.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Methinks they don’t yet know that they CAN have/know God
WITHOUT belonging to a ‘religion’.
Blinding, it is.. To anything positive coming from their prior upbringing.
Took me years to see it, myself.
After all, the definition of religion is: return to bondage, control, suppression, etc.
If they only knew He’s on their side, and knocks, it’d make a huge difference.
Needn’t mean rejecting Him entirely, just all of man’s oppresive trappings.
HE’s down with that, too !! :-)

pambi on February 17, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Yeah, like those atheists that carried out 9/11.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 2:00 AM

So now regular, work-a-day Christians are not only indistinguishable from cannibals but also from murderous jihadists.

So in this little back-and-forth game of Whose Philosophy Committed the Worst Atrocities Without Regard for Confounding Factors Like Maybe Some Historical Figures are Singular Bastards… does anyone ever win these games? Cause from where I sit it just looks like everyone loses.

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 3:08 AM

Yeah, like those atheists that carried out 9/11.

triple on February 17, 2012 at 2:00 AM

So now regular, work-a-day Christians are not only indistinguishable from cannibals but also from murderous jihadists.

So in this little back-and-forth game of Whose Philosophy Committed the Worst Atrocities Without Regard for Confounding Factors Like Maybe Some Historical Figures are Singular Bastards… does anyone ever win these games? Cause from where I sit it just looks like everyone loses.

The Schaef on February 17, 2012 at 3:08 AM

Could we use the term totalitarian to cover those awful regimes rather than arguing about secular/ atheist vs religious? They all have thought crime or am I stretching the definition?

lexhamfox on February 17, 2012 at 5:38 AM

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